USYK'S LOOKED FRAGILE 😬 Simon Jordan & Spencer Oliver DEBATE who wins Tyson Fury v Oleksandr Usyk?

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[@fantasyboxing71]

Usyk looks fragile... meanwhile fury was dropped by a guy making his pro debut.

[@craigphillips9383]

And cut bad by a sparring partner, and battered by wallin

[@davidbrady1825]

​@@craigphillips9383battered? 9-3 on the cards💀

[@Donatello-br4fd]

That was like taking that beating off ngannou

[@adriandaker8757]

​@@craigphillips9383so because wallin cut him does that mean Clarke beat wardley because he cut him? What a load of waffle 😂

[@Internettoughguy547]

@@adriandaker8757Clarke won that fight although the judges said draw

[@JustifiedAncient]

If Usyk wins, he’ll have won EVERY single title available in boxing, amateur and pro. Nobody has ever done that

[@alexreid4131]

Can you clarify that statement perhaps? Lennox Lewis won Gold in the 1988 Olympics and was Undisputed in the pros. So that’s one to add to the list. There are more. Are you just talking heavyweight? And if so just in the four belt era? What specifically do you think Usyk will achieve that no one else has done?

[@alsaeedm]

And he will have done it all in enemy territory.

[@thelegendarydeikay3071]

@@alsaeedm correct but trying to say it comparing to other HWS, lennox lewis would smash usyk up in 3 rounds

[@SworBeyE16]

@@alexreid4131Usyk will have won Olympic gold, WSB and undisputed x2

[@alexreid4131]

@@SworBeyE16 correct but if you read the original poster’s comment he wasn’t referring to multiple weight divisions. Hence why I asked for clarification.

[@craniumcrux]

Downplaying usyks achievements at every opportunity. Amateur world champ, Olympic gold, undisputed cruiserweight and if he wins undisputed heavyweight, beating aj and fury within 6 fights. How would he not be an all time great?

[@blaizecunningham6080]

Well, to be fair if he does do that then he can start to be spoken about like that, and if he can replicate that same success for the next 6 fights after that, then he will be an all time great. Everyone is just too keen to start throwing labels around. The greats have legacies of 10+ defences, no one in the division is there yet so let's not start creating shortcuts to greatness. The greats don't just win a fight to get to the top, they also stay there for years. That's what makes them great.

[@dazg7405]

@@blaizecunningham6080 amateur world champ , Olympic gold , pro - unified heavyweight champ all in around 19 fights haha bloke is class

[@davidmccann9811]

​​@@blaizecunningham6080 His most starstruck fans are trying to get around his lowly 22 fights (only 5 in the last 5 years) by including his 350 amateur fights.

[@blaizecunningham6080]

@@dazg7405 totally agree. But 19 fights does not equate to greatness. There's no one in the heavyweight division that has the resume to be considered great just yet. They are good, they are the best right now, but they are not all time greats, any of them. There is this desperate need to crown an "all time great" the heavyweight division from this era that is currently boxing, the problem is because of ego, poor business practices and outright greed, it's slim pickings coz no one is there yet and all of them are half a dozen fights away from even being considered somewhat great, let alone "all time". Usyk at least has a track record of just going out and doing it, so if any of those guys can get to 10+ successful defences against the best out there right now, it's him. But he's not there yet. 3 heavyweight title fights is miles away, Tyson is double that and he's nowhere near either. It's not about the number, it's about accepting and then winning the fights. All of the greats turned up, they didn't just talk about fights that never happen and they don't win one fight and become the best, it's about consistency across years of top flight competition. None of of them are there yet, and if you were honest you'd agree that being "good" is not enough. These are just facts. I'm sorry to say that this generation if heavyweights doesn't have a great yet. It's almost insulting to suggest there is a great here, usyk is a very good fighter but it's the record that is lacking. Years more at the top, and at least another 6 fights. There's definitely still fights out there for him, and as long as that's true he can't be considered great and that is just a cold hard fact.

[@dazg7405]

@@blaizecunningham6080 to be great you need great dance partners true , but I’m telling ya you haven’t even seen the best of this fella , I’m my opinion he turned pro 3 yrs late , he’s got the best lead hand I have ever seen in boxing it’s unreal , footwork that would stand up in any generation , question for you would you say Tyson was a great considering how weak the heavyweight division was in his time ?

[@samwarrilow2881]

Usyk is an inch shorter than Ngannou. Did Ngannou look like a midget next to Fury? I think people will be surprised that the size difference won’t be as big as they imagine.

[@stuartm4921]

Especially when they realise Fury lies about his height.

[@thelegendarydeikay3071]

it's not massive difference but it will be a different fury, but ngannou may be only 1 inch but the guy look twice as big as usyk

[@minibikemafia]

​@@thelegendarydeikay3071he is a magic gypsy....😂😂😂🤦‍♂️ Grew 4 inches with his magic dust and boar balls!!! 😂😂

[@matthewturner8063]

His reach is the bigger obstacle not height.

[@Pringlelover]

I think Usyk’s size actually helps him. People see it as a disadvantage but it may have the opposite effect.

[@avfc1985]

They talk like Usyk is the same height as Spencer 😂

[@richardfairclough2960]

Haha I know right he’s like 6/3 6/4

[@recodegamesstudio]

Usyk is 6 3 and lieson fury is 6 foor 7 AT BEST.

