Lucy Letby: “This Evidence Says She Did Nothing Wrong” | Medical Experts ‘Did Not Find Any Murders’

Mark McDonald, the barrister leading Lucy Letby’s legal team, has said there is “a juggernaut of evidence that demolishes the evidence that was put before”.
It comes after a panel of international medical experts have concluded bad medical care and natural causes led to the deaths of the babies said to be harmed by Letby.
On Tuesday, the team of 14 neonatologists and paediatric specialists presented its “impartial evidence-based report” and said: “We did not find any murders.”
Letby, 35, from Hereford, is serving 15 whole-life orders after she was convicted at Manchester Crown Court of murdering seven infants and attempting to murder seven others, with two attempts on one of her victims, between June 2015 and June 2016.
Joining Talk’s Mike Graham, Mr McDonald says: "The experts that were called by the prosecution were nowhere near as credible as the experts that have come forward from across the world."
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[@DeusNyx]

If British justice can sentence someone for 'Mean tweets', what chance does someone innocent have?

[@MDM1992]

Absolutely none. People like me warned about this for decades.. but we were called names and told "I've never even had to go to court so you must be a wrongun!".. the conditioning is 80 years strong at this point.. generation after generation..

[@hiddensword9387]

More of a chance. Those tweets were breaking the law, wasn't a government decision on a whim it was a legal one. And it shows they are willing to hold people accountable. You just used a straw-man fallacy.

[@dianecameron137]

it does not apply to her then she did it

[@sh.4409]

She got told to write down her feelings in a diary and then they was used against her as evidence. What is that about.

[@TheMasterblaster32]

Correct 👌

[@eartheart3694]

I hope she takes them to the cleaners. This was to hide hospital negligence. They blamed an innocent woman to hide their own incompetence and bad practice

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

Dr Breary is the guy who administered the syringe that killed a baby by puncturing the liver, and yet he was the doctor complaining against her.

[@Mr-sn2ni]

What cleaners? The same who are refusing to pay the post office workers. You must be off your head of you think justice will be served

[@williamauld4083]

That is EXACTLY what this is about!!!

[@nicolacox4063]

She’s got to get out first

[@williamauld4083]

@nicolacox4063 if I was starmer, I'd get this innocent woman out NOW and earn much needed brownie points. Also Tommy Robinson. But that pathetic WEF ROBOT won't. There's a day of reckoning coming!!!

This should be reinvestigated, there is something VERY wrong here.

[@simplesimon5739]

You're obviously a village idiot. Are you best friends with David Lammy?

[@dianecameron137]

it is still being investigated they think she may have harmed more

[@Malayalikada]

Lots of money flowing in this case ,just to make us think she is innocent .She has been found guilty by the court that should end there .Just watch Dr G ,clinical psychologist from US Analysing her

[@24ct_G]

​@@dianecameron137 Diane, you really are thick !

[@palemale2501]

There are many parts of wrong doing to be investigated - and now you will see another 2 parts - how to get an appeal even started - and next how long to get someone after proved innocent freed

[@melly9037]

She was thrown under the bus because of hospital negligence.

[@DeneMonkey]

If that was the case she would be dismissed not charged with murder

Absolutely.

[@alanhudson-x4q]

💯 agree you said

[@popples50]

​@@DeneMonkey Not if she's the scapegoat for someone else or the hospital themselves because of their negligence. Imo It was a coverup and they had to pin it on somebody. Believe me, I know what practices hospitals can get up to.

[@richiefingers1]

Its not her negligence. Thats the point. ​@DeneMonkey

[@cameron1975williams]

All of her former colleagues should be sent to prison. They knowingly let her go to jail to cover their own failings. Lucy's experience in prison would've been, and I'm sure remains even more horrific than usual, given the nature of her alleged crimes. No amount of compensation can cover what they've taken from her. She should leave the country first chance she gets. This is a national disgrace and we should all feel ashamed. God bless MP David Davis, the panel of experts for helping Lucy at their own expense and her barrister. They have restored my faith in humanity and shown there is still hope for this Country. This should be the final nail in the coffin of the corrupt and criminally inefficient NHS.

[@Traceishere]

absolutely imo

[@Murph_82]

Just stop it you thick ignorance twat!

[@markwhite3958]

Totally agree!!!! FREE LUCY LETBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@calliemontparnasse820]

Agreed, she should leave the country, but I hope under some sort of "witness protection" name and identity change type plan, because I am sure there are plenty of trash humans out there who will jeopardize her safety. ALSO, I hope she sues for DAMAGES. For defamation etc. I wish her millions $$$, won in court against all those involved. That would be justice.

[@paulharris1502]

I could not agree more. Especially the last sentence.

[@leilahmanson]

The people responsible for framing an innocent person in order to hide their very own inncompetence should be imprisoned for life,away back at the begining when this story first broke i remember i left a teally nasty comment about Lucy without even looking right into their "evidence" iv owned this before but this is an rxample of how easy it is for someones name to ne blackened,its s shame and i really hope she gets justice!

