🔥 "PEOPLE LIKE YOU CAUSED VAR!!" 😡 Simon, Danny & Jim GO OFF!

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@RiyadhCurrie
@RiyadhCurrie Жыл бұрын
Jim, the only person who will ask 50 questions and not allow the person to respond.
@jsuswaram
@jsuswaram Жыл бұрын
😂
@daneholding
@daneholding Жыл бұрын
He needs to pipe down and listen more
@smitherinho1753
@smitherinho1753 Жыл бұрын
Seems so out of touch and when people don’t agree with him, he doesn’t let them respond or explain and then just goes “nope you’re wrong”
@temporaryuseraccount0012
@temporaryuseraccount0012 Жыл бұрын
Wind up merchant.
@CrowTails88
@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын
Jim was the biggest fan boi to bring it in , 🤡🤡🤡
@deeppocketsshortarms2830
@deeppocketsshortarms2830 Жыл бұрын
Jim White slowly becoming Piers Morgan at talksport.
@asherneyland8950
@asherneyland8950 Жыл бұрын
Piers can make his own arguments, Simon makes Jim’s
@deeppocketsshortarms2830
@deeppocketsshortarms2830 Жыл бұрын
@Asher Neyland yeah true I'm thinking about adjetating every one who's in studio with him
@asherneyland8950
@asherneyland8950 Жыл бұрын
@@deeppocketsshortarms2830 ye true, he’s a bit spineless he sides with whatever SJ says
@ElizabethTurver
@ElizabethTurver Жыл бұрын
Such an annoying man.
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 Жыл бұрын
Turtleneck Piers. Wanna-be Ten Haag/Pep
@gooner72
@gooner72 Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if Simon and Jim would actually allow Danny to answer these accusations that they lay at his feet... 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
@anthonyarnold9176
@anthonyarnold9176 Жыл бұрын
Or answer the questions he put to them. Narrative pushers. 💤
@CrowTails88
@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын
Jim & Simon complete planks , VAR fan boi
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Жыл бұрын
danny is brighter and wiser then both of them. gotta love when the guy who talks least makes most sense
@asmo2183
@asmo2183 Жыл бұрын
@@hotdog9262 Except he is not though. Danny doesn't even know what critical thinking is. He is just spewing yer da talk.
@hotdog9262
@hotdog9262 Жыл бұрын
@@asmo2183 what would critical thinking be. he is speaking from the perspective of an ex professional and shares his honest opinions
@axeman14
@axeman14 Жыл бұрын
Jim: “What do you think about that Danny?” Danny: “Well….” Jim: “Why won’t you answer Danny?” Danny: “Well…” Jim: “Come on Danny you don’t know what to say!” Danny: “Well I…” Jim: “There you have it Danny doesn’t know what to say!”
@swingingmonk
@swingingmonk Жыл бұрын
That's brilliant! 😂
@panchopuskas1
@panchopuskas1 Жыл бұрын
Here's a tip for Simon and Jim : just let Danny put more than 2 words together before interrupting him......
@anthonyarnold9176
@anthonyarnold9176 Жыл бұрын
It happens all the time. The more respectful the guest, the more we hear rhetoric shouted loudly over the top of them. Imagine adults acting like 5 year olds and bring paid for it.
@khylelewis
@khylelewis Жыл бұрын
3:18?
@michaelwallden7261
@michaelwallden7261 Жыл бұрын
good point
@Nathan-sc7hs
@Nathan-sc7hs Жыл бұрын
they have an agenda they've been told to push/endorse. And it ain't just about soundbites and clickbait... generating talksport revenue from "controversy" and fake arguments either. In the end, we don't know why var was brought in, nor why it is being (mis-)used the way it is.... i do however have my suspicions.
@markchapman2933
@markchapman2933 Жыл бұрын
Tbh Danny seemed to be interrupting just as often.
@scottemm
@scottemm Жыл бұрын
Big fan of Danny Murphy and his measured perspective.
@happyapple4269
@happyapple4269 Жыл бұрын
Even though he is wrong.
@joemiles3447
@joemiles3447 Жыл бұрын
@@happyapple4269you’re wrong you cretin
@100hurley
@100hurley Жыл бұрын
Painful discussion. Well done Danny Murphy.
@paulpurves484
@paulpurves484 Жыл бұрын
Well said, two against one is never easy
@TheChampIsHere_
@TheChampIsHere_ Жыл бұрын
Danny murphy is bang on here, simon jordans take on this was embarrassing
@BennyEggs...
@BennyEggs... Жыл бұрын
I’m with Danny
@happyapple4269
@happyapple4269 Жыл бұрын
@@paulpurves484 jim is devils advocate and simon made very valid points.
@paulpurves484
@paulpurves484 Жыл бұрын
@@happyapple4269 Jim definitely wasn’t playing devils advocate I thought he was actually quite unpleasant towards Danny.
@paulc7956
@paulc7956 Жыл бұрын
Jim: What's your 3-point plan then Danny? Danny: Explains point 1 Jim: OK now you're Howard Webb. What's the first thing you do?
