The Children of the Forest's Secret Plan | What Game of Thrones Couldn't Show You (How ASOIAF Ends)

[@TalkingThrones]

This is a remake of a video I released over 5 years ago before Game of Thrones ended. I still think there are some great ideas in the original video, but I hate the way it was produced. I can't help but cringe whenever I go back and listen to some of my old videos, for various reasons, and I wanted to make some slight changes to the overall theory. Most of the "evidence" is the same, but I wanted to give it a different ending. Just to clarify, I don't think Bran will turn into an ice zombie like we saw in the show. I think he will still look exactly the same, more or less, but it will be his mind that is corrupted. Let me know what you think if you make it all the way through. Thanks for watching!

[@TheThirdManu]

link to original video?

[@tylerchapman9234]

I'm not able to buy into your theory. Bloodraven was of house Blackwood. He killed his own kin to follow the Azor Ahai promise

[@sanchittandon9196]

What is the use of all this? HBO is not going to make any sequels of game of thrones.

[@SarahPriceMoore]

You’re amazing! I LOVE your videos and I’ve been watching them for YEARS. Thank you for your continued efforts. Also, Jojen paste is one of my favorite theories. Thank you. ❤❤❤

[@SarahPriceMoore]

@@sanchittandon9196books exist.

[@bambi42]

I have many times thought that Martin made a trap to Benioff and Weis telling them that Bran will become the king, but in reality Bran will become the Night King.

[@TalkingThrones]

Yes! Only not the Night King from the show. Bran will embrace the darkness, like Bloodraven told him, and become the king of the night!

[@bambi42]

@@TalkingThrones Yes of course not the Night King of the show. I just wish that Martin can finish the books one day so we can read the whole story

[@sophiaeressea5687]

there is also the option that Bran might become the king of Grendel's children, whoever they might be

[@BarrackObamna]

@@TalkingThronesyou’re making a giant leap in assuming that any real work is being made on the series. I hope I’m wrong but George will die before finishing it all.

[@aussiewanderer6304]

But he can never have a Queen of the Night, because that title belongs to Whitney Houston.

[@GnosticInformant]

this is exactly what crossed my mind when I watched GOT for the second time and noticed how different Bran becomes when he comes back beyond the wall and Meera is upset with him and leaves as if she knew he was dead and gone. Also, Bran knew he was going to become King, and accepted the Kingship as if it was his plan the entire time! The 3 eyed raven won the Game of Thrones without anyone noticing.

[@KaiPhD]

This!

[@sarah-jaynemcdonald2594]

D&D did that on purpose

[@nestaismail9189]

Bro Bran said it countless times , the 3eyes raven isn't the man tht was in the cave nor Bran,it's an entity tht needs a vessel to keep the record of humanity so every nw and then it will need to chnage its vessel same way you would eventually change your 👖 when it gets old. I mean Bran said it countless times when ppl called him by his name or Stark he said he wasn't tht nomore. This was such an obvious part in the show it amazes me people need someone to break down the obvious 😂😂 its like ppl cannot comprehend what they consume anymore ,they need a someone to spoon feed them.

[@carolbriscoe9337]

@@GnosticInformant or the Children won. Bran is now under their control

[@WineandFrom]

This one of the best videos and theories I've seen in a while.

[@johncrafton8319]

This is exactly why I think D&D were the wrong people for the job. They seriously did not understand the source material, nor did they seem to care.

[@MyDevilishLullaby]

They did not like the fantasy-magic themes as well, even though they were integral parts of the story

[@bernhardmuster2776]

they did care once. In the earlier seasons. But after season 4, they received an offer for the next star wars and they really wanted to do it, but were still bound to game of thrones. They wanted to end it as quickly as possible, pushing through it. They didnt care anymore if the writing was bad, as long as it comes to an end fast. This is when they banned GRRM from counceling. According to GRRM, he begged them to give him info in what direction the show is going, but they refused and basicaly ghosted grrm. The funny thing is, after the bad press from the last 2 seasons of got, the offer they received for star wars was cancelled and they were left with nothing. Got what they deserved. They basically ruined one of the biggest fantasy storylines of our time, and did that on purpose because they thought its for their career.