[@colinatkinson8478]

Prosecution by media and incompetence

[@Malayalikada]

Not at all ,guilty on any day .Full manipulation going on.

[@dianecameron137]

she can rot in jail

[@popples50]

​@@Malayalikada I am not being manipulated, you don't speak for me ...

[@popples50]

​@@dianecameron137Even if she's innocent?

[@clarec7640]

@@dianecameron137 Evil Evil Evil comment. You can rot in hell.

[@CC-uq4hu]

This investigation should have been done right from the start…many times as a nurse I began a shift and found previous care had been poor ….this could have been a contributing factor. Lucy was not on shift 24/7

[@dianecameron137]

if on a ward there is unexpected deaths and equipment being removed not not been put in but removed breathing equipment to babies then you would not think thats strange thats what happened if I was on shift and knew that the equipment was there the equipment vital and always been used on that patient and suddenly removed that not bad work thats wrong and needs investigating which is what they were doing they were watching her because of strange things happening on the ward if thats not ok that they watched her then god help us she was caught they put her there at the unexpected deaths the equipment being removed I worked in care and even I know there is a level of expected deaths they had a high number of deaths nurses kill they are not going to do it in front of other staff

[@AnnHoyle-h1f]

@cc. Yes , I know what you mean. We are all different with different standards, you realise how efficient you are but the previous nurse on your shift might not have had the same organised character as you, which means things could fail…….this though is about everybody in every job…we are all different, we’re human, some better at the job than others…nobody knows what truly went on regarding Lucy and staffing…

[@ALee-p3x]

Totally agree

[@joannemartin44]

There were only 2 nurses with the qualifications to be on shift in tht unit.

[@PeterMartin-zx7ls]

Lucy should sue the police and hospital

[@Traceishere]

Agree

[@frankbrodie5168]

There are systems in place that she would (will) be automatically referred to arbitration regarding compensation for wrongful imprisonment. I'll give you ONE guess at the Government and Prime Minister in question who introduced that particular body? (not that it is by definition a bad thing of course.)

[@catherinehall7217]

Hush. Don't talk like that until after she is released or they will keep her under wraps for decades

[@peterjohnston4472]

Millions!!

[@Toecutter875]

What about all the notes they found in her hand writing saying "i killed those babies I'm evil?"

[@susangarbutt7189]

She was a scapegoat for the negligence of the hospital. Can you imagine the mental torture she has been put through and I believe no one will be held accountable for her wrongful conviction. The parents of these babies have every right to be angry.

[@ruthhadfield9726]

then why was there so much evidence against her then?

[@Anonymous-fc2fk]

Greatest miscarriage of justice

[@dianecameron137]

where is your proof of that

[@michaelnewbury2856]

@@dianecameron137 How about you listen to the press conference?

[@Malayalikada]

No .Everyone who says she is innocent should watch Dr G ,a clinical psychologist from the US .Everyone is being manipulated here.Parents are rich ,trying their best to get her out .

[@PadreAlan67]

@@Malayalikada So you will listen to a clinical psychologist who has never interviewed her and believe them over the 14 international TOP neonatal care experts who have actually examined the evidence and concluded there is no crime..... Idiot.

[@michaelnewbury2856]

@ Codswallop

[@Jacky5299]

Our wonderful NHS is not so wonderful as we're told.

[@user-rf9me7xm1w]

It was fine before it became the International Health Service.

[@DelTangBrav]

My recent experiences make me think that it isn't those on the "shop floor" Doctors and nurses etc. Responsible for the short comings. But the administration.

[@swhite5840]

It's like a Soviet organisation and accordingly we must praise it no matter how grotesque and numerous its failures.

[@rubyredall2145]

This will certainly put off new nurses. I bet there aren t many neonatal nurses coming on board. They are all going to be afraid of accusations of murder when a baby/patient dies.

[@ck3837]

Because of cheap low iq nigerian imports

[@ljinuk81]

That poor woman was framed, she was set up by those in the hospital who did a bad job they needed to blame someone. I always had my doubts that she was guilty.

To cover up for incompetent hospitals and worthless management.

[@dianecameron137]

SHE WAS NOTB FRAMED SHE WAS WATCHED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AFTER UNEXPLAINED DEATHS SHE WAS WITH THE CHILDREN WHEN THEY WERE HARMED KILLED

[@thedanieljamesjeff]

​@@dianecameron137YOU PRESSED CAPS LOCK YOU UNHINGED DOPE

[@MsStack42]

@@dianecameron137 Is that because she was a nurse, doing nursing ?

[@debramckay4611]

​@@dianecameron137You need to listen to the defense evidence. She wasn't present at every death. She was also doing double shifts. This is the whole problem, people like you not being able to look at the wider picture.

[@davidfisher2359]

What British justice? It's not just the nurse they ruined but also betrayed the parents. This needs to prompt a huge review.

