'Where Do We Stop?' | RAGE Against Slavery Reparations With Mike & Kevin | Grumpy Old Men

[@midgemagoo]

Spot on guys - reparations are pure codswallop. West Africans should pay reparations to W Africans !

[@toniswift6058]

Absolutely!

[@TheWorldisSoDivided]

Africans sold them. Look for reperations from the Arabs in Africa. (Geez, need to double check that spell check)

[@Analiffey16]

What about the Irish children slaves?? Oh feck sorry, wrong colour 🤦‍♀️

[@TheWorldisSoDivided]

Amen

[@DeneMonkey]

So does this mean UK have to give back to Ireland as well

[@Analiffey16]

@@DeneMonkey No, I was just pointing out that every country has a history of slave trading! I have never owned slaves so why do I have to pay reparations to people who were never slaves?!

[@trevaudio]

@@Analiffey16 But you didn’t mind paying reparations to slave owning families ?

[@trevaudio]

@@DeneMonkey UK definitely couldn’t afford that. Dont worry, Ireland is loaded….its India you’d have to worry about…imagine that bill ??😂

[@Legacoid]

African Kings/Leaders sold their own people to European slave traders. It was a massive industry. The people that complained most when Britain eventually ended the slave trade were the Africans - the stood to lose a lot of money. Surely if reparations are due you need to seek them from the people that sold you into slavery? Not the people that purchased you? If someone steals an expensive diamond ring and sells it - who should I (the rightful owner) seek compensation from? The person that bought the ring in good faith, or the person that stole it and sold it? What does the law say in this respect?

[@michaelpcoffee]

The person who owns the diamond gets the diamond back. If they stole money and gave it away; the owner would be compensated by the original thief.

[@nigeisfree7837]

They need to look a bit closer to home for reparations from there own for selling them into slavery 😮

[@terenceregan2433]

We can't look after our old people but seem happy to fund everybody else

[@lorenecarden6312]

American here....and I LOVE this show!

[@manuelaffonso2191]

Boycot the islands demanding reparations. That will show them.

[@Iveraghboy]

Barbados is to flipping hot anyway , just sitting still in the shade is a blooming nightmare plus mosquito attacks

[@matthewclegg950]

Most definitely, Barbados. The woman in charge when dissolved from the Commonwealth a few years ago, along with Rihanna, was incredibly rude about our late Queen Elizabeth II.

[@Deborah69-w7z]

That’s my kind of parenting! I remember telling my son if he didn’t tidy his room I would put everything that was on the floor in the bin ! He didn’t tidy his bedroom and I threw everything that was on the floor in the bin ! And NO I DIDN’T TAKE IT BACK OUT LATER!!

[@goffthomas2554]

@Deborah69-w7z Well done! 😊

[@sarahnelson6389]

lol I took my daughters bedroom door off its hinges as she would slam it every time she couldn’t get her own way, she was about 16 she’s now 46

[@sonny9161]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 love it ❤❤❤

[@susanrich6054]

Great show really makes me laugh, which is quite something considering I'm a grumpy old woman.

[@leslieabell9844]

This Government is so awful that I would not put it past these idiots to even sympathise and encourage such ridiculous claims and I agree that this claim could be classed as grift . It seems to be forgotten that certain African nations were engaging in slavery long before Britain had any involvement and also continued to supply the slave Trade whilst it continued. The Middle East was heavily involved in slavery at one time as were many other countries ( remember the Roman Empire) and anyone pursuing such claims now should be firmly told to take a running jump and shut it forever.

[@ValTwineDeaner]

How about giving bills to all those foreigners who came here, and come here for free, and given a nice little free life.

[@AconcernedUKcitizen]

My teenager son behavior was atrocious, he'd do what he wanted, gets up when he wanted, eats when he wanted. I had enough of him, one day after calling for him several times to come and eat lunch he'd just ignored me. I filled a bucket of water and entered his bedroom, he was lying in his bed and emptied it over him, problem sorted. At his 18th birthday, I informed him to find somewhere else to live, he found a flat and he's living there ever since.

