N'zoth's Corruption of Anduin Wrynn & Wrathion's Final Plot | CInematic Analysis

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Taliesin & Evitel

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@TheShaofThirst
@TheShaofThirst 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion: "N'Zoth will strike...here..." Anduin: "No touchy. Me angy."
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly 5 жыл бұрын
*_" Don't touch me... in public. "_* The Bromance is beginning again! XD
@kawaiivenus8177
@kawaiivenus8177 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion is going to touch the king in bed. Lol
@Warlady_
@Warlady_ 5 жыл бұрын
Anduin: don't touch me UwU
@bandmerch8067
@bandmerch8067 5 жыл бұрын
when you talked about the hand he just used to punch his friends face, he was looking at his left hand, he punched with his right hand, symbolism is there just the wrong hand XD
@bik3rwave169
@bik3rwave169 5 жыл бұрын
beat me to it!
@scottiericker2285
@scottiericker2285 5 жыл бұрын
Damn me too now that I looked
@kasken719
@kasken719 5 жыл бұрын
He ment hand as in handed. Not left or right. He realized he was out of character but had no idea.
@stevek6636
@stevek6636 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed it when I first saw it, somthings going to happen similar to sylvanas and the few off items here and there are somthing to keep an eye on.
@DemeitriHitokiri
@DemeitriHitokiri 5 жыл бұрын
Ikr beat me to it lol
@justin4018
@justin4018 5 жыл бұрын
The symbolism was that Anduin had his fist clenched AT ALL. It’s totally unlike him to let temper take over, dare I say the first time we’ve ever seen him lose his cool. The hand doesn’t matter, the fact he was ready to throw another punch is what does.
@Garouwerks
@Garouwerks 5 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that Anduin is weak emotionally at this time. Still grieving his fathers death, having to deal with Sylvanas, the emotional weight of loosing all those people to the war. And as such, this makes it much easier for N'Zoth to break into his thoughts and mind. He is a strong King, and a good one (that we have seen so far), but he has had little time to grieve and heal. Least that is my take on it.
@astathea
@astathea 5 жыл бұрын
@sunwalkeredaaga4154
@sunwalkeredaaga4154 5 жыл бұрын
I think that’s spot on. I think he is as strong as Varian, which is why we don’t see him in the vision of a corrupted Stormwind. He is just dealing with a lot: grief for his father, and knowing that he screwed up with Tyrande. But also something else: his memories of Bolvar have just been rekindled by meeting Taelia. And now here’s Wrathion, reminding him of Onyxia. He hasn’t ever faced and properly dealt with the memories of his childhood. That makes it easier than normal for N’zoth to get in. But all N’Zoth can do is show him a brief vision without words. Wrathion is easily able to snap him out of it just by calling his name. Let me remind you: a literal god is attempting to mind-rape him. Anduin, even in his fragile state, just shrugs the attack off.
@_whitnii_
@_whitnii_ 5 жыл бұрын
I also think part of it is him being a priest; we have shadow priests, so we know they're really vunerable to the void. We also know that the catfolk in Uldum are having issues with their own priests. One of them remarks when you first go there with Magni about how lately their priests have been wracked with increasingly intense nightmares as N'Zoth has been gearing up. Part of that may just be due to their proximity to the Halls of Origination, but Anduin being as sensitive as he is I can't help but think it may be part of it. (Or he could be being specifically targeted! He's sort of the poster child for calm and hope most of the time.)
@Kaotiqua
@Kaotiqua 5 жыл бұрын
OMG THANK YOU! That accusation about Varian's death was driving me nuts! Also... you didn't mention once that, while the lads were having their stroll along the balcony, a simple glance to the right would have added a grim relic of Wrathion's dad/grandad, hanging like a skinned corpse beside the lake. (Something I've always thought Stormwind could do without.)
@valkyriesardo278
@valkyriesardo278 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion sashayed into that throne room with a smirk that was begging for a punch in the face. Long live the king.
@charlayned
@charlayned 5 жыл бұрын
On the whole "hand" thing. Anduin is right handed, that's the hand he punches Wrathion with. Now, when he looks down at his hand, it's the left one. Remember, you went back to the whole open of BfA and the discovery of the azerite, well, he was holding that in his right hand. Given that in old mythology/heraldry, right is a light (remember he reached into the sky to pull the light at Lorderon?), and left is "sinister", which in our vocabulary (outside of heraldry) means something that is harmful or evil is happening. So, now we have that side of the situation--Anduin isn't going to be able to hold onto the light (as you said), but has to learn to use "the other hand" and how that will play into this. Yeah, that's what I saw, anyway. LOVE the discussion, well done (and omg, that ship with Flynn and Shaw and then the whole Anduin and Wrathion ship, I'll sail on that one all the day long!). Love your analysis.