[@thetruesquad5059]

lmaooo

[@thetruesquad5059]

@@recodegamesstudio nah he is slightly taller than wilder tbf , remember in face offs he is not looking straight in front of himself he is looking down at usyk so it makes the height difference seem a bit less

[@PMKehoe]

:))))

[@FiveTwo_Nick]

Simon only checks Spence when he's being an AJ fan... Doesn't mind him being a Fury fanboy 😂😂😂😂

[@ajvindiesel8517]

AJs shite, he's lost to anyone above Euro level, just accept the facts son.

[@iffysd9864]

​@ajvindiesel8517 AJ has a better boxing record than Fury, who's fought nobody and tested positive for PEDs...

[@nickward7251]

@@iffysd9864either way fury beats AJ It doesn’t matter about who fought who in the past Both their records will be irrelevant once they meet in the ring and I’m not a fanboy to either fury or AJ but AJ only stands a punchers chance against fury Everyone has there own opinions and for me and can’t see AJ ever beating fury if fury is fully fit and on point he beats him Everytime

[@iffysd9864]

@nickward7251 it does there's a reason why Fury has avoided AJ all his career. There's a reason why Fury has a padded record and got dropped by AJ in the amateurs then started telling steve bunce how good AJ was 😂😂 Fury is a fraud.

[@ajvindiesel8517]

really? 3 losses and wins against who? You're obviously biased

[@N_Davido]

Calling a one off press conference to scream “dosser” and have a bunch of yes men massage your ego is fragile.

[@justchilling4491]

Do you seriously think it was Tyson that called this press conference you absolute 🍩, it will be part of the pre fight promotion 😂

[@figaroconstantine]

​@justchilling4491 Pre fight promotions are normally done with both boxers, not one!! 🤫

[@justchilling4491]

@@figaroconstantinethe other one is probably at home somewhere on the OUTSKIRTS of Ukraine and what’s the point of having him there if as we are to believe he can’t speak English

[@delanodegenie6970]

​@@justchilling4491 Where would you like him then? In a gym training on the front line?? 😂😂

[@josephclift3662]

​@@justchilling4491he speaks better English than Fury. Lol

[@wmurray689]

I can't wait to hear this lot when Usyk beats him quite comfortably.

[@joewhite22]

These clueless morons will just point to Fury not being as good as he was and so won't fully give Usyk the credit.

[@michaelcollins6616]

Can't wait for the excuses you will put up when Tyson wins

[@freedom4life123]

@@michaelcollins6616 Deluded fanboy detected

[@JosephCarter-sp3xv]

@@freedom4life123sorry usyk fanboy

[@Hghar]

Remember people Usyks the HW miracle man who will beat Fury the fruad convincingly..... Remember that when Fury boxes the lugs off him,no excuses.

[@pelseynzenze8415]

If Usyk wins, all we’ll hear is Tyson Fury didn’t turn up, he ain’t himself, not in shape blah blah blah. The least that’s expected from every fighter is turning up. If u can’t be bothered, then you’re a disgrace to the sport.

[@Hghar]

Remember people Usyks the HW miracle man who will beat Fury the fraud convincingly..... Remember that when Fury boxes the lugs off him,no excuses.

[@t.d6379]

Naaaa, no excuses

[@davidmccann9811]

True, but most of the people currently on the Usyk bandwagon will make the same excuses if their man loses.

[@pelseynzenze8415]

@@davidmccann9811 Anyone who wins, it’s well deserved. Just after the Ngannou’s performance, what did everyone say?? That wasn’t the real Tyson, he didn’t take it serious etc….like that’s suppose to be an excuse

[@davidmccann9811]

​@@pelseynzenze8415 Absolutely. But I guarantee, if Usyk loses this fight most of his fans will drop him just like Ngannou fans did with him, and the rest will make the same excuses Fury and Wilder fans make. Too many fickle (bandwagon) fans and bad loses in the sport now.

[@margaretrodgers1411]

Usyk beats fury and his ego will be gone . Can’t wait .

[@deadkennedyrolls21]

Simon, really, if he fights Usyk like he fought Wilder? You're comparing Wilder to Usyk?!

[@DavidGoldX]

Clueless clown like Simon Jordan should not be allowed to talk about boxing on such a huge platform like Talksport. He talks absolute nonsense

[@josephclift3662]

Good point

[@nobullshit8898]

No wilder could take you out usyk can't punch like that

[@DavidGoldX]

@@nobullshit8898 Usyk is many levels above Wilder in boxing ability

[@Brumie-qq4dc]

Usyk ducked wilder how many times

[@AurelAvramescu]

So Usyk in more than 300 amateur fights was counted once for a body punch from Beterbiev and once by body punch in WSB(where he was boxing at HW) and now the controversial hit from Doubois, and suddenly he is weak to the body.

[@AlexM-sg8fn]

It’s hilarious isn’t it

[@t.f.1345]

These guys just don't want to acknowledge an Eastern European the title all-time great. If usyk beats fury, he has beaten all relevant guys, us the undisputed champion in two divisions in less than 30 fights combined. What else do u need? British and Americans just can't accept it

[@tazban9]

Usyk won't beat fury not even close

[@griffithszvidzo6511]

I made the same observation. Spencer said on one of the episodes that Anthony Joshua will go down as an all time great if he becomes a 3time world champion. I'm not sure why they would down play usyk in the conversation of an all time great if he beats fury for the undisputed.

