Graeme Souness says Erik ten Hag is already fighting for his job at Manchester United

[@sir.chalksalot]

Remarkable that we are so quick to blame the manager when these players have consistently not shown up for any of their previous managers.

[@Caspthereaper]

Yep same name 3 managers in a row 👏

[@HafizShivji786]

@@Caspthereaper think he's biggest problem is despite having over 2 months of preseason & yet he failed to instill basics

[@registame2878]

This manager had the fortune to watch the other mangers fail and he is failing on the way to being a total failure. The man couldn’t work out that having 2/4 defensive players on the field against a industrious team was a bad idea !

[@registame2878]

That’s what mangers are for!

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Yip... pointless stating to the players that they have to follow your rules when they know the manager has no authority on anything and the players are fully supported by the board no matter what they do

[@ChadLouisNewton]

They've taken 45 points from their last 35 League Games and Ten Hag has been in charge for two of them. If you seriously think he's the problem you're either badly missing or deliberately ignoring the real issues. Wouldn't blame him if he walks out to be fair, as the job was clearly mis-sold to him.

[@ronoccc]

in fairness though, he has to take blame also,he's had 6 weeks preseason and they look terrible

[@spurs7151]

He doesn't have the force of personality for the Man Utd job. Spurs spotted this after interviewing him. He's way out of his depth. He doesn't command the respect of the players.

[@Maax1200]

@Spurs71. The players should stfu and earn their wages. If it takes less than six weeks before some bitches starts whining, its not the coach.

[@awcarpetsflooring9380]

@@ronoccc he was promised 6 players he wanted he hasn't got them

[@alexcore697]

Two games?? We have watched a whole season of this crap team and hes done nothing to change any of it,,,We wanted a full restructure all bad players sold instead he crapped on Ragnicks report thinking he can turn around a load of over payed arseholes,He wasnt mis sold anything Tens arrogance is to blame for this start

[@orourkedafootball]

I'm not a Manchester United supporter. To be honest, I'm finding the whole situation thoroughly enjoyable and hope it continues. However, to hold Erik Ten Hag responsible for this mess after 2 league games is obscene. From the outside looking in, it appears to me that the club has been horriby mismanaged and needs a clean out. Top to Bottom. Playing staff, recruitment, owners you name it.

[@hawkmanson6136]

Kept maguire as captain Spent 55 mil on Martinez Played like shaw lol And erikson st then cdm 😂😂 and that just 2 games

[@mh9tv]

Yes but Ten Hag is to blame for picking Mclaren as a coach.. he was good 20yrs ago not now.. buying the shortest CB in league, keeping Mguire Captain, Making only 1 change frm the Brighton lineup at Brentford. These r all TEN Hags decisions aka Johnny Sins

[@orourkedafootball]

@S. I think they've played their part

[@jamestaylor841]

@@hawkmanson6136 totally agree martinez looks like he's playing with his older brothers and ten haag proper pushed for him

[@mister3566]

@S. Nice aren't you

[@dilnaylomogorhaiyee1450]

The rot started the moment LVG was sacked after winning the FA Cup… the death blow came when Ed Woodward decided to back Pogba instead of Mourinho… from then on the players.. the inmates knew that they ran the asylum.

[@Alzenryo]

the rot should be started from Glazers, even tho they won titles it was because of SAF genius.

[@vummiendiweni7680]

Woodward panicked when City roped in Pep, and decided to fire LVG. LVG waas trying, given the personnel at his disposal. In the 2 years of LVG we dominated both city and liverpool, yet we had the likes of blackett, mcnair, brothwick-jackson in out starting line-up. We only lost twice to Liverpool in the europa league, and once to city when smalling got a red card.

[@wonkybear4400]

@@vummiendiweni7680 Ahh yes, Mike Smalling :D

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

It goes back much further than that. But sacking LVG (and the way they did it) was one of many, many mistakes made by these clowns, agreed

[@andyhulme2274]

@@vummiendiweni7680 van gaal asked the board to get mane while he was at saltzburg mahrez, kante, muller, hummels, ramos, neymar before he left brazil and woodward ignored him on every one woodward bought dia Maria to sell shirts over van gaals preference of sadio mane they under mined a top manager.....

[@SootyHunt]

“Don’t be surprised by surprises in football” Great quote Grahame !

[@alexbelotti1603]

Erik Ten Haag needs to leave before his reputation is ruined. He was naive to think United would buy multiple players, leave Erik.

[@ugez4060]

And Maguire still starts with the armband. That alone is a killer

[@limofootball]

And pochettino would stupidly take it still after all this.

[@TrollingNormies]

What reputation 😂

[@paulhirst7602]

@@ugez4060 yep...that should've being first thing he did as soon as he came through those doors at Old Trafford. Take the captaincy off of slabhead...it would've set his stall out immediately.

[@polaris7122]

Yes in his first game when getting beat, his master tactic was to bring on 3 subs in the 89th min, then he went to Brentford and played with a team of dwarfs. Yes, he definitely is a master tactician!

