Ally McCoist AGREES With Brendan Rodgers Who Says Celtic Would Be A TOP 6 Club In The PL! 👀🔥

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@PeasNburley
@PeasNburley 4 ай бұрын
It’s simple - there’s no guarantees at all as they could be mismanaged, but the size of the club(s) would ensure the pieces were in place to succeed
@MatthewPorteus-pi3me
@MatthewPorteus-pi3me 4 ай бұрын
The reason why they would compete is due to the finances the clubs would gain due to playing in the prem. Both clubs are massive and known worldwide. They both are very unique for both the right and wrong reasons however it attracts a lot of attention. Big players have said in the past how ibrox and parkhead have the best atmosphere on European nights so playing for them in the prem would be huge.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If they were massive clubs, they wouldn't need the English. The English Championship is the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest. If celtic and Rangers are so massive, how come the Championship is so much bigger?
@patrickmullins7981
@patrickmullins7981 4 ай бұрын
Fans in England dont understand how big Celtic and Rangers are. The 4 biggest clubs in Britain are United Liverpool Celtic and Rangers. Joe Hart is on record as saying he didnt understand that until he went up there. Ally is top class on co-comms 👏
@chrisfricker7025
@chrisfricker7025 4 ай бұрын
Celtic and rangers don't have that big of support, and besides that, that doesn't transcend onto the pitch does it?
@patrickmullins7981
@patrickmullins7981 4 ай бұрын
@Test-Tube-Baby-xo8xx just proving the point that you don't understand how big Celtic and Rangers are.
@hometownglory6025
@hometownglory6025 4 ай бұрын
​@Test-Tube-Baby-xo8xx behave yourself. Villa and Everton haven't won a trophy in 30 years. Newcastle it's been 70! Seventy years! Leeds are a small club knocking about the English second tier. None of these clubs can hold a candle to Celtic.
@tt99football56
@tt99football56 4 ай бұрын
​Put Celtic & Rangers up to at least 7 & 8th & that's closer to the reality. Newcastle is my English team, but they aren't bigger than Rangers & Celtic.​Put them in the PL& they make more money than the clubs I put them above.@Test-Tube-Baby-xo8xx
@patrickmullins7981
@patrickmullins7981 4 ай бұрын
@Test-Tube-Baby-xo8xx you should probably google clubs like Lyon Marseilles and Rennes to name just a few, there are huge football clubs in France .
@Sam-mi9wi
@Sam-mi9wi 4 ай бұрын
"Look at Scottish teams record in Europe against English teams" You mean how Scottish teams rarely lose against English teams in Europe. Those records...
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc 4 ай бұрын
Yeah plum head you talk for sevco celtic have a great record Liverpool beat man u beat Blackburn beat city drawn twice who's these English teams in last year's have beaten celtic we put a game on and win and drawn twice wae city ill crack the jokes dilluded twsts giruy champions again n. Again n again 😂😂 giruy hoops welcome anywhere best support in the world half of billion fans registered world wide amazing 😂😂
@simonhodgett7790
@simonhodgett7790 4 ай бұрын
​@@StephenMcinally-gr2ucthe majority of Celtic fans support their team because of religion IE Catholicism ! Considering the amount of Catholics in the world,it's not really a surprise is it !
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc 4 ай бұрын
Celtic record speak for sevco Liverpool 1,7 eventually 11,1 embarrassing Celtic have a better record against English teams n what they have us probably so you must be talking sevconian FC giruy
@michaelmalone3633
@michaelmalone3633 4 ай бұрын
The epl best league in the world but not one tea in Europe finals this season considering they get most of them into the group stages cl is boring mostly the same teams in the knockout stages it’s just a cash cow for these teams the super league with another name teams shouldn’t be in it if their not champions of their own league
@irishrebel1360
@irishrebel1360 Ай бұрын
@@Sam-mi9wi 5 yrs of premiership money, we'd need a 100 000 stadium ya walloper
@VamboMarbleEye
@VamboMarbleEye 4 ай бұрын
I’ll sum it up for all of the doubters. Celtic and Rangers have been to three uefa cup / Euopea league finals in 2000s. They’ve done this on peanuts, players costing 2 and 3 million pounds, you look athe English teams that have even struggled to compete at that level with squads worth close to a billion in value. The big club mentality really does take you places. With the additional finance and appeal, Celtic certainly would be at the right end of that league
@kiefermccuaig2047
@kiefermccuaig2047 4 ай бұрын
Celtics 2003 Seville team wasn’t built on peanuts. Sutton Lennon Hartson all costing 6 million +
@hometownglory6025
@hometownglory6025 4 ай бұрын
Facts are Celtic were still running at a fraction of English clubs budget two of which we beat on the way to the final and operating entirely within our means (same can't be said of Rangers). Viduka sale/Sutton signing cancelled eachother out. We also signed players for ridiculously cheap or free. Petta free, Bobo free, Agathe 50k, Lubo 350k, Larsson 650k.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
@@hometownglory6025 If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest?
@PhantomOverlordX2
@PhantomOverlordX2 4 ай бұрын
The difference is the competition. No disrespect to the Scottish league, but the matches would be a lot HARDER than they're used to. Yes, they might adapt over time, but to suggest they'd get top 6 is a big ridiculous.