[@Krackonis]

Well, finding out that Humans came from The Steel Angels who are occupying their enemies homeworld blew my mind. The long nights moon cracking has prevented any further landings, but the humans who are psychic so can influence humans still on Planetos.... Like make visions in the flames. The se Steel Angels also use wights as slaves.... So they brought necromancy. to the children.

[@ijj2286]

They did good until their source material ran out.

[@SithScribe21]

Such a genius theory! Thanks for sharing!! Love your ASOIAF/GoT content, looking forward for more - til then, I’ll be awaiting more corn 🌽

[@TalkingThrones]

Appreciate you 😊

[@buddhastl7120]

The only way the show makes sense is if a later show tells us Bran/Bloodraven is the true villain of the show representing humanity’s greed that will one day destroy the world and the White Walkers were created to keep him from destruction

[@trebrown8144]

Not the clear depictions of how satan gets into our world? Cmon agents gotta do better than that😂😂

[@lordtx90]

D&D not just ruined some plot lines but each and every one of them .. but the best part is they lost the star wars show for which they rushed and ruined GoT

[@kennyhudson9201]

At least they gave us an ending. I respect that more than never giving one like Martin the soap opera writer.

[@SayfumaniMyG]

@@kennyhudson9201Couldn’t disagree more 😂

[@kennyhudson9201]

@@SayfumaniMyG I know, I don't get it. You would rather have nothing than something. Isn't that just a child like tantrum? I'd rather have nothing than something makes no sense to me, but I accept that some people just make no sense to me.

[@SayfumaniMyG]

@@kennyhudson9201 I disagreed with your point of „respecting that more“, because of the whole context, what could have been, if they just accepted, that they are burnt out and they could give it to someone else who was genuinely passionate about it, instead of making the most pathetic ending which I couldn’t have even thought of, even if my intentions were to make the worst ending. So yes, I respect it more, to know ones limit and not force it, even if that means you’re left with nothing, instead of the biggest crap ever. Maybe with this example it will make sense even for you. Would you prefer non-existence or the most painful and never ending existence?

[@SayfumaniMyG]

@@kennyhudson9201 The reason why people make no sense to you, is because you probably never really reflected. Of course there will be from human to human differences in what they would rather prefer something instead of nothing, but given the right choices, everyone would prefer in some cases nothing instead this specific something. For example: Would you have no sexual relationship at all or having a sexual relationship with your mother? And if you dare to say none, than you don’t make sense to yourself.

[@emmyland3162]

Bran was so off, I hadn’t thought the 3ER had taken him but that the Night King had. I also just realised and can’t believe I never saw it before. The stones around the tree with the COTF have the same pattern the Others make with the limbs at Last Hearth. I agree too the CTOF and the Others are either in alliance or different breeds perhaps of one enemy. At one time, Bran is asked what the Others want, and he said 'Me.' If that was 3ER responding, why does NK want him? And who ends up on The Iron Throne then? Bran? or 3ER? or NK? And if the CTOF still live, can they not make another Other? I just struggle to accept they were defeated but there are many things I struggle to accept about the show's endings.

[@baronoflivonia.3512]

Great video. I still think your alternate version of the last season, and a next one were way better than ending we got.

[@TalkingThrones]

Thank you! I put a lot of work into those.

[@daniellerhymes2842]

As someone who has never read the books i wish they used this material. It explained so much and would have been awesome to see on screen

[@thomasquigley8622]

what if Bran's role is to end the whole source of corrupt magic that brought the White Walkers in the first place? The White Walkers were used to fight The First Men. The White Walkers (The Others in the books) are permanent ice shadows cast from the weirwoods, using blood magic. The Children of The Forest were desperate and created a weapon of mass destruction. What if I told you that Old Nan is actually Leaf (the Child of the Forest) using a glamor spell to hide her identity, waiting at Winterfell for "the Bran child" to end all of this?