[@KS-yv7tw]

I listened to Mark McDonald on this channel straight after the trial. My knee jerk reaction was, how could he be so insensitive and say she is innocent . But it immediately made me want to check out what the evidence of her guilt was. I found nothing after a week of searching so went back to his interview and left my first comment ever. I agreed with him. Mine was a lone voice among hundreds of ‘burn the witch’ comments. It was so slow to begin, but the momentum has gathered so much speed now. What a turn around!

[@DanCaute]

Same for me. This very channel. It's been a crazy seven months. Could barely sleep for eight weeks. We are a large group now but I wish someone would organise a big demo then we could meet.

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

No chance or righting wrongs if we still had Capital Punishment

[@popitastic]

Britain is truly broken

[@matthewrockett9637]

Heading very much that way yes.

[@rolandhawken6628]

In every sense of the word they have spent millions persecuting a young nure at the same time shut their eyes to rape and murder of young girls by Pakastani rape gangs The police are simply cowards

[@robd733]

probably the immigrants and transgenders fault eh?

[@connorwood8527]

Mark McDonald you are a extraordinary human being

[@pgaprofessionaluncertified3637]

Read his bio, he really is a great man, came from nothing, and educated himself whilst working numerous jobs. He definitely remembers where he came from, and is quick to defend the oppressed and persecuted .

[@SharonShazzzaaaTaylor]

I never felt comfortable with the way this woman was treated, she deserves a Re trial and the prosecution need to answer questions as to what evidence was presented at the trial. I feel for the families of the children that died but I'd hope they wouldn't want an innocent woman to die in jail if the evidence shows it was a miscarriage of justice 😢

[@dianecameron137]

some of the parents have already said they are with what evidence was given and they feel a fair trial and out come they got justice

[@Malayalikada]

​@@dianecameron137 I agree with you .

[@janicevango5791]

The authorities probably just wanted someone to stitch up, hold accountable and put forward as a scapegoat so the real reason can be swept under the carpet. For some sinister reason Lucy just happened to fit the bill. It has been stated that Lucy wasn’t even on shift when 3 of the babies died.

[@dorisberlin4972]

It's right, the defence team had more power than he is letting on, however, he is also correct to suggest that this means nothing now, but we must concentrate on freeing Lucy❤

[@ZZ09M4G18-ti8pg]

I can't imagine how it must have felt to know you are innocent and being thrown into prison and experiencing so much hatred. Poor girl must be completely traumatised.

[@dianecameron137]

she isnt so she wont have to think of it

[@NickDardanelles]

Think about the babies she killed instead

[@nickdandel5314]

@Gunnarhappystick there is no evidence of murders. Perhaps you missed what Dr Lee said and the panel of experts.

[@ZZ09M4G18-ti8pg]

She's innocent. Read the articles they're everywhere.

[@NickDardanelles]

@ ooooh ignore the court trials - read the articles

[@soniahopkins6809]

The story isn't that strange,she was a scapegoat and that's it!

[@annstorey6573]

If proven innocence, and it certainly looks like it, Lucy Letby, should be released and sue the hospital and police.

[@robertreid9079]

Not sure the Police are responsible for her incarceration.

[@jaqs2190]

Cps is.

[@robertreid9079]

@@jaqs2190 but not the police.👍

[@robertreid9079]

@@jaqs2190 surely the CPS believed that there were reasonable grounds to bring the case in front of the courts but are not responsible for her incarceration?

[@jonathanlewis453]

The standard of proof on her conviction was ‘beyond reasonable doubt’. Establishing reasonable doubt may be enough to show the convictions unsafe but she may walk, even if it is more likely than not ( a lesser standard of proof) that she did commit murder. I do not foresee LL being proven innocent on these disclosures. I see that it is better to allow a guilty person improperly convicted to walk away than it is to incarcerate an innocent one.

[@LyndaRaine]

Poor girl if she is inecent

[@pippipster6767]

If.

[@SmartDumbNerdyCool]

Note: Barrister's theory and the gullibility of the public hence why she committed the crime

[@easygeezeenlightenment]

The Birmingham six , The Guildford 4. Carl Beech. This happens more often than you'd think

[@vordman]

Has anyone claimed Carl Beech was falsely imprisoned. I think it's well-established the man was a total fantasist.

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

Poor Stefan Kiszco. Such a sad case.

[@ThePorkypete51]

​@@judithmorganjudyteen was just about to mention Stefan Kiszco

[@sen5908]

This is happening every day believe me, what is it 12 people or so decide people's fates, I can see an A. I jury in the future you wait and see

[@andys441]

Interesting point, Carl Beech. I thought it was only one who is certain he was stitched up to keep anyone silent from exposing the establishment

[@475609]

“If Lucy did not commit these crimes despite her convictions, then keeping her in prison does not serve justice. If she is innocent, she should not remain incarcerated. Furthermore, beyond the years taken from her life, the impact on her career must also be considered, as it has been irreparably damaged.”

[@ruthhadfield9726]

her career, no one is going to want her anywhere near their babies. me included

[@RaoulDuke333]

Who trusts anything about this country anymore ?