@edwardvanniekerk2774
@edwardvanniekerk2774 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes (a lot of the time) Jim is completely insufferable 🤣
@trevorjoneill707
@trevorjoneill707 Жыл бұрын
most of the time
@bertieyoung3827
@bertieyoung3827 Жыл бұрын
I can assure you hes insufferable full stop, a total knob.
@800Viffer
@800Viffer Жыл бұрын
"Sometimes (a lot of the time)" is superfluous imo
@DadReadsBooks
@DadReadsBooks Жыл бұрын
Fair play to Danny for not losing his cool. He played the game, lived it, was at the receiving end of bad decisions and isn't allowed to answer questions fully. Getting laughed at and belittled.
@grassfret
@grassfret Жыл бұрын
Why do they keep pushing VAR "getting more right than it gets wrong"? If I did 100 tasks at work, got 51 right and 49 wrong, I'd be sacked. Getting more right than wrong is not a measure of success.
@kevinkilbane2007
@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын
Bur they got more wrong without var ya big clown
@shauncrossey8184
@shauncrossey8184 Жыл бұрын
Well it is actually a measure of success. Those numbers you’ve chosen are quite poor. If you do 3 tasks and get 2 right and 1 wrong what happens there? If a team gets to 92 finals and wins 50 and loses 42, that suggests to me that they’re still a hell of a team and have loads of success in that competition. You can’t just choose numbers to suit your opinion on it. I’ve only done it to counter your argument
@grassfret
@grassfret Жыл бұрын
@@shauncrossey8184 I've not chosen numbers to suit any argument, but to simply say VAR has been a success because it gets more right than wrong is ridiculous. The minimum to get more right than wrong would be 51%, which I'm pretty sure everyone would agree would be a terrible record. If they were saying "VAR gets X number more decisions correct than no VAR" then that would be a valid defence, but they're not.
@shauncrossey8184
@shauncrossey8184 Жыл бұрын
@@grassfret well we don’t know the percentages do we, because nobody counts it, because in essence, nobody cares. was never going to be 100% right anyway, but it’s clearly iover 50%, which, I agree isn’t great. But it’s not terrible either is it? Clearly room for improvement, which I’m sure will be sorted
@grassfret
@grassfret Жыл бұрын
@@shauncrossey8184 you're missing the point, whether it is over 50% or not isn't what they or I am saying. My point is that the statement that Jim and Simon keep repeating is nonsense. "VAR gets more right than it gets wrong" is not the brilliant defence of VAR they seem to think it is.
@nickmail7604
@nickmail7604 Жыл бұрын
Danny is bang on with this subject.
@michaellord2844
@michaellord2844 Жыл бұрын
Jim taking this somewhat personal, lets face it, when he was on SSN he was pressing the NEED for VAR to come into the sport every shift. Certain media companies had their rhetoric and we all know the technology just isnt good enough, neither are the folks operating it.
@rohithraman6488
@rohithraman6488 Жыл бұрын
I remember in late 2017 when many fans were wanting video refs in the sport, every comment I saw whenever there was a bad decision said "we need video technology"
@philbarton2832
@philbarton2832 Жыл бұрын
How is it not good enough?
@tjiss7094
@tjiss7094 Жыл бұрын
Danny was brilliant. Articulated his argument eloquently
@batmanmartin496
@batmanmartin496 Жыл бұрын
I have to admit I was with Danny on this one. Simon blaming the media and yet can't realize he is right there amongst it as part of the media!
@Nathan-sc7hs
@Nathan-sc7hs Жыл бұрын
@@batmanmartin496 bit like trump claiming he was an outsider lol similar degree of self-importance and pomposity shared too. "look at ma big words!"
@markchapman2933
@markchapman2933 Жыл бұрын
Danny complaining of goals being ruled out for being an inch offside was just plain daft.
@lukebradford6234
@lukebradford6234 Жыл бұрын
jims self righteous smirk is hilarious 😂
@Pintheshadows
@Pintheshadows Жыл бұрын
This is the Mike, Jay, and Rich of football punditry.
@CrowTails88
@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын
Jim is a complete 🤡🤡🤡 he was the biggest fan boi ,, football was entertainment this radio show is 💯 pathetic
@jat1994
@jat1994 Жыл бұрын
I’d smack him in his mouth
@jat1994
@jat1994 Жыл бұрын
I’d smack him in his mouth
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
He's got a very punchable face.
@rocharoch
@rocharoch Жыл бұрын
When Simon was trying to explain his “ruler” analogy n Danny says “you know we’re on radio”. Shut down 😂
@johnclegg4993
@johnclegg4993 Жыл бұрын
Not quite correct though, they are on KZbin also, which is visual, i was expecting Simon to comeback with that, doh.
@willtg1993
@willtg1993 Жыл бұрын
If danny could speak it would be a miracle.
@tobiathon80
@tobiathon80 Жыл бұрын
If Danny could think it would be a miracle.