[@PapaEmeritus_4evr]

@@thomasquigley8622 Good point. I've heard this theory before and really thought about it. ✌️

[@PapaEmeritus_4evr]

Do you think you'll read the books? You'll LOVE them. There is just so much more. I have the books but I also have them on Audible. I listen to Roy Dotrice read them then follow along in a PDF format as well. He is REALLY good at narrating. R.I.P. Roy Dotrice.

[@daniellerhymes2842]

@PapaEmeritus_4evr I actually got the books as a gift years ago and I found the story hard to keep up with but that was before I was really into the show. Now that I'm heavy into it I may give the books another try

[@vickiebutcher1161]

Oh my Lord! You’ve got to read the books. There’s so much more to immerse yourself in.

[@konstantinkrastev4478]

If you read previous George Martin writing like And Seven Times Never Kill Man! (which has bachalon the pale child which we have in ice and fire, and the golden core which are bunch of genticists , Planetos is probably located in 1000 worlds) and current one like Elden ring which is literally about a tree collecting souls. The theme always is about a supernatural system that kind of takes over a group of species, eventually dumping them for new ones. Kind of like the bank of Bravos quote, you can take a stone out of the bank temple but the temple keeps its form. The Weirwood network installed itself amongst different species like the children of the forest and now with Bran it will take over the humans since the children are dying out. The others probably want to destroy it because its trying to take control of them

[@Krackonis]

The children are not dead, the oily black sone blocks them..... "There are no 'children' in Asshai", but the petroleum still flows in rivers from the Shadow, likely where the spacecraft and tech was destroyed by the Cannibal Children and their trees. The CoTF are gonna break up the moon and kill as many humans as possible again. The Maesters appear to serve the Children or make them benign. When, in truth, they needed to prevent the new weapons from killing them.

[@Yosemite_sam694]

The children of the forest and the blood raven is one of those mystical elements im not sure George has fully thought out yet

[@TalkingThrones]

I agree with that. There's a lot of potential there. I'm looking forward to Bran's future chapters the most. I NEED to know what's going on in that cave.

[@garethmartin6522]

I disagree, because GRRM's science fiction based heavily in biological elements. I think this may likely have been one of the first things he thought of.

[@GothPaoki]

He might have thought of it first but he didn't necessarily flesh it out

[@privatechannel8462]

Nah, he's background is tv scripts, he's making this up as he goes, which is why it's taking so long. He has no plan...

[@potakos25]

This could set things for the “ SNOW” show. That the night king is now the king of Westeros 😮

[@rev.chuckshingledecker]

I believe HBO has scrapped plans for that show. Kit Harrington said something like that in an interview.

[@millieskid]

It was Kit.and his team that approached HBO for a SNOW spinoff. They had storylines, plots, & outlines already drawn. I believe they were interested in producing a "character study' about Jon Snow and how he's been affected by the events of his past. Kit hinted at this at the GoT fan convention in 2022. An employee in HBO's programming dept revealed in an interview 2 weeks ago that SNOW was DOA~dead on arrival. Kit recently confirmed it's been cancelled. It's unfortunate.

[@potakos25]

@@rev.chuckshingledecker what?? Noooo that's sad!! The one storyline they kinda owe to the audience... 🥲

[@potakos25]

@@millieskid that's truly sad!! I was waiting for that show so bad. Thank for all the info 🥲

[@millieskid]

@@potakos25 You're welcome. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. I'm just as disappointed as you are, as well as many, many other fans. As a result of HBO's decision to scrap the SNOW sequel, I won't be supportive of the other prequels in development.

[@Father_Daniel]

Great video! I was always so upset they didn't give us more backstory to the children of the forest in the final season. Of course we got nothing on the White Walkers and the Night King either as far as backstory and/or motivations

[@crazybanana331]

Love this ❤ I’m glad I’m not the only one who can’t move on from Brynden Rivers’ and children of the forest clear involvement in what happened😂

[@scamp744]

This does make a lot of sense, at first I thought nah grasping at straws, but then you reminded about the crow talking to bran as he fell, and what you say about the children and the others working together, all I can say is every character killed by the others you see them risen but you never see a zombie child of the forest in their ranks. Great episode 🫡

[@praetorian3902]

The way I always looked at it is the 3 Eyed Raven got tired of being a tree and decided to be the ruler of Westeros instead. So he guided Bran to his cave, supplanted Bran's consciousness with his own (hijacked his body basically by transferring his consciousness into Bran somehow) and took the actions and lack of action needed for him to end up as King. He needed someone who was nobility because hijacking the body of a "childen of the forest" wouldn't do - imagine a nobody coming to King's Landing and claiming the throne, he would be rejected if not thrown in a dungeon instantly. No legitimacy.