[@kevind6956]

The NHS staff knew she was innocent. This was a cover up by hospital managers for the poor care provided.

[@williamauld4083]

FACT!

[@joannemartin44]

I believe the nursing staff were behind her

[@ericaswainson1405]

Managers from hospital and mental health managers are disgraceful so it don't surprise me.

[@DawnFowle]

Blame the media too

[@nickdandel5314]

Yes! They are complicit! Not all of them.

[@DanCaute]

Yes the worst offender is the BBC.

[@lulabellegnostic8402]

Poor medical care is the motto of the NHS. And the worst thing is no one cares.

[@dianecameron137]

why did she remove a babies breathing tube

[@scouseofhorror104]

@@dianecameron137 OOooh you're in ALL the comments aren't you diane 🧐

[@dianecameron137]

I dont like baby killers much@@scouseofhorror104

[@dianecameron137]

as is my democratic right @@scouseofhorror104

[@aaronbodimeade9685]

If she’s not guilty, that’s a terrible miscarriage of justice!!!

[@denise4487]

I doubted her guilt just listening to the whole ten days of her been cross examined the evidence just wasnt there! THIS CONFIRMED IT!

[@SmartDumbNerdyCool]

Any woman is not guilty to you but... admit it

[@JamesR5]

Uk Government get your cheque book out, Lucy is going to be taking you to the cleaners ££££ lol 😂

[@DeneMonkey]

Its experts opinions nothing compared to the long list of evidences against Lucy

[@simplesimon5739]

​@@DeneMonkeyIt's a pity we don't have care in the community anymore.

[@dianecameron137]

lovely to know we have so many that think its ok to kill children that you should be looking after

[@connorwood8527]

Listen to the crème de la crème

[@lks6248]

Ohh, not another person who thinks the government has a magic bank account …….

[@user-sn8kv6vc5i]

IF SHE'S INNOCENT... CLEAR HER NAME PUBLICLY.. GIVE HER MILLIONS ... HONOUR HER AS A NURSE ...

[@STEVEBINNION1]

Why would the NHS be at fault , we all know how perfect it is 😂

[@sillypuppy5940]

It is a house of cards held up by self interest.

[@susansaxon4780]

😂😂😂😂😂😂 lve been a nurse for over 35 yrs , and l think all NHS Trusts need to be shaken up poor management sacked and new experienced managers employed who know the NHS who have experienced working on the shop floor so to,speak, they know what and doesn’t and won’t work.

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

@@susansaxon4780we need a private system. This wouldn’t have happened under a private company as the commercial interest to understand the problem would be huge, plus they would have no compunction sacking staff. The nhs is a closed shop which hugely protects itself. If you’ve ever sued them like I have, you’ll know how bad they all are in protecting one another. It’s the same as any other public body. We see cover ups and doctors protecting one another with impunity time and time again. It has to stop and we need to be the client, not the state - we need an insurance based system with subsidies for those who can’t pay and keeping some aspects in the public sphere - eg ambulances. This is how pretty much every health system around the world works. When you or I can choose the care - that’s how it gets more efficient and quality of care improves.

[@denisehill7769]

@@susansaxon4780 Yes, in spades. Whenever I hear the Govt of any flavour stating they're giving the NHS another billion pound bung I just think, "I know where that's going, more layers of management, more nonsensical diversity campaigns, still no basic supplies when you need them" (ex CSW here)

[@paulharris1502]

The NHS is well past its sell-by date.

[@FrederikPedersen-gq6nh]

Always said she is a scapegoat for the incompetence of the hospital remember the cot death tragedies and this poor women imprisoned on flawed evidence? This is the hospital trying yo cover up its negligence

[@williamauld4083]

So true!

[@paulcrombie9623]

They needed a scapegoat, and she unfortunately was the victim.

[@Jonnyshoot192]

SO IT SOUND LIKE SHE WAS A SCAPEGOAT FOR HOSPITAL ERRORS. SHE IF INNOCENT, SHOULD DEMAND PRISON FOR ALL WHO SENT HER TO PRISON.

[@BrendanCarey84]

So it was just bad luck that she is the only person to have contact with every single deceased child? Grow up.

[@nickdandel5314]

There should be serious legal consequences against all those who were involved in this case if LL is exonerated. And there are many involved as it seems.

[@RockHunter-v7j]

Usual hysterical nonsense from the “Innocence project”

[@Frankboothknowsyou]

They’re clearly spamming all the channels with Letby nonsense

[@Frankboothknowsyou]

@@nickdandel5314 must bans happen because you lobby for bans when people contradict you, you have a tantrum and ask the channel to ban them. You even briefly did it to a channel claiming harassment - it lasted half a day before your bogus claims were properly checked

[@angeladallimore8079]

Everything thats done in the dark WILL COME TO LIGHT JUSTICE ⚖️ WILL BE SERVED

[@Derloopkat]

Can you guys rebut all previous evidence and claims? By October 2024, media mentioned whenever Lucy was around, death rate of babies multiplied by 30 (The Guardian, The Telegraph, etc). Also I remember an account. When a doctor asked for more nurses to work in weekend, he was told Lucy was available. The doc refused by arguing every time she's around babies di3.