@larrydavid1070
@larrydavid1070 Жыл бұрын
Jim dont know what he thinks till Simon tells him and refuses to let people answer
@tmvincent90
@tmvincent90 Жыл бұрын
Go to minute 4.38 , Simon gives Danny a wink cause he knows there arguments / debate makes for good listen
@dawitsco9283
@dawitsco9283 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Yourbobness
@Yourbobness Жыл бұрын
ALL HAVE OVERLORDS. DONE FOR MONEY NOT TO INFORM.
@jamesoneill5070
@jamesoneill5070 Жыл бұрын
If you put it as 4:38 it will jump there when you click on the number. Clicking the dots on the right allow you to edit your comment.
@gooner72
@gooner72 Жыл бұрын
What wink? Danny was reacting to Jim bringing up a statement that he made previously......🙄
@nicholasbolas
@nicholasbolas Жыл бұрын
@@gooner72 Look at 4:36 instead.
@waynebelton5445
@waynebelton5445 Жыл бұрын
Nothing worse than listening to someone asking a question, then the same person talking over the person trying to answer it. And SJ just thinking he knows everything.
@JinNOSify
@JinNOSify Жыл бұрын
Danny first thought Simon was on his side before, Simon reminded him he's not 😂😂
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын
@@MW92. Not in this case.
@nicholasbolas
@nicholasbolas Жыл бұрын
I get why Danny's getting cooked... but let's applaud him for being spontaneous. The likes of Souness and Keown would have gotten triggered. And maybe that's why we haven't seen Graeme since LMAO
@petebodom
@petebodom Жыл бұрын
Pliz remove Danny n Abonglahor from Talksport
@David-mi3il
@David-mi3il Жыл бұрын
@@petebodom bringing Danny Murphy down to Agbonlahor level, come on
@petebodom
@petebodom Жыл бұрын
@@David-mi3il Both are on same level..High level of Stupidity
@childofchief2290
@childofchief2290 Жыл бұрын
You can have sympathy for a ref in real time not being able to get a call right. You can't with a man with endless replays who still can't get offsides, penalties, red cards right.
@michaeldodds2722
@michaeldodds2722 Жыл бұрын
And when it takes several minutes to come to the wrong decision......
@michaelwilliams4454
@michaelwilliams4454 Жыл бұрын
People saying it’s adds drama and makes it more exciting etc are fans who sit at home and watch the game. When your in the stadium and it’s freezing and like old Trafford have no big screen you have no idea what’s going on. Also I agree with Danny since var when u celebrate there’s always a slight holdback in case it’s ruled out, even if somebody smashes in a 30 yard rocket your thinking was someone in the way for it to be ruled out. I say scrap it and people need to accept mistakes from refs/linesman
@chairmanalf7856
@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree. When at a stadium it hardly adds to the excitement, it is boring and incredibly frustrating indeed for the crowd.
@inserter400
@inserter400 Жыл бұрын
👏 👏 👏 Well said agree with you 💯 % !
@kevinkilbane2007
@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын
But fans won't accept it. They lost their minds for over 20 years since football was on telly. Every ref was wrong. Fans just moan non stop unless it benefits their teams.
@buster9168
@buster9168 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkilbane2007 Fans been moaning about refs since football began in the 19th century and still do, so won't make any difference.
@andrewwright4195
@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkilbane2007 get rid of the refs or var quite simple
@SS-iy5zo
@SS-iy5zo Жыл бұрын
Poor guys can’t cope with Danny’s common sense. The other two creating Danny’s argument (straw man) and saying he’s wrong.
@tonyshortland8812
@tonyshortland8812 Жыл бұрын
When var was first discussed, it was to stop errors that were "clear and obviouse". It has evolved into a phorensic analysis of every goal. My answer is to allow referees to referee the game, each Captain will be allowed one or two challenges, if the referee was correct, a challenge is lost, similar tennis, where the system seems to work well.
@chairmanalf7856
@chairmanalf7856 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, if it takes several minutes at a match in order to pore over the minutiae then it is not ‘clear and obvious.’
@mikewazowski6292
@mikewazowski6292 Жыл бұрын
Actually a class idea this, shame the Premier league and its refs are absolute clowns
@pzee9732
@pzee9732 Жыл бұрын
Spot on good idea
@yellowknight97
@yellowknight97 Жыл бұрын
American Football does the same. Great idea. One often argued how accurate is offside technology when the moment of impact is impossible to gauge on a TV screen AND the millimeters of where an arm, shoulder, head, or leg is is questionable... Any decision that is millimeter close should asshats be given to the offensive team. Similar to the "tie goes to the runner" rule in American baseball.
@Goady1000
@Goady1000 Жыл бұрын
Except when you've used your tow decisions the other team will make a red card tackle buy only get a yellow
@49undefeated49
@49undefeated49 Жыл бұрын
I'm a 52 year watcher and attender of football matches in England and VAR, for me has destroyed our game. I can't enjoy my team scoring now and the excitement has gone. Yes, I used to get miffed at replays showing offside (before VAR), but I would have that back in a heartbeat! If VAR stays, our game is dead, as it leaves the game open to corruption and game fixing!