[@Bananaficiary]

He also needed a warg, since he would probably want to keep his ability (as wargs lose the ability to warg when taking permanent residence in another body- prologue of Dance)

[@0311CARR]

The Snow show should retcon or redo season 8. If not, we need the white walkers / wights to still be around. Also we need to see the isle of faces, the green men and House Reed.

[@AB-ee5tb]

I think they already cancelled the show 😢

[@TalkingThrones]

Yes, yes, and yes!

[@LDW12887]

They dont own you anything though

[@AB-ee5tb]

@@LDW12887 they don’t own anything? That sucks

[@stevem2323]

@@AB-ee5tb Snow? Not officially.

[@dexxxxed4297]

Plz more long content like this. Luv your vids

[@TalkingThrones]

Thank u 😊

[@lordtx90]

He needs some updates to make videos Game of Thrones is over and House of the Dragon is filming .. what will he make videos about if there's no material... whenever there's any news he updates us

[@dexxxxed4297]

@@lordtx90 he could try the In Deep Geek or Alt Shift X approach. I'm a fan of his & trying to give helpful suggestions

[@lordtx90]

@@dexxxxed4297Haha i know bro I'm not saying u r hating or criticizing him or calling u a hater .. I'm just saying currently there's nothing to update plus the Dance of the Dragon is already completed so there cant be predictions but yes he can make a lot of videos on Asoiaf books .. i know u r saying it in a positive way 👍

[@lordtx90]

​@@dexxxxed4297if it helps try David lightbringer.. he makes videos on fan theories and predictions on ASOIAF universe

[@jamajnasoares5702]

This changes EVERYTHING. (even the miracle of making the TV show's ending better) THANK YOU for still being doing this.

[@Kesapaiva]

Have to be honest, i liked your story and idea what might happen, like it sounds possible, I have looked at many ideas and this is definitely the best

[@DavePryor302]

How do people just write and create worlds like this. Authors blow my mind

[@Tina-tmd16]

Awesome I hope this would happen keep em coming TT

[@bakionigeri6414]

Talking thrones, you see how when you're crafting a theory or story, you consistently reference the books? That's the type of energy we need for all the game of thrones shows. After season 4 they should have hired you to take it from there.

[@charmedlilsis1]

This is an interesting theory and would make for a great spinoff sequel. Daenyrs could come back to stop the children of the forrest and zombie Bran. And maybe they could explain the fall of Old Valyria in the process.

[@bandoogiemanz]

If interested, you should consider reading Talking thrones season 9 playlist. He basically came up with his own sequel after the end of the show.

[@jessemeyer86]

When reading the books this has always seemed like the logical direction and progression given the history we’re given and the cryptic way the children of the forest talk. Good points, great video

[@danbauer3669]

Awesome! Maybe you mentioned, but the First Men broke the green pact by making peace with the Andal's. So, that's further motivation for their actions in this theory!

[@BarrackObamna]

He did, in the first few minutes. Or at least alluded to it by showing the shows clip of the children making the first

[@Krackonis]

Also, Hodor is a combination of the two "Summer Kings" we know in the stories... Bran and Robert. Robert was huge and not to bright. Bran is crippled and innocent. Hodor is huge and innocent. This is why Bran could ride Hodor and I am sure Bryden Rivers (Almost a Bran, almost a Summer King, but twisting and flowing) can use Brans kindness and Innocence against him, so he could take his body while he is in Hodor. Bran will have to therefore go in animals til he find Jon and can convince him that his brother Bran is not actually on the Throne.

[@danheucker1611]

Best content hands down

[@rodolfomisael]

This is your best video in my humble opinion so entertaining to watch

[@TrainAndAble]

This is seriously one of the better fan theories I've heard.