[@Toecutter875]

Finally someone in the comments with some common sense, 16 babies died in her care in 2 years, most nurses get only a handful in their whole carrier

[@DepakoteMeister]

Babies died when she wasn't around, the statistics lied. The doctors accused Lucy after she had complained about them.

[@andys441]

There's always 1. Do you think these experts don't know what the truth is. Seems you want your 2 minutes of fame

[@DepakoteMeister]

@@Derloopkat Most nurses don't work on a seriously ill neonate unit. Nurses who work on seriously neonats units, or in end of life wards (just examples) are likely to see a far greater number of deaths than a nurse on other wards. The media, as is so often the case, were not interested in the truth. Just like with Madeleine McCann's death (also involving doctors...coincidence?).

[@SpacedOdyssey]

Beyond a reason of a Doubt. There IS Doubt, So her convictions are UNSAFE. She should be released on Bail Immediately

[@richardtaylor4598]

Why would a team of worldwide medical experts come here at their own cost to make these claims, unless they seriously believed that this is a mis-carriage of justice. I know it must be hell for the families but these opinions can't just be ignored if someone is serving life sentences for crimes they didn't commit.

[@NickDardanelles]

Because it will massively raise their profile and open doors to lucrative opportunities. Look at Richard Gill the statistician from the de Berk case, he went onto win another case then lost one and said the court was biased, now he’s on the Letby case which doesn’t have any statistics .. it’s just a good grift

[@leecooper3852]

Fancy not allowing the British public to hear an alternative side to the story.And the media being complicit

[@DavidISHERWOOD-iu1xn]

Where is the EVIDENCE OF ANY MURDERS?⁰

[@andybagleylp]

Ill be honest I though she must of been guilty but now I'm almost convinced that she is innocent. There is clearly very strong evidence to prove it.

[@richiefingers1]

The second they bannd the newyorker article in the UK i was sure she was innocent. After i read it, if 10% of the article was true, she should be teleased now!

[@peterbolton6193]

My opinion of Mark McDonald keeps getting higher and higher. The way he dealt with that question about whether the original defence team was at fault was class, grace and professionalism at its finest. A true gentleman and professional.

[@Frankboothknowsyou]

That’s because of it goes to court again Myers is lead barrister again. McDonald is a street level barrister, good for rousing a mob, he’s not a top class KC

[@crustyzimmerman3324]

‘Bad medical care’ - was the hospital looking for a scapegoat?

[@davesmith4804]

British justice system in this country is utter disgusting, locking a poor young woman up for life, makes me feel sick

[@jettser17UK]

You supporting a murderer is what's sick! Get real! 🤦‍♂️😏

[@missABR1]

Can we all just remember that she did write a note which said "I Killed those babies", she stalked the parents online on would be birthdays and Christmases of the babies and had medical records at home. She was on shift for all the deaths of the babies and numerous staff had raised concerns about her. I can understand that there might be other possible explanations for the deaths, as in, looked at individually they could have occurred naturally, however the evidence outline above is significant and should not be overlooked...

[@nicolacox4063]

No it’s not, if the evidence doesn’t support it. No matter what she said or did. Watch the inquiry, they talk about each baby, giving details of their illness, what happened and their findings. Then make your mind up. If you still feel the same, then you must know more than the panel.

[@dianecameron137]

if they are not on the ward how do they know her behaviour on the ward@@nicolacox4063

[@aspman8965]

So what about the babies that died when she wasnt on shift? Why was it hidden that doctors were also on shift at the times that Lucy is accused for, why was this not told to the jury? It was this basis that made up the case, she was the only one, but that was NOT true.

[@rackynjeff]

It’s possible she felt she had “killed them” because just feeling she hadn’t been able to save them

[@christinaali6296]

I totally agree with you. The thing we should be concentrating on is how did these babies now. But no one mentions that do they?

[@nickphilpott6697]

Get her out ffs!!

[@24321619]

People have been locked up for life on the strength of Circumstantial evidence alone for just one murder committed 20 years ago. The lady in the Lake case.

[@dianecameron137]

she was not going to do this in front of people was she

[@ludwigamadeuswagner1933]

Luke Mitchell being another, purely circumstantial.

[@ASDwnt]

This has indeed ruined Letby's entire life so we can only hope that ths structures responsible for doing so are brought to account and the figures involved are JAILED for years.

[@amybaccellini5438]

yes including the trial judge and CPS as they bloody new she was incocent

[@Indecisive7337]

They said that she looked like she was a killer so she must have been… Shame on her colleagues! This needs another Trial if only so the real culprits can be identified.