[@freedom4life123]

@@tazban9 Deluded fanboy detected

[@freedom4life123]

@@tazban9 Not only will usyk school fury he will embarass him and make him look as stupid as he actually is.

[@tazban9]

​@freedom4life123 haha no not at all My fighter is not at that level.yet moses itauma thats my man but fury will do him inside 8

[@trevorclarey3336]

Fury sounds like he is trying to convince himself , not Usyk .

[@figaroconstantine]

I've noticed that Usyk's stayed in the gym and kept quiet whilst Fury's in Saudi and holding pointless press conferences.. Fury will pull out through injury or lose badly IMO!!

[@shamilchauhan5197]

Cant wait to hear Talksport the day after Fury loses 😂😂😂

[@deaddogtony1677]

They've already got the excuse lined up, oh Fury isn't the same

[@davidmccann9811]

​@@deaddogtony1677 Absolutely. And if Usyk loses, the fans singing his praises now will mostly desert him and jump back on the AJ bandwagon.

[@chiefbrodyrobertson2950]

​spot on👌avidmccann9811

[@benjaminalexander7043]

you'l be waiting a long time coz he wont lose !!! hahahahaha

[@JosephCarter-sp3xv]

He won’t lose not a chance

[@tomadamson692]

usyk is 6 foot 3 not exactly that small and saying the fury that turned up against wilder beats usyk? why? usyk is a far superior boxer than wilder he can easily avoid fury the whole fight with his movement fury has never fought anyone as good as usyk

[@Andrew-rb4km]

Fury will win

[@albo2591]

It’s amazing how many usyk fans there are out there nowadays 😅

[@figaroconstantine]

​@@albo2591Just people who actually watch boxing and can see that Fury has already lost..

[@Maroon498]

Usyk wins

[@powpow9560]

@@albo2591 You dont have to be a "fan" to see it

[@justinneill5003]

I think they are pinning too much on Fury's size, and crucially they ignore one of Usyk's less talked about assets - his relentless, intense work rate which he can maintain for 12 rounds. Fury likes to occasionally step back and take his foot off the gas between feints and flurries of punches; he will not have that luxury this time. He likes to vary the pace, so being forced to maintain Usyk's pace, with Usyk's speed and accuracy, may unsettle him and give Usyk the opportunity to land scoring punches. They both have great physical stamina, but Usyk also wears down opponents mentally. A lot of excuses have been made for Fury's poor showing vs Ngannou, but in this latest press conference he again insists that he trained hard and was well prepared for that fight; if he didn't have the constant focus and relexes to avoid Ngannou's punches, he will be in trouble with Usyk. Theytalk about Usyk as though he was 5'8" but he is a very solid 6'3" and deceptively strong (he was pshing Joshua back at one point.) He is also very slipery and agile. I do not think that Fury will have much success with trying to lean ont him and may get punished on the break. I'm not dissing Fury, he's a great fighter even though his two big challenges (Klitschko and Wilder I) have been padded out with lesser opponents. But I think a lot of people still don't seem to understand Usyk.

[@markhadden1397]

😂😂 who lets Simon talk about boxing, bad enough listening to spencer and Gareth

[@richardfairclough2960]

Simon thinks he knows boxing for some reason

[@theemperorofboxingtruth3745]

Spencer is ok but Jordan and GAD are sycophantic yes men!

[@Internettoughguy547]

I’ve been saying this for a while SJ with fancy words. Get duke up

[@sportdilly]

Gareth is a team Fury propaganda machine. He only turns back into a decent and impartial journalist when he’s not talking about the heavyweight division

[@albo2591]

I have watched boxing for years and years and it went just fine without lord simon jordan spouting off everyday like hes some kind of boxing genius

[@JamieVauxnut1]

Fury has zero footwork , constantly off balance and crossing his feet then some people call that great movement. He has a size advantage that is quite clear but as AJ showed thats not everything. To say AJ isn't a top heavyweight is just ridiculous these pundits will say anything to validate their opinion then flip it the following week. Anyone saying this is a clear win either way is totally deluded , based on current form Usyk wins , based on their heavyweight record Fury wins ... personally i favour Usyk as a person and for the win

[@t.d6379]

You're in for a shock

[@JamieVauxnut1]

@t.d6379 whys that , did you read what I wrote ? I believe either of them have the ability to win this . I'm happy to listen to whatever bit of my statement is factually inaccurate?

[@t.d6379]

@@JamieVauxnut1 0 footwork remark, absolutely deluded, one of the worst takes I've seen this year. Watch his footwork on the 18th!

[@JamieVauxnut1]

@t.d6379 well that's a little hard to watch right now I can only judge his footwork on every other fight that is possible to watch . Most of his fights he gets away with being off balance as he's so rangey and able to control the fight at distance with his double jabs and long looping shots , never the less he's off balance and at times falling around out of control to an extent. The only time that improves slightly is when he trained with SH and had to learn to plant his feet and throw a solid combination, moving across the ring hes still wobbling around all over the place . The same can be said for his so called head movement which adds to the problem as shown in the first wilder fight . He doesn't have the ability to control an opponent purely with footwork he relies on man handling his opponents into position . Some people also say hes fast ... breaking news hes not , hes fast for such a long limbed fighter but not fast compared to smaller lighter men . If he makes improvements for the upcoming fight then great he has it in him physically I'm sure but mentally unstable which effects training and performance as proven in recent fights .Like I said I wouldn't be surprised if either man wins but I'm siding with consistency nothing more , I'm a boxing fan not a fanboy or a hater ...