@stevesalkas9128
@stevesalkas9128 Жыл бұрын
Maybe your team didn't score fake goal var to stay
@Lesnixonlive
@Lesnixonlive Жыл бұрын
+The only time Danny finished a sentence is when Jim played a recording
@ihaveaidsish
@ihaveaidsish Жыл бұрын
Well done Murphy! Two against one and you handled it like a boss.
@donaldduck5553
@donaldduck5553 Жыл бұрын
Simon is right though pundits like Danny Murphy are the reason it’s there in the first place
@dj22jamesy
@dj22jamesy Жыл бұрын
They tried to do this to Souness... bad move! Mr Souness won it with one arm tied behind his back. White & Jordan always pick on Danny and Martin Mckeown, but White holds back to let Simon get first dibs at them. If it's not going as planned, White splatters his breeks.
@donaldduck5553
@donaldduck5553 Жыл бұрын
@@dj22jamesy souness went off the show he couldn’t handle been called out for things
@Noticer-in-chief
@Noticer-in-chief Жыл бұрын
The Premier League half-arsed the implementation of VAR from the get go. When VAR debuted at a World Cup, the biggest stage in football, it went off almost without a hitch. One of the defining things about the implementation by FIFA was in allowing the on-field ref to go and take a look at the screen and decide for himself, much like TMO in Rugby will ask the on-field ref to take a look at something. What the Premier League did in the beginning was to limit the opportunity of the ref to take a look on the screen which did more to undermine the refs. Aside from offside which is an objective issue, everything other decision should reside solely with the on-field ref. VAR should not be making decisions, only advising the ref to take another look. And for God's sake mic them up so we can hear what they're saying and how they justify and reason their decisions.
@benmackay3573
@benmackay3573 Жыл бұрын
The main issue is that in rugby the on field referee doesn't get told to look at the screen, he will request what he wants to see in collaboration with the tmo BUT THE ON FIELD REF IS IN CHARGE. The tmo can't undermine him. Then there's also the fact they show it on the screen for the entire stadium as opposed to just the viewers at home. Them nobody is left out.
@ljp4618
@ljp4618 Жыл бұрын
Do a vote on TS and see how many ppl who work at TS would vote to keep it in!!! Jim and Simon are the only 2 ppl at TS who want to keep it!! Might as well work for the TalkTV
@gettobythesea
@gettobythesea Жыл бұрын
Don’t mention the var!
@mikeunsworth775
@mikeunsworth775 Жыл бұрын
I mentioned it once but I think I got away with alright!
@gar651527
@gar651527 Жыл бұрын
Brill 🤣
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
Well Germany started it!
@Kentishfolk
@Kentishfolk Жыл бұрын
jim is just the scottish jeremy vine
@curls9032
@curls9032 Жыл бұрын
That's is spot on fella. He plays dumb and throws muck around.
@CrowTails88
@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын
That’s spot on both Cu….. Nts , Jim was the biggest VAR fan boi complete 🤡🤡🤡 Simon & Jim know nowt
@andypandy4607
@andypandy4607 Жыл бұрын
Still think Jeremy vine is worse
@jasonpearce4995
@jasonpearce4995 Жыл бұрын
Good discussion well done danny
@jtbkilmartin9110
@jtbkilmartin9110 Жыл бұрын
I am no fan of Danny Murphy but I agreed with a lot of what he said. The spectacle of football is worse because of the ridiculous forensic analysis on offsides and /or the VAR room chiming in on incidents in an inconsistent manner. Originally I wanted VAR to remove goal/no goal like Lampard for England or the Spurs goal against MUFC. Every single time football is slowed down it heads towards American football which for me is not why I watch it. For the record I also agree with Simon that VAR gets more right than wrong. Maybe speed of decision making is the key?
@spud-652
@spud-652 Жыл бұрын
Danny is correct, VARs killed the excitement!
@UrbanKizBeast
@UrbanKizBeast Жыл бұрын
'Well you can't polish Turds can ya!' OMG that was such a brilliant call. I was on the floor dying 🤣🤣🤣
@patrik5333
@patrik5333 Жыл бұрын
Did Simon just give a shout out to Judge Dredd?😂😂 This guy.
@levibeattie2621
@levibeattie2621 Жыл бұрын
Jim was never this much of a knob on sky 😂
@bryancarpenter7131
@bryancarpenter7131 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct Danny
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Jimbo complaining about MOTD pundits by saying "I'm Not Having It" yet he's on here having same narrative describing VAR & officials week in week out. Need to take a look in mirror Jimbo
@jesus8772
@jesus8772 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but Jim White is the biggest muppet going
@JC-ip8ur
@JC-ip8ur Жыл бұрын
I dont understand how he still hosts a show hes a moron
@Rapanior
@Rapanior Жыл бұрын
slow sports news
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 Жыл бұрын
Jimbo trying hard to join up The Jordanite Club Association, but we have refused his letter.