[@GiuseppeDimarco-qm6bw]

The amount of innocent there must be in british jails 😢

[@PaulC_9721]

NHS masters at scapegoating

[@Ben-x8l1s]

She needs to be let out it’s clear what’s happened hospital treatment not being up to standard and she’s been made the scapegoat anyone with a braincell now knows she hasn’t done it

[@Toecutter875]

Most midwives have half a dozen infant deaths in a carrier, she had 17 in two years. Use your common sense mate.

[@Ben-x8l1s]

@ mate top neonatal drs from across the world have proved these babies had poor medical care and they wasn’t murdered from looking at there medical records

[@hazzard8760]

Everyone knows that the defence team failed miserably in supporting Lucy at the trial. It was a travesty of professional misconduct in itself, but I also understand it is difficult for Mark McDonald to be seen criticising his peers. That would undermine the legal establishment somewhat and divert attention away from the subject at hand. After the final outcome is known at some point in the future maybe judgement could be reserved at the standard of the original defence team but for now it would do nothing to further Lucy's case. Mark McDonald should be complimented at his efforts to date as I think the confidence in his abilities to take this forward is growing.

[@pixie706]

How many other prisoners are innocent ?

[@paulharris1502]

At least 10%.

[@dianecameron137]

ACCORDING TO PRISONERS MOST ARE

[@pippipster6767]

A very few.

[@peterbryant6156]

It is very difficult to disagree with a panel of experts like this.

[@x-Xx7xX-x]

What about the panel of experts involved when she was found guilty...

[@kenn1936]

RELEASE HER NOW!!! Sort out all the crap later.... she does not deserve to be in prison while there is so much doubt on her conviction!!!!!!

[@Jsarson1976]

The way her writing was taken in to evidence when it was her thoughts after having multiple counselling sessions and she was told to write stuff down, god if your accused she possible thought she did something wrong , wow shocking how many more people have been blamed and in prison when they didn’t do it.

[@MelDo-f2n]

Why did all the babies die on her watch? Coincidence? Coincidence doesn’t happen so many times in particular coincidence of baby deaths.

[@MotherHen2012]

They didn't, Baby C for example died when she wasn't there.

[@DepakoteMeister]

They didn't.

[@justiceandlifeinlondon2888]

Judge Goss facilitated this injustice, that’s why her defence was not allowed to defend Lucy

[@wendyjones363]

She must be released immediately!

[@Traceishere]

TODAY!

[@alanhudson-x4q]

agree you said she must be released immediately

[@alanhudson-x4q]

​@@Traceishere agree today

[@gloriabutcher9709]

LUCY HAS SUFFERED SO MUCH ALREADY BEING BLAMED FOR THE DEATH OF SO MANY BEAUTUFUL BABIES. SHE HAS BEEN FOUND INNOCENT BY THE TOP MEDICAL PROFESSIONS IN THE WORLD. GET HER OUT NOW!!!!❤❤

[@dianecameron137]

SO THE POLICE THE PARENTS THE ONES THAT WATCHED HER SHOULD ALL BE CALLED LIARS THEN THE CORONERS THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY DEALT WITH IT@@gloriabutcher9709

[@1956HBS]

I’d have thought a retrial would be very problematic, given all the publicity, just set her free.

[@markwhite3958]

Dr Lee was very thorough and explained very complicated medical issues in an easy to understand way. Personally I think we need to not get too excited at this stage although yesterday was a massive move forward for Lucy and her bid for fairness and freedom. The champagne is on ice but I will only break the bottle when Lucy is free. Please god that day comes soon. Once Lucy is free the focus then needs to fall on the consultants and Evans. I feel they won't cave in easily as they have too much to lose- however their evil must be disclosed and justice be done!!! FREE LUCY LETBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@patriciac8488]

This nurse will be given a pardon and a big apology hopefully ❤

[@Toecutter875]

How did the 16 babies just drop dead?

[@Linz86]

@@Toecutter875 They didnt just drop dead. Did you even listen to the expert? He stated some were premature, very ill and the doctors were negligent. He said the care in the hospital was horrendous and if the hospital was in Canada it would have been shutdown.

[@Toecutter875]

They went from two a year to two a week, and when she left they suddenly stopped dying. Why are you defending a baby killer, it's so strange 😐

[@paulcrombie9623]

I knew Lucy was innocent, but dare I say it at the time the law is an ass in the UK.😢.

[@John-p7i5g]

Lucy Letby owed massive compensation for this obvious massive miscarriage of justice, as a victim of bullying on an industrial scale.

[@Toecutter875]

Come off it mate, she's as guilty as sin

[@John-p7i5g]

@@Toecutter875 Based on what evidence?

[@Toecutter875]

​@@John-p7i5gon that unit before she come they woukd have 2-3 deaths a year, she had 3 deaths in a week, its common sense. She had a long history of this.