[@theodorejaja4535]

Even pep would fight for his job with united

[@Anthony-pw5gu]

He wouldn't stoop so low and manage that shite

[@kwabenadonkor1865]

U were wrong

[@kojomckenzie]

I came back to see from where we came. It's been a long journey and it's not finished yet. But Ten Hag is leading us back where we belong.

[@paucordova8440]

and... a league cup already.

[@treyyg-rt5kz]

@@paucordova8440 Mickey Mouse trophies and out of title race as ten hag been found out as he’s just ole ball with inform rashford 😂

[@kb9072]

When Conte lost just after joining Spurs to a small club in the Conference League he said I'm beginning to see that the level is not so good. At that moment nobody blamed him but the players (he was right). My point is he wasn't held responsible so why is ETH responsible for the first 2 games?

[@LeeTAZ-sl7de]

Because its man United and despite not being a threat in 7 years we are still hated by nearly every clubs supporters in England. These shows and the media in general will jump at any chance to create a negative story for clicks... take last season despite Arteta being in charge of Arsenal for over 18 months and them spending 150 mil that summer, they lost there opening 3 matches including a loss to newly promoted Brentford, the narrative was completely different. Ten Hag was always gonna need time to change our fortunes, we lost 3 experienced midfielders and it was always gonna be a struggle.

[@awcarpetsflooring9380]

Agenda mate all agenda

[@mrfab4383]

One game with his B team in the Europa, who cares. He had a system from the day one with a strategy.

[@irieite9666]

Because according to him he is on the same page with the executives when it comes to transfers. In other words its him who decided to get a 60 million defender who's so weak they had to bring him off for his own good at half time against Brentford. And it was him who wanted to pay for a 33 year old Arnautovic when a 27 Year old Euro 2020 winning Belotti is available for free. Maybe things will change but either he is part of the problem or else he seems like Ole 2.0 just acting as a puppet and lightning rod for the owners and board.

[@kb9072]

@@mrfab4383 It wasn't the B team. Lots of first choice players lost that game. I'm a Spurs fan and love Conte and in no way blame him. He was right. The level of the players was poor. I don't understand why ETH doesn't say the same.

[@Vermilion2049]

I am with Ten Hag. If we get relegated with him. I still support him.

[@mwheezee]

L

[@johnleahy5095]

He will defo get you top 4 in championship

[@somethingisbaking2401]

What is this blind loyalty

[@bestyoueverhad.2408]

your delusion is quite remarkable kid.

[@polpol1005]

if or when? :O

[@alexbelotti1603]

We need a GARY NEVILLE and SIMON JORDAN showdown!!!!! Come on

[@BigALBoomer]

I'd pay to see that. Neville is a moaning little toe rag Simon would wipe the floor with him

[@aliyushuaibu4447]

YeaaaaaaaaaaaS pleaseeeeeee! Gary constantly blaming the Glazers

[@johndennison3140]

Gary who?

[@alexbelotti1603]

@@johndennison3140 the son of Neville Neville

[@alexbelotti1603]

@@aliyushuaibu4447 the showdown we need!!!!

[@pamberinehondo9447]

And 6 months later the man has proved everybody wrong………a difficult time for United 😂😂😂. Head and shoulders above Liverpool who are on such a downward spiral……

[@graciescott1649]

6 months down the line we’ve beaten city Liverpool arsenal spurs we are 90 mins away from a cup final comfortably on our way to a top 4 finish still going for another 2 trophies and playing very consistently this aged like a fine wine one love one united👊👊👊👊

[@pjoseph5950]

I've played the game 🤣🤣

[@Matthew-ud3yh]

And still going strong 💪❌️❌️❌️ lets go Ten Hag and United

[@tellall23]

the overractions continue, but if Ten Hag starts Maguire&Shaw next week with all those bad loses in the 12 months..then he would have to be put on sackwatch. The team needs a jolt! Start Varane and Bailly until they break

[@Maax1200]

Bailly? Are you drunk?

[@chrismacsmith6330]

Bailly is better than Maguire at the moment. That is a fact

[@drgreenthumb4526]

@@Maax1200 Are Maguire & Shaw drunk every time they step on the pitch? It would certainly explain a lot about their hilariously awful performances.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@chrismacsmith6330 How can it be a fact if Bailly isn't playing?

[@louislim2004]

Plus the awful mcfred.

[@noreturn4396]

Please interview Nicky Butt: ask him why he resigned in protest over the promotion of Darren Fletcher and power grab by John Murtough. Writing has been on the wall - a bunch of mediocre bottom feeders with no accountability in the backroom or on the pitch. ETH is hardly to blame.

[@alphabeat1221]

Exactly

[@PorkChopExpress86]

Bang on. Fletcher came in "to get his badges "coaching the youths. Within a few months he was magically technical director ,also in the dugout. You couldn't make this stuff up

[@noreturn4396]

@@PorkChopExpress86 Spot on!! Nobody ever talks about this. Managers do not have the free reign the media would have us believe. Fletcher was recently made permanent - on what merit?! Total mediocrity. Would love to hear what Butty has to say, that short was hushed up.