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
Why? Villa and spurs are top 6 and bang average.
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
@WetLettuce-kc2qm My point was villa and spurs arent any better than celtic and once celtic were in the EPL celtic wouldnt be losing their best players to thses clubs and would be able to build a team to ecplise them.
@chrisfricker7025
@chrisfricker7025 4 ай бұрын
​@@jackjones1249villa and spurs would batter celtic😂😂 you have to be the most deluded fanbase in world football
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
@@chrisfricker7025 Villa and Spurs wouldn't batter anyone😂. Villa got spanked by the 4th best team in Greece😂.
@danny..10565
@danny..10565 4 ай бұрын
@WetLettuce-kc2qm olimpiacos 6 2
@rosshaugh7937
@rosshaugh7937 4 ай бұрын
Andy doesn't like the fact that Celtic side with the Palestinians. I wonder why..
@Brown87
@Brown87 4 ай бұрын
You'd be surprised at how many Rangers fans are on the Palestinian side 💙 I'm one of many 🇬🇧🇵🇸🇬🇧
@pjoseph5950
@pjoseph5950 4 ай бұрын
Rangers support 🇬🇧🇮🇱
@rosshaugh7937
@rosshaugh7937 4 ай бұрын
@@Brown87 good for you ✊
@Brown87
@Brown87 4 ай бұрын
@@pjoseph5950 Some Rangers fans do, but some don't; I also know several Celtic fans who are very heavily on the Israeli side 😐
@Brown87
@Brown87 4 ай бұрын
@@rosshaugh7937 ❤️
@hoggybhoy1967
@hoggybhoy1967 4 ай бұрын
Celtic in the PL for the last 5 years would have a 100k+ stadium.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
So you need the English to make you a big club.
@Epsilon04
@Epsilon04 4 ай бұрын
“With Premier League money we’d be top six” people forget that Liverpool, Arsenal and now United have all spent time outside the top six in the pl era. Size is meaningless in English football, Celtic fans acting as if increased revenue would guarantee them a cakewalk into the top six is misguided.
@mikeydoc11
@mikeydoc11 4 ай бұрын
All those clubs have finished outside the top 6, United finished 8th this year and yet people still consider United, City, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs the “top 6”. It’s about where you’d finish most of the time and also the stature of the club.
@shakalaka1477
@shakalaka1477 4 ай бұрын
celtic is a very well run club tbf.. typically producing results above their means.. in the EPL they would be a force within a few years. i ma United fan but celtic in the prem would be crazy.. their fanbase amazing stadium would be top 5 in the league.. celtic far bigger than newcastle and villa
@BarryBull-mv5no
@BarryBull-mv5no 4 ай бұрын
It would be done cause if celtic came down would be biggest club with most following around world than any other club in english prem ..
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs with a massive fanbase: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest?
@rickyraw5457
@rickyraw5457 4 ай бұрын
Brendan Rodgers will never find out....🤣🤣🤣🤣
@davekerr86
@davekerr86 4 ай бұрын
What they have is millions of fans across the world and they would fill out every away end and their home games the size of these clubs compared to all but 2 epl teams is the difference
@Mewtwosmrmime
@Mewtwosmrmime 3 ай бұрын
@BashingOnesBishop-nu3ec Funny how Spurs and United are the only 2 in the UK with higher average attendances...
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest? Reply
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
@@Mewtwosmrmime Every Celtic game I watch shows about 25k empty green seats. Average attendances: West Ham: 62,440 Arsenal: 60,191 Now that Anfield is bigger than Celtic Park the average attendances will be bigger. Same goes for City and Newcastle and Chelsea when they expand. Man Utd are building a 100k plus stadium. I hear celtic are planning a stadium reduction. Maybe a 30k ground so you can fill it once in a while.
@richardmorgan3647
@richardmorgan3647 4 ай бұрын
Theey would have the biggest attendances in league 1
@WeAreThePeople1690
@WeAreThePeople1690 4 ай бұрын
@Tearsofaclown01 Man Utd Newcastle and Spurs would have more seats, but I agree both clubs wouldn't be long competing for trophies, given the same money. They know that, and that's why it won't happen. Only way we will have any chance now, is with a european super league whenever that happens.
@Invernaewhere
@Invernaewhere Ай бұрын
If it ever happened both Celtic and rangers would thrive given time. The fan base worldwide for both clubs is huge I think that’s what the English media don’t understand. Hypothetically if Celtic and rangers were playing Man Utd Liverpool Arsenal Man City etc they could build 100.000 + stadiums and both would get filled week in week out
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If the fanbase is so massive, why do they need the English?
@rigsby1454
@rigsby1454 4 ай бұрын
The thing is the size of the club is huge. If it was in England the money + fanbase would mean their money would be huge.
@darreno2428
@darreno2428 4 ай бұрын
But if it were in England then it wouldn't have got so huge. 🤷‍♂️
@sacred1827
@sacred1827 4 ай бұрын
@@darreno2428 That isn't the question though. Nobody is saying "if Glasgow was in England, after 100+ years of football would their clubs be so established?" It's a question of whether if you put them in now they would compete. I think they'd have a good chance, but it's a very short and boring debate because it won't happen
@johncopeland3826
@johncopeland3826 3 ай бұрын
Super Swally was out gardening at the time ...lots of lovely late spring clement weather !