@charlayned
@charlayned 5 жыл бұрын
And, my whole reaction to the cinematic when I first saw it was What The (Frack???) Nothing about Anduin was right in there...
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else worry that the Temple to the Light in the center of Stormwind is secretly N’Zoth’s into the city? Wasn’t the previous Light Pope the Twilight Father in Cataclysm?
@amouramarie
@amouramarie 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn't even expecting a deep dive on this! And it's twenty minutes long! I love how you put fanart in your videos. That one of whelpling Wrathion curled around Pandaria Anduin's head is so fking cute I may have to crush a can on my forehead to recover my balance.
@andreyarrais6550
@andreyarrais6550 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding how easily Anduin seems to be affected by N'zoth's influence, that was actually mentioned later on the main quest campgain, that the priests within Uldum are affected by nightmares, and how the game has been pointing out that light and void are two different sides of the same coin, it probably means N'zoth can affect priests far easier than other people. That is my theory at least
@Domdrok
@Domdrok 5 жыл бұрын
Lore videos like this are why I still follow/play Warcraft. Thanks for the deep dive. And the father/grandfather thing threw me/was hilarious.
@Fallonmoon
@Fallonmoon 5 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for clearing up the "you killed my father" i too, was so confused!
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 жыл бұрын
I wasn’t
@Fallonmoon
@Fallonmoon 5 жыл бұрын
@@fumarc4501 good 4 u mate xD
@Gameonbrad
@Gameonbrad 5 жыл бұрын
When Andiun punched Wrathion, the first thing that came to mind was that that was out of character for Anduin. Then, they showed the corruption afflicting him and I was like "There it is!" :)
@TheYocote
@TheYocote 5 жыл бұрын
"...but here is 12 year old me to tell you all about it in an older video". Jeez, I didn't know WOW has been around for 45 years already...
@Mtbambeno
@Mtbambeno 5 жыл бұрын
Time passes differently in the Shadowlands..........
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 жыл бұрын
Wow is beyond time.
@vassindi
@vassindi 4 жыл бұрын
First off love your videos! I've been watching a lot of them since I came back to WoW last month after skipping out halfway though Legion. I really enjoy your in depth view on them. I've watched this cinematic so many times now myself and I noticed that when Wrathion finishes the line about 'no desire to share that fate.' he glances out into the garden where Deathwing's scale(I think?) is on display. I thought that was a great blink and you miss it moment, showing that he really does not want to become his father/grandfather.
@hamsterhamster6492
@hamsterhamster6492 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion: I suppose I deserved that Anduin: oh you deserve alot more than that Wrathion: daddy
@happyclam1266
@happyclam1266 5 жыл бұрын
Can we please see Anduiin and Wrathion in Dream Daddy?
@Carlito_Brigante
@Carlito_Brigante 5 жыл бұрын
Stop
@freerunlou6572
@freerunlou6572 5 жыл бұрын
Man you break down things to a point i love it your review was fresh from the rest great work taliesin & Evitel
@kinocrone7275
@kinocrone7275 4 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing wow a while ago so Wrathion wasn't on my radar. I got into it recently and so I looked for the cinematics to sort of catch up. I saw this one and, I kid you not, I had to pause it after the punch to see if this was a ship, because I could immediately see the tension.
@Mescat33
@Mescat33 5 жыл бұрын
These videos always make me appreciate the cinematics so much more than I already do.
@CroneLife1
@CroneLife1 5 жыл бұрын
"Wranduin ships". Goddamn, I love the way you have with turning a phrase. I'm dead - done like dinner. That was beauty. :D
@princewrathion874
@princewrathion874 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughtful and thorough analysis of my favorite character, whose return (and reunion with Anduin) I've been awaiting for years. You made me notice so many things I overlooked on the first few viewings, and, god, it's just so good. Also...thank you for being so fair to the ship and all its complexities. As an LGBT wow fan, whenever something like this comes out there's a lot of toxic talk going around that's really hard to look at. But you were kind and fair, so thank you. Another great reminder why I love your channel so much. 💜
@R.Jay.Creations
@R.Jay.Creations 5 жыл бұрын
I think the relationship between Anduin and Wrathion is interesting because Anduin was in part raised by Onyxia and betrayed by her. Do he may yet still have some sore spots for meddling black dragons. After all, Wrathion succeeded where Onyxia failed. And used Anduin's sense of mercy to do it.