[@alphabeat1221]

Was banned by Ragnick earlier in the year from shouting instructions to players on the sidelines. Look it up!

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Butt and Fletcher would not be anywhere near any other top level club in European football. The fact that Butt was ever in charge of the talent pathway at Utd is ludicrous. And Fletcher sent his boys to City academy. You couldn't make this stuff up

[@MuthuBalaGuruK]

Watching this debate after 6 months 🤣😂🤣 how the time has changed so quickly

[@Liam021]

It always feels good to laugh at Souness

[@User594gs57]

Wish someone would pull him up on the nonsense he spits.

[@glazersout4272]

Well this aged well.. . Just like his drivel about Casimero and Carragher's verbal diahorrea about Martinez. I think it's time to hang up the mic and retire from punditry, before you embarrass yourself any further. Far from being in danger of losing his job, Ten Hag has now turned this club around and, if we had owners who give a damn about the club, would've been backed in January so we'd have a squad that could very possibly walk away with a whole haul of trophies. As it is, our paper thin squad should still get top four and possibly the Carabao Cup. Just because you've "played the game" a hundred years ago doesn't mean you understand modern football, Mr Souness.

[@00lh02]

This aged well.

[@twyscape]

This reminds me so much of Tottenhams recent past. The players got to the Champions League final (on the back of a not so great season) and after losing the final, they downed tools on Pochetino, Murinio (Played a little for Mason) and then downed tools on Nuno. Now we have Conte and it looks like the players are working for a manager finally. I’m seeing the same issues at Man UTD. The problem is squarely at the feet of the players.

[@andrewmartin2103]

Rubbish we have the best stadium in the UK the best training ground man utd are buggered.

[@generalwasteman]

Just back for a laugh at Sourness as United and ETH are tearing it up and Liverpool are flailing in mid table 😂

[@mikepeters5549]

loool

[@treyyg-rt5kz]

Back to reality now, it’s just ole ball

[@krycek1976]

Ten Hag needs at least a full season. We can’t keep changing managers hoping for some miracle especially with the current squad. The mood, culture, mindset and ethos needs an overhaul and you can’t expect any manager to that when it’s as bad as it is atUtd ~ Simple as that! I personally hope he gets a chance 🙏

[@polpol1005]

good point

[@ejaylala1]

As Arsenal fans, we saw this exact movie last season. People will overreact but United will be fine. If the United hierarchy believe Ten Hag is the guy, they’ll give him time and resources to get it right. You can’t panic after every bad result

[@gratefulkm]

Arsenal were close , but it stayed a football Club Utd sign players based on Click value, Winning the league generates 20 million Pogba made 30 million for the club a season as an example So the marketing dept sign the players They lost all thier grit players this summer They are going to get relegated

[@Daniel-cp4bd]

@@gratefulkm nah it’s different we started the season with balogun up front and two of our main players missing chambers and mari in defence lokanga in midfield we also played city and Chelsea 😂

[@nadeemamode]

The difference is that arteta is learning on the job. So arsenal fans could see that, you can lower expectations and let things come along. The other issue is the cost. Why is the price so high?

[@Daniel-cp4bd]

@@nadeemamode he had a full season before that season tho but I understand what you’re trying to say

[@oteng10111]

You were like a wizard in your analysis!!

[@migweld5578]

Oi Jim, tell Karen in HR to stop cutting the live feed when the convo gets slightly controversial or potentially libelous.

[@malcolmjones6010]

Ah, I had an inkling that's what was happening. Totally agree. Though it's funny when White stirs the you know what with his pathetic attempts at being "in charge" and he's not told to shut up and stop talking b*******

[@albertslippe9221]

He is weak for refusing to take the captaincy from Maguire and even drop him.Weak managers always fail.

[@fosiko123]

The decision to keep Maguire as captain is from the top !!! They are all Ferguson boys; that’s one of the problem of Utd for you. The board dictates to the manager ; it’s all favourism

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Pretty sure he was wanting to make De Jong his captain. As it stands, who would you replace Maguire with (as captain) from the current squad? Be specific

[@polpol1005]

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot de gea or CR7

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@polpol1005 Ronaldo? The guy that wants to leave the club immediately and never return? De Gea, the guy who gave two goals to Brentford at the weekend for free? Brilliant

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@Daniel Bruno should be dropped. De Gea should be sold. Varane is always injured and not captain material in any way

[@danieldoyle7084]

Well this, like many of Souness’ comments, aged like milk.