[@sonny9161]

Good for you 👏👏👏👏👍👍👍👍

[@robdee6316]

I wish I was confident enough to believe that we would tell them a simple NO.

[@EagleBill1]

The UK is responsible for giving technology and most of the industrial inventions to every country in the world so we should be getting reparations for that, and the UK has given multiple billions of foreign aid to hundreds of countries across the world so we should be getting help from them.

[@DeneMonkey]

UK needed to build railways and roads to transport goods they stolen

[@abhishekpandey3244]

you get the royalties if your invention is being used by others

[@trevaudio]

Except the countries you colonised never benefited from any Industrial Revolution. It’s called economic colonialism….you should read about it.

[@abhishekpandey3244]

@@trevaudio Have you seen the History syllabus in UK, They barely have any mention of the British colonial history. Some in UK think they brought peace, prosperity and civility to the colonies! It was nice to see Dr. Shashi Tharoor shatter this delusion in the Oxford Union debate.

[@petesmitt]

@@trevaudio Never mentioned colonisation or its benefits; that's another matter altogether.

[@cliverichards9850]

I'm a very poor old git & in defence of Crocs they are great for the infirm, no laces, easy to slip on & no need to polish.

[@goffthomas2554]

@cliverichards9850 Especially when you go down the garden last thing at night too pee with the dog! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@PamelaProPeace]

In Africa African tribes - mostly Muslim - were the ones who captured neighbouring tribesmen to be sold as the slaves. How about them paying reparations? And it was the British who actually banned the slave trade over two centuries ago Whereas in Africa today slavery still exists. (What about the Boko Haram girl slaves, for example?)

[@Sam-gw5pl]

I demand reparations from Italy for the Roman invasions of England.

[@trevaudio]

Italy didn’t exist then, so good luck with that !!

[@LeslieDiablerets]

​@@trevaudiothat would be the excuse at any rate.

[@SCOTSMAN.]

​​@@trevaudioi cant tell if your joking. You are wrong. A quick Google gives you all the info you need. If your not joking then good luck with life.

[@serenashaw-q3y]

We should claim from North Africa for the capture of many thousands of people throughout Europe (even as far north as Scandinavia); people abandoning fishing villages around the coasts because of the constant danger; taken back to Barbary and sold into slavery - women to Arabian harems - and the men castrated. Sadly they could not have descendants to claim compensation....

[@sonny9161]

Well done for locking him out 👍👍. Excellent parenting 👍👍👍

[@wendyw2118]

How about we give them a bill for all the ships used all the pay given for all the high seas work to stop slavery then bill for all the time spent stopping slavery and for all the people that ended up in Briton as free it runs into billions

[@DefCon12345]

I want reparation for my ancestors [long before Lammy's ancestors] for his brethren from the Ivory Coast, pillaging ships carrying white passengers, taking them home, enslaving them under barbaric conditions and making them work 24/7 till they dropped down dead. Then they would set sail again to seize more ships with white passengers, when their hostage/slave numbers were down. Shameful that not one person in Government has the balls to say this to those seeking compensation for what happened long before they were enslaved.

[@ets2atstruckermartin527]

Slavery has just changed never endet

[@Rosemary-iz5vc]

Can’t we charge the Caribbean countries nineteen trillion pounds for the cost of using the Royal Navy for their part in ending the slave trade.

[@serenashaw-q3y]

And the very high death rate of British sailors who died stopping the slavers.... how wrong can they be?

[@pamelahunter8659]

Love this show!

[@goffthomas2554]

Sorry if it’s off piste, Mark Wogan, lovely fella a real chip off the block! Sir Terry Wogan was a legend with his Janet and John stories. His off the cuff comments and jokes, 😅😅😅😅😅. I miss him so much! 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@paulearley8381]

mike you are a great dad ! 🤣 this will be appreciated in later years

[@JosephineClatworthy]

Love these two they are like the 2 ronnies michael and Kevin

[@FionaBrown-zd5hl]

Love this show❤

[@colleenpitkin2366]

Agree with you, it was so very funny. We need more of these progs.