@Bothaboiz
@Bothaboiz 4 ай бұрын
What Ally should’ve pointed out is that the atmosphere that would be generated in the Prem week-in-week-out by the Celtic and Rangers fanbases would be unrivalled and hugely effective. Both teams could add at least 30K seats to their already large stadiums and still fill them. The passion, colour, and noise, (combined with exponentially increased finances) would elevate Celtic and Rangers above other similar level teams. It would also lead to a higher calibre of player choosing the Old Firm over other teams who can offer similar wages.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
And you think England would welcome an English hating club like celtic with open arms? You think they'd love to hear vile chants about the death of Lee Rigby and the nasty pro IRA songs do you?
@joelmacinnes2391
@joelmacinnes2391 4 ай бұрын
Guy in the middle is a clown
@ryanc8123
@ryanc8123 4 ай бұрын
Celtic and Rangers fans have a winning mentality and demand the team to win. This alone would drive the team further than a Crystal Palace or Everton.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
Celtic and Rangers have a false sense of scale. If Everton and Palace only had to beat Kilmarnock, Ross County, Livingstone and Morton to win silverware every year, they'd probably be as deluded as celtic and Rangers.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest?
@theantiauthoritarian.1540
@theantiauthoritarian.1540 4 ай бұрын
Ally, please stop talking BS!!! Everytime they play in Europe they get absolutely HUMPED so what makes them think they'd be in top 6 in the Best league in Europe!!🤔🙄. Also, they would be in the 2ND Division first of all.
@bunkaiking
@bunkaiking 4 ай бұрын
Rodgers doesn't believe it. He's playing to the fans like he always does!
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc 4 ай бұрын
That's why Mr clemprick can't say nothing then cos they would laugh then imagine it we want to come down n challenge English premier listen it was celtic were talking about FFS sevco got beat wae county n Dundee n hearts and Motherwell n Aberdeen n Kilmarnock and everyone one else then we would see it as a joke😂😂
@GAMING-CELT
@GAMING-CELT 4 ай бұрын
A person called Goldstein not liking Celtic surprise surprise
@gavinmitchell4477
@gavinmitchell4477 4 ай бұрын
Top 6 in championship at a push.
@frankycaraher3535
@frankycaraher3535 4 ай бұрын
If Celtic and rangers went to England they would do well because they would attract a better quality of player how many top players have said they would love to play for Celtic or rangers and they would sign if both were in the premiership
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
So they don't want to play for Celtic or Rangers, they want to play in England. That's the difference.
@Stu.6
@Stu.6 17 күн бұрын
In his dreams yea 😂
@4857i
@4857i 4 ай бұрын
Well if they brought brendan rodgers with them they’d also concede shed loads of goals in the prem so maybe top 8
@josephmcgonigle880
@josephmcgonigle880 4 ай бұрын
It's a pointless argument it's never going to happen
@Openmind.83
@Openmind.83 4 ай бұрын
Celtic wouldn't get out of the championship!!
@peterfenwick5555
@peterfenwick5555 4 ай бұрын
Big fish in small ponds 90 % of Prem teams have massive support and great histories plus the further North you go in England the harder it is to attract the best players so I can't see many wives or girlfriends ( who always have the final say ) wanting to freeze to death in a Glasgow winter .I also think the fans would hate it, Celtic and Rangers fans have grown up winning trophies season after season so I'm not sure if fighting for a top ten finish every year would be what they would want.
@wardie8929
@wardie8929 4 ай бұрын
Celtic and Rangers have a bigger pull if they played in Premier League...Spurs ? Aston Villa? Or Rangers or Celtic I know where players would sign. 4 big clubs in Britain.... Man U, Liverpool ,Celtic and Rangers no one comes close to our fanbases
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest?
@rigsby1454
@rigsby1454 4 ай бұрын
I think Goldstein is taking 'top six' far too literally
@MarkMcD17
@MarkMcD17 4 ай бұрын
Its would never happen and this wouldn't guarantee it but your ex English international player is sitting infront of you telling you the reason that if it was a level playing field he would pick celtic to play for
@wullieman
@wullieman 4 ай бұрын
Scottish teams against English in Europe. Look up Celtic man. 🤣🤣
@jboyle4832
@jboyle4832 4 ай бұрын
Fans would demand it like your international team English little clubs season ticket sales alone show you that we are giants
@michaelmalone3633
@michaelmalone3633 4 ай бұрын
They tried to get a Great Britain team for the olympics and Scotland wales and Ireland rejected it because it gave the Asian countries an argument for it being only 1 team from Britain being in the World Cup and euros
@lagofala
@lagofala 4 ай бұрын
Top 6 in shots faced probably.