@KatShaw
@KatShaw 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Thank you!! I haven't heard many people talking about the fact that it's the Cathedral of the Light that N'Zoth hits here. It's a very specific moment that I'm super happy they included. Both for what it means to Anduin specifically, but also to the player. It makes it feel like the Light itself is not enough to face the Old Gods at this point. That we are well and truly out of options.
@-Miasimon
@-Miasimon 5 жыл бұрын
I like to imagine the Cinematics team are watching this and nodding along, agreeing with what Taliesin is pointing out but are silently saying to themselves "Why didn't we think of that? We just did it because it looked cool." Seriously though, if something ever actually killed WoW off... the Cinematics team had *better* start making full on movies or a show, because they never fail to make 10/10 quality videos.
@faelirra
@faelirra 5 жыл бұрын
Taliesin: And this awesome nightmare scene. Suddenly commercials.
@InternetPwnDept
@InternetPwnDept 5 жыл бұрын
Anduin to Wrathion: "I said diamond ring, not diamond king!"
@davidfreeman8758
@davidfreeman8758 5 жыл бұрын
InternetPwnDept do we really wanna go down the road of wrathion having Anduins love child? LOL.
@InternetPwnDept
@InternetPwnDept 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidfreeman8758 I had nightmares about it...I hope it's just the madness of N'zoth, but you never know with today's Blizz writers.
@jeffh4544
@jeffh4544 5 жыл бұрын
The second this cinematic ended in game for me, my first thought was " Tali's gonna love this and I can't wait!"
@Thiefwriter
@Thiefwriter 5 жыл бұрын
I'll have you know these videos are the *best* way to watch a new cinematic, Tali
@joshuad5300
@joshuad5300 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion's face when he realized Anduin was throwing off top vibes.
@NAdorableYoung
@NAdorableYoung 5 жыл бұрын
Nah Anduin just be a angy bottom 😂
@jerry1dc
@jerry1dc 5 жыл бұрын
Nate Yung angry power bottom with a stamina buff
@ayato4743
@ayato4743 5 жыл бұрын
I think depending on the mood they'd definetly switch xD
@abydosianchulac2
@abydosianchulac2 5 жыл бұрын
please, Wrathion's entire story has been self-exploration and how he can use what he learned with the world. If he's not a bottom through and through, he's an evenly-balanced vers.
@SaraLovelace1
@SaraLovelace1 5 жыл бұрын
They're switches, bitches. Ugh I tried to write out something more detailed about power bottoms and service tops but Anduin is like my little brother I've known for 15 years at this point and I just *can't*.
@celanis7164
@celanis7164 5 жыл бұрын
This cinematic was SO awesome. Wrathion makes me swoon.
@joseont7950
@joseont7950 5 жыл бұрын
OMG the level of analisis this video have is amazing ! Great job guys
@Trigarta
@Trigarta 5 жыл бұрын
I totally forgot about Khadgar being absent throughout BfA.
@NetKatie
@NetKatie 5 жыл бұрын
"Thank you, Wowhead. A sentence that might as well be put on my tombstone at this point." Omg Taliesin's been killing me with these jokes XD
@brianstevenson6093
@brianstevenson6093 5 жыл бұрын
GREAT video Tali, I particularly love your pointing out that Stormwind looks safe, like home - but not anymore.
@Maiyinlikesmusic
@Maiyinlikesmusic 5 жыл бұрын
I hardcore, high-key ship these two, but when Anduin straigh out punched Wrathion, I cheered out loud. It was glorious! Thank you for these deep-dives, your knowledge in drama settings is invaluable
@martineweb3788
@martineweb3788 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Taliesin, I just wanted to tell you, that you don't have to apologize for stopping and starting and overanalyzing scenes! I (and I think many others) really enjoy your videos because of this! Keep this up! I love your content and you as a persona as well as Evitel!
@Vjuul
@Vjuul 5 жыл бұрын
I know you love references to older cinematics in the newer ones: The spire that falls after N'zoth's grab is almost a total recreation of the Dalaran Tower falling when Archimonde attacked it in Warcraft 3
@UghieYucky
@UghieYucky 5 жыл бұрын
"The boy-king serves at the master's table. Three lies will he offer you."
@samuelbean9302
@samuelbean9302 5 жыл бұрын
I thought he was going to say ‘did this cinematic get you hard’ instead of hyped. yes taliesin, yes it did.
@ayato4743
@ayato4743 5 жыл бұрын
After the video I saw that I grew a dick xD
@Heart-shapedBox
@Heart-shapedBox 5 жыл бұрын
@@ayato4743 Mood
@andisina1
@andisina1 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid ..please dont stop making them!and Ty for clarifying the "You killed my father bit'
@IanUniacke
@IanUniacke 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does anyone else feel like this isn't the first vision Anduin has had of N'Zoth?
@Lionbladier
@Lionbladier 5 жыл бұрын
Inner Anduin: *_Oh no, he's hot!_*
@quillsnwhiskers
@quillsnwhiskers 5 жыл бұрын
Better punch him then
@Lionbladier
@Lionbladier 5 жыл бұрын
@@quillsnwhiskers It's the only way to cope with his ex-boyfriend's convoluted plan to eliminate his future father-in-law.
@SaraLovelace1
@SaraLovelace1 5 жыл бұрын
Pfft that was Outer Anduin. You saw that look when Wrathion swanned in.
@Selentium
@Selentium 5 жыл бұрын
You know guys ... I was just doing my stuff in Uldum, having a kinda fun time, and then, I saw it again.... THIS BIG FUDGING SWORD! WHY DOES NOBODY CARE ABOUT THAT!?
@danielwells1734
@danielwells1734 5 жыл бұрын
Removing a 1000ft sword could do more harm to Azeroth.
@corgiw7281
@corgiw7281 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielwells1734 Everybody knows you don't just yank out a weapon like that until something's available to stop the bleeding.
@Selentium
@Selentium 5 жыл бұрын
Well yea probably. But I'd say we had a lot of time before N'Zoth.
@NinjaFlibble
@NinjaFlibble 5 жыл бұрын
it's probably because no one knows how XD we don't exactly have another titan handy....
@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ
@ShadowTheHedgehogCZ 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe nobody knows how to yank it out. It's probably even harder than to move a mountain. It's enormous. Don't really even know what's canonical size of that sword. If you go by the cinematic where Sargeras does the stabbing... the sword is MUCH MUCH bigger than in the actual game. In the game, you can fly above it's hilt. In that cinematic, the end of the hilt was basically far in space. How could anyone ever remove that?
@ScottyJStream
@ScottyJStream 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the Cata throwback! That was one of my favorite quest lines as well.
@oswaldovzki
@oswaldovzki 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Tali!! I really like those analysis video :]
@IraLivnat
@IraLivnat 5 жыл бұрын
More! I want more of just Taliesin talking about wow I want more!
@EmmaConstableEmma_101__
@EmmaConstableEmma_101__ 5 жыл бұрын
Me knowing Wrathion and Anduin are going to meet eachother again: 🥰 Me after Anduin punching Wrathion: 🥴
@ZickZak
@ZickZak 5 жыл бұрын
Unbareable! Luckily, my sub ends 'morrow, /safe!
@cyndrigaming
@cyndrigaming 5 жыл бұрын
The sexual tension in that moment is real 😂😂
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly 5 жыл бұрын
Bro's before hoe's. N-thot will not divide them. ^^
@luiz918
@luiz918 5 жыл бұрын
@@FreedomAndPeaceOnly I really want it to be much more than just bromance.
@charliek7381
@charliek7381 5 жыл бұрын
Love your analysis and it's great to see you excited! I'm hyped for this patch too and 8.3 did a great job amplifying it ^^
@bgtv5909
@bgtv5909 5 жыл бұрын
Blizz did a great job with this cinematic, even though I didn't play during Mists, I can sense the complicated history between them and I definitely want to see more.
@holy_shoot_its_grace
@holy_shoot_its_grace 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis as always!
@johanah.693
@johanah.693 5 жыл бұрын
As you play along, and get to Uldum, the king Phaoris says that their PRIESTS were having nightmares about the ruin to come....I think that is Blizz trying to tell us that priests are more vulnerable to N'Zoths corruption, including Anduin.
@MrToastyTank
@MrToastyTank 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work on these videos man we love them
@blackskull8125
@blackskull8125 5 жыл бұрын
I always love these videos! Blizzard, more cinematics please, we need more analysis!
@Reaper-hn1jt
@Reaper-hn1jt 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion reminds me of the Giggalo from Duece Bigalow in appearance :) Love the breakdown of this video and all the lovely insight you and Evi bring us every week Tali !!
@NinjaFlibble
@NinjaFlibble 5 жыл бұрын
thanks for clearing up the confusion with that line XD I read War Crimes, once...guess I missed Wrathion letting Garrosh out...although, in Wrathion's defense, Gul'dan's return was a whole long chain of events that had multiple people involved; player characters, Khadgar, Thrall...to name a few. One could say the true originator of that chain was Thrall for making Garrosh warchief in the first place. On another note, I'm not sure what I'm more tired of...fans taking every pair of characters who so much as glance in each other's direction and act like they're soul mates...or the "we absolutely loathe each other, we MUST be soul mates" trope. I remember in the 90s and early 00s when it was just a question of whether the opposite sexes could be just friends...not it seems it's a question of "can anyone be just friends with anyone?" -_- (yes, I expect people to yell and scream and call me a homophobe just because I still support characters being just friends and happen to be saying this against a homosexual pairing that I *don't* support.) (by the way, homophobe would imply I'm *afraid* of homosexuals...which I'm not....)
@witchimurloc
@witchimurloc 5 жыл бұрын
18:51 Well, that shot reminded me of deathwing destroying stormwind in the cataclysm opening cinematic. Coincidence? I think not!
@dusk1947
@dusk1947 5 жыл бұрын
I really do appreciate these video spotlights you produce after their release The first time I see game cinematics, the background is full of guild discord conversions and house hold distractions. I can occasionally watch again on WoW's KZbin. But your extra details make this a great watch
@gonx9906
@gonx9906 5 жыл бұрын
I have always thought that when wrathion says deathwing is his father is because of a cultural thing of dragon where they call the aspect always as mother or father, like in the sense they all belong to them.
@SacredBlazeXxX
@SacredBlazeXxX 5 жыл бұрын
The sexual tension between Anduin and Wrathion was so real..
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion does still give him winky glances or is it just me? XD Still thinking about how Blizzard gave Jaina a Dreadlord skin in HotS just because fans repeated for a year or so _" Jaina is a Dreadlord. "_ Fans created the Wranduin-ship... so now Blizz trolls with a Wranduin-Bromance!? ^^
@PZZRRR
@PZZRRR 5 жыл бұрын
Waldzwölf oh please this better not be a troll ... my poor heart D:
@Alex_Cohl
@Alex_Cohl 5 жыл бұрын
I wish I knew how to Quit you wrathion...
@jenniferchough
@jenniferchough 5 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to watch how hard people want to see something and thereby see it.
@PZZRRR
@PZZRRR 5 жыл бұрын
@@jenniferchough it's definitely tension tho... Goddammit
@aislingyngaio
@aislingyngaio 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion might just be referring to Deathwing as his father as a "father of the flight" kinda thing. Deathwing clearly can't be his biological father because it's canon that post-corruption Deathwing seared all his mates dead when he tried mating with them, all except one (Sinestra, and even she was horribly scarred physically and mentally as a result). If Nyxondra mated with her father (which maybe possibly we don't know), she'd be dead long before Wrathion's egg was laid tbh. As a side note, Wrathion did refer to Onyxia as "auntie Onyxia" back in the MoP leggo cloak questline. Just food for thought. She would have been his half-sister if Deathwing was his biological father, so clearly that can't be the case.
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 5 жыл бұрын
Anduin thought he was Varian for a moment there. He quickly remembered he’s just SOFF
@christianhagen9500
@christianhagen9500 5 жыл бұрын
@taliesin&evitel do you not think that this is a direct parallel to the opening shot in Warcraft 3 when medivh visits lorderon with his prophecy?
@thanasiszommanidis4433
@thanasiszommanidis4433 5 жыл бұрын
man realy i watched the hole video. this think you did there is pure talent mate ! i loved it !!! plz continue with those !
@n-rage531
@n-rage531 5 жыл бұрын
A dragon boy and a diamond guy might seem overwhelming for us... but on Azeroth, that's Tuesdays.
@nicolaj990
@nicolaj990 5 жыл бұрын
The boy king serves at the master's table, three lies will he offer you.
@Mamaleee123
@Mamaleee123 5 жыл бұрын
Damn!
@lorrieruff4402
@lorrieruff4402 5 жыл бұрын
So far that Anduin been standing at many tables, the comment you keep stating can mean a number of individuals.
@lorekeeper_marc
@lorekeeper_marc 5 жыл бұрын
The quote means Anduin (boy king) serves at N'Zoth's (the master of the author of the quote) table. Quite straightforward actually.
@Lionbladier
@Lionbladier 5 жыл бұрын
You know, a lot of people say this quote refers to Anduin...but what if it actually was in reference to Wrathion? Hear me out; he's known as the Black Prince ("prince" you could possibly refer to as a "boy-king"), his father (Deathwing) had been a previous pawn of N'zoth, and we know that he will be corrupted at some point since he's a boss in Ny'alotha. He's sleek, suave, and charismatic - and the lies he offers might not be intentional lies, but more...misunderstandings, in his desperation to find answers to protect himself and defeat N'zoth. Makes you think...
@meshri7
@meshri7 5 жыл бұрын
@@Lionbladier Maybe wrathion make anduin see the vision so thats is the second lie the first lie was his father(deathwing) death
@TheToneBender
@TheToneBender 5 жыл бұрын
14:23 Here that plate from deathwing should have been visible below
@Starfals
@Starfals 5 жыл бұрын
The way the cath got destroyed gave me the same vibes from the Warcraft 3 Archimonde/Dalaran cinematic. It was so good!
@josephperezcodes1173
@josephperezcodes1173 5 жыл бұрын
wrathion looks like Prince if he tried to grow a beard.
@Akomarongg
@Akomarongg 5 жыл бұрын
prince did grow a beard...
@HippieMagic
@HippieMagic 5 жыл бұрын
Well there is purple rain... sort of.... in a void kinda way.
@retrovertigov
@retrovertigov 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO, when Magni says "Lad..." and then the BG laughs came in. Hahahah.
@ampersandkai
@ampersandkai 5 жыл бұрын
Wrathion needed a proper cane in that cinematic. I want to see him walk about like a proper gentleman.
@TheToneBender
@TheToneBender 5 жыл бұрын
16:48 He punched with his right hand. Looks at his left.
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly 5 жыл бұрын
_" Should I punch him with my left too for a nice symmetrical feeling? "_
@billabney243
@billabney243 5 жыл бұрын
Evitel misspoke which hand delivered the first punch but the king looks down to notice that he has a clinched fist ready to punch the dragon guy again.
@jtortor
@jtortor 4 жыл бұрын
@Taliesin & Evitel What song is playing at 21:20 in this video? I keep trying to find it in BFA soundtracks, but no luck so far. 😕
@Avrysatos
@Avrysatos 5 жыл бұрын
His hair is amazing. It looks even better on the in game model.
@DISTurbedwaffle918
@DISTurbedwaffle918 5 жыл бұрын
"Oof! Dragons!" *Seinfeld theme plays, fade to black*
@913_Niyala
@913_Niyala 5 жыл бұрын
Also surprised there was no comment to the very end where Wrathion emphasizes, "old friend" but Anduin emphasizes, "advisor" =o
@TheToneBender
@TheToneBender 5 жыл бұрын
I don't consider Valeera to be Anduin's friend. I consider her to be his aunt.
@rosary_omen
@rosary_omen 5 жыл бұрын
Family members can still be friends
@lordmawkish1286
@lordmawkish1286 5 жыл бұрын
Him? Valeeroy Sanguinar?
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 5 жыл бұрын
Anduin has sexy aunts.
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly
@FreedomAndPeaceOnly 5 жыл бұрын
Valeera thinking _" Gosh angwy Anduin is so hawt. "_
@valkyriesardo278
@valkyriesardo278 5 жыл бұрын
After Varian died, Valeera transferred her loyalty from Varian to his son. She has been the young king's personal spy independent of SI:7 and she has acted as his courier to Baine. Her allegiance is a point of honor that does not hinge on mere friendship.
@Beautiful_Teeth
@Beautiful_Teeth 5 жыл бұрын
7:00 Oy, Tali! It's Ji who was tending to Baine's wounds, you even show us Mayla saying that. Mayla was sent back to protect Thunder Bluff in case of an attack.