[@abhishekpandey3244]

Reparations won't do anything, rather just acknowledging the past of the wrong being done and moving on by creating new trade alliance would go a rather long way in terms of continued economic prosperity on either side. Imagine if my country, India, began asking for 45 trillion pounds in reparations! It's just stupid! being stuck in the past doesn't help.

[@jameslewis3083]

I refused to wear crocs for years! I got bought a pair of crocs for Xmas (as a joke I suspect) I love them so much that I even work in them. At face value this doesn’t seem that bad until you know I’m a farmer 😂

[@goffthomas2554]

They can FRO! We didn’t start it but we did put a stop to it!

[@AndrewWilliams-kw6bc]

CLAP ! CLAP ! GRIFTER'S !

[@annemariegrant7081]

Where does it end?

[@moirahaarhoff5286]

My mother insisted that we shouldn't eat or smoke in public. Others, perhaps, could not afford food. Now, we can only smoke outside, in public and everyone eats on the street. Ladylike manners have changed considerably!

[@Critical.J]

And many a cup of tea was enjoyed by all.

[@PS_testing321...]

The thought of Mike or Kevin wearing Crocs has me laughing out loud.

[@MsStack42]

Please, please, somebody, invent the Croc of Shite emoji ! ♥♥♥♥♥♥🙏

[@English_By_The_Grace_Of_God]

I wouldn’t put it past this government to agree to the reparations..

[@lynnneustaedter-qz9xg]

LOVE your show 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@rab1962]

Oh thank God… I hate Crocs too!! 🤣😂😂🤣But sorry Mike, Ugg boots are brilliant, I don’t wear them outside but as slippers in a house with no heating… brilliant 😃

[@black5f]

Good on you Mike. They want to be grown up, fine lock them out. Mine are grown up. But one claimed he was going to leave 20 years ago, so I showed him out , threw some clothes out the window and a suitcase. He came grovelling back. Or, just stop giving them money and charge them board?

[@Joanna7428]

Sorry, I own a pair of pink crocs that I'm guilty of wearing on dog walks and in the garden and Kevin I'm not left wing! 😀

[@irenaathena7181]

I'm definitely not left wing, and have several pairs of Crocs, I use them in the garden, and have some to swap into when entering the house. I have fluffy lined Crocs to use as slippers, more sturdy and less likely to fall off than regular slippers. I have occasionally worn them to the supermarket, but usually don't wear them out in public, but do wear them to the beach, safer to drive in than sandals.

[@suededogs9670]

Yes , I too live & die in crocs

[@leemccabemccabe5627]

Social media worrying today's world 💯

[@iantobanter9546]

Balls! Wales was England's first feudal colony. Get in line, Bongo Bongo Land!

[@AconcernedUKcitizen]

They're aiming high in the hope to let us bid them down, effectively letting them into negotiation.

[@goffthomas2554]

@AconcernedUKcitizen I say phuckm! They deserve nothing!

[@bl4531]

Mike, your son now knows about being tracked by his mum.😄

[@tridentmusic5570]

And the Dog said, "Water's bloody cold in this trough" (Human said,"I haven't found mine yet.................)

[@PS_testing321...]

It's ridiculous. Look how many people reside in the UK and the US that did not even immigrate until well after slavery was over. My grandparents all when to the US from Ireland in the 1920's. So, now as an American, I should pay reparations, considering how the Irish were generally treated? That said, on an interesting note, St. Patrick is reported to have ended up in Ireland because he was kidnapped and brought there to work as a slave. Once he gained his freedom, he returned to Ireland as a Catholic missionary.

[@neelamacwan7670]

A penny is too much for the scroungers

[@gibbailey5667]

A recent trip to Rome and a nighttime conducted tour of the colosseum. The issue of slavery, the Roman Empire and Briton came up and I jokingly demanded reparations. Just a joke, of course, but it’s becoming beyond a joke.

[@dawnsparks9207]

Did Crocs start out as inmates (U.S.A prison shoes )shoes, because they were cheap ?

[@leanneclare3750]

Uggs remind me of the Velcro secured boots worn by elderly people.