[@AchtungBaby77]

Utd were spanked 6-3 by City and 7-0 by Liverpool since this embarrassing result at Brentford 😅

[@sphinxzoo]

Mentioned everything except Maguire...wow

[@damianfreeman4326]

40 years a utd fan and I've never seen a team so spineless, doesn't matter who the manager is when they walk over the white line the players are responsible if they had a leader on the field they'd have some chance but that team has no leader I'd have to check the stats but I remember reading they were bottom of the league last season for distance covered and it seems like nothing has changed they looked unfit compared to both Brighton and Brentford and Liverpool are going to demolish that team they have a week to put it right but I won't be holding out for anything against Liverpool, when I seen the first 3 games I thought we'd win the first 2 and hopefully scrape a draw with Liverpool, that aged quickly 🤦‍♂️ going to be another long season 😣

[@kwabenadonkor1865]

Sometimes u just have to be patient

[@glazersout4272]

Since then, it's been nothing but an upward curve with a slight blip against the cheaters over on the Blue side.

[@mohanxt]

Graeme Souness! -- thank you ! Manchester United vs Barcelona 2-1 // Sitting on 3rd in the League // playing for all for cups .. 😝😝😝😝

[@Themamachannel69]

They should have got Conte in last season when they sacked Ole

[@orlandobailey2237]

The board was afraid of him

[@solskjaer1195]

Conte alone wouldn't work. He'd still have to report to dumb and dumber aka Murtough and Arnold.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

And he would have walked out by now

[@solskjaer1195]

@@jhpfdijtuiweruot He'd have smashed one of them in the face and walked out. Hahaha

[@JMB1891]

Erik ten Hag has either overestimated the ability of this squad or his own ability to change it.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Do you really think he asked for this squad plus Eriksen on a free transfer when he went for interview?

[@mrb2643]

Oh please another deluded fan wanting a manager change. Let the club go to the lowest and build from there. I mean like the phoenix rise from the ashes. Let UTD scrap for relegation this season perhaps drop down division and then we see real changes and revolution.

[@andyhulme2274]

@@mrb2643 rashford Fred Shaw maguire are the culprits of the last two years totally inept on the pitch, has this ten hagg not done his homework, rangnick said they needed a 7 player clear out which they have not done, inept against Brighton then picked again for Brentford, we've got some reserve talent that's had a good pre season not been given a chance for a fresh start and this ten hagg is looking like a chump for picking these chumps that's over estimating these wasters..... They will throw him under a bus if he keeps picking them...

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@andyhulme2274 The vast majority of Utd fans acknowledged that Maguire was the club's best player for the season before Ronaldo arrived though? And Fred was the only player that showed any positive signs last season. Shaw and Rashford have always been duff. Reality does not match your fantasy.

[@michaelt9511]

He has done both. He has overestimated everything

[@adambodhi431]

Here we go again, after years of hearing from all sides how the team needs a complete ground up rebuild that will require many years of work due to it being fundamentally flawed, the very same people then turn around after a few games and completely ignore their previous comments. Suddenly when the manager hasn't done the job in 5 minutes he's under pressure and working to save his job. What happened to the ground up rebuild? Or is he supposed to do all that whilst also instantly showing results? Can you all please make up your minds....its like you've asked a builder to completely renew your house from the ground up and when he's halfway through stripping the wallpaper your shocked that it looks worse rather than better so you consider sacking him.

[@randopedia1]

As a fan of 33 years, ETH is nowhere near fighting for his job in my mind. Players are, scouts are, board room Members are. ETH has 3 years. And if we start at the bottom (as we are), then that’s what we do.

[@thatsthejobbb8587]

Love how this just springs up on my feed after united take the league cup! Souness is a schmuck and thank God he's been MIA!!

[@r.a.w.talentart]

It's basically the equivalent of giving Roger Federer a badminton racket and telling him he has to win!

[@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere]

No it's the equivalent of giving Federer a 450m racquet and he goes out and gets absolutely smashed by someone holding a 50m racquet. Stop making excuses for this fraud of a manager. How can you have any sympathy for a man that selects Maguire over a world cup, champions league winning varane? He's trying to play out from the back when it's known by everyone that de gea can't kick a ball to save his life! Ten Hag is fully responsible for these two defeats, stop making excuses for this clown.

[@whateverk491]

Hello intellectuals and geniuses

[@dixonlutombi731]

Came back to remind myself where we came from.. GGMU

[@LDT1985]

SERIOUSLY.....Ten Hag has had about six games in charge and four of those were in pre-season! Why are platforms like this putting this level of rubbish out. Talksport has turned into a clickbait for social media. Sad to see.

[@Wheresnorth4romhere]

Pretty much every mainstream platform does this mate. All they care about is pound notes.

[@General12300]

Yh but normally there's a new manager boost when a new gaffer comes in.. 0-4 at Brentford is not acceptable with that squad .. and his subs were terrible

[@marekfalk5369]

they are right, he can be out of his job next month

[@The_Final_Boss_Luka_Mora]

Frank De Beor didn't last 5 games because of his incompetence and that was at Crystal Palace. Ten hag has had 3 months to assess this team buy players and the best he can do is waste money on ex players who are not good enough to compete in this league.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

"has turned into"? That's their exact business model

[@mitchconner4057]

Simon calling Neville a Trotskyite 🤣🤣

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Same accusation can be fairly made at anyone involved with football over the last two years (including Jordan). They all nodded along to the official narrative like good citizens. Pot and kettle stuff here

[@andyhulme2274]

He is

[@andyhulme2274]

@Paddy Bateman they are all to blame the glaziers appointed woodward a x banker who undermined van gaals transfer list and bought most of the chumps at utd who also undermined Mourinho's transfer list....