[@sc0ttishnutj0b75]

Tyson Fury can have amazing footwork and is a great boxer. We just haven't seen that from him for a long time. People put him on a pedestal after he beat a guy (Wilder) who never really fought anyone great. Every wilder opponent would have been demolished by a 'Just good' British or other European heavyweight

[@alexreid4131]

Going on size…Fury should win. Going on size. Going on everything else I don’t give Fury a chance. If Fury was Usyk’s size then he’d have no chance. So if Fury wins to me it’s coz he’s bigger. So really…if he loses it’s incredibly embarrassing for him.

[@colinm610]

100 percent.

[@dogpoofairy2517]

Can't disagree with that.

[@danexitsstreetview3273]

Completely agree. He is only better when it comes to size. Usyk is as good if not better in all other areas.

[@Nomad7656]

Right! I always said if Fury was “average” size HW, say around 6’3; I doubt anyone would even know his name. His size is just about his only asset.

[@davidmccann9811]

The trouble is that many Usyk fans are contradicting themselves on this whole size difference nonsense. First they say the size difference is irrelevant (Usyk is the same size as Ali, an inch shorter than Ngannou blah blah blah) but then they contradict this by saying the only advantage Tyson has is his size. So do you guys think the size difference is important or not?

[@richardfairclough2960]

Imagine talking bad about fighter and talking about boxing when you have never put gloves on - Simon Jordan

[@anthonyjames4247]

Fury doing a lot of talking, not a lot of fighting.

[@clives344]

Its been awhile since Tyson has had a proper heavyweight fight

[@figaroconstantine]

​@@clives344 Let alone a fighter like Usyk... Fury will pull out through injury or lose badly!!

[@deborahvalentine2893]

I think Usyk will school Fury. I think Usyk's ring IQ is superior to Fury's. One cannot say that Anthony Joshua has a low ring IQ or that he's not a heavyweight. I think Usyk will win and Fury will eat all his words and, sadly, there will be a rematch clause. The match I want to see is Usyk vs Sanchez. Now that's a cracker of a fight...

[@busker1]

Head to head all time Usyk would have a shout of being one of the best ever if he wins, I say.

[@salvatorelucania5203]

Jim embarrasing himself not knowing Tyson wasnt the undisputed champion, he beat Berbick for the WBC, Bonecrusher Smith for the WBA and then Tony Tucker for the IBF. The last heavyweight to do it from 1 to 3 in the 3belt era, the WBO was but a stepchild n barely recognised in the US til probably Bernard Hopkins unified the middleweight belts in 2004, IBF in 95, WBC/WBA in 01 and finally the WBO IN O4. Usyk took the majority of the belts from AJ in 21 n Fury the WBC from Wilder in 2020 just b4 lockdown.

[@rob1969in]

Yeah and he didn't hide his embarrassment very well did he ,dunno how either him or Simon are employed to talk about something they've never done ,lost all respect for Jordan when he called Connor Benn a nice lad!

[@sturm4n]

Spencer is right about if fury looses to USYk, that it’ll take something away from the Joshua/fury fight ( if it ever happens 😅 ). But we still WANT to see it!

[@freedom4life123]

and when aj beats him too it will be the icing on the cake 😁😁😁😁

[@truthseeker3293]

Aj couldn’t beat testical belly twice , he defo ain’t beating greedy belly

[@mikehunt1528]

Usyk wins on points.

[@danieljones7501]

Mike if it goes to points don’t you think they will rob him

[@figaroconstantine]

Fury gets knocked out mate.. Usyk wont let him settle and Fury will panic and get caught with a counter.. That's if he doesn't pull out for the 5th time!!

[@danieljones7501]

@@figaroconstantine I hope so hope your right these judges just worry me

[@figaroconstantine]

@@danieljones7501 I've got a feeling Usyk is already aware of this and he's training for a KO or stoppage.. 🤔

[@danieljones7501]

@@figaroconstantine what a boxer he is eh

[@dogpoofairy2517]

Fury's toughest fight was against cruiserweight Cunningham. Fury talking out of his backside as usual.

[@Hbw113]

As an Englishman, I’m routing for Usyk all the way!

[@IceCold100]

Why?

[@davidjones532]

@@IceCold100because he’s the better boxer

[@DavidGoldX]

@@IceCold100Why not?

[@DavidGoldX]

I’m rooting for Usyk too

[@t.d6379]

Wrongun

[@dogpoofairy2157]

Tyson Fury will never fight Usyk

[@KMD-qj1qc]

Can’t see any boxer right now beating a all time great crusier weight legend like Usyk, he’s too good for the current heavyweight division

[@mdcmdc1]

Come on Fury 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@TonyErgonie]

Fury looked shot to be bits against a novice, Usyk will buzzsaw him

[@thelegendarydeikay3071]

usyk didn't look great against a fighter in dubois who is levels below fury

[@MrIDFWU]

@@thelegendarydeikay3071Dubois still has a lot more power than fury 👍🏽

[@craniumcrux]

​@@thelegendarydeikay3071 he won every second of every round against dubois and didn't get out of second gear.