[@mcvicarross7]

​@@Toecutter875m8 I'm telling you al bet once this has all been properly investigated & straightened out it'll show that none of the babies were deliberately harmed in any way! Malpractice possibly but it appears that they have took Lucy's name & instead of investigating in a totally unbiased fashion they've jumped the gun & tried to mould a case to fit their narrative, the Police weren't helped by the fact that the Doctors whom Lucy already had made complaints about & had a grievance against them were against Lucy from the start as they'd felt that she'd undermined their authority so they were no help towards Lucy at all! Even some of Lucy's colleagues believe she's innocent & they worked with her.

[@GClarkeG60]

@@Toecutter875have you watched the 2hr long press conference?

[@bravo2zero796]

Good job we dont have the death penalty 🙄

[@seangreenwood8331]

there is something very worrying about this case,she seems to have been convicted on the evidence of her former colleages,talk about being thrown under a bus..., guilty or innocent,her life is over anyway

[@dianecameron137]

so who else can give evidence they are the ones on the ward the ones that knew the children the parents her saw her behaviour what was happening around them of course it would be them so if I DID SOMETHING AT WORK YOU DONT QUESTION MY WORK MATES

[@Linz86]

@@dianecameron137 Correct. There were also collegues who wanted to testify in her defence but were discouraged to do so.

[@Countryboy071]

Evidence or not, she's guilty

[@danielrayner7681]

I think it is definitely possible she could be innocent, anyone who looks at the evidence objectively would draw the same conclusion

[@dianecameron137]

so who removed the breathing equipment then she was standing watching a baby not be able to breath doing nothing to help the child the equipment had been removed whats ok with that a caring nurse just standing there watching if you all think thats ok we really have a very sick sick world

[@danielrayner7681]

@@dianecameron137 I said it is possible she could be innocent not that she definitely is. I personally think a lot of people just don't want to admit they could be wrong about Lucy Letby

[@paula7084]

@@dianecameron137 You are one sad troll . Please get help .

[@mikehall6608]

@@dianecameron137 Of course that situation is not OK, but the question is why did the situation occur? Was it murder/ attempted murder? Or was it simply an accident - an accident with a plethora of possible contributing causes - I'll give a few possibilities: - The premature babies are tiny, she may have just not seen that the tube had become dislodged. - She may have knocked the tube out accidentally whilst doing some other procedure - this example wouldn't be the first of its kind, nor the last. - Overworked staff, unable to properly focus. - Or she trained for many years, to do a badly paid, underappreciated job, which she did for many years before these incidents happened, just to become a murderer. Anyway, it's not up to any of us on here to make a judgement. As it stands, she is guilty... I have read a load of articles as to why this might be a miscarriage of justice, so at the moment, from the information available to me, my instinct is telling me she is innocent. Let's see what the courts say. I find it very hard to believe that so many actual experts would put their reputations on the line for this woman if they had any doubts about her innocence. The original "expert" witness, was not really an "expert" in the same way as these new experts coming forward. He is a long retired pediatrician, who has been working as an "expert" medical witness in medical trials for many years, and has boasted before the trial that "I have never lost a trial". That statement alone should send alarm bells ringing - because when it is the truth that is sought, the amount of trials he has won is irrelevant. He just sounds a little egotistical to me - not helpful.

[@watnamecaniuseforfs]

​@@dianecameron137 Listen to the full press conference.

[@manoo422]

NEW evidence should be ANYTHING that wasnt presented at the original trial!!

[@desfinnegan7086]

This poor girl has been thrown in jail and no crime has taken place , British justice God above

[@CrueLoaf]

How do you explain this then? “More than 250 nursing handover sheets, a blood test result and resuscitation notes relating to some of the babies who collapsed or died were discovered when officers searched her house, in the Blacon suburb of Chester, following her arrest. A photograph of a condolence card Letby sent to the parents of a baby girl on the day of her funeral after she murdered her, in October 2015, was also found on her mobile phone, almost three years after the child's death.”

[@amybaccellini5438]

planted wake up the hospital killed them babies poor hygiene so she was the scapegoat

[@CrueLoaf]

@ you haven’t answered my question.

[@nicksealey7004]

Immediate release,,,

[@13thnotehifireviews7]

At least move her to an open type prison with conditions pending setting a retrial. So she can be with her friends and family.

[@cupofteawithpoetry]

Just the fact the prosecution used Dr Shoo Lee's paper without telling him says a lot in itself. The problem was, they would never have dreamt the reach this case would eventually get worldwide!

[@leegreenhough8268]

He is wrong that there was no maleficence. That started when the prosecutions witness walked into a police station to provide testimony, and then how the Hospital staff supported the investigation to cover up incompetence at the expense of Lucys liberty and reputation. Also I find it unfair how the news Focus on the fact that she had already had her day in court, in a way like she deserves to be in prison due to legal technicalities, even if she is Innocent, or even more sinisterly the argument; 'think about the victims. you are prolonging their agony'. Firstly there may not be any murder victims, moreover, what are we suggesting that we lynch people just to appease apparent victims at the expense of the truth, even if the truth is upsetting to hear? horrible for the families and Lucy and I hope the CPS, hospital staff and police are held accountable.