[@chrisolson719]

Brilliant analysis!

[@carolbriscoe9337]

The way Bran changed by his return to Winterfell, I assumed the Children had control of him. Their ultimate victory would be having Bran, their puppet, king of Westeros

[@lamebubblesflysohigh]

What would they do with him like that? Play politics, listen to tax records during council meetings? If they intention were sinister there have been far better candidates such as the Mad King, Cersei and many other before them who could have killed untold numbers of people without having to go through all that ordeal of traveling beyond the wall. I think the Night King is still their puppet and so will be Bran. He is either a spare body for the Night King or his replacement.

[@cblomber]

I always just thought the change was from having so much knowledge/information about the past. Learning as much as he did about his own family let alone the entire history of Westeros would change anyone. Not to mention having his sight awoken, etc. In the books Bran isn’t the only warg either so idk this theory is interesting, but idk if I buy into it entirely

[@ajelliott9923]

I've read the books a couple of times. I'm glad i glad i watched this. It made me want to reread them. Thanks.

[@TalkingThrones]

Go for it! Thanks 😊

[@robertoaguiar6230]

Great vid. I do think it's totally within the theme of the show to have bloodraven ward into bran while bran use the weirwood to warg into bloodraven. A not so dark twist would be for in this moment Bran discover bloodraven's evil secret plan but be able to escape, with the help of mera, and it might be blood raven that gets trapped inside hodor in the hold the door moment, while he is trying to run away from the NK in a different body. But only time will tell.

[@Crossbar_Pain]

Great theory!! I’ve always thought bloodraven had to have some bigger role in this story/show! I didn’t know how to put it into words like you did but I’m all in on this one🙌🏼 hopefully if we ever get the “SNOW” sequel maybe they use some lore from this!

[@kevinkelly8383]

I reckon they missed a big story with the children. This is a side of the story a lot of folk wanted to see more of. There's still hope yet to deep dive into this part of the story. Hope to god they do so 👌

[@TalkingThrones]

They really dropped the ball with the whole children, bloodraven, bran storyline. It sucks that so many people hate Bran in the show because his chapters are some of my favorite. He has an incredible story in the books.

[@kevinkelly8383]

@@TalkingThrones agreed 👌 I just hope someone of our imagination has the right ideas , we are missing so much stories from this world

[@ShawnHall]

Lets take a moment to appreciate Leaf.

[@thomasquigley8622]

Leaf is actually Old Nan using a glamor, waiting centuries at Winterfell for the Bran child. She only left to go back North of the Wall when she thought Bran was killed by Theon Greyjoy. Oh and Leaf/Old Nan is likely also a dragonrider.

[@jonathanpham7397]

the sacred "swirl" is the Fibonacci sequence. the 6 and the 9 twining. good vs evil, blue vs red.

[@gutz166]

Well, I do think that the Children of The forest had a non aggression pact with the White Walkers...but all of that ended, the moment Bloodraven was luring Bran to his domain, to take over his body. The Night King saw this as a threat to his existence because he knew that Bloodraven in Bran's body would eventually unite the lords of the south against him. As for serving the Great Other, I see both the Night King and Bloodraven(with the Children) as serving the same master and that their rivalry is compared to two servants feuding over the love and attention of their Master, the Great Other.

[@ryanlegg4261]

also season 3 episode 8 when sam kills the walker, before it shows up there’s like a noise of a hundred ravens outside and they go silent the moment it appears. like the ravens brought it there and it’s also just in underwear with no armor on and probably the only reason sam was able to stab it in the back.

[@MarcCastellsBallesta]

Great history! Very well explained. 👏🏻👏🏻

[@aaron6963]

I’d like a GoT prequel of the children of the forest and why they created the white walkers with it ending with the wall getting built. I haven’t read the books though I thought maybe the CotF created the white walkers to get people to leave Westeros and never come back after that the night king somehow gets killed by the CotF and for a long time Westeros happily belongs to the CotF again before this sort of thing happens all over again.

[@SeanChristieMallon]

This would be a much more satisfying ending than the dross we got served up in season 8

[@Yokar_mova1212]

Your channel keeps my love for ASOIF burning, have you thought about doing This for other book series as well? Such as king killer chronicles or stormlight archive?