@paulsmickersbangor
@paulsmickersbangor Жыл бұрын
Can't believe I'm actually with Danny on most of this
@clew6519
@clew6519 Жыл бұрын
only solution is fully automated or allow managers to challenge calls in real time like NBA or NFL. Just accept the change.
@paulonvula6495
@paulonvula6495 Жыл бұрын
I'm with Danny 100%! The millimeters offside calls are excruciating to see. It's getting worse. Give the advantage to the attacking player, it's been like that, the advantage used to go to the attacking player now it favors the defender, the attacking player will always lean forward, hence, advance few inches forward.
@andrewwright4195
@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын
I felt psg offside 82 min goal was a joke toe offside come on
@dannylad1600
@dannylad1600 Жыл бұрын
I've always said this, just give the benefit of the doubt to the attcking player. Often we see really good goals getting ruled out because some guys sleeve was offside. Its killng the game.
@markchapman2933
@markchapman2933 Жыл бұрын
If a goal is not ruled out for being "millimetres offside" Paulo, then how far offside must a player be before he is offside? It must be the same for every match, every team, every player. Therefore the line has to be drawn somewhere which means wherever it is drawn "millimetres" over that line will be enough to be offside.
@paulonvula6495
@paulonvula6495 Жыл бұрын
@@markchapman2933 Just the fact that the conceding team don't even complain the legitimacy of the goal says it all. It's true that offside is offside, but the forensic analysis in every goal scored is ridiculous, if that's the case then they should also have to look at every session of the play for a possible offside offense, not only when a goal is scored. It's not good for football when you see referees doing their best just to disallow a goal, they are looking for every tiny details just to rule it out and it's ruining the game. The technology was never about the toe, shoulder, armpit, forehead inches offsides; it was for the "clear and obvious" errors, meaning, the blatant errors that somehow the referees didn't spot or ruled very incorrectly which these offside calls are not. For there to be an offside both feet/heels of the attacking player has to be completely forward in relation to last defending player, the way it is now it's creating lazy defending and inhibiting the whole process and art of attacking. As if it's not already too difficult teams will now have to find for even more creative ways to score a goal just to ensure it doesn't go the surgery room (VAR) to see if it lives or dies
@krisblacksa
@krisblacksa Жыл бұрын
Jim going “Scrap it” took me
@SamuelMitchell-pm9uq
@SamuelMitchell-pm9uq Жыл бұрын
Simon is such a wind up and Jim absolutely loves it haha. It’s great to watch / listen to even if they aren’t always right. Very entertaining
@800Viffer
@800Viffer Жыл бұрын
It is spelt "a n n o y I n g" iirc
@user-ys7eg8ev7f
@user-ys7eg8ev7f Жыл бұрын
I don’t care anymore about how right the decision is and the subjective decisions still not getting it right. They could get 100% of all decisions right and I’d still hate it. Purely because of disallowed goals, and not being positive a goal is a goal until a minute or 2 later. Absolutely ruined everything we loved about football. We live for our team hitting the back of the net and celebrating. Barely celebrate goals anymore. VAR is awful when you’re a matchday goer.. football is dead 😭
@InBodWeTrust
@InBodWeTrust Жыл бұрын
Simon's comment re. the referee calling for VAR (rather than VAR calling the ref) is bang on ... this is essentially what happens in rugby, where the ref. calls the TMO to confirm (or otherwise) the on-field decision. (Yes, there are a small number of times when the TMO will alert the ref to something they may have missed, but this is the exception rather than the norm).
@gunneronfire
@gunneronfire Жыл бұрын
100 plus mins these days and they get it wrong as well.
@yakedup
@yakedup Жыл бұрын
The refs would get hounded by the players and managers, the game would grind to a halt
@paulmartin9194
@paulmartin9194 Жыл бұрын
I was always under that impression. I thought VAR was brought in just as a visual aid to the ref if they requested it when they weren't sure regarding a decision??