@sauron153
@sauron153 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! Question: As a fellow keeper of forehead eyeballs, did you notice that Stormwind and the new zones force off that buff when you get there, but returns when you get back to Boralas? Thoughts?
@ramennoodles6496
@ramennoodles6496 5 жыл бұрын
I regret cleansing my forehead eyeball a lot.
@samo280
@samo280 5 жыл бұрын
Its also gone when you're inside the Eternal Palace!
@kirblar
@kirblar 5 жыл бұрын
It appears to be a BFA continents only thing, likely so that players can keep it without it trainwrecking transmogs in the future or in raids n such for group pictures.
@Jack_o_Lin_
@Jack_o_Lin_ 5 жыл бұрын
I think this may have been glossed over but there was a nod to the warcraft 3 cinematic where archimonde destroys dalaran. When N'zoth crushed the main point of the cathedral and it comes crashing down. It reminded me of that quite a bit.
@geekmastermind
@geekmastermind 5 жыл бұрын
The anticipation of the 8.3 incoming slash fic makes me feel tingly in places.
@xXGRUHAXx
@xXGRUHAXx 5 жыл бұрын
17:12 just like arthas, missing flower :ooo the begining of end xd
@sennaka
@sennaka 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Taliesin. This was adorable.
@boxtears
@boxtears 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Tali, you got it wrong with the hand thing. Anduin is looking at his left hand but he punched Wrathion with his right.
@HydraPhalanx
@HydraPhalanx 5 жыл бұрын
Did you also note another important part of that particular walkway? That as Wrathion talks about avoiding the fate of Deathwing we see the spot where the remnant of Deathwing was previously put up after his defeat, though it is still there in-game.
@Vinzenzx
@Vinzenzx 5 жыл бұрын
16:50 that is his left hand, not the right hand that he used to hit our baby dragon. COME ON Taliesin!!!!
@arachnophilegrrl
@arachnophilegrrl 5 жыл бұрын
This is the analysis I NEEDED. I thank you sir.
@harris6062
@harris6062 5 жыл бұрын
I actually burst out laughing - like really loudly my family was giving me looks - the first time I watched this cinematic and saw Anduin almost knock Wrathion's head off with that sucker punch. I know it was because of 'muh old gods' but seeing Anduin actually getting mad was nice rather than the usual 'muh love and peace'.
@cleonasedai
@cleonasedai 5 жыл бұрын
I may have watched Anduin punch him a few times. It was fairly satisfying
@shoka_01
@shoka_01 5 жыл бұрын
One other parallel that you missed, Tali, was the parallel between N’zoth knocking down the cathedral and the cataclysm cinematic when death wing knocks down the statue in the Valley of heroes and a shadow/fire lit sky. Potentially reminding us that we have experienced this darkness in stormwind before? Idk. Just an interesting thought!
@ryanlewis2277
@ryanlewis2277 5 жыл бұрын
Going on about sexual tension says more about the people watching it than what actually happened to be honest and the end when Anduin says *advisor* to me that had more of a subtle sarcastic tone than asking for help, other than that I agree 99.9% with what you said Taliesin, love these deep-dive videos excellent work as usual.
@HavocHounds1988
@HavocHounds1988 5 жыл бұрын
I think when Wrathion calls Deathwing his father he means it as a progenitor to his kind, not his real father because we don't know who that is. Sintharia (Sinestra) is the only black dragon that survived breeding with Neltharian, so he can't be Wrathion's actual father, and is actually his grandfather.
@Dan-zc3ou
@Dan-zc3ou 5 жыл бұрын
I love all of this ships! just found out about it and i'm looking at all the past content
@bonefetcherbrimley7740
@bonefetcherbrimley7740 5 жыл бұрын
12:12 That wrathion line just made me roll my eyes. Wrathion didn't even really know his father, Anduin did. Wrathion maybe very handsome, but he's kind of an ass.
@vaskopoh9512
@vaskopoh9512 5 жыл бұрын
he could never know him lmao
@mrspidey80
@mrspidey80 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Wrathion told me to kill his dad...
@ulrichpache3881
@ulrichpache3881 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Anduin punched Wrathion with his right, but looked down on his left hand ;-)
@alejandroderienosa4828
@alejandroderienosa4828 5 жыл бұрын
He wasnt necessarily looking at the fist he punched with. Just the anger that he felt as his fist were clenched in rage.
@5GreenTea
@5GreenTea 5 жыл бұрын
Ulrich Pache Or maybe he was thinking, "Damn, I should have gave him a left hook as well".