[@TalkingThrones]

I've always wanted to!

[@Yokar_mova1212]

@@TalkingThrones That's amazing! You definitely should check out KKC (king killer chronicles) it has amazing material to analyse and form theories. I can imagine you nailing it down better than others!

[@kylebrown9622]

So with this same logic. Rickon will be the one who takes Bran down. Leaf said the dire wolfs will out last us all. Old Nan said the brother of the man who stopped him( the wording here was kinda strange) and besides Jon and Bran who still has a wolf? Rickon, who is away with the unicorns.....

[@isidroayala8415]

This is good great job

[@maxwibert]

This is a fun theory, but to me it lacks the moral complexity that Martin frequently espouses, and so somehow rings untrue. Martin has long said the books will have a bittersweet ending. Suppose Bran is an effective ruler who ultimately does a world of good for the realms of men , but that he has been effectively “consumed” by his ascension to the mantle of the three eyed raven, lost in the overwhelming volume of thousands of years of collective experience from the children and the weirwood net, as is heavily implied by the show. That is so deliciously bittersweet that it’s hard to argue against: the good guys essentially won by sacrificing a pure, innocent, brave child to dark ritual magics. Suppose also that Bloodraven knew Jojen would have to die to get Bran to the great heart tree, but did it anyways because he deemed it a worthy sacrifice of an otherwise inconsequential pawn. This is messed up, but make no mistake: Bloodraven pulled that kind of stuff ALL the time, even before he went north of the wall and became the three eyed raven. He made lots of morally abhorrent sacrifices to work towards what he saw as the greater good (e.g. executing unarmed prisoners to quash chances for the Blackfire rebellion to resurge, manipulating Egg into causing the Summerhall incident in order to bring dragons back into the world).

[@TheHairOfElendil]

9:42 Why does this character remind me of the White Walker child that was nailed to the tree in the opening scene of the first episode??

[@urimeshi1993]

They could/should have mad more episodes of bran learning and becoming blood raven and the children of the forest background. Amd another 2-3seasons to slow down seasons 6-8. So sad what it turned into. A rushed mess instead of the masterpiece it started off as. It atleast should have been 12 seasons

[@AmberS-V]

I think you're pretty spot on, given what evidence we *do* have of the lore surrounding the Children of the Forest and Blood Raven specifically. I think Bran was taken over by Blood Raven, who was basically forced to do so via the Children of the Forest, in an attempt to get their lands back via playing the Game of Thrones. Bran became King. They are now the ruling force (be it tiny in reality) now. I hope Bran isn't truly dead, and manages to resurface at some point; like he's trapped in his own mind and has to battle Blood Raven for control, just cause that would be really neat to see. The theories are really neat, but I think this one is def one of the more plausible ones :)

[@kevnerx]

I believe that "A Dream of Spring" alludes to them being the main danger in the last book, no longer hidden, rather than just looking toward the end of winter. The idea of Dark Bran, or whatever might control/use him, being crowned King of the seven kingdoms is a much bleaker proposition than in the show.

[@nickh7777]

Absolutely bleak as hell! I had the hardest time reading through all the weird Arya, Daenerys, and Bran chapter's, while they dealt with their own mystical experiences in strange places. I remember looking at his 'not a blog' page 20 years ago and it showed his 'strange moods' while he said he was writing. Too much Dagobah for THIS Jedi! Plus they were all long-winded and seemed like so much filler. I skipped many pages in some of those chapters bc I waited so long for a new book to come out and I knew I'd be waiting a long time for the next one. It's been like 15 years now!? None of that drivel was entertaining whatsoever! It's like he fell into a comatose state! It made me wonder why he's having such a hard time finishing the books, or if he's just on a Beach Boy Wilson trip to the moon. Whatever it is he's gone too deep and he writes it like a child (although I think he'd consider it playful?). Whatever it is he took too many lefts for me

[@M.L.official]

Is there a chance the night king is a good guy or not a bad guy and is just controlled by the children of the forest

[@Lfcsweden-n5m]

Think your spot on with this :)

[@RVS214]

I always thought it was Bran's destiny to fall...but I love the clues you put together and makes this way more interesting than the slip shod method D&D dealt with this very important point.