[@watnamecaniuseforfs]

Alison Timmis did write a letter to Tony Chambers in December 2015 saying babies will die if the chaos in the unit continued.

[@dianecameron137]

she has had an appeal the evidence stands

[@leegreenhough8268]

@dianecameron137 Flat earthers were the same, even when faced with objective overwhelming evidence. Which particular bit of evidence stands exactly? You must have seen yesterday.

[@Hrld-25]

​@@leegreenhough8268 Where have they obtained this "new' evidence?

[@dianecameron137]

I will go with the ones actually there and involved that saw her behaviour@@leegreenhough8268

[@Isisbridge]

I hope she doesn't get away with it.

[@asia662010]

Lucy looks so defeated in her photo, or is it just my imagination?

[@DeneMonkey]

Many criminals look like that

You’d look defeated if you were dragged away to jail.

[@Ette397]

I agree. This poor woman has been victimized and had no one brave enough openly to stand by her . Systemic bullying.

[@CC-uq4hu]

She looked defeated right from the start. In my opinion a gentle woman scapegoat 😢

[@dianecameron137]

she got caught thats why

[@paulclements6277]

She is innocent I think…the hospital don’t want to take the blame for running a crap unit

[@alisonandguywildlifephotograph]

Ffs.. babies have died…someone is accountable…I have seen firsthand negligence in hospitals 😡..

[@jasonbrown9979]

Set her free.....

[@paulkarch3318]

The phrase was used "they didn't prove her innocence" in England do you have to prove your innocence? Don't the prosecutors have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt guilt of the accused?

[@judithmorganjudyteen]

It's reasonable doubt

[@robertrankin-lv6iv]

A year to get this young girl justice.Our system is dead.

[@rexp1727]

I think her letters she wrote was her trying to process the accusations that the staff were clearly trying to throw on her. As she knew what was going on, I believe she is innocent

[@dianecameron137]

ok why dont you go do the full investigation if you know if I did not do anything why put I am evil I would not be putting that

[@annereidy7981]

​@@dianecameron137some people actually internalise accusations as fact. They have no mental resistance, and she's one of them, also a very handy scapegoat. Considering she reported her accuser fir bullying, before, of course, he reported her to police.

[@Linz86]

@@dianecameron137 Geez, calm down woman! This person is giving their opinion on a KZbin video. You are commenting under everyones comments with the same crap. You cant even string a proper sentence together but think you know it all.

[@jbug884]

But what about the note!? “I am evil, I did this” 🤔

[@JulieannLewis-r6l]

Perhaps she or her family were being threatened,🤔🤨😯

[@Ette397]

Thank goodness for the seekers of truth. Society cannot be based on lies. This is a basic Christian value and a very important one which we must not lose sight of.

[@garycannon2887]

Is it safe to assume they are ignoring all of the evidence surrounding each attack when they isolate the medical evidence?

[@Longi1974]

How do you build a case using surrounding evidence when the fundamentals are in doubt? If each one of these babies did not die or suffer harm due to the method and medical outcome alleged in the prosecution's case, then they were not murdered nor attacked. It is as simple as that, isn't it?

[@dorjon6121]

Have always had serious doubts about all of her convictions. For a start, that no actual cause of death was found in ANY of the cases! This could well be the ultimate miscarriage of justice. What I have never understood is why her original defence team was QUITE SO HOPELESS !

[@ALMELMUSIC]

If there is doubt with professionals then there shouldn't be a problem having a retrial... if the prosecution are so positive she killed the babies

[@vordman]

What the hell has happened to this country. It's deeply worrying when the authorities can no longer be trusted. There was a time when honour was everything in our public bodies, not anymore.

[@kathyriley1633]

In Canada we had a case in the 80s. Susan Nelles , who was wrongfully accused of poisoning infants with Digoxin. Her life was ruined. Needs to be revisited!

[@dianecameron137]

and there are nurses who have killed as well so what

[@Lozzman7575]

This going to make a complete mockery of the uk court system

[@3chords490]

6:30 Why is it not of interest to the justice system that Lucy didn't have medical experts to defend her? It's key to the whole case. My hunch is that her defence lawyer didn't really believe she was innocent in the first place , or got caught up in his own ego? How the hell did he think he was going to have a chance of winning without lining up some counter experts in front of the jury? Very strange. Did he phone anyone up? Did experts refuse to testify? If so , why? Was the defence part of the process that set Lucy up for prison? Did Lucy sabotage her own case because she felt prison was safer than the outside , or because she was psychologically unstable and depressed? So many questions that must be answered , and if they are not , how is the public supposed to have faith in the justice system? Is this another Post Office scandal?

[@Frankboothknowsyou]

Expert witnesses answer to the court not either side. Don’t defence expert under cross examination would not be able to deny that Letby could have done it and that would help the prosecution so her KC avoided that trap

[@lenkapenka6976]

Investigate those that put her put away - trashed reputations is not enough

[@stevebarker9133]

What are the average deaths since Lucy was not there?

[@Compo1976]

Prob less