[@oPeY4President]

@@thelegendarydeikay3071That’s a dumb reply because Dubois is not Fury’s level but he’s started contending for World titles and his rank so he’s not far off, also Dubois is levels above Ngannou in terms of boxing ability, movement and danger (by danger I mean both are big punchers but Ngannou has more power, but DD has better setups and delivery so will land cleaner with more power) and a ‘not great’ Usyk still did way better and stopped Dubois whilst having physical disadvantages, compared to Fury who just about won against Ngannou (Big Ngannou fan lool :( made me sad ), And even stylistically, Usyk brought a fight to Dubois, Fury looked scared to engage.

[@freedom4life123]

@@thelegendarydeikay3071 Deluded fanboy detected

[@lewismacdonald4378]

Anyone who knows boxing... Tyson win s the bout

[@markrobertson2774]

Usyk is good but seriously struggled against the great derek chisora & daniel dubois..Tyson leagues above in comparison..A league of his own, Tyson Wins this by stoppage maybe within 6 rounds...

[@tallguy9425]

I swear these guys never give Usyk any credit. If a champ is not british or american they barely mention them.

[@DaneHolt-nc6vz]

It’s hilarious isn’t it 😂.

[@hendrix9087]

Fury is a conman. He is preparing to pullout again

[@niccolopaganini1782]

You must be out of your mind to think Fury will pull out. There are higher chances of Fury outspeeding and outboxing Usyk than Fury pulling out.

[@minibikemafia]

He has pulled out 2-3 times already...why is this time different? Monday is the deadline....70/30...oops, I let a midget cut me....any of this sound familiar? ​@@niccolopaganini1782

[@derithomas2052]

He’s got himself into very good shape just to pull out

[@Technics_Trader]

@@niccolopaganini1782 hes pulled out twice already

[@niccolopaganini1782]

@@Technics_Trader the situations were different then. This time it's Saudi and Saudi money, and there's fine if he pulls out. I think Fury would rather lose the fight than lose money.

[@lucky55slevin75]

So according to Fury on the size matters argument, if Usyk wins it can only mean Fury is not an Elite Heavyweight.

[@mcuk88]

According to fury’s logic yes, it means Fury is a terrible heavyweight. If he loses there will be a different excuse. Just wasn’t to see them in the ring first. Won’t be surprised if fury is seen with a pint in his hand the night before the fight just for the cameras!

[@Nomad7656]

He’s not an elite HW. He is a very huge heavyweight with average skills.

[@richmondosei-owusu1518]

It seems apparent that Fury fans already have their excuses ready in case he loses. Simon's comparison between Fury's performances against Wilder and Ngannou suggests that if Fury loses to Usyk, they'll attribute it to him not being at his best. Essentially, they'll argue that Fury's only loss is due to him not being in top form. This perception might downplay the skills of his opponents, such as Usyk.

[@davidmccann9811]

And what will the equally obsessed Usyk fans say if their man loses?

[@michaelthompson6885]

Fury was sounding so desperate for people to believe in him, i see a pull out coming.

[@jezzdavis9059]

Tyson has to be bad as he was against Ngannou for Usyk to win? Jordan's an idiot.

[@SworBeyE16]

Fury defence league

[@dogpoofairy2517]

Usyk would have to be as bad as he was against Chisora to lose to Fury.

[@SworBeyE16]

@@dogpoofairy2517 He wasn't even bad that night, although he said that he was in fairly poor physical condition. I think it was more a clash of styles, a style that Fury can't possibly emulate.

[@Cuffy108]

⁠@@SworBeyE16but fury can. He can maul and bully people on the inside far more effectively than chisora can and fury isn’t going to gas

[@SworBeyE16]

@@Cuffy108 Fury didnt gas against Ngannou?

[@SamClaybrook]

Spencer- usyk won’t be an all time great If beats fury he’s still got work to do. Also spencer- if AJ wins another title he’s an all time great

[@indianelvisbal7769]

Its Going to be a Draw Then Fury to win Rematch

[@JohnFisherChoir]

Brah what has spencer got against usyk, how would usyk not be an all time great if he becomes undisputed heavyweight after being undisputed cruiserweight

[@infesteddeebs]

He's also fought as many top 10 ranked HW's in 3 years as Fury has in 9. Absolutely absurd to say he has more work to do, he's a shoe in for the hall of fame already.

[@lolade_akinola]

Expert my ass

[@gavinmcleod7446]

Jordan just doesn’t have a clue sometimes, Wilder doesn’t have the footwork, hand-speed and IQ of Usyk - the old adage “ Styles make fights…Usyk points win.

[@declanosullivan8749]

Fragile? The fights not even gonna happen. Something will happen to Fury again

[@supervalueonline3830]

“If the of fury turns up” he does talk a lot of rubbish 😂 “he comes forward because of his knees and he is not the same fight” 😂 Simon talks soo much smack.

[@user-sd9of1vq6r]

Spencer saying usyk 3 years at heavyweight when his last fight at cruiser was 2018 vs bellew so more like 5 to 6 years.

[@michealdexter1188]

Not to mention Usyk has fought at super heavyweight in the amateurs

[@AurelAvramescu]

@@michealdexter1188nope, he fought in WBS at super hw.

[@AlexM-sg8fn]

For an ex boxer, is incredible how little Spencer seems to know about boxing!