[@arjunsingadia2459]

Aged. Very. Well

[@KennyIMO]

Ten Hag needs a few seasons to sort this team out, he's inherited a poor team with a bad attitude

[@polaris7122]

In his first game he was trailing 1-2, so he decided to bring on 3 subs in the 89th minute, then he went to Brentford and played a team of dwarfs, one of them being his major signing, and he took him off at half time!!!

[@abishekratheesh8731]

@@polaris7122 first match in the pl it'll take time to understand the weakness and strengths of different teams.

[@abccba5637]

Is it you Ten Haag??? If so keep dreaming lol

[@vinceDarkArt]

He made one wrong move already. Maintaining Maguire as Captain

[@polaris7122]

@@abishekratheesh8731 2 matches, and if you can excuse him bringing on 3 subs in the 89th min you are deluded. No one in their right mind from any league would do that. Also to buy a 5 ft 9 inch CB and then suddenly realize that Brentford play with quite a few giants and that he would have to take him off at half time is beyond a joke! I suggest that he moves Martinez into midfield for the Liverpool game because he can't be any worse than McFred!

[@whateverk491]

Clock is ticking on Klopp already. 🤡

[@Jamie-kv9eg]

Every manager is fighting for their job. That’s the nature of the premier league. Ten Hag is in no immediate danger.

[@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1]

You would think so, but history kind of suggests that it's a possibility. He wouldn't be the first manager to come to the prem and be sacked within a few months.

[@dewiwilliams4821]

Could be like de boer at Palace, it may be destined to fail if he insists on playing a way the squad can't execute.

[@tobylerone4285]

@@IamTheStormThatIsApproaching1 who replaces him though? Poch? Not many options about atm

[@richardjones8699]

@@tobylerone4285 Poch would face it exactly the same problems. A lacklustre squad and nowhere near enough money for a rebuild.

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

@@tobylerone4285 Big Sam, he'll sort your defence out

[@hartshaped]

The way I see it is the media coverage is expecting more out of the side than the squad warrants and a lot of that is down to history and the club’s stature. The reality is it’s a bang average team just about competitive enough in actual player quality (not performance) to something you’d expect of a top 8 teams these days. There’s no use holding a funeral after every defeat, this is who United are now, a decade of this shows it’s a form not a blip, Liverpool went through it, so have Arsenal and even though Spurs haven’t won the league they’ve at least started to consistently push the top 4. I know it’s not what fans will want to here but what the team needs now isn’t pinning hopes one a few statement signings to turn the club around it’s an incremental rebuild over a few years and acceptance of “this is where we are now”, the failure comes from sky high expectations that a few top players will turn a team that have barely had a sniff of experience of success into title challengers overnight. Personally speaking I don’t think United will be able to overcome this expectancy to have to turn things around instantly just because the fan base and media look back on their former glory and point to the size of the club as markers of where they should be now, I can’t ever see any manager being kept on long enough to rebuild, the moment they progress the next season it has to be the league a little or it’s a failure.

[@Пера-т9с]

I agree as a Arsenal fan that had to watch Arsenal rebuild which is almost done, still have 3 or 4 players needing to go out. We tried for a short period to do what Utd was doing for a decade to throw money at expensive players to come at a club and hopefully change the situation. The board quickly realised that is not gonna work, but for Utd i think is even more difficult as they are the poster boys of the Premier league. And are always the main focus when something goes wrong for them example Chelsea and Spurs an epic showdown between managers and they are still talking Utd, Arsenal pumped Lester, City etc. Utd needs stability to keep the manager to actually try to implement the philosophy and discipline into the team. If not they can throw the youngsters who will actually fight for the badge. The transfer window is slowly coming to a end i don't see how they will actually significantly improve the squad from what they already have. Sacking managers just repeats the cycle with the same players.

[@KinSC]

Souness has been quiet lately.😂

[@kakoyovictor-qj6sh]

The hate that is spewd here is just something else I mean you might think they were the best coaches during their time

[@starshapedtambourineman]

Simon had me in tears on this rant 😂

[@alandalton7652]

The championship that's how far they will sink this season

[@britpackdog4545]

Popcorn at the ready

[@richardjones8699]

Better than League 1 though isn't it.

[@Anthony-pw5gu]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@britpackdog4545]

@@richardjones8699 tell us when you get there

[@richardjones8699]

@@britpackdog4545 you lot have been there and not that long ago. You should know.

[@sibusisocedric01]

As a Liverpool fan I'm loving every moment of this 😍 long shall it rain

[@bigpoppaHH69]

Warra trophy for Liverpool

[@mister3566]

Learn to spell

[@mister3566]

Reign. You should stay in school instead of procrastinating at home.

[@donaldellis3609]

@jerseyboy you may have had to many classes.