@kiefermccuaig2047
@kiefermccuaig2047 4 ай бұрын
West coast well said ally bhoy
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
REALITY CHECK FOR ALL CELTIC FANS: 1) If Celtic had a global fanbase they wouldn't need the EPL. They'd be generating their own Sky income via the millions of fans paying to watch the SPL. 2) La Liga has 2 big clubs & they're the 2nd biggest league in the world. The Germans have 2 big teams, the French only have 1 and yet both are among the biggest leagues in the world. If Scotland had 2 giant clubs they'd also have one of the biggest leagues in the world. 3) Celtic supporters clubs are tiny. Without exception they are just a few dozen ex pats in each club. They amount to a few thousand fans. Big clubs measure their fans in millions not dozens. 4) Irish bars aren't Celtic bars 5) When you played Sydney in Australia, Celtic expected to cash in on Ange's popularity but the stadium was practically empty. 6) Celtic Park is littered with empty green seats. You can only fill your ground when you play Rangers and European clubs 7) The 1960s are half a century ago 8) Celtic don't feature in the list of best selling replica kits globally. Fans buy kits. 9) Celtic don't feature on any surveys to find the biggest clubs in the world 10) As much as you want to be English, you will always remain Palestinian. 11) No other club has to resort to paying confused Thai children to support them in order to try and generate a global fanbase. 12) Celtic, a club like no other......thank God! One's more than enough.
@McConnachy
@McConnachy 4 ай бұрын
The only reason, Rangers and Celtic may want to be in the English leagues is money, Scottish clubs get 0.01% of the cash England gets, and that's why they cant compete against English clubs in Europe. the bubble may burst in England, they get billions to show case the worlds best players.
@maxjosh10
@maxjosh10 3 ай бұрын
chris doesnt get it at all.
@BarkingMadLad
@BarkingMadLad 4 ай бұрын
There's less people in Scotland than Yorkshire 😀
@davidlafferty8414
@davidlafferty8414 4 ай бұрын
Yes there are more people in Yorkshire, but you have absolutely no idea how big Celtic are, so here’s a little bit of information for you. Every year Celtic sell 55,000 season ticket and the waiting list is around 30,000, how many clubs in England have 55,000 season ticket holders ? Celtic have said that if they ever play in England or a European league comes they will increase the stadium capacity up to 83,000, at the moment no club in England has a stadium this big. There are around 680 Celtic supporters clubs around the world. There are more Celtic supporters clubs in London than Chelsea have, or Tottenham have. I live in Alicante, Spain and there are 5 “PROPER” Celtic supporters clubs within 25 minutes drive of each other. I can’t find one single English supporters club. Did you not know that Celtic hold the record attendances for every competition in Europe, so it doesn’t matter the population of Scotland. Scottish cup final 147,000. European cup 136,000. Scottish league game 118,000. Biggest travelling support in World Sport.
@sbc1t
@sbc1t 4 ай бұрын
The last Scotsman to leave Yorkshire .. Sacked the place 🤣
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
@@davidlafferty8414 1) Celtic's season ticket figure is bogus. Celtic Park is always half empty. Fans only turn up if they play Rangers or a European team 2) Celtic say they would increase Celtic park to 80k if they played in England? So they're saying they can be a big club without the English 3) Supporters clubs are numbered in dozens. Google them 7 you will see each club is just a couple of dozen ex pats. there are 80 Celtic supporters clubs in the USA meaning there are about 2000 Celtic fans in America. That's peanuts. The big clubs measure their global fanbase in millions not dozens 4) The Celtic supporters clubs are just Scottish ex pats. Why would Chelsea and Spurs fans need a supporters club in London when they live there? 5) Those record attendance figures are bogus. Who compiled them? We're talking about half a century ago. Crowds figures weren't documented 6) When Celtic play in a final the whole of scotland supports them because it's like their world cup final. As I said before, celtic Park is always half empty at bread and butter games
@davidlafferty8414
@davidlafferty8414 4 ай бұрын
@WetLettuce-kc2qm yes and that shows you how smart they are 👍
@davidlafferty8414
@davidlafferty8414 4 ай бұрын
@WetLettuce-kc2qm the only reason Man City win the Premier league is because they also have too much money. You will find all across the world most leagues are won by their richest clubs.
@tommcmanamon8327
@tommcmanamon8327 4 ай бұрын
Playing Ross County 4 times a year is the SPL standard.
@hometownglory6025
@hometownglory6025 4 ай бұрын
Bournemouth & Luton support not too dissimilar in terms of size. "Best league in the world" and the pair of them are barley clearing 10k every other week, a fair chunk of them tourists I'd hazard to guess as well.
@tommcmanamon8327
@tommcmanamon8327 4 ай бұрын
@@hometownglory6025 I agree that those teams mentioned have a low attendance. Luton however are relegated and will be replaced by Leicester, Southampton and Ipswich ALL have attendances over 28000. That would make the 3,4 and 5 in the SPL. I am not knocking Ross County although they have lower attendances than 15 ! EFL 2 league reams.
@SlipySama
@SlipySama 3 ай бұрын
First British club to win the European cup. I don't mean to be rude but all clubs have history. haha what an absolute tadger no other club can ever claim that piece of history except us.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
No other club cares.
@stevenduvall9590
@stevenduvall9590 4 ай бұрын
That doncaster fan is absolute clueless😂😂😂
@aero2507
@aero2507 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone watch the epl? I do. The football standard in the lower half is utter mince. The current celtic team would take points off a lot of those sides. With the epl money celtic would easily be challenging for top 6 in a few years.