[@muppetsshowupatspeakerscor579]

I prefer the rabbit to the giraffe 🦒

[@ryanwilson5548]

Fury going back to his old slick style isn’t going to pay out for him

[@user-uh2cr9so8l]

Boxing certainly didn’t work for aj so it is a risk

[@figaroconstantine]

There's no version of Tyson Fury that beats Usyk or AJ!! Otherwise he would've fought them already 🤷‍♂️

[@daveandmerlin]

Has Usyk not beaten the Monster that is AJ twice who has way more power than Fury ....or did I imagine that ?

[@davidmccann9811]

There is much more to boxing than just power.

[@daveandmerlin]

@@davidmccann9811 but Fury was talking about the Uysk being to small ...6ft 3 and 16 stone isn't that small and he's seen off the Monsters that are AJ and Dubious so I don't think that he's going to be to concerned with Fury .

[@davidbrady1825]

AJ gasses

[@daveandmerlin]

@@davidbrady1825 and Fury is some super fit athlete ??

[@AdamPorter-db6eo]

the fragile argument fury has been down 7 times in his career at heavyweight, USYK hasnt been down once yet. If anything its fury who looks more vulnerable and easy to hit.

[@mikestray76]

Yes but Fury has had 34 fights at heavyweight, Usyk has only had 6 and you're much more likely to get knocked down in the heavyweight division simply by the fact they're bigger punchers.

[@craniumcrux]

​@@mikestray76yes Nevin Pajkic was a renowned heavy hitter.

[@freedom4life123]

@@mikestray76 Deluded fanboy detected

[@interstellarbeatteller9306]

@@freedom4life123 Copy & Paste bot detected

[@infesteddeebs]

@@mikestray76 Brother, one of the guys in those 7 knockdowns is Steve Cunningham - a Cruiserweight with a significantly worse knockout rate than Usyk. Fury just gets hit a lot more than Usyk does which is why he's been down a bunch of times.

[@stephenstrange4239]

Usyk dsnt care of being a GOAT..he just wants to win undisputed once.if he wins he will probably retire..i dont think its all n only about the money with this guy.if Flabs wins is thr any point in Usyk going for the rematch..the 2nd fight wont be for undisputed..if he does it will only be to avenge the L. Im just not confident its gonna be all totally above board.Turki wants Flabs to win n what Turki wants Turki gets.I dont see Usyk KO'ing Flabs..sure the cut could open n u could get a doc's stoppage but the Wallin fight wasnt stopped so why would this? Just want an honest fight with no controversy.

[@joewhite22]

It's surprising Fury has banned these guys from his fights when he loves a good yes man around him. They should have all been at the front row of his press conference yesterday.

[@rockybalboap7763]

big daddy bowe and evander ? would smash fury and joshua together !!!

[@80sknightrider]

Love Simon and Jim’s show but I’ve had to stop watching it. Talk sport adverts every 11 mins is just to much coupled with constant KZbin adverts. It’s really off putting for the platform and the show. Instead I watch these little clips that will have to do. Team usyk all the way, beat that compulsive liar. Many many fans simply are tired of the same old fury tropes. I see his face on KZbin I skip everyday of the weak.

[@t.f.1345]

If your android user inform yourself about revanced. If you are an iphone user downlad video lite from the app store. Thank me later.

[@Metso-ateco]

Tyson v spinks was for undisputed ffs lads🤷‍♂️

[@TY-km8hj]

Yep, unrelated but i feel bad for Spinks. He's one of the best LHWs, dethroned Larry Holmes after he dominated for so long coming close to Joe Louis record, only to then have his entire career overshadowed by his one and only loss to Mike Tyson. Its sad

[@AurelAvramescu]

True, but that time was a 2 belts era: WBA and WBC.

[@Metso-ateco]

@@AurelAvramescu no, you forgot the ibf, wbo came along in 89, 90ish....

[@TY-km8hj]

@@Metso-ateco facts

[@davidmccann9811]

The era was a 3 belt era (WBA/WBC/IBF). The WBO started in 1988, but was years before any of us took it seriously. Tyson became undisputed champion when he beat Tony Tucker the year before he beat Spinks.

[@fergusstevenston8409]

Did Talk Sport not get invited to Morcambe?

[@scottjones9362]

Fury is not 6 feet 9 inches tall. When you see him in a group gym photo with other big guys, look at his feet. He is on his toes making him look taller. These photos are out there if you look for them. He lies about everything in his life then contradicts that lie with another one a week later

[@Tower-bl9kk]

💯 I met Fury a number of years ago at a theatre in the West End and I’m 6’6 and stood in front of Fury…he’s 6’8 max and I suspect slightly shorter than that. Defo over 6’6 since I had a look up only slightly.

[@christom2502]

Wilder is deffo 6"7 and fury was taller you goon wtf??

[@stuartm4921]

Spencer still crying he beat Joshua two times.

[@fastbandit1250]

Fury giving the flash presser to try and gain popularity again, really can’t see fury turning up, he knows that usyk work rate would tie fury in knots and gas him out, fury a lot of things but stupid he ain’t, he’s a boxing historian and knows a class act when he sees it, and he sees a class act in usyk and will avoid him to save face from defeat, fury not got the legs he had in the klitchco fight

[@rock3786]

Fury always struggled with smaller technical boxers it will be a great fight

[@angusielts7.00]

Fury looked totally psychotic in his post-conference interviews. Fidgeting hands, hopping around, calling people 'ugly little man', facial twitches. He's going to be a nightmare to deal with when he retires.

