Talk on Science and Spirituality - Prof Padmanabhan Krishna

[@bbhusari]

It was such a pleasant surprise to see Prof. Krishna after nearly 25 years, though virtually! Last time He spoke on education and the person taking notes from his lecture was no less than Dr . Jichkar, a renowned scholar , educationist and minister in Maharashtra Government.

[@biologybaba7075]

I also wanted to be a scientist, Currently I am pursuing my masters in life sciences, But I am totally oriented in Spirituality along with my research interest..❤

[@inakinohinakina]

The very scientific 👍🏼

[@vasumathigovindarajan2139]

Very very lucid. Clarity at its excellence. Salutations to our scientist.

[@agane1sh251]

Amazing and unbelievable lecture given during this disturbed and agitated environment in the present world. With gratitude I express my humble thanks to them. Regards

[@ganeshramamurthi9663]

What a coincidence for me.. I am just now reading the book " Jewel in a silver platter" by Prof. Krishna...

[@tinkuray4018]

Thank you Prof Krishna for this illuminating talk. Deeply grateful for being exposed to this.

[@Blazecutter12]

Jiddu belonged to an era where Science was just beginning to make great insights. Western science today is blindly copying ancient Hindu and Buddhist perspectives on consciousness and sharing it as their own. Rajiv Malhotra talks about this cultural appropriation. Indians should be proud that Hindus are the only ones to give an answer to the hard problem of consciousness. Even recently, there is no difference between what Hindu philosophy and the great Roger Penrose says. Jiddu, if alive today, would stop lampooning Hindus and would better appreciate the Hindu perspective. The great Erwin Schrodinger guessed that the only answer to the problem of consciousness lies with the Vedas. So, Mr. Krishna, do try to rebut Schrodinger's ideas and prove him wrong the next time. If you want Jiddu's ideas to stay relevant, you will have to apply your own common sense and reinterpret ideas according to the times. Jiddu was right about the inquiry but got many of the answers wrong. Jiddu was a great guy, but as a follower, do more homework the next time. Hope more IISc Professors will read up about Penrose and Schrodinger and have their own perspective about Hindu beliefs. Do not start off blindly with the assumption that everything about your culture is messed up.

[@vijayalakshmi1948]

Excellent lecture. Great clarity. Educative. Thankful, grateful.

[@pankajkumarbarman765]

Amazing ! Thank you for sharing ❤

[@Scientist_Ritik_Tiwari]

Great lecture 🙏

[@biswajitdatta8637]

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[@avi2125]

1:04:10 In religious pursuits, śraddha श्रद्धा is a primary requisite on the path. The inquiry stops at some point. Brahman. Īśvara. Whoever. Whatever. You cannot question the premise of a Consciousness/Brahman. It just IS - one has to accept. But it is not as though there is no test, no verifiability. It is subjective, yes. Through some sort of reflection and absorption - manana, nidhidhyāsana, jhāna... But at least Indian darśana-s have raised the question about verifying an adept's enlightened state also (the early questions in Buddhism on the arhat's status). So the enquiry seems to stop, there is some acceptance of basic premises, but there are also lingering questions. What role does trust, belief, assumption etc play in scientific inquiry? Thanks IISc for this wonderful conversation. We need more please!

[@RiteshArora-s9x]

ending of that entity which has all these doubts is spirituality

[@inakinohinakina]

​@RiteshArora-s9x thanks for explaining what spirituality is according to you,, God bless in Jesus Christs Name 😂

[@RiteshArora-s9x]

@@inakinohinakina not me. Upanishad

[@inakinohinakina]

Science and spirituality go together like 1 and 1

[@paperclips1306]

Yin yang. 1 and 0 form the basis of all numbers

[@Mr_ST_720]

Its null or void vs infinity.. And Science and Spirituality are opposite. Science use logical neural network while Spirituality uses believed or emotional neural networks in brain. They are not same. Till infinity you will see they will be parallel

[@inakinohinakina]

Verse 1 Chapter 1 In the beginning God

[@brave_new_india_science]

❤IISC❤ krishnamurti

[@Bhagya.Solanki]

Science is a culture of doubt, and spirituality is a culture of Belief. These two things should not be intertwined and will never be able to get intertwined!