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
Comedy gold 🤣
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest? Reply
@seeteasea5497
@seeteasea5497 4 ай бұрын
Celtic have a massive fan base that would translate to big sponsorship deals and add that to the TV money means that with FFP, Celtic would have much more spending power than most EPL teams. Taking what the team does now with the limited income they have in Scotland is ridiculous
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
If Celtic have such a big fanbase, why do they need the EPL? Why aren't you generating your own massive income via the global fanbase?
@seeteasea5497
@seeteasea5497 4 ай бұрын
@@johntate5050 It’s not “if” it’s a fact that you can look up. Celtic don’t have access to the TV money that England and the other big leagues have access to limits the income. Celtic have to cut their cloth accordingly to the income for the SPFL which is around £2m per year compared to the teams relegated from the EPL that get over £100m. That’s where the disparity comes in. You put Celtic and Rangers into the EPL and watch top players go to them purely to play in the derby and if they could match the wages of the English teams players would flock there. 60,000 fans in Celtic park every week to watch them play St Mirren when Manchester City can’t fill their stadium for a historic 4th title in a row should tell you a lot.
@chrisfricker7025
@chrisfricker7025 4 ай бұрын
If celtic were that big more people wpuld watch, the reason they don't is because they aren't that big outside of Scotland
@seeteasea5497
@seeteasea5497 4 ай бұрын
@@chrisfricker7025 look it up
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
@@seeteasea5497 If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest?
@Jason-ly9zv
@Jason-ly9zv 4 ай бұрын
It’ll never happen but if it did the financial backing with the fan base and history celtic have …it’s a no brainier they would be top 6 every year. People look at the hypothetical under the basis Celtic walk into the prem with the team they have now. Get real…not one team in the PL have the same team year on year. Money changes everything…. Except a loyal world wide fan base. Sorry Man City.
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
The biggest club in the UK have just finished in 8th place yet you claim Celtic would be guaranteed top 6 every season. That's why everyone laughs at Celtic fans.
@shanedavidbester4430
@shanedavidbester4430 4 ай бұрын
You tell me the same manager that took a winning epl team Leicester City to the bottom half of the log Prime Liverpool he could do nothing with that team Ucl I never saw Celtic in semi/quarter final
@Glen38
@Glen38 4 ай бұрын
A few years in the league yes maybe but if they just joined tomorow they would struggle.
@reo41527
@reo41527 4 ай бұрын
Remember man city v Gillingham in a pen shoot out...then got prem...then got all the blood money and pep...Sheffield United down with 100mil pay off...finances r the only difference-bent was right. Level playing field who is choosing Brighton over celtic?
@ianfitton9400
@ianfitton9400 4 ай бұрын
its always been a legitimate debate that with the financial opportunities and attractive proposition for big money investment from a takeover that either old firm team would be a threat to the established order in the premier league and that is probably why it will never happen
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic and Rangers are so big with this supposed global fanbase, why do they need the English?
@ianfitton9400
@ianfitton9400 Ай бұрын
@@FalseTeeth-o4y because in the Scottish league they can't grow beyond that ceiling,but in a bigger market with more financial opportunities and media coverage it would be a different prospect
@chrismiller6317
@chrismiller6317 4 ай бұрын
Absolutely no chance of being top 6 they would have had struggled in the Henrik Larsson era
@shanemulcahy109
@shanemulcahy109 4 ай бұрын
That's why they spanked Liverpool and Blackburn in 2003 in their own backyard 😊😊😊😊
@pascalpitchen3219
@pascalpitchen3219 4 ай бұрын
It’s an annoying predictable boring topic year after year for something that 100% will never happen.
@PeteandJan01
@PeteandJan01 4 ай бұрын
No way middle at best
@JohnBhoy-ue4fk
@JohnBhoy-ue4fk 4 ай бұрын
The EPL without Sky or investment from Sheiks and such would be nowhere near as big, popular and attractive and only better than the SPL due to population of towns and cities. It’s almost like a host country. Still no Englishman has managed a team to the EPL title. 2 Scot’s have 🤔
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
Have a guess why investors invest. Go on...have a stab at it.
@Kevinb2510
@Kevinb2510 4 ай бұрын
Virgil Van Dijk, Victor Wanyama, Joe Ledley, Odsonne Edouard, Moussa Dembele, Kristoffer Ajer,Ryan Christie,Fraser Forster,Kieran Tierney,Stuart Armstrong,Beram Kayal, Garry Hooper, Ki Sung young, would all of those players have left Celtic if they were playing in the English Premier League
@declanhooper2255
@declanhooper2255 4 ай бұрын
Yeah and only one of them has been a regular starter in a top 6 side....
@darreno2428
@darreno2428 4 ай бұрын
You needed to stop at Van Djik and he had to live to a lower level Premier league club to actually progress.
@darreno2428
@darreno2428 4 ай бұрын
@@michaelmclaughlin7235 so you're admitting he got better at Southampton if he only looked as good at Southampton while playing against player lightyears ahead of the competition he faced in the SPL.
@alanmcneill1800
@alanmcneill1800 4 ай бұрын
Martin O’Neill and Alex mcleishs old firm teams yes not now
@weescottishguy8950
@weescottishguy8950 4 ай бұрын
Even the Smith and Strachan teams at a push.