[@sibusisocedric01]

@@mister3566 if you played Fifa in the days of Andy Grey commentary you would know what i mean when i say long shall it rain.

[@stugtodd2778]

No way is he already fighting for his job. He's only been in charge 2 months or less and two PL matches in. He stated from the very beginning that it will take time and there's no quick fix. All this crap is bullshit.

[@andyfletch1434]

One thing I noticed was the water break, when 2 nil down. Ten Haig was just muttering to himself and the players were walking past him! I think he is another Frank De Boer!

[@innihbassey6369]

LoL how do you like him now? 😂

[@FOOTIATOR]

lol 😂

[@alansmith2387]

This is beautiful to watch. Let's hope the go down to the championship

[@katlegoPilane]

They will not be going down. At least not this season. How does that make you feel?

[@robertjones2486]

im a liverpool fan and loving it to be honest we took enough stick off united over the years but on a pure football level their defence is an utter shambles central defenders are shocking midfield just workman like and lazy forwards

[@Thoushaltplaymore]

The glazers are running the club well like a money making machine. I admire their business acumen, if you aren't happy why don't all the man utd fans put their money together and buy the club. Put your hand in your pockets. ( This is what Rio said to us Newcastle fans complaining for 15 years against Ashley)

[@ForeverEngland76]

And did you ? No. You just whinged about it for years like you said🙄

[@1200montana]

@@ForeverEngland76 not really...just whinged a few months and then became richest club in the world 😁

[@fearlessformidableferociou8623]

At 4bn asking price, if every of the 1.1 bn + utd fan WW puts in a fiver

[@Thoushaltplaymore]

@@ForeverEngland76 the point is we were made to look greedy and entitled. But with man united they have never brought that up yet

[@ashwilliams4959]

@@1200montana still whinging about it even now... we won't hear the end of it with united

[@Red-Red-Red-Red]

As a Liverpool fan Ten Hag will turn it around and put United back on form, right after he goes through his last mauling when Liverpool win 8-0 at Old Trafford next Monday.

[@Andre-hm5vo]

I'm expecting double figures from liverpool next Monday surely 🤣

[@alexholt6810]

They wont beat liverpool next week. They have shown thier fragility in the last 2 games. When liverpool come onto them with the intensity that they play with under klopp they'll fold. The fact that they want to bring in more potentially toxic players such as rabiot whilst considering the sale of garner a decent youngster who would jump at the chance to play for his boyhood club shows how from top to bottom this club is broken.

[@dermotkelly6946]

You really think maclaren knows what is going on at Brentford or anywhere now 😂

[@att3121]

What a lunatic Souness is 😂

[@King1000x]

Ragnick warned him but ETH decided he didn’t want Ragnick around because he could do it on his own. Ragnick would have been an incredible DOF. Ragnick would have told him not to buy a 5’9 CB.

[@olufemi42]

Martinez could come in and play CDM! I think he’d be phenomenal in that position

[@ryanschultz4119]

I've been really enjoying the chemistry between Simon & Graeme! Great addition having Mr. Souness join Talksport.

[@ocubex]

First time I've agreed with Simon. I think Gary Neville is pushing the agenda to oust the Glazers so is ignoring the poor tactics from the manager. The 3rd goal was identical to the 2nd goal, why not change the tactics after conceding 2 goals? If they play like this against Liverpool, they will have to (like we say in Nigeria) come with a basket.

[@gratefulkm]

Neville is simply saying, like Simon said, When you delegate, you expect what you inspect The Glazers only expect money, so they only look at the money Which means the money men can sell the Football down the river for more profit ! Because we are not an American model . we have relegation At the moment due to the owners not inspecting the Teams performance The money men have made lots of money and left the Team to Rot ! And it is so rotten Utd could go down, no matter the manager they essentially have a team of ballerinas

[@mh9tv]

Exactly right.. Neviles owns a hotel opposite Old Trafford which he rips the utd fans for rooms and Glazers opposed it. He wants glazers out so he can try get in with new owners and have his hotel as a partner of mufc

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@mh9tv Yes but Jordan is clearly annoyed that a bloke from Bury has built such an empire out of football when his own attempts to do so didn't work out

[@kwabenadonkor1865]

How the manager doing now? Lol u need to relax the season just started

[@seansines]

This didn’t age well.

[@rayfootblogs]

For anybody to attempt to question Ten Hag, before Tuchel joined Chelsea all he won was 2 French Leagues with PSG and a German Cup with Borrusia Dortmund so hopefully Ten Hag gets 2 years. Sadly, a succession of bad results could dictate his dismissal before the January transfer window as Ten Hag could suffer the same fate as Nuno Espirito Santos at Spurs last season.

[@drakenkraken8455]

Martinez does not look 5'9 to me. Maybe in High heels. More like 5'6. This is Erik Ten Months' baby. And Man Utd will be stuck with him for 5 years. Congrats!!

[@chriswilliams6613]

Don't turn on the manager. The players are toxic and the owners need chasing out the door.