[@Dagrdottir]

fIrstly slavery originated in Africa by black Africans selling black Africans...which they still do - secondly many of the Caribbean people, judging by their varying skin colours probably have a lot of white in them.....perhaps from slavers but then their ancestors were involved in slavery so perhaps they should pay reparations

[@debbielangton8371]

They stopped my carabean carnival never had trouble they lived here ffs

[@trevorluft1763]

Where are our reparations? Our labour is in bondage to the taxman

[@johnlast4875]

Love Mike but worry that he is dining out a la Alex Salmon style

[@christinaroche9616]

The stupid so-called Lawyer's grifters are just after money and will go to any lengths to stir this up. Get on with your lives, Lawyers. I hope you have more to do than raking up the past. Every country had problems in the past, but you don't hear them moaning about it. It's just about money.

[@Pawsforthought222]

I cannot thumbs up / "like" this ....just letting you know....

[@Ducky-b8y]

I want reparations for my ancestors who were maimed living in poverty and worked to death in the cotton mills please

[@tridentmusic5570]

Rep Rations? Bill them all for Educashun and Langwich Innit? ..............

[@debbielangton8371]

Pearly king and queen 👑 mirrus dancing 😂

[@user-xs9fp3ic9y]

Kevin looks totally bemused at uggs slippers.

[@debbielangton8371]

Lung wirm causes gastroenteritis in dogs😢

[@petergardner5002]

People who look like slaves demand reparations from people who look like slave owners.

[@spotcatsteve3752]

I identify as a black descendant of a slave 😂 show me the money 😂

[@tridentmusic5570]

(Convinced now, It WAS him, Mark. one day soon It will be YOU....Good Genes , Lad....)

[@theholloway7]

6.42. Nicholas parsons?

[@debbielangton8371]

Worms

[@debbielangton8371]

Im a difficult adult and wat ya saying 😂😂

[@debbielangton8371]

Taned pink and brown 😅

[@debbielangton8371]

Nooe 😂slug and lettuce 🥬😅

[@neilworton9853]

People of the Caribbean, the countries you live or countries that were given to you . News flash the Caribbean never had black people in them 300 years ago . You have countries to call home due to the slave trade. I'm not saying it was a good thing because it wasn't. But please answer a question: Why are 8 of the top 10 countries in the world with the highest number of slaves in them still in Africa . We stopped 200 years ago, but Africa has carried on like nothing ever stopped . Maybe the people of the Caribbean should be more interested in that than blaming white European countries

[@debbielangton8371]

Oops 🙊🙊 utube ban cooper cooking 🍳

[@debbielangton8371]

Some Asian are two tone brown and pink ya cant bkeach it😂

[@ValTwineDeaner]

That should've said: from Germany RAZING not grazing!!! Grrr, stupid predictive text.

[@Earl-Dumarest]

Crocs are the most comfortable shoes ever.and they are veggie. he is just a shoe snob.

[@debbielangton8371]

Put salt on ny sluy and lettuce the slug turns into little maggot cheese strings slugs are cocoon they love dog 💩

[@gloriacruz4834]

Well said Kevin!!!!! No money for reperation!!!!! So demented people let these slaves RIP. They were the real slaves, not these younger people wanting money without working.....

[@TheInquisitorTV]

So, reparations, logic. Rome Conquered most of Britain, they enslave 1000s if not millions, so Italy, Rome, the Vatican owe us billions. Anglo/Saxons, conquered and enslaved ( Holland and Germany), the Danish vikings, conquered and enslaved (Denmark), the Norman's ( norse/viking/France) the conquered and enslaved. Where do you draw the line? Africans ans muslims were very instrumental in the so called slave trade, Africans capturing and enslaving their own people( or neighbouring tribes). Islam, massive slave traders and some say they still are ( slave markets now in Libya after Clinton's murder of gaddafi ( the Libyans had the highest living standard in Africa and was the bulwark against mass immigration from sub Sahara Africa!) Add to that the Barbery pirates tgat enslaved many along the English channel in medieval times. So what about reparations? The people who enslaved other people no longer exist, how is anyone alive today responsible for what their ancesters might have done?

[@debbielangton8371]

Some Asian are two tone brown and pink ya cant bkeach it😂