[@SaiDeLaRai]

6:10 A feast for crows seems like an even bigger reference now 16:50 also, nice catch

[@dumbitc11]

what always stuck out to me is how the bloodraven told bran that he cannot change the past and future and the people there cannot sense his presence, but we are repeatedly shown instances of that not being true.

[@NoviceDuelist]

hey i wanna know this if the 3 eyed raven can see the future,take over peoples mind couldnt he just take over any kings mind that ruled westeros ? Like robert ,even joffery if all he wamted was to be free nd become the king why choose bran instead?

[@quokka7555]

Its interesting in the last small council meeting bran or Bloodraven says after asking about drogon "perhaps i can find him" lol If bran is now bloodraven, then you have an all powerful targaryen tree wizard looking for maybe the last dragon in the world. Sounds pretty ominous...

[@greenMTN_boy]

So was Bloodraven inside Howland’s mind when he decided to attack Arthur Dayne from behind? It was an unusually unchivalrous move in a one on one battle between high-born warriors

[@neilmullins9093]

What surprises me is that old nan, knew a lot

[@Universalknowledge13]

As I had just finished the series ...again... For the 5th time in full. There was soooooooo much left unanswered and unfulfilled

[@gemini_moon9689]

This is an awesome explanation!!! 👏 The last sentence "it has to be a Stark that takes the Night King down" makes me question: Is this why it had to be Arya who took down the Night King? Not Dany and not Jon eighter because they werent full blooded Starks? (Dany wasnt obviously^^)

[@theblackheart5727]

I thought the lore said Night’s King was thought to be a Bolton. Or am I remembering it wrong?

[@grublet13]

Nan telling Bran not to trust crows stuck out to me in my last rewatch. I thought…there’s no way that would just be in there, it has to be foreshadowing, especially if she says it in the books, which I can’t remember. But then the crows/ravens then out to be “good guys” in the show and it never set right with me, that whole thing, especially with them just letting Jojen die.

[@barrybonds1161]

In the novels, the Children of the Forest are the Ravens. They didn't die off like was thought. A few of them survived, but most went into the crows

[@mehgancorker7242]

Honestly, even if this isn’t Martins plan for the books, I hope he changes his mind and uses it! This is way better than the ending we got from the show.

[@lunaskye621]

I honestly thought at one point Abram was the night king but he had used greensight to travel to the past and has taken over the mind of the night king so the one who set the whole plot of song of ice and fire was Bran. I love the idea of Bran the building being our Bran but alas, the show disappointed and I don’t know how Martin will finish his story. I do agree that Bran died in the caves or at least his mind is trapped somewhere. I believe the night king is the three eyes raven and took over Brand body. I don’t know exactly why it’s happened but I love this theory the most out of all the theories on ASOIAF. It just makes the most sense.

[@zarombiste9158]

It’s interesting that Melisandre think about weirwood trees and everything about the magic of the children of the forest as evil

[@kristijan8518]

This theory makes a lot of sense, it actually ties up very well to the azor ahai prophecy. If Jon (or Arya) have to kill Bran to destroy the three eyed raven and the others it basically ties up to the hero killing his loved one.

[@fastsociety2279]

really cool theory

[@theuglykwan]

Winterfell having corn is interesting.

[@sandragirlovan7570]

I understood only half of this but slay!!!

[@traviscue2099]

I think tricking Bran to make it all the way there just to aid the White Walkers would of been really interesting.. I know the books will have a real reason for them to come past the wall, and Bran is clearly a part of that key.

[@joso7228]

If the 3 Eyed Raven allowed the Children Of The Forest to be exterminated - why did the 3 Eyed Raven become Ruler of Westeros as Bran "I'm Not Really" Stark?

[@brgrkthmnn]

This is great, I wish this was canon, well there’s still hope it will be

[@anamariecameron7874]

we need to have a tv series about the children of the forest

[@marcusweathers3070]

None of these theories matter because GRRM will never finish the novels.