@Kaotiqua
@Kaotiqua 5 жыл бұрын
@@alejandroderienosa4828 Agreed- but the correction to Tali still stands. He did say "The very same hand that..."
@kaana4860
@kaana4860 5 жыл бұрын
I really these videos because you always symbolism i miss. In this case I missed the parallel better the legion epilogue and this cinematic which makes sense when you said it. I also missed evitel prediction of wrathion meeting auduin in one of the encrypted cinematics and for some reason I thought this one had been datamined which seems silly in hindsight. you also highlighted how much you could ship wrathion and auduin from just this video alone because i didn't how suggestive facial expressions were till you replayed them. I'm glad you explained that wrathion freed garrosh and how that lead to gul'dan being on the broken shore because had to remind me that wrathion was the person that freed garrosh as i had forgotten. I really liked this cinematic, my favourite bit was watching auduin punch wrathion as I may have watched that about 20 times. It was also really good to see n'zoth in the cinematic and it was great watching him destroy building. it was also good seeing wrathion new model in a cinematic because it's been amazing since we saw it in datamining and as I said previously it was great seeing him get punched in the face. honestly i'm not that surprised that auduin feel to corruption , i think the idea is that just about anyone could be unless super special like magni and auduin is just a priest which lets be honest priests fall to corruption a lot even in real life. I was already hyped for 8.3 but this cinematic and video definitely helped. I forgot to clear by bags again some i'm sure how many fish i caught but i think its 16 mauve stingers and 12 viper eel which is a little less than normal so that probably accurate. I would like apologise to the excessive use of also as i suck at writing and it worked for the sentences. it you read to the end of this comment i hoped you liked and i hope you have a good week. I will you at the next T & E video
@tairad9474
@tairad9474 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed while questing, that it was mentioned that priests are suffering "nightmares," and I thought about this moment. Anduin's vision and frustration.
@Ytschi
@Ytschi 5 жыл бұрын
16:47 actual he punched with his right hand but they show his left hand right there
@reizu7739
@reizu7739 5 жыл бұрын
The destruction of the cathedral in Anduin's vision also beuatifully references the destruction of Dalaran in a Warcraft III cinematic. That one accompanied by Archimond speaking of the folly of men, and their complete insignificance and those of their creations. Back then it was the daemon destroying a city of mages telling 'they will be consumed by the very fire they thought to control'. Now it's an Old God, the Void being, thrashing the Cathedral of Light. If thess set of details is indeed intentional that just bumps the already great cinematic waay up in the gloriously crafted ranking.
@GuusKlaas
@GuusKlaas 5 жыл бұрын
Oh my god... Roach in that Geralt and Dandelion shot... amazing...
@ramennoodles6496
@ramennoodles6496 5 жыл бұрын
Notice how at 21:58 The sun shines on Anduin and that Wrathion seems more in the shadows, showing how they contrast. Anyway, I thought that was cool, have a nice day!
@kaelthasstormstrider7462
@kaelthasstormstrider7462 5 жыл бұрын
Wow
@zackr.7628
@zackr.7628 5 жыл бұрын
Anduin: Call me Manduin. Wrathion: Wait but wh... Anduin: BITCH, MANDUIN I SAID!
@ValtheJean
@ValtheJean 5 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that loves that Baine is there? The love triangle is canon! ....no...I totally don't fantasize about Baine fighting Wrathion for Anduin's affection, what are you talking about?
@Theforsakenmedia
@Theforsakenmedia 5 жыл бұрын
Ew no. I ship mala & baine, they'd be cute af. The whole time wrathion & anduin were arguing I kept thinking, "just kiss already" 😂🤦‍♂️
@burningisis
@burningisis 5 жыл бұрын
Oh I've totally shipped Baine with Mayla. Its bad.
@ValtheJean
@ValtheJean 5 жыл бұрын
@@burningisis I'm sure they're definitely going for that ship, but damn it I still hold out hope for the cow love to blossom. Plus it would be a perfect way to finally get rid of the two faction system (or at least ease it up a bit.)
@-Miasimon
@-Miasimon 5 жыл бұрын
You fool! Now that he's seen how hot Wrathion is, he's going to fight Anduin for *Wrathion's* affection!
@ValtheJean
@ValtheJean 5 жыл бұрын
@@-Miasimon I would legitimately pay money to see this XD
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