[@haatpraat2993]

I was in a Dutch pub a few months ago watching Ajax v Benfica. During half time I spoke with Ajax fans about Ten Hag and his prospects as a Man Utd coach. All of them said he did not have the personality to be a Man Utd manager. Ten Hag is to Man Utd what Unai Emery was to Arsenal - A very good manager in the wrong job. Ten Hag will be sacked by Christmas.

[@chrissilvester5663]

Don't blame fuckin Ten Hag. He's being failed by the players who haven't changed their mentalities or attitudes one bit nor is he getting the right backing he was promised. Ten Hag isn't a miracle worker he can't do everything himself. I honestly wouldn't blame Ten Hag for walking

[@TSF15152]

Lmao this aged well 😂

[@KingLuudda]

The fact he can't drop Maguire as Captain and still play McFred speaks volumes

[@avocado4662]

Right on, bro. McGuire should be fired on spot, he doesn’t deserve a place in team, let alone captain

[@stevegoggin6708]

As an Arsenal fan, let me just tell you... the manager isn't fighting for his job already and I'm sick of hearing it every time a new manager gets off to a bad start at a big club. Time is key. Given Arteta hasn't even got into the top 4 yet, but it doesn't take a genius to see the change in the club internally and the type of performances we're putting in week in week out. It's all on the board! Pre-Super League talks, Arsenal were ruined from the top down. It took the fans, manager and directors voice to finally get the board to back the process. If you're in, you're 100% in not 90% or 95%. Listen to the fans, listen to the manager and TRUST them. Since our board has done that things have been going well for us. Ten Haag needs time, listening to and backed. It takes more than a year or 2 to get the players fully invested and on the same page as the clubs goals. It takes 2+ windows to get the managers players in that will fit the system. You can't just throw the managers job on the line just because OGS + Mourinho players aren't buying into his tactics and system after 2 games. Not even at the end of the season. This season and possibly next season is a complete write off for Manchester United. You'll have moments of beauty and even a winning run, but you're gonna have a lot more heartache unfortunately. Its not gonna be a fun start, but if the manager is actually supported by the board this could be turning point for united back to greatness. Just be patient.

[@ayirothestan7733]

We were in the Mud back then......10 Hag is Genius, whose laughing now

[@PhelpsTravel]

Some great points and as an Old Trafford/Stretford man born and bred it’s hard to disagree with anything. I’ve renewed my Season Ticket so what will be will be. But the magnificent Liverpool could be behind us by Monday. Love to see the response from Graham and the Liverpool love in boys on this channel

[@mohammedntambiye4738]

Bloody hell, Simon went in 😁

[@mylivingbubble]

Last whole year, they had been trying to change playing style from being more direct and counter attacking football to be more proactive and progressive. But I think these 2 styles require different sets of players, Using the same players, is like forcing crocs to hunt on land instead of in water. I think that’s why the players are so confused and demoralised….

[@zainkhan777]

LoL how well this has aged....just shows pundits know what they know and what they peddle to the ppl with their agendas in mind.... 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SadatJameel13]

As a United fan I'm proud of the brilliant job Ten Hag has done since this misery of a game.

[@jdizzle_01]

I do feel for ETH. He is learning a new league. He has to figure out how to get this team fighting for each other. I do believe he should have learned from the Brighton game about Martinez at CB. I think Martinez might have done better than Eriksen in that deeper Midfield position.

[@aderonkeadebambi9855]

Do you still think Martinez should play midfield and Eriksen benched? Y'all lack patience.

[@lucascooper7596]

This has aged like milk.

[@robotstobor3388]

good panel, SJ, JW and GS, excellent analysis. I can only imagine that United will make a good Netflix special.

[@Vermilion2049]

Some of these players need to be dropped permanently. Shaw, Rashford, Bruno

[@wujmt5154]

Yup they have been abysmal for some time.Add to that the actual effort on the pitch from them its quite amazing.People paying there hard earned to go to the games and these guys cant even be bothered to put a shift in.They ought to be ashamed,but they dont care.Its not them that will get the sack and they know it.Its ANOTHER manager.

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

...years ago

[@b_b256axle8]

All these guys are so happy that united is going through this coz during their playing days it was only 😢 tears

[@HankRearden84]

Personally I think ten Hag is WAY over his head. I just dont think he has the charisma nor the chops needed to steer the ship of the worlds biggest, most dysfunctional football club.

[@andyhulme2274]

Uninspiring android

[@bensmith5288]

Green and gold till the club is sold

[@User594gs57]

Nope Graeme the clock is ticking on you n your nonsense.

[@Mosh-f5b]

Pep would have cleared out the egos. He did that with Joe Hart

[@marvinbrando722]

And media attacked him

[@Mosh-f5b]

@@marvinbrando722 agreed. I also thought he was nuts to get rid of Hart and Toure and failed with the Bravo experiment but in the long term he has been successful

[@marvinbrando722]

@@Mosh-f5b . I know he was right. Now imagine doing that in United. Omg, the media +crazy fans total war against Ten hag if he does something similar. He could, but he zero support from management.