[@debbralehrman5957]

Well I can see that. We will have to see what George does.🤷🏼‍♀️👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@lanapearce9968]

In the books, there is evidence that the Children of the Forest are the malevolent force controlling the others. The Order of the Green Hand channel produced some amazing videos presenting this evidence. It is a very compelling theory.

[@pontusMalteryd]

very interesting and love your videos!

[@TalkingThrones]

Glad you like them!

[@StormLord-AOS]

I missed the season where bran was in the cave. i was slowly like "who tf is he" when i saw the last season. well now - circular nature of time, doomed to repeat our mistakes. very cool theory

[@StormLord-AOS]

also very fkn solid acting my the actor who played bran or i would completely missed it

[@kpj9535]

I always thought "Roger Daltrey is the Night King?"

[@CricFan008]

Bran is the Knight King....We hope the GOT has a sequel one day

[@eds1942]

Powerful Greenseers either have blood red or moss green eyes, Bran had Tully blue eyes.

[@kaceyteague5264]

WTH do ppl still believe in the ‘jojen paste’ theory??? Nowhere in the chapters of that book do they ever mention his disappearance or death just that he’s been somewhat depressed. It was Weir wood paste. However, I’ve always wondered the true intentions of the COTF and the different factions of them.

[@patrickscanlon963]

Excellent video and intriguing theory. My one point of contention is your assertion that the Children created the White Walkers. I'm aware that the show went that way but I don't believe there's sufficient evidence in the books to indicate that the origin of the Others will be the same. Too many stories link the Others with the Long Night. Even with the subpar historians of Westeros, there's no reason to believe the Long Night coincided with the invasion of the First Men or the Andals.

[@TalkingThrones]

You could be right, but there's a quote in The World of Ice and Fire that makes me believe they did

[@littlebabycarrotful]

I think the Jon having to kill Bran would be a better ending than Jon killing Dany. Jon hadnt known Dany that long before killing her in the show. Hadnt even seemed to spend much time with her. Bran, he's known his whole life. It'd be a better plot-line

[@shelbme2u]

In the current series House of the Dragon the female sear said it wouldn't matter it wouldn't change a thing. I think even though they can see it, they can't change it.

[@PapaEmeritus_4evr]

This would mean that Jon Snow is being influenced as well. Just think about everything Mormont's crow has been saying to Jon.

[@SarahPriceMoore]

How did ge get elected? Mormont’s crow shouted ‘SNOW!’

[@PapaEmeritus_4evr]

@@SarahPriceMoore Exactly!

[@Militza.85]

yeah, fully agree since I thought the same! Bravo!

[@Wolfen443]

Interesting idea, but without the books being finished for another go for the series with a better team they are only hopes for the fans.

[@kadimusbaratheon7352]

"Why do you think I came all this way?"

[@IshtheStomach]

Trying to tie show and Book together a bit (and having only read a few select chapters from the books) Could the act of Arya killing The Night King actually release him to also enter Bran? Like Being John Malchovich, all these different personalities living in Bran's head vying for control?

[@rolandkis9601]

I really love this video and theory. I hope when GRRM finishes the last book, we see history repeating itself. Jon has to kill Bran. It would be so cool.

[@jonathanpham7397]

blood raven sounds like an evi name for sure in this series. working for evil and always meant to help the blood queen danny. Danny was born through a blood ritual. human sacrifice. thats why she has glowing purple eyes. representing blue aka good on the outside, but she's really red underneath, aka evil. which gives you purple when combined. the 3rd eye raven was evil and using Bran. turning a stark against blue aka good side.

[@marymorgan7075]

4:44 “CORN! CORN! CORN!” 😂

[@briandain8432]

Sleeping with her brother, yeah, right... They weren't sleeping.

[@shawnwilt7196]

Just as a point of fact, a good number of characters have disappeared and believed dead and then turned alive. So, Jojin could still be alive. His fate has not been revealed as of yet. Also, Brenden Rivers has the one red eye now. Who else has a single red eye? Bran and The Crow's Eye are both agents of the great other. The difference is Bran doesn't know it yet.

[@hondamxracer24]

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