@dash1141
@dash1141 4 ай бұрын
Super Ally is super steaming 🍻🫡❤
@FirstnameLastname-yx8cy
@FirstnameLastname-yx8cy 4 ай бұрын
Celtic wouldn't get relegated in the English Premier league, they would stay up
@simonhartung3683
@simonhartung3683 4 ай бұрын
It was a good pass aswel lol
@xlewybx1586
@xlewybx1586 4 ай бұрын
Hibs got battered by villa both legs so im not convinced by any Scottish team
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
Hibs are shocking and sacked two managers ffs.
@bugzystalone8915
@bugzystalone8915 4 ай бұрын
Villa reserves 2nd leg
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
@@bugzystalone8915 Villa got battered 6-2 from Olympiacos which proves how over rated the EPL is despite spending obsecene amounts of money.
@rwbranger62
@rwbranger62 4 ай бұрын
Fan base from both clubs is far bigger globally than most teams in England bar Liverpool, man utd etc . That means with that support naturally already there it would be easy for a buyer for each club and on a level footing being player I think they would in a few years be up in top 6 . No point judging the teams that are playing in Scotland as that would all change when in England. With the fan base these clubs have it would put most tourist clubs in England to shame .
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
So how come Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and City (along with United and Liverpool) are all in the list of clubs who sell most shirts globally whereas Celtic and Rangers aren't? Fans but replica shirts.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If Celtic & Rangers are massive clubs: 1) Why do they need the English? Why isn't their 'massive global fanbase' already buying merchandise that puts them in the top 10 in the world alongside the big clubs? 2) Why aren't Sky investing massively in the SPL to make a profit? Sky go where there's money to be made. Sky don't generate any money, they use money the clubs generate via fans paying to watch the games. 3) Why isn't the SPL bigger than Ligue 1 that only has one big club (PSG) and equal to La Liga that has 2 (Real and Barca.)? 4) Why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest? Reply
@PhilEllis-gv3en
@PhilEllis-gv3en 4 ай бұрын
Lol definitely not haha they would struggle in the championship so would rangers piss off
@rightredman
@rightredman 4 ай бұрын
Boor off 😂😂😂
@kevinmillar1122
@kevinmillar1122 4 ай бұрын
I would love to see Celtic in the PL when they finish 18th their fans would make great memes 🤣🤣
@DavidBroadley-tw7ks
@DavidBroadley-tw7ks 4 ай бұрын
What team do u support
@hugobossman1509
@hugobossman1509 4 ай бұрын
Nobody wants Celtic coming here and it’s got nothing to do with football.
@michaelmccreery8192
@michaelmccreery8192 4 ай бұрын
If it’s history you’re talking about, only 1 winner in that debate 1 man 1 vote biggest game changer ever.
@chrisd3211
@chrisd3211 4 ай бұрын
Celtic doesn’t wanna come to your monopoly league most fans would rather fix our own league rather than abandon it
@lorcanfeely6371
@lorcanfeely6371 Ай бұрын
Nobody? 👋
@joemacfarlane4721
@joemacfarlane4721 Ай бұрын
Your hair afraid of being turned over by a wee Scottish team 😂😂😂
@stephensmith2302
@stephensmith2302 4 ай бұрын
Celtic have 10,000+ waiting list for season tickets in 60,000 stadium in piss poor league with no money. Would instantly need 85,000+ stadium overnight. Fans all over the world. Billionaire Celtic fan owner not oil money. Plus a historical winning mentality. That's why. Ask Ange.
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
Celtic Park is always 40% empty green seats
@christinewilson2348
@christinewilson2348 4 ай бұрын
9
@irishrebel1360
@irishrebel1360 3 ай бұрын
We are bigger than most , maybe man u apart. 5 years we would take over simples hh
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
If you're that big, why is the English Championship the 7th biggest league in the world whereas the SPL is 29th biggest? I can't wait to hear your excuse.
@bugzystalone8915
@bugzystalone8915 4 ай бұрын
Rangers and celtic only have a massive fan base due to religious beliefs...take that out and they would b the size of ross county
@Big-Campbell
@Big-Campbell 4 ай бұрын
If Rangers and Celtic were to enter the EPL they’d be deluged by American and Arab billionaires looking for a piece of that action.
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
so that proves it's the English league that's big, not Celtic or Rangers.
@mattjones1776
@mattjones1776 4 ай бұрын
I'm English and I agree with Benty and Ally. I'm 44 and since I was at school, have wanted Celtic and Rangers to play in the English leagues.
@willmunda403
@willmunda403 4 ай бұрын
That will kill the Scottish league. I can tell you’re English.
@braingers
@braingers 4 ай бұрын
England are scared to have the old firm in their league!
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
Rangers 1 - Liverpool 7. Yeah they're absolutely shitting themselves 🤣
@braingers
@braingers 4 ай бұрын
@@johntate5050 yes but comparing them now is something idiots would do.
@joshhenry2389
@joshhenry2389 4 ай бұрын
Why are they not in the PL? I’ve never understood seen as Welsh sides have been in the past
@aero2507
@aero2507 4 ай бұрын
Mind when the English champions played celtic twice and drew both games? Surely celtic should have been swept aside being of such a poor standard. We played wolves in pre season and out played them majority of the game The English are delusional
@bugzystalone8915
@bugzystalone8915 4 ай бұрын
Didn't you get pumped by west ham in a pre season... 6 2 was it
@briggm
@briggm 4 ай бұрын
​@@bugzystalone8915Yep, in Postecoglou's 2nd or 3rd game when he was implementing an entirely new system. Not that friendlies mean much, but the next preseason Celtic drew with Everton (after dominating the play) and beat Norwich.
@bugzystalone8915
@bugzystalone8915 4 ай бұрын
@briggm well I want to be the 1st to congratulate celtic on your 2 draws cup against city 8 years ago with no pep, and your amazing results against Everton and wolves reserves at celtic Park....
@briggm
@briggm 4 ай бұрын
@@bugzystalone8915 Thank you 🙏
@GingerManWithACam
@GingerManWithACam 4 ай бұрын
Who would you rather live next to, Andy or Ally?
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
Andy.
@neilmcgilligan2695
@neilmcgilligan2695 4 ай бұрын
EPL is so overated.
@martinokane4512
@martinokane4512 4 ай бұрын
Sam get a grip , where are the English teams in the PL , No disrespect to English players but not many in the top 6 teams.
@Azzi_0161
@Azzi_0161 4 ай бұрын
Celtic wouldn't even survive in the prem
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 4 ай бұрын
or the national league
@Pd-PaddyDonnelly
@Pd-PaddyDonnelly 4 ай бұрын
Your man’s rite tho a few years time weere buid our bank up of wee went down to the premier league the Arabs woukd come calling 🤑🤑🤑🤑
@Thetruthteller-s8i
@Thetruthteller-s8i 4 ай бұрын
I youse to see you at shawfeild at the dogs and at shawlands Mr Ds
@habbinlad1
@habbinlad1 4 ай бұрын
Utter nonsense. He remains one of the biggest and overrated whoppers in punditry.
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
Celtic would stroll into the top 6. The EPL have 3 or 4 good teams and the rest are all of the same level.
@darreno2428
@darreno2428 4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂Celtic would stroll straight in to the championship pal. It's not like playing Ross County 4 times a season. They couldn't handle the pressure of having to actually compete in every single game. Although the novelty will see them do well at first, you know actually playing against decent teams, once that wore off they'd get embarrassed on a weekly basis.
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
@@darreno2428 Villa finsihed 4th and got banjoed 6-2 from Olympiacos🤣. Outside the top 3 teams the rest of the league is very average tbh. Celtic have to handle the pressure of winning every game in the Spl, losing two games in a row is a travesty, so competing against teams like villa and spurs who never win anything would be a walk in the park. With the extra money they would be able to attract better players and the likes of mcginn, robertson, van dyjk wouldnt be leaving to english teams.
@Cornwall1888
@Cornwall1888 4 ай бұрын
@@jackjones1249 if the Celtic players were good enough to finish 6th other English premier league teams would buy them for relatively cheap
@darreno2428
@darreno2428 4 ай бұрын
@@jackjones1249 the SPL is about as competitive as league 1, at best, in England I'd even go as far as saying about 4/5 of the SPL teams would struggle in the English non league tier. Pressure to beat those teams is nothing compared to actually having to fight for wins week in week out. They'd get absolutely embarrassed in the EPL.
@jackjones1249
@jackjones1249 4 ай бұрын
@@darreno2428 Ross county have as much chance as winning the SPL as burnley or wolves winning the EPL. All leagues are dominated by a couple of teams. We arent talking about the rest of the SPL we are only talking about celtic. And celtic are as good as vila, spurs, west ham etc and if they were in the EPL they would attract players that normally go to theses EPL teams. Teams like Atalanta and Olympiacos put EPL teams out of europe, so stop maing out the EPL is filled with quailty.
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 4 ай бұрын
SCOTTISH BITTER IS THE BEST BITTER🤣🤣🤣
@welshhibby
@welshhibby 4 ай бұрын
Celtic are league 1 standard
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 4 ай бұрын
u give them too much credit
@brawrecords
@brawrecords 4 ай бұрын
Youve completely missed the point.
@THEOBOTS
@THEOBOTS 4 ай бұрын
“League 1” teams don’t play in the Champions League kid😘
@L1am21
@L1am21 4 ай бұрын
Celtic dont play in the champions league they turn up and lose.
@THEOBOTS
@THEOBOTS 4 ай бұрын
@@L1am21 but the won their last match in the champions league kid😘😘😘😘
@twindigo
@twindigo 4 ай бұрын
If Celtic came south after a few years of PL size investment coming in they would be top 6. They would attract more investment than 14-15 of the PL clubs easily because of their history and massive world wide appeal. They are supported by a country ffs, Ireland has a ridiculous amount of Celtic fans.
@paulmccarthy6663
@paulmccarthy6663 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. Massive club, big brand, a few years in and they’d be up there. In terms of the quality of the current team, they’d finish bottom 6
@ian_r125
@ian_r125 4 ай бұрын
If they were as big as you think, they would already have these huge sums of money
@L1am21
@L1am21 4 ай бұрын
If they so well supported the why hasnt 1 or a group of very wealthy Scott's or Irish bought them and made them compete in Europe?
@planetebeautecali4485
@planetebeautecali4485 4 ай бұрын
Top 6? Celtic may be big in Britain but globally they're non existent so unless they have rich Owners they'll be nowhere near the Top 6.
@weescottishguy8950
@weescottishguy8950 4 ай бұрын
As a Rangers fan, you couldn't be more wrong. Both sides are more supported than most of the EPL around the world.
@L1am21
@L1am21 4 ай бұрын
Having a few sweaty socks round tenerife dont mean your well supported around the world.
@lonsdaleslipons9570
@lonsdaleslipons9570 4 ай бұрын
I think most English dont understand that old firm fans demand nothing but success. And we wouldnt change in England
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
How has all your demanding worked out for you in Europe?
@ForeverEngland76
@ForeverEngland76 3 ай бұрын
Lol
@justablokepostingfunvids7137
@justablokepostingfunvids7137 4 ай бұрын
The epl clubs the spfl TV money and see how they'd do so city get 2 million for winning the league......... Yeah pay haaland with that 😂 most English fans are clowns honestly
@FalseTeeth-o4y
@FalseTeeth-o4y Ай бұрын
City attract a global audience, Celtic and Rangers don't. it's a fact.
@justablokepostingfunvids7137
@justablokepostingfunvids7137 Ай бұрын
@@FalseTeeth-o4y actually incorrect celtic and rangers ha e massive audiences all over the globe and a supporters club in nearly every city anywhere..... Let's be honest city we're nothing till oil money
@kol9382
@kol9382 4 ай бұрын
This debate has triggered and highlighted how insecure the English really are about their over hyped league and teams.
@kol9382
@kol9382 4 ай бұрын
@@Blaze26909 yup, thanks for proving my point mate 👍
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 4 ай бұрын
its okay kid i just need to look at the value of all the tv deals arounf the world and the viewing figures to know you are coping hard👍
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
it's actually highlighted the ignorance and arrogance of Celtic fans who think they'd walk into the biggest league in the world after playing pub teams for 100 years and dominate it.
@LewisMonk-zf5fp
@LewisMonk-zf5fp 4 ай бұрын
To many jocks on talkSPORT talking rubbish
@stevenduvall9590
@stevenduvall9590 4 ай бұрын
Goldstein on about manu not making top 6! Theres a reason for that and that is because they cant attract the worlds best players anymore plus most fans are tourists. The sradium is a shambles aswell😂😂
@tonailhull4459
@tonailhull4459 4 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@jamesh8672
@jamesh8672 4 ай бұрын
You cannot compare everton to Celtic 😂😂😂😂
@lennon1482
@lennon1482 4 ай бұрын
I know everton are well bigger
@jamesh8672
@jamesh8672 4 ай бұрын
Are they. **** 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂💚🍀 bigger league yes bigger club naw 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 4 ай бұрын
u arent even bigger than preston😂😂😂😂ure last batch was some strong stuff lad
@brianyoungson
@brianyoungson 4 ай бұрын
It's not rocket science, celtic is global club like man utd and Liverpool. Celtic in epl wud raise stadium from 60 000 to 80 000 and sell it out week in week out. With epl finances celtic be a major force in England. Fact!
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
But they can't fill a 60k stadium in the SPL. Hilarious that English hating celtic need the English to make them a big club 🤣
@kentgrady9226
@kentgrady9226 4 ай бұрын
For a non-Brit like myself, the very notion of the segregation between Scottish football and English football is bizarre. One passport, one head of state, one head of government, one currency, one island (sorry, but for argumentative purposes, I'm discounting the .0001 of the population who live off the British mainland), but two leagues?!? The English FA isn't even entirely English, as it comprises Welsh clubs as well. For reasons which simply do not satisfy anyone of rational and impartial intellect, it is fine to include the Welsh, but exclude the Scots. It's nonsense. The historian in me chooses to believe the reason lies, at least subconsciously, in the relative degree of Welsh compliance with England, versus Scottish opposition to England. If it were to happen (it won't, I would wager), English fans would have to concede that Celtic and Rangers have too many resources, too much support, and too much to offer as proud historic clubs, to make them start at the very bottom - non league. On the other hand, Celtic and Rangers fans have to concede that they are in fact well behind the top flight English clubs, as well as much of the Championship. I think making them start in League One is a fair compromise. In a hypothetical alternate universe in which that were to happen, I can see one club or the other (more likely Celtic, given greater success in the last 20-25 years) eventually rising to Top Six status.
@johntate5050
@johntate5050 4 ай бұрын
The Welsh clubs didn't abandon a Welsh league to join the English league. they were invited to play in the English league when 100 years ago because there wasn't a Welsh league. And if the biggest club in the UK man Utd finished 8th, why would the smaller celtic finish top 6?
@Blaze26909
@Blaze26909 4 ай бұрын
all the junkie jocks crying 🤣🤣🤣
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc
@StephenMcinally-gr2uc 4 ай бұрын
We would because ill tell you why there a lit ov players who would want to play for Celtic look at Celtic record against English teams pumped them man city couldn't beat us we pumped Liverpool Blackburn and man uts leeds man city twice dont judge us on sevcoz record weve competed we'll wae english teams thank you😂😂 giruy English teats
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