Talking History: Wars of the Roses, Katherine of Aragon and Bess of Hardwick

The Wars of the Roses, or the Cousins Wars, were one of the most deadly and tumultuous times in English history, resulting in the death of many nobles. Today, Rachael Dickzen and I talk about some of the key players of the time: Henry VI, Edward IV, the Kingmaker, and Richard, Duke of York. We also discuss the women of the Wars of the Roses, including Elizabeth Woodville, Margaret Beaufort and Margaret of Anjou. We take a look at the family tree of Edward III and how that affected history, and we also touch base on sanctuary and quick executions.
Then historian and author Heather Darsie joins us again for Ask the Expert. Today’s topic is Katherine of Aragon (and her family), and we ask Heather the questions you submitted on social media. You’re really going to enjoy this one as Heather once again shatters our idea of what actually happened between the sheets with Katherine and Arthur Tudor.
Lastly, Steph joins us again to share with you the story of the amazing Bess of Hardwick - you won’t want to miss this episode….listen in segments if you need to, but be sure to listen to it all.
Wars of the Roses: Open - 39:37
Katherine of Aragon: 39:38 - 1:08:34
Bess of Hardwick: 1:08:35 - 1:18:30
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Credits:
Written by: Rebecca Larson & Stephanie Stohrer
Voiced by: Rebecca Larson, Stephanie Stohrer, Rachael Dickzen & Heather R. Darsie
Produced by: Rebecca Larson
Imaging by: Troy Larson
Music Credits:
Music: Pavana alla veneziana by Paul O'Dette, Composed by Joan Ambrosio Dalza
Resources:
TudorsDynasty.com
TudorsDynastyPodcast.com
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Patreon.com/TudorsDynasty

[@patriciahill6839]

your podcasts are like a pot of gold I love them.

[@rickyellis8505]

Literally my way to escape the world for a short while thank you!😊

[@jkern64]

Really enjoyed this episode. Thank you very much!

[@katiejamison4238]

I love Philippa Gregory's books. The Other Boleyn girl is what got me hooked and dragged into the Tudor world. Love her books.

[@123bgmiller]

Same! Her book about Anne Boelyn made me a huge fan of all of the women in this time period. She really brings the women, and men, to life!

[@annkelly0072]

Great episode! Fascinating bit of information about the missive sent to Spain expressing worry over Catalina's eating habits. I learn something new with each episode. I'm curious if there are any letters or documents in existence which express concern over her appearance (frail, sickly, etc...) after marriage to Henry VIII?

[@teresapaskell5459]

I don’t think Ann Boleyn was in the Tower for a couple of months

[@julieblackstock8650]

18 days i think

[@deemonrose2086]

I think Anne Boleyn was imprisoned for a little over 2 weeks before she was executed, so certainly a pretty swift "punishment".

[@sarahrudd248]

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[@bonusgolden12]

Whoopsy..Anne Boleyn was only imprisoned May 2nd, executed May 19th. It was Kathryn Howard who was held from November to February.

[@jmledwell7296]

Gregory does take liberties but she's a solid fiction writer ...

[@brigidmartin]

The Great on Hulu makes me cry - different historical period yes the story of how historically FICTION it is and I pray those watching actually do research

[@Agathanagatha]

Like like like like like

[@lisaknight3901]

I can’t listen anymore 😂

[@Agathanagatha]

@@lisaknight3901 you probably gave up in the first few minutes like I did and probably everybody else.I doubt she gets invited back

[@cherylfraser7914]

Great episode! BUT!I lost count on (like )how many times( like )you said the word (like?, )that was the only part that (like )you shouldn’t repeat over and over , especially when you are being taped for a very large audience across the world

[@jeremiahgabriel5709]

*Listening...listening* "speaking at TudorCon...." Excuse me? That's a thing??? *goes off to research*

[@Chipoo88]

The York line did not only descend from the female line. They descended from the 4th son and then the 2nd through the female line. And this guest doesn’t know basics about the black prince and she’s talking about the Wars of the Roses?

[@roxannepearls901]

The women of the Cousins War and Tudor eras were not “behind the scenes”. They were relegated to that diminutive by the only voices that were given credence in medieval and Early Modern English for the previous 500 years, male voices. These women were not brood mares of royal men. They led England into battle, put sons into realms of power and shaped policy. There would be no England as we know it without the forces of nature that were the Plantagenet, Lancastrian, Castilian/Aragonese, Tudor women.

[@TudorsDynasty]

Roxanne Pearls touched a nerve. If you think we don’t think they were an integral part of the wars, you are mistaken.

[@Chipoo88]

Thank you. Very interesting topics. Correction: Anne Boleyn was not in the Tower of London for 2 months but only about 17 days

[@tekknomadchen5285]

I hate to disagree with you guys but I've read the Philippa Gregory books about a million times and she never suggests that Richard and George fought with Edward before he married Elizabeth Woodwille. She rather states that they are wards of the earl of Warwick to learn their manners, get educated and to learn the art of battle and jousting. Otherwise, great episode!

[@marcyaskins1360]

I also fell in love with the York’s after watching The White Queen , no judgment

[@bonusgolden12]

I confess...it is very hard to listen to an educated, articulate woman who ends her sentences as if asking a question. Sorry. I am that easily irritated.

[@Chipoo88]

Henry VII was not a miser as his expense records show. The way he dealt with the negotiations for Katherine do not reflect how he lived in general. There is plenty of evidence to support this.

[@Copperkettle-y7v]

Speaker said “like” so many times, very hard to take seriously. Couldn’t watch it.

[@anitasimon7201]

I absolutely agree. I just discovered this channel and like it very much, but with every other word being "like" I had to turn it off.

[@123bgmiller]

Same here. It's unfortunate bc she's very knowledgeable about these people.