[@danpricop6670]

Fury was accounted against Ngannou,a nurser in prof boxing...and Fury still talking about boxing...???

[@LifeOfRy]

Odds on Fury stepping on one of his kids' Lego sets and pulling out 2 days before the fight?

[@kieranroberts6832]

Fury can show up 100% he will still get bet by usyk , some pundits haven't a clue

[@noorhussain3127]

Twice on a sunday like francis n bongo go's on😂😂😂😂

[@AlanBarker-lb6vu]

Let ne say something on size for a 2nd because its so missed judged by boxing fans and pundits. = when a smaller guy is boxing a bigger guy then what he has to do is uses his feet and speed and low center of gravity to take away the hight and reach as the bigger will be slower. Most of the time so if its a boxing match and the bigger just cant pin the smaller guy then it just gets to difficult. If its far more of a fight and the old leaning and using your attributes on the inside and wear the smaller guy out if you can catch him enough then thats when the bigger has the advantage. The way i see usyk and fury isnt that much difference to my first statement tbh im not sure fury or these talksport pundits realise how good usyk is as a boxer. Hes written off so easily on size

[@domavery7527]

Fragile get a grip how many times has fury been down not exactly a defensive genius

[@Andrew-rb4km]

He gets up though doesn't roll around on the floor crying out foul 😂😂😂😂😂

[@domavery7527]

@@Andrew-rb4km usuk will wipe the floor with him and a low blow is a low blow

[@Dan-nz5be]

The majority said he wouldn't beat wlad, they said he wouldn't beat Wilder and what happened? Now the majority saying he won't be at usyk. Let's see if fury gets the credit he deserves when beat usyk. I reckon we will hear all the people saying usyk will beat fury saying he was to small and not good enough when he loses. Or maybe just finally give fury the credit he deserves of being the greatest heavyweight of this era when he beats usyk because it will be unquestionable.

[@garyjohnson3751]

Life outside of boxing is 💯 % correct and! Joshua will have a fantastic career on the pantomime circuit 👌

[@infesteddeebs]

Yes Spencer - Usyk, who has never been knocked down in his professional career looks fragile because he was hurt by an illegal shot in his last fight. But Tyson Fury, who's been down 7 times in his career, including in his last fight against a man with zero professional boxing matches does not apparently. Absolute rubbish.

[@ianlloyd6812]

I think Fury is aware that Usyk is the one guy that can beat him! In watching whenever they have met, Fury appears unnerved to me, by Usyks lack of response to his antics. That Fury looks exceptionally fit amd ready tomfoght now….may weeks before the actual fight is a warning sign for him! He knows that danger and has over prepared! Usyk will beat him and take thentitles when they meet…..if they meet.

[@LeonBlack-it7qy]

Why does everyone keep saying Furys legs have gone ? He changed styles to beat Wilder and it looks like he's now going back to his slim on your toes for 12 rounds style to me. He'll have to use abit of everything in his locker to beat Usyk. Keeping it a distance with his jab and then going to his body every chance he gets. Usyk is gonna run tho Fury will have to be at his fittest.

[@alkuya546]

I disagree Holyfield beat Riddick Bowe and Holyfield won the second Lennox Lewis fight but he didn't get the decision because of the controversy of the first fight.Holyfield said he went into the first Lennox Lewis fight suffering from stomach issues,if what happened in the second fight with Lewis happened in the first fight I believe Holyfield would have got the decision

[@Nomad7656]

I agree with you 100% about Lewis 2. Vegas judges tried to “correct” the judges in NYC.

[@slaveman2818]

There’s too much talking these days in boxing and less fighting

[@awbox1]

I do agree with theres weight classes for a resson but people act like Usyk wasnt a huge cruiserweight. He had to cut weight to get down to cruiser and he only did that bcus he had a dream of copying holyfield and being undisputed in two divisions, he could have easily been a heavyweight from the start of his pro career like he was for 200+ of his 350 amateur fights , david haye, hokyfield, nelseon were all aversge size cruiserweights and small heavyweights, Usyk almost 6'4 and hes 16 stone, that aint that small for a heavyweight. He could add fat to his body and be the same size as dillion whyte, chisora, parker ect, difference is hes lean muscle with no fat at all, to me Usyk isnt a small heavyweight, hes a normal sized heavyweight thats in better condition than most the guys around him who weight more because they all carry more fat than him. When he stands kpposute fury the size difference isnt that much the top of usyks head comes up to furys eyebrows. The more people talk about the size difference the worse its gns look for fury when/if he loses.

[@davidmccann9811]

Too much is being made of this height difference, as even if it is 6" that is pretty much the height of a persons forehead. None the less, Usyk is on the smaller side for a modern heavyweight.