@campbell3711
@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын
I usually agree with Simon but in this occasion I agree with Danny, especially when it comes to the offside by a toe
@magikarpsplashy
@magikarpsplashy Жыл бұрын
But Danny is wrong about offside. The law states that a toe is offside, so until they change the law, then VAR is correct to rule those goals out. That's like saying the speeding law was introduced to stop people driving at 50mph on residential streets so you can't pull me over for doing 32 🤷‍♂️
@adam.677
@adam.677 Жыл бұрын
@Magikarp Splashy shut up you GOON 😂
@campbell3711
@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын
@@magikarpsplashy what are you talking about? How does that make him wrong?? Before VAR when was anyone flagged for being offside by a toe😂😂?! Never, and making road speed analogies to offsides in football makes you sound like an even bigger twat😆
@magikarpsplashy
@magikarpsplashy Жыл бұрын
@Campbell Moffat and they wrong not to flag. Look up what the offside rule says and then you'll understand why you're wrong. And I'd rather be a twat that's correct than a great guy that's a pillock 😁
@campbell3711
@campbell3711 Жыл бұрын
@@magikarpsplashy you arent correct though😂 Before VAR nobody had ever been flagged offside by a toe, how could they have had that down as a rule when technology wasn't as good even 5year ago otherwise we would have had VAR a long time ago, anyone that has played football at any level growing up, especially as a striker learned how to bend the run playing of the shoulder, etc and there needing to be in front of the player by at least a full arm and leg, etc never a toe so you can talk about what the rules say all you want that isn't the topic of discussion here it's about VAR decisions being ridiculous and Danny said how stupid that rule is so all you are doing is repeating yourself about a rule that was only introduced with the VAR technology not before and everyone including footballers agrees how stupid it is and it should be changed back to before with that rule obviously you haven't played the game at any level because nobody that has would make a ridiculous statement like what you have just made🤭
@adamgreen3217
@adamgreen3217 Жыл бұрын
Jim you are obnoxious! Danny deserves a medal to put up with the pair of bully's! Well done Danny, a true legend
@lozbarns8235
@lozbarns8235 Жыл бұрын
Open the mics like other sports and use the pitchside screen more !!
@mikethomas4423
@mikethomas4423 Жыл бұрын
I think the issue with this might be lower leagues can't afford the big screens and technology required
@POSTIEPLAYS
@POSTIEPLAYS Жыл бұрын
VAR should be goal line technology only
@100SC
@100SC Жыл бұрын
At least let the man talk
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989
@LoneWolfOfHouseStark1989 Жыл бұрын
Huge Simon Jordan fan but Danny Murphy in the right here, let him answer 🤦‍♂️
@nixkreed2183
@nixkreed2183 Жыл бұрын
5:07 That smirk from Simon
@kirkclifton70
@kirkclifton70 Жыл бұрын
Simon is absolutely on point here, Danny can't remember what he said yesterday
@walter8679
@walter8679 Жыл бұрын
My three points to fix it. 1 have Webb lead it. 2 mic all the refs for the stadium and fans can hear decisions. 3 have interviews for reffs after games to hold them accountable
@eggyfart4738
@eggyfart4738 Жыл бұрын
Can you get me the 4th pint please Walter, Peroni please pal
@kevinkilbane2007
@kevinkilbane2007 Жыл бұрын
How about you become ref since you know it all
@walter8679
@walter8679 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinkilbane2007 so your ok with around 5 terrible calls every weekend that hugely affect the outcome of games and has everyone talking about the calls instead of the games all week? and don't want an explanation on it your just ok with statements like "sorry we got it wrong this week" when its every week? this is what you want in football?
@WaniZame
@WaniZame Жыл бұрын
Simon roasted Danny on the problem with football punditry here. There would be no VAR if ex footballers didn’t want to keep to hammering ref decisions for dollar on tv.
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын
Jim sticks up for his mate far to much.
@bringinitdown.
@bringinitdown. Жыл бұрын
it's getting disgusting.
@weallfollowmanutd
@weallfollowmanutd Жыл бұрын
@@bringinitdown. It reminds me of when I was a young lad who got loved up by an older woman.
@joelthomson8697
@joelthomson8697 Жыл бұрын
The whole reason all of these people have jobs is because football is a globally popular leisure activity and form of entertainment. Danny was trying to make that point several times but wasn't allowed to get a word in.
@2xAcTiOnXJaCkS0nx
@2xAcTiOnXJaCkS0nx Жыл бұрын
I think we all watch for different reasons...for me the entertainment comes from the jeopardy of the game not celebrating goals adding a wait after goals are scored is more jeopardy not less...I like VAR...so who died and elected Danielle here the entertainment expert?
@mrkaosboxinguk1054
@mrkaosboxinguk1054 Жыл бұрын
Let Danny speak ffs!!
@kostaoliveric8299
@kostaoliveric8299 Жыл бұрын
Well done Danny! 100% on your side.
@krankieboolean1340
@krankieboolean1340 Жыл бұрын
Goal line technology worked a treat. The problem with VAR is that it does not focus on the clear and obvious mistakes - instead it tries to microanalyze everything.
@ZaydDepaor
@ZaydDepaor Жыл бұрын
No, that was the start of this foolishness...if goal line then why not other things too? The difference between winning and losing is not whether something crossed the line or not...a team can also lose due to a wrong throw-in, a wrong offside, an undetected foul, a dive etc....As soon as you start messing with the simplicity and fluidity of the game you are chipping away at it.
@mueey1
@mueey1 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved that clip... see what happens when you are allowed to debate rather than just throw insults at someone they don't agree with. Both had valid points and neither scored points yet both opinions were heard and listened to albeit with Jim interrupting 🤣 . Me personally VAR has made the referee on the pitch act like a scared little child afraid to make a decision incase he looks like a twit on the big screen, but then it doesn't help when the ones looking at the screen can't help the guy that's making the initial decision in the first place. Scrap the offside scrutiny of an armpit or hair offside give the advantage back to the attacker make the criteria be if its a whole foot in front of the defender or the full shoulder or a part of the chest then call offside otherwise advantage to the attacker for his momentum stuff like that then it will be quicker to make decisions. VAR has taken away common sense literally by refs not thinking basic common sense.
@SnowMan-qp7gc
@SnowMan-qp7gc Жыл бұрын
Simon always believes he knows beyond everyone and would never allow you to speak whilst he talks above you .... unbelievable
@sprinter1832
@sprinter1832 Жыл бұрын
Snow Man He's a Narcissist, loves himself, and never allows anyone to speak! Danny was correct, and Posh Boi was an absolute 🤡 Pity about the Crystal Palace job Simon, not over it yet???? PMSL!!!
@SnowMan-qp7gc
@SnowMan-qp7gc Жыл бұрын
@@sprinter1832 Murphy was absolutely right but am sad that Jim is a puppet and has always been cos he wants views for his show with the presence of Jordan... he didn't back Murphy when Jordan was shutting the man down
@christopherwayne6275
@christopherwayne6275 Жыл бұрын
Simon hes just sounds like a Noisy exuast on wind up like hes in Courts Var Has been a joke Simon Must be drinking something
@SnowMan-qp7gc
@SnowMan-qp7gc Жыл бұрын
@@christopherwayne6275 😂 😂
@800Viffer
@800Viffer Жыл бұрын
White and Jordan love the sound of their own voices.
@Relaxingsounds647
@Relaxingsounds647 Жыл бұрын
Once again Simon Jordan is right. I didn’t used to like him but he says what we all think
@abdulssewanyana
@abdulssewanyana Жыл бұрын
The sarcasm and pride in that studio was top notch.
@Goady1000
@Goady1000 Жыл бұрын
The fans going to the game (all who matter as Danny rightly said) are not for var.
@ireneugeba5282
@ireneugeba5282 Жыл бұрын
One of the reasons for VAR was the, Maradona "hand of God" goal, for example VAR has changed the football in a way I didn't expect, example, the centimeter offside decisions. This is a great argument. Danny has great points. Simon also. This is an important topic in football, today.
@manupasta
@manupasta Жыл бұрын
Why is VAR not an issue in UCL or Fifa tournaments? A bad works man blames his tools. Anyone blaming VAR is deluded. It’s the awful referees using it.
@askido351
@askido351 Жыл бұрын
They are getting it wrong on a video replay technology. That's mental
@danielcogbill104
@danielcogbill104 Жыл бұрын
Danny’s point about football being entertainment is absolutely spot on. Now when a goal is scored first thing in my mind is that the VAR bods are franticly running back through 30 seconds of play to find something to rule out the goal. If you are followed by the police for long enough, they will find a broken brake light.
@vincentmogojwa2483
@vincentmogojwa2483 Жыл бұрын
Used to think Simon is just someone that likes arguing! But I was wrong, this man has wisdom.
@Denchanter
@Denchanter Жыл бұрын
Bet you like Jeremy Clarkson and Piers Morgan
@embisonjones4996
@embisonjones4996 Жыл бұрын
@@Denchanter - Simon is miles better than those two idiots. There’s substance in Simon’s argument.
@Denchanter
@Denchanter Жыл бұрын
@@embisonjones4996 😂
@jimboweller3
@jimboweller3 Жыл бұрын
Simon and Danny actually have an interesting debate. Danny is very cool headed and articulate, Simon, at least forwards the argument and makes intelligent points, It's a fair point to make that. The only reason we var there in the first place is because everybody in the media was moaning about referees. That bald guy in the middle. However his lights are on but he is clearly not listening
@clew6519
@clew6519 Жыл бұрын
Simon, "guys like you" includes you
@DerekTJ
@DerekTJ Жыл бұрын
What aren't counted are the instances where VAR don't even look at.
@fredthered73
@fredthered73 Жыл бұрын
also repect to danny keeping his cool ,as simon does seem a a bit directive towards danny
@curls9032
@curls9032 Жыл бұрын
His jealousy is fierce, he doesn't like the fact the guys on MOTD have all done good things in the game, and takes it out on Danny.
@andypandy4607
@andypandy4607 Жыл бұрын
Joe cole and Rio Ferdinand: "be angry Danny!"
@Samw8484
@Samw8484 Жыл бұрын
The only problem I have with VAR is these silly offsides where the attackers toe is just in front of the defender it's ridiculous! They should change the rules and give the attacker the benefit of the doubt if the offside decision is to close to call with the naked eye. It really is that simple!
@SuperYannick63
@SuperYannick63 Жыл бұрын
I don’t like Danny’s take on “everything got worse since var is in place”. But look at what a hypocrite Jim is. He prepares to go for Danny playing his comments on 4:30. Or at 4:55-5:19. “It’s too ridiculous for words to suggest it…You talk about nonsense coming out of our months” Nr. 2: Why was it brought…what was brought in…ehhh let me think…var Wtf Jim man grow up. I like how Simon tries to see it in a more neutral way after Jim taking his position before hand concerning Jim vs Simon’s discussion at the beginning.
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
And the smirk that you'd like to punch off his face.
@shaneclarke1514
@shaneclarke1514 Жыл бұрын
Danny Murphy has surprised me recently. One of the better pundits
@josephhall5136
@josephhall5136 Жыл бұрын
Even bringing in ex players won't help. Depends what generation they are from, and they'll still have to go by a guideline and rules. And what they see and what we see will always cause a stir. VAR was the last nail in the coffin that changed it from a game to a business.
@gasservenw1369
@gasservenw1369 Жыл бұрын
The offside rule should be changed and made easier for everyone. In my opinion, there are only 3 options. 1) Get rid of the offside rule 2) Use automatic offside technology or 3) offside sounds be when there is daylight between the attacker and the defender
@josephtaylor6346
@josephtaylor6346 Жыл бұрын
Hey Danny! I feel for you going up against these 2! They act like politicians. You should watch some Rugby games while the six nations is on and watch how well they manage and communicate with players! THIS IS HOW FOOTBALL GAMES NEED TO B REFEREED
@TRACKADDICT28
@TRACKADDICT28 Жыл бұрын
Danny is right this time, you don’t let him finish his point, and even worse dismiss it
@mariusschulz2926
@mariusschulz2926 Жыл бұрын
Those 3 keep Talksport relevant! 👍✌️
@joecoleisnang
@joecoleisnang Жыл бұрын
I'm not Danny's biggest fan but this was abit ridiculous. He hardly had a chance to form a sentence or two without Jim interrupting him.
@xbriskx
@xbriskx Жыл бұрын
I don't care the experience, I just want the right decision.
@acenmitch1048
@acenmitch1048 Жыл бұрын
You clearly never been to a football match live then
@xbriskx
@xbriskx Жыл бұрын
@@acenmitch1048 Yeah clearly, if the opposite team won 4-0 and all goals shouldn't have been allowed, you would have preferred this because play wasn't interrupted lol?
@acenmitch1048
@acenmitch1048 Жыл бұрын
@@xbriskx that’s not real life mate. It’s the complex decisions which they always get wrong that take 5 mins. Also 0 explanation to the crowd who paid £30+ for the experience. Compared to the plastic fans watching on TV
@xbriskx
@xbriskx Жыл бұрын
@@acenmitch1048 Nothing wrong with VAR itself then, just the idiots who use it, Howard Webb will sort it out.
@CrowTails88
@CrowTails88 Жыл бұрын
Jim was the biggest VAR fan boi he has destroyed football & radio
@haywoodchablowmee2372
@haywoodchablowmee2372 Жыл бұрын
Jim the out of touch dinosaur strikes again ‘What do young people have to do with it?’
@darkelf2674
@darkelf2674 Жыл бұрын
Danyy must want to punch Simon!!!!! And he’s right about VAR taking away spontaneity and enjoyment
@TheMrClutchy
@TheMrClutchy Жыл бұрын
Simon always saying stuff like “the problem with people like you” The problem is people like Simon.
@barrylynch5066
@barrylynch5066 Жыл бұрын
Simon is correct. If people like Danny constantly criticise referees then there will always be huge pressure to add technology to help referees.
@felicitybolt7607
@felicitybolt7607 Жыл бұрын
Murphy wishing he’d brought his ghostwriter to answer the questions
@MaccaHD
@MaccaHD Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@ShaunWortley
@ShaunWortley Жыл бұрын
When a blatant refereeing error means your club is relegated, denied promotion or title etc it's gut wrenching, VAR rectifying that injustice has to be a good thing. Those examples happened so many times that VAR was introduced in the first place, isn't perfect but working to improve it is the only way to go
@ryanhill102
@ryanhill102 Жыл бұрын
Danny is spot on here
@danm9297
@danm9297 Жыл бұрын
I don't particularly like Simon but this is SO true. The first thing pundits talk about is ref decisions, moaning about them, even if a team has been hammered for 90 mins.
@charliefarleyy169
@charliefarleyy169 Жыл бұрын
As an Arsenal fan. Teams like us, City and Liverpool would get screwed for playing high lines and would have so many goals go against us due to offsides not being called correctly
@andrewwright4195
@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын
I hate var since it came in
@CB-xr1eg
@CB-xr1eg Жыл бұрын
@@andrewwright4195 VAR is a POS.
@andrewwright4195
@andrewwright4195 Жыл бұрын
@@CB-xr1eg not in any way they get worse every year jack pen was a joke so was arsenal pen got nowhere to go
@TheWrightTimes
@TheWrightTimes Жыл бұрын
That pause to see if the goal stands spoils the moment of celebration for players and fans
@chibifirestorm
@chibifirestorm Жыл бұрын
it's not VAR it's the fact that PL officials aren't fit for purpose, VAR works fine in other leagues
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