[@rajendradangi2585]

Not in India... It is for the most part is about seeking... That is why Indian tradition don't have fixed God given set of dogmas...i know you are you are not be scientific here as you are saying things without knowing... Perception can be deceiving.... In fact reading upanishad and Buddhist psychology made me question everything (forget about God or God) which can't be measured meaning science is not there yet... Science is still(for most part) all about measurement...infact advance science is also based on certain assumption and belief like theorisation of black hole.... Remember everything evolve/change even beleif in God or idea of God....

[@mojoomla]

Science addresses the question "kim idam" ? What is this ? Spirituality addresses the question "ko' ham" ? Who am I ? How can these two ever come together when they address fundamentally different questions ?

[@anandatheertha3004]

​@@rajendradangi2585I am third in line to comment I know their might be a fourth one to continue.intervining of science and spirituality is just like facilities you can have separate excellence centres for both but you can pursue separately and simultaneously in both depending on one's capacity one can reach the excellence in both the fields.when it comes to Buddha and Upanishads both are source of knowledge which is reverberating in professor's address as summom bonum of JK's talk+professor's talk+Q&A Buddha is an incarnation among Dashavataras which will last till his next that is Kalki .when it comes to incarnations(avataara)there are six different avataaras ex:yugavatara,gunavataara,lilaavataara,shaktyavataara,manvantaravataara, purushaavataara. There is purpose for every incarnation just like krisna states in bhagavathgeetha yada yada hi dharmasya glaanir bhavathi bhaaratha abyuktaanam adharmasya tadatmaanam srujaamyaham .means whenever their is decline in the virtues of religion krishna will appear to uphold the same.here Buddha's incarnation and message is spread far and wide all over the world till such time humanity is getting benefitted . In Indian context to reestablish Vedic culture shankaracharya's advent and establishing Advaita philosophy further refinement is vishishtadwaita and final is dwaita philosophy by madhwacharya.while propounding refinement Vedic scriptures of Vedas,Upanishads,ashtadasha mahapuranas,upapuranas are justly used . As professor quoted Japanese saying of follow the wisdom of Wiseman rather than following Wiseman you can take the wisdom of Upanishads and if you wish you can follow the acharyas in disciplic succession to persue the philosophy to make foray into unknown to get better insights of unknown by practising devotional service to supreme personality of godhead. Final and very important is as per professor's remark that Jesus took a different path than Jews by not adopting eye for eye and tooth for tooth is significant here and well supported by JK where there is no love and trying to achieve it is causing the conflict in the present scenario is the conflict in Israel which is again supported by gospels and expansionism of perticular faith Ttowards the end language is the medium to express one's views without any hindrance comfortably whether any regional language or Hindi and English, content is more important than mannerism in which it is presented.

[@MS-bg9lr]

Bagys solanki, how do you arrive this conclusion about science and spirituality.

[@ShubhLakshnaPandey]

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[@premranjan1994]

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[@visheshvashisth]

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[@YogAroodha]

It is a shame divisive political views entered IISc. What is the point of speaking Hindi in Bangalore, Karnataka at an institute that teaches all courses in English? These rogues who do not care about keeping a diverse nation together, bring personal justifications to divide people on emotional issues. These things will lead to violent reactions. An addendum with some kind of apology would be better than sticking to unfruitful self-righteous divisive views that immediately distance many dissatisfied viewers. IISc may not suffer because it does not require advertisers to support its efforts, donations from sane people, and not an elected body that cares about general public, but the damage it causes to the outside society by employing and allowing divisive people within its walls is dangerous.

[@brave_new_india_science]

You are Foolish enough to ignore

[@YogAroodha]

@@brave_new_india_science Ignore what?

[@ugc1784]

I can see some comments from some gentlemen casting aspersions on the use of Hindi in this event. I was surprised that they are against the use of a language of our own country. A language which is spoken by almost 500 million people in the entire north and understood by almost 900 million including the South. Undoubtedly some intellectuals are still suffering from the colonial hangover.

