🤔 Ashwin's SURPRISE Retirement "India's Greatest Test Cricketer" | Following On India 🎙️

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@koushik990srpt
@koushik990srpt 3 күн бұрын
Jarrod - Thanks for giving an exact rundown of Ash the player! You put into words in a way we fail to.
@foresthill8462
@foresthill8462 3 күн бұрын
Ashwin is a legend of Indian cricket. Better bowler and batter than he got credit for. If Jadeja didn't exist, he would have been India's best or second best all-rounder (after Kapil).
@sumbdi
@sumbdi 3 күн бұрын
Yes totally agree with it
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Yes best all-rounder on rank turners. Because he doesn't get runs or wkts in sena countries
@deepakkairalath
@deepakkairalath 3 күн бұрын
@@mayankdewli1010bro whatever home or overseas 500 test wickets is not everyone’s cup of tea, it’s a huