“Get MORE MONEY Out Of The Motorist” | Policy Exchange Suggests Variable Road Pricing

[@simongreen2510]

Scrap all expenses for politicians and see how long it takes, before they realise what everyone else is paying.

[@r016976]

Build a new efficient houses of parliament in the Midlands which has accommodation for MPs (where land and property are cheap). There would be no need for expenses, long term this would be much cheaper. Especially if you sold the existing building as a hotel/ housing.

[@garyoneill545]

The Question you should be asking,Is where has all the Road Tax gone.Because it's certainly not been spent on on road repairs.A country full of Scammers and Chancers.

[@michaeljohnson-li5nn]

Vehicle excise duty (or road tax to us oldies) is not ring-fenced to be spent solely on the nation’s road infrastructure. It’s simply placed into the general taxation pot to be spend on foreign aid, fake asylum seekers, MP’s expenses… the list goes on.

[@garyh1572]

Road Tax, like every other tax, just goes into a big pot . It isn't held specifically for the roads.

[@matthewwiddows6319]

they hate the car but love the revenue!!

[@doulostheou777]

Fuel duty is already a 'pay per mile' tax. The more you drive, the more you pay. Why is the government trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist? Why not have regional fuel duty charged at the pump. If you live in rural areas you pay less, but if you live within a larger city you pay more.

[@watzon151]

Cos they need more money to waste on buying themselves stuff

[@brianhowells1547]

Because EV's don't use fuel

[@jimbrown2688]

They'll do both. Fuel duty and pay per mile. PPP will essentially be an additional tax and fuel duty to be renamed Carbon Duty.

[@markg3683]

So, lots of cameras everywhere, which will luckily not cost a penny and definitely not infringe on civil liberties!

[@tonyb3629]

They'll be able to say that PPM justifies all the cameras won't they, because with them, the system won't work.

[@tobytroubs]

Start by charging those in Parliament , and Kahn , not allowed on expenses....to come out of their own salaries...what's fair for the Goose and all that ..they should experience the results of their own policies .

[@bowjana8128]

And they wonder why more people are going on benefits

[@davelindsay5]

You cant tax yourself to growth.

[@zedddddful]

Productive people are going to leave and they will be left with useless eaters.

[@RonaldSmith-wi4wz]

If you have a cheaper time to travel. Eventually rush hour moves to that time of day.

[@crzldesign231]

Wow, remember when the conspiracy theorists were saying the ULEZ cameras were actually going to be used for "pay per mile"?

[@barryrice7647]

Really, they are going to drop fuel duty... what, completely, so petrol will be around 35p a litre when road pricing come in? YEA OK

[@romanroad483]

Exactly. Road pricing will be in addition to fuel duty.

[@hydraV1-c7d]

Even the guy doesn’t believe what he’s saying “we could start like that “

[@gothicroses666]

It's either we invest OR get rid of the Electoral College and let us the People of the United States of America choose our own leaders!

[@amirmaner]

whomsoever created the Electorate College was a whimp, certainly. Haha just cash $107k from crypto 💯

[@TEE-lw6xz]

It would require a constitutional amendment, so it's more something to work towards than something likely to happen any time soon I will invest for the tomorrow.

[@pammeath]

Which unfortunately takes 2/3 of congressional support in each state in order to enact

[@misoartsy]

@@amirmaner I agree get rid of electoral college, how do crypto work pls?

[@GustavoLindo-tr3ds]

RIGHT! Vote ALL Republicans out of office NOW and FOREVER! Bye-Bye

[@vintagespeedshop]

DVLA Are already sending out letters to inform EV drivers that they will have to start paying road tax as of April.

[@discostu2]

Haha I got mine today for my electric bike

[@papadajnia268]

How much is for the car???​@@discostu2

[@hydraV1-c7d]

This is a joke pay per shuv it up you …. Gilligan

[@hcw199]

So the rich can afford to use a car... The peasants will be priced off the road. Genius!

[@Scatup]

Oh goody! More cameras tracking you.

[@DaveInver]

Why don't they promote "small" motorcycles, less fuel, less congestion, less road damage, less room needed for parking. Look at the motorcycle usage in European city's. We seem to have two choices, pedal cycles or cars.

[@bostonbikebits6539]

Good question when in actual fact they do the complete opposite.

[@TheRahsoft]

Already too many on provisional licences driving for "uber eats"

[@ossianx8752]

Taxation on fuel and energy is a stealth tax on food, food production and food retail - it is taxing you to eat! - no sane Government taxes or unnecessarily admin burdens food production in a fashion that drives prices up. Taxation on Fuel and energy for the masses is a taxation on your freedom of movement - the 'luxury' of taking the kids to school, to get to work to go to the supermarket and get the taxed food ... and the 'luxury' of heating your own home, keeping the lights on .... there should be ZERO taxation on fuel and energy -- it would drive the cost of nearly everything down - everyone would be better off .... particularly the less well off ....

[@garyh1572]

But Brexit added costs to food !!!!!!!

[@lapisredux]

@@garyh1572 so go live in the eu....fill in a few forms to prove you can support yourself and away you go.

[@ossianx8752]

@@garyh1572 No the EU added costs to food, Eu energy policy, Eu Agricultural policy - the EU has some of the most expensive food in the world. Brexit has failed to cut the price of food because we are stuck with pro EU people who will not take advantage of global prices and who will not unburden our farmers from the expense and taxes the EU foisted upon us .....

[@robblake6804]

​@@garyh1572no where near the cost increase caused by wastfuk spending on renewables and other net 0 trash

[@doriangray6985]

Tax on all logistics

[@Andy1119]

Road price cyclists as well

[@ejc636]

How

[@SprocketListLiveUK]

“EVs are a problem because they aren’t taxed” - people and things are not by default a “problem” because there isn’t tax money being sucked out of them.

[@BenWharfe-vr1pn]

And bus prices go up for those who can no longer afford a car. Are we glad we voted labour yet 🤦🏼🤡

[@garyh1572]

The cap was only lasting until December anyway !!!

[@5ebra1]

I suppose all those foreign lorries will fill up here and be exempt from road pricing.

[@joeoria4497]

foreign trucks have been paying to use UK roads since 2014 I think for a max weight truck it's a tenner a day... UK is the most expensive diesel in Europe so you won't get many filling up if they can help it

[@francisphillips8192]

This man is taking through his arse

[@lapisredux]

like starmer then.

[@zedddddful]

Well this sounds like a horrendous infringement of our right to travel government need to back off.

[@joeoria4497]

start off at very low price per mile then when everyone takes it for granted bump it up every year until we go back to you have to be rich to drive..oh wait I wonder if that's the plan

[@andrewstafford-jones4291]

The Civil Serpents have been planning this for the last 15 years. The pre-requisite was the need for high speed fibre broadband as the vast amounts of data from the millins of roadside cameras would have overloaded the system. They are now planning a "Pay per Mile" system at a low rate that will be steadily increased to eye watering charges of about £2000 per year so only the very rich will be able to afford the motor vehicle. This is all part of the grand plan to drive the general public off the roads. The government needs ever increasing amounts of our money to fund its totalitarian madness.

[@Wolsey67]

So all that will happen is the congestion time will move because everyone is now avoiding the charge. Well done. Every action has an opposite reaction.

[@leefisher816]

There’s no way this greedy government would scrap fuel duty - they would do both taxes!

[@jamiebrooks3864]

What could go wrong 😂

[@JustmeandB]

Charge pedestrians for walking next….

[@TheRahsoft]

charge people for breathing after that !!!

[@EwaRiro]

🤣😂 - govt chose to FLY before society learned to WALK, it's like the policy is irreversible

[@nothandmade9686]

Wait for congested areas to be expanded into basically everywhere.

[@johnristheanswer]

Fuel duty IS being introduced on electric cars in 2025. This fella doesn't seem to know that or is deliberately forgetting. So there won't be a huge loss in revenue as he stated.

[@TheRahsoft]

how is the fuel duty on EVs being administered? is it via electricity consumption?

[@jeremykille4689]

Watch out for The law of unintended consequences.

[@drdoug007]

So sad that your taxation is going down. STOP SPENDING OTHER PEOPLES MONEY!!!!

[@stevenwileman2443]

If you want the economy to grow. Increase the tax brackets and introduce a new one for 100k.

[@akula9713]

Remove ALL tax on motorists, governments need to learn to spend less!

[@drandrewallan]

Punishment for not buying an electric car that cost an arm and a leg and realistically won’t get you more than 20miles!

[@vevey75]

Aren't electric cars paying for overpriced electricity?? He failed to acknowledge the higher cost of buying equivalent EV, plus insurance and servicing.

[@ruthcollins2841]

And too heavy on our roads

[@whitehart11]

Insurance is not much higher and servicing is less

[@whitehart11]

@@ruthcollins2841 What? Heavier than an HGV?

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

As usual, another idealogical punitive tax from a Labour Gov. Penalising those that need to use their cars the most.

[@RicardoPetrazzi]

Scrap Fuel Duty altogether - No Pay Per Mile Road Pricing either - goverment just has to give up the tax take - this will provide a massive boost to the economy etc

[@RushfanUK]

Congestion in most places is artificial, it has been imposed as part of councils and DoT war on the motorist.

[@r016976]

Increase road/ vehicle taxes just makes us less competitive globally it's anti British. It's much more sensible to elect a government who can work within a budget like the rest of world businesses do. We don't need to raise more taxes we need to stop paying for things like the Chagos islands, illegal immigrants, foreign prisoners, international funds, people who chose not to work...

[@theralphster8492]

I smell more inflation…any commercial operator will just pass it onto the customer.

[@stequality]

The public are ruthless voting for this

[@gavauls]

No tax on fuel and 1p a mile. Id save a fortune!

[@daz2305]

Is it me or does anyone else agree that as of late it feels like this country and government will stop at nothing to take every penny possible away from you until you have nothing and learn to live with nothing and be happy.

[@garyh1572]

And yet the Tories, who you have voted for all this time, have made the rich even richer !!!!

[@pauljarratt5775]

Make all politicians catch buses and trains and pay for it not tax payer like everyone else have to pay out of own pockets and scrap all expenses

[@r016976]

Raising tax and on vans, cars and especially HGVs just taxes the working man. Its not the haulage company who pays but the consumer of the product which increases to pay the tax. So it would be the same as raising income tax. You can't hide tax increases.

[@nothandmade9686]

How about just no tax? Lots of savings to be made.

[@nicolaspenney2614]

Oh dear me 50 years behind the times. First trip to France 50 odd years ago Autoroute yes I paid for first class roads and infrastructure. Still is.

[@paulratnage2663]

Another reason why I’ll will never buy a EV, as they cost to much to buy, then taxed a luxury tax due to them costing over £40,000. I can’t afford to buy one, taxed £500 plus for 3/4 years, then scratch the battery & have to spend £20,000 on a new battery. If you can find someone unless it catches fire before then. It’s like the diesel all over again when the government stated buy diesels then years later they are crap. EVs will be like mobile phones, renew every few years. No thanks EVs.

[@stephenwalton2633]

It will just be an additional tax , that 100,000’s if not millions will fiddle and find a way out. I can think of a few straight away.

[@papadajnia268]

Tax tax tax ....Davos agenda ( you will own nothing and you be happy)

[@jamesphoenix1850]

Or…. And here’s a crazy idea, how about you cut the £150 billion of waste that currently exists in government spending and start paying down the debt to free up another £80 billion? Thereby reducing taxation across the board and driving growth, which would then create more revenue and allow even further reduction in tax rates and free up money for investment.

[@waynekerrr9027]

Speed limits mean nothing..we live in a built up village 30mph, and people are driving silly speeds of upto 70mph through here, and nobody does anything about it

[@beefy0978]

Because the high speeders require pulling over and there’s no police. Cameras catch relatively law abiding folk that go a few mph over…

[@waynekerrr9027]

@@beefy0978 correct..no police anymore...plenty in Greggs buying coffees though

[@HafizYazeedi]

Government should sort out the Road Maintenance Jokers. Every 3rd Road is now under Road Maintenance. Why start Work on a Road, when the previous road is conned off and NO Workers in sight?

[@NeilJonesCoach]

LTNs will funnel drivers into high priced roads in towns.

[@matthewjones8977]

As I live in a terraced house with no driveway/Garage I have no way to charge my car overnight.

[@mattball8995]

EVs are becoming uninsurable due to the risks and damage to batteries.. insurance companies write off EVs from bumps they cant promise haven't damaged the battery. Wait until EV insurance is £4000-5000 per year.. will make fuel duty look cheap!

[@Trevor_Austin]

Pricing the poorer motorists off the road will certainly free up space on the road. I’m not so sure that they will be pleased about such a policy. Now how about another idea? Stop all lefties, remoaners and civil servants from using the roads. The poor, whose vote is as good as everyone else’s would vote for this. So there we are; fixed.

[@mrichards913]

Alexandra, Good afternoon I respect your candid approach with guests on your talk show and wish to thank you for tenacity, you’re a breath of fresh air! When speaking with your Guest from New York, you mentioned the word vacuous, forgive me for thinking this word perfectly fits in with your guest when discussing “the motorist” and plans on scrapping fuel duty, I concur with you when diving anywhere in the UK, surely, in part, the problem with congestion, is digging up the roads and motorways and leaving them for weeks (sometimes months) with absolutely nothing happening! I accept Andrew Gilligan is no doubt an intellectual thinker, however, on occasions, “we can’t see the wood for the trees” Give us a break!! Many suggest using Public transport, however, when one looks closely at the reality (unless in London) it’s a non-starter and let’s be honest, the tube often simulates becoming a squashed sardine! I missed a flight by 10minutes months ago due to 13 miles of road works down to one line on the M1 south and not one person working! Rant over. Best regards

[@sundeeppatel3979]

I could moan about driving all day, but I wouldn't get anywhere 😂

[@segandy2888]

Just tax electric vehicles ffs!!!!

[@davideyres955]

When ever people start talking about things like this Is to think if you are not collecting tax from somewhere you have to as it somewhere else. The problem with road pricing is tracking it. You will either have to as checks to the mot system or track cars by anpr. It will cost a fortune and it will add cost for transport so the price of everything will go up.

[@mda5003]

Road pricing won't help drivers. Nobody will pay less so what's he talking about - people can't choose when they drive! As for EVs not paying VED is he not aware that from April next year they will have to start paying. And how can taxis pay less? They can't choose when they drive unless they all decide to stay at home when customers want them.

[@JustmeandB]

Or volunteer drivers who help get people to appointments that buses and taxis can’t cover….

[@RichardNelson-h4b]

@mda5003 this bloke is talking utter nonsense he knows it will cost people more and most of the time congestion is caused by people trying to get to work so an easy way to trap people to pay more

[@Theforestbandit]

if you scrap the fuel duty you save a few pence but with pay per mile your going to get ripped off big time .and scrapping the fuel duty will have no reduction on the price of a litre in time

[@thepikeangler2022]

Certainly won't, the oil companies would fill the gap with profit.

[@mickyday2008]

They’ve already made their mind up.

[@Talboy-p4e]

Just came back from dubai Beautiful roads Heaven driving any time Beautiful roads England gone back wards Unfortunately England don't invest Never have done Asia countries Well head I travel alot Asia the new future Not only they know how to make cars Also beautiful roads Common sense Ps Never find any pot holes Amazing

[@66kbm]

How would this affect Hauliers?

[@neha7445]

Transport man - taxis mostly run at night🤣🤣🤣 Where do they get and educate these muppets

[@marksapollo]

No mention of everyone who lives outside of a city.. no doubt it'll penalise anyone who lives in the countryside the most. When you have no choice but to drive.

[@maarsyDTH]

i save my long drives for night time , for the last years i get hit with no end of road works detours and mobile work forces . a nottingham to dover trip should take just under 4 hours butit often takes me 5 ... at 2 - 5 am

[@andrewbennett7756]

EV save the environment wat a joke😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 diry tomake 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ryanchisholm1681]

Black box insurance already tracks miles

[@TCbiker2916]

We already have roads pricing it's called fuel duty. This man is talking out of his arse. If it must be introduced anly apply it to EVs as they are the easiest to track.

[@oldshiny3012]

will look forward to all those business that shut up shop and as for the rest of us get use to high prices in the shops and forget about free parcel deliveries anymore

[@grahamnigh2142]

this is just a cash grab. total con

[@AR-zr1om]

Does this guy know that people don’t drive at 8am and 5pm for banter? That happens to be when people typically work?! It won’t help congestion at all

[@BIGGGESTAL]

Then you move on to charging us to move, breathe, cough and fart. But we won't cut fuel duty.

[@THEFORBIDDENMAN-lk7of]

SEE YOUR NOT COVERING RICHARD TICE

[@Bobajobbob007]

Most of what he says is total nonsense. There are no advantages. Only additional costs.

[@philboyce1582]

It’s coming, don’t forget they did this with diesel cars in the early 2000’s buy diesel they said then jacked to fuel duty on them…won’t be fooled again…….

[@BIGGGESTAL]

Andrew Gilligan. Nutter

[@rlw85]

So you have to pay more to go to and from work 😂 makes sense

[@paulratnage2663]

Is this happening in another country?

[@Talboy-p4e]

Very odd 2024 Traffic jams always Can't drive anywhere And yet everyone has sat nav And still get stuck in traffic 😂😂 I had my golden years back then 1960 /70 /80 When driving was beautiful Peaceful heaven Suppose We were the lucky ones back then Today It not worth it Sat nav will take me to traffic 😂😂😂

[@mickyday2008]

This is disgusting

[@MarkGilligan4]

oh yeah lets drive up inflation by increasing the costs to hauliers to get our goods including food and clothing to us.... As for how they will measure how many miles you have done.... my guess it will be little black boxes that will feed everything back, they won't need speed cameras, they won't need traffic officers as much as the little black boxes will tell them everything.

[@andrewbennett7756]

And don't forget the EV cars are more heavy

[@eileenmulhall1330]

He dosnt sound like he really believes what he saying or is not sure what he is saying

[@wombleworks-c7b]

Who is this fool NO to your road charge. Buy a car pay vat, road tax pay vat. fuel duty pay vat. repairs pay vat. tax tax tax tax government puts it hand in your shirt and squeezes you t@ts till they are blue easy remedy charge ev's road duty on the weight of there car (flat rate) done none of this road charging cr@p thank you

[@jamesfry7144]

You dont pay road tax in France and fuel is near the same as UK

[@compassprodrive6572]

Ah well. If that’s the case no one will learn to drive as instructors will be priced off the roads meaning cutting congestion off at the knees. Sorted 🙄😂

[@mickyday2008]

The cameras are being installed now. Take a look around where you live. Little white cameras on lampposts. Loads have gone up in my town. Disgraceful

[@alma2229]

What people dont understand is, its correct EV cars dont need to fill up with petrol, hence the governments fuel duty figures reduce, but EV owners pay in other ways, they have to top up there cars with electricity so there electricity bill is higher than people with petrol cars, so I think its unfair to charge EV owners more money.

[@TheRahsoft]

if you insist on road pricing ( say via MOT) then make it a combination of distance plus weight of vehicles( which means the heavier EVs have to pay more).

[@julianmiller6740]

He must ride a bycicle