[@Dale-ew1ix]

First thing bellew said to radio 5 live in his interview after been ko'd by usyk was you dont realise how big he is until you're in the ring with him. Russ abner said before usyk went to heavyweight that people shouldn't be asking if he is big enough but question how tf he made cruiserweight. Usyk is a unit and in the face off when fury tried to get rough it was fury who got pushed about. Nobody has ever pushed usyk about in a clinch he has always pushed them about,not AJ not chisora,not gassiev nobody and fury wont either

[@awbox1]

@@davidmccann9811 weight wise hes a stoje lighter than most, but height wise hes the aversge size heavyweight, as big as Ruiz, Pulev, Povetkin, Parker, Chisora, Dubois ect just not as big as the giant heavyweights like Fury and AJ

[@charleysmith7030]

The lack of knowledge form spencer being a former boxer on the game amazes me Tyson was never undisputed, the only heavyweight who did was Lewis and he never technically did it as he was stripped before the fight

[@lighstormlightstorm9024]

Its a 50/50 fight I think, but talksport arent the ones to listen to as they just hype up fury all the time. Usyk seems like an afterthought to these ppl. Depends who can execute their best assets the best and take control of fight. Fury would have to use his size to try and get close to usyk and corner him in ring , to try and stop him moving. Usyk will use his fast footwork to evade shots and set up punches. Gonna be an interesting fight, if it happens. Might go down to a points win either way. Who knows with Fury, he might still find a way to pull out of fight.

[@davidmault6925]

They are so dismissive of Usyk.

[@REP2016RTM]

Fury conveniently ignores the fact that Holyfield also beat Mike Tyson, a legendary natural heavyweight who he's named after. History will repeat when Fury loses to Usyk

[@Holy_Athletics]

Will you give fury credit if he wins and admit you were wrong?

[@adambrown550]

The disrespect that Simon shows Usyk is unreal. No acknowledgement of what he achieved, it's all TYSON TYSON TYSON. You're going to look silly on May 18th... and I say that as someone who wants us to have British Champions. Fury is going to be shown to be all talk.

[@kin3249]

Simon really doesn't know boxing " if fury turns up like he did against wilder hell beat usyk" ...Jesus that's bad, wilders not in the same galaxy as usyk skill wise

[@BigStuCorby]

Only a few weeks away from another fake injury or fake mental health problems 👃❄️❄️❄️

[@elecelec5581]

😂😂😂

[@leeb8019]

Usyk is as big as Mohammed Ali. Usyk is not a small heavyweight; he was not a small cruiser weight.

[@Andrew-rb4km]

He's a small heavyweight in todays heavy division

[@davidmccann9811]

Usyk isn't fighting in the 1970s, he's fighting now. And heavyweights are generally bigger now.

[@leeb8019]

@@davidmccann9811 That is not true. There have always been big 6’5 + boxers on the heavy weight scene. And if it’s a huge factor as Fury is stating then we would have seen more of them dominating the division. 6’3 is not small and the height of the guy who has won all of his fights at heavyweight including a former champ and is the current unified champ. I don’t see height making as much of a difference now, or prior, as what Fury is claiming.

[@leeb8019]

@@Andrew-rb4km Ali was a small Heavyweight champ in 67 when he fought Ernie Terrell in another unification fight by Tyson Fury’s reckoning Ali should have lost but he beat him and Terrell was 6’6. I don’t ever see height being a dominant factor as much as Fury is stating.

[@paulhaley5009]

When uysk beats fury he's just the greatest...he's done everything we can ask for..just to good..a true champion 🏆..

[@rob1969in]

Talk sport are trying to get back in Furys good books here😂 and Jim really embarrassed himself with the Mike Tyson knowledge there..

[@treyakasprings]

Not in 50 million years is Tyson fury beating usyk.

[@Holy_Athletics]

If fury wins, will you admit you were wrong. And give tyson full credit?

[@fergusstevenston8409]

Tyson is lankey and uncoordinated, and Usyk is gunna exploit that.

[@ednagoode890]

Tyson trying to convince himself usyk weight is a game changer.. The cruiserweight gonna stick and move, Tyson will fall over his feet come fight night

[@fergusstevenston8409]

AJ can’t be arsed with Tyson anymore, that non fight will not define his legacy l.

[@Holy_Athletics]

Aj too busy fighting low ranked opponents

[@chesterbliven9740]

Thank you Alex

[@scozza7150]

Can’t compare Joshua with these two, levels below from a boxing perspective. I expect a good fight, Fury needs to rough him up early on so he is gased in the later rounds if he doesn’t spark him. I will say Fury puts Usyk out in 8 it also gives him a full body workout lol. Forget the FN fight, that means nothing. Tyson just tried to trade bombs with him. Cmon TF ✊

[@FiveTwo_Nick]

Size doesn't matter, trust me

[@paulherlihy9290]

I still have my doubts about this fight actually happening.

[@eoinmaguire860]

Holyfield Lewis bowe would have beat tyson fury

[@edarowan7388]

Usyk will win this come on lads🙄

[@clives344]

Tyson i see as the underdog in this fight so he might surprise us?

[@yurilytviak9066]

Boxing fans are way too forgiving of corruption . It makes the sport somewhat of a bad joke , which it ought not be ….

[@RickEllwood]

I'm not a great follower of boxing but I've been taken down the Tyson v Jake Paul tunnel but because of that I have what I feel is a more sizemastic event in this Tyson fight...Is Frank Warren loosing it and maybe this is proof that he doesn't understand current marketing promotional methods.

[@john7360]

So the logic is which Tyson Fury turns up but not which Usyk turns up. Clowns

[@davidmccann9811]

It's pretty obvious which Usyk will show up, as he is always pretty much the same (slightly past his best). Which Fury shows up is indeed more of a question. If in the unlikely event it's the one that showed against Ngannou, then Tyson is finished.

[@lewismacdonald4378]

Fury wins this, no doubt what so ever. Just watch