[@TheRealDuracellBunny]

This has aged well

[@TrFjAcOr]

Graham has disappeared from Talksport lately....I wonder why. The guy is clueless

[@beasttitan8747]

Positive Liverpool will add 4 more this week.

[@TheKondinho]

It’s gonna be ugly

[@Andre-hm5vo]

It has to be double figures guys surely 🤣

[@shawncdonnelly]

Coaching Manchester United is like one night in Bangkok. It makes a hard man humble.

[@chriser555]

Graeme "I'll come back to it" Souness

[@caseyfalconer7347]

Why hasn’t he blamed Paul Pogba

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

@@caseyfalconer7347 He's giving the 5imping fanboiz a break this week to recover their emotions. Another massive meltdown last week. Two weeks in a row would just be cruel

[@westleymanc]

True that Graham, it cuts deep when it's L'pool

[@Andre-hm5vo]

I'm expecting double figures from Liverpool next week lol

[@jhpfdijtuiweruot]

Jim White could easily get a game for Utd next Monday night. We all could...

[@paul.c8693]

I agree with every word Simon is saying for the first time ever. He's bang on the money.

[@joscott6476]

As a Liverpool fan, I keep thinking that now they’ve got a taste of what it was like for us - it’s about time they realised that they’re not the Kingpin of the game -

[@marryan2872]

Yeah it's great. But hopefully they will beat liverpool because I despise your fans for the way they cant control there emotions. Subsequently smashing things up and blaming everyone else. Its dreadful. When you win you torture the rest if us with your vile behaviour as well.

[@martinaltoft7075]

I think you're being a touch harsh on us (I'm a Liverpool fan too).. Completely agree during the 30 years of no league that we had some bang average teams and players., but they never capitulated to the level that united have.. We tried, but just weren't good enough for the most part or fell just short in the time we were decent but came up against prime fergie, wenger and mourinho... Barring Gerrards last game away at Stoke, I don't think you can label us anywhere near as bad as this shower at united...

[@solskjaer1195]

You've won 1 league title in 32 years. That's not being back. That's just popping your head back up once in a generation.

[@Andre-hm5vo]

Liverpool have got to completely destroy Man United next Monday I'm talking double figures lol

[@solskjaer1195]

@@Andre-hm5vo And still won't win the league. Hahahaha

[@Gmoz79]

I like listening to Graeme. Speaks a lot of sense. A lot of Utd fans dismiss his comments as he's an ex Liverpool player. You can criticise the owners as much as you want, the manager picks those players and asks them to stick to his game plan. Regretting this appointment already. Shouldn't have fired Jose. He told us these problems years ago

[@MrNorthWales]

Blaming the manager again isn't what we should be doing! These players have threw countless managers under the bus

[@rohithraman6488]

Roy Keane called it ages ago. "The players who threw Mourinho under the bus, give it time and they will do the same to Ole. Leopards don't change their spots."

[@MrNorthWales]

@@rohithraman6488 yeh I seen that on sky sports retro the other day 🤦🏻‍♂️ nobody seems to want to learn from these mistakes at our club

[@ronalddacres9646]

The Manager Will Walk After 10 Games...

[@benmartin7708]

The fact he hasn’t brought in a mobile commanding CB he brought a 5ft 9 Argentine from the Dutch league is on ETH. Same as malacia he could prove a good player but on paper is he any better than telles just seems odd business. Desperately needed a CDM and still even now waiting on frenkie is borderline criminal. Needed a striker a mobile goal scoring forward and nothing looking at arnautovic it’s just laughable. But that side and tactics was dire against Brentford the players need to take th

[@Rabinfunk]

Lol how wrong are you

[@karldaniells6908]

If Utd beat Liverpool 1-0 next Monday then they will go above them! The situation is not ideal but any utd mgr will have to deal with this mayhem. Thank god we have ETH, he has a football philosophy, he can coach on the training ground and he looks a fighter who’s not going to give up. Pls don’t give up, ignore the FUD and the media, stick to your game plan and weed out asap which players are coming with you.

[@nickpope6870]

I don't know about Martinez, but you do not necessarily need to be tall to be a good center back. Just ask Fabio Cannavaro, Carles Puyol, and Franco Baresi.

[@catgladwell5684]

... and the great (dancing) Nobby Stiles, God rest him. he was a tiny genius in mid field.

[@Andy007400]

Wow, are you trying to compare an Ajax player to those 3 ???

[@nickpope6870]

@@Andy007400 No, I am not comparing at all; those three are absolute legends. Please read my comment above once again.

[@vikingfrog7204]

No but you need talent

[@olufemi42]

The premier league is different!! He should be moved to the CDM!! He’d be exceptional

[@DarioBrubeck]

Ladies and gents, the GREAT, Greame Souness....

[@Jonathan-yd8ud]

Manchester aren't even the biggest club in their own city never mind the world. Yesterday's men.

[@Andre-hm5vo]

Man United are small time now irrelevant club lol