[@nsmurty4296]

Sorry, this talk was quite underwhelming. The speaker is thoroughly situated in the western intellectual framework, by the way he has been trying to define science, the way he intellectualizes the Indian traditions themselves and how he contrasts with the western ones. Most of what he says run completely counter to the Indic darshanas and particularly the Indic framework. This nonsense about everyone being the same etc. is an import from the west, just as humans come in two varieties etc. Indic frameworks provide a far more deep and sophisticated way of posing these that the speaker appears inured to. For example, a thorough understanding of Sankhya, guna and sarira theories and the theories of the koshas can be applied to provide a nuanced understanding of what is a female vs male. So one needs to avoid this western nonsense of posing questions which disappear with a nuanced understanding. Please support the Indic views, the emphasis on sastra, the motivation to study things in depth, without prejudice, study prejudice itself to understand its layers and how it informs understanding. Try to understand why sastra evolved for everything including language, music, phonetics, speech production, grammar, etc. and how it can be applied to the world around and within you.

[@Blazecutter12]

Great point, cannot believe that people who trash Hindus get a lot of prominence

[@Mr_ST_720]

Although I am spiritual n believe in guru and god. But I cannot equate science to spirituality. Science is infinite..theories after theories will be proved n practically demonstrated going forward. Spiritual is a Scientific process of of believing.

[@Totan777U]

You're getting Indian philosophies wrong

[@MS-bg9lr]

Please explain scientific process of believing

[@ramanathannv6426]

Language is meant to communicate ideas to the other. What use is to deliver a lecture in Hindi when it's neither our national language nor understood by teeming millions of our brothers and sisters who can't understand Hindi.

[@ajaydhakad885]

Friend, then what about hindi speaking people , how would they understand such things?

[@ramanathannv6426]

@ajaydhakad885 what about those who don't know Hindi? For example someone from the southern and far eastern part of our great country. Hence it shall be our endeavor to nurture our integration without emphasizing on any one of the Indian languages including Hindi and of course English. Translations of such lectures can be had with the effective use of technology,especially in technology driven environment

[@ajaydhakad885]

@ramanathannv6426 I know that, that's why the better way is to learn many indian languages. English is a colonial burden we are still carrying . And we have to find solutions to get rid of it. Why not to talk in your language? Because English is not even your mother language. Let us talk in Tamil, Telugu, kannada, hindi etc. Let us make our educational system that way.

[@jdasubramanya933]

Whatever may be the (ulterior motive ) reason ,use of Hindi in this conversation is not at all acceptable. IISc is in Bangalore. All the 100 % people ( teachers and students )from different parts the Country in IISc know and use of English for study and research. They study/research in English. Therefore is no justification for this Hindi !

[@sivakumarpr2480]

​​​@@ajaydhakad885 I am a south Indian and lived in Sri Lanka for many years. It is foolish to brand English as a colonial language and we’ve been speaking it for 300 years. This irrational and barbaric return to indigeneity project has been appropriated by the RSS and the BJP who are swallowing in the gutters of Hindi which abounds only in Bollywood knowledge. The reality is that English actually connects us a lot, because the second or third generation of the diaspora of not only Eelam Tamil or any other Indian languages, but all knowledge seeking and probing people speak English and for them this is their history; it doesn’t matter whether they get the history of their people in their mother tongue. It is only through English, they can get access to all history and knowledge relating to all subjects from science to spirituality.

[@shridharaithal1433]

There can only be one truth where there is no external and internal. Religion as understood or portrayed is as in abrahamic religions. Hindu is not a religion FYI. Upanishadic teaching, Buddha's teaching and JK's are one and the same, which say loud and clear that truth is no different than the conscious awareness.

[@murugans-el8np]

no spirit in science.. pl do not confuse...

[@susenkrishnahowladar8148]

In the capacity of Esteem one of the best Institutes, IISC would play more important role in the field of Scientific research and Innovation with the temperament of Spiritual Heritage of Bharat. Science without Ethics is a Gigantic Demon, may be the cause of unimaginable Human Suffering.

[@ExplainedbyVishal]

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[@edothilthulasidasan9124]

Spiritual plane is above intelligence. Science is below intelligence Bhagavad gita is very precise on this .yo buddhe para tas tu sa. Mixing up these two and finding fault with spiritual knowledge and realisation is a bhramam. Science has limitations. Its on intellectual platform

[@Sandakathmini01]

If you are racist you can't develop your spirituality. Do you agree with me?

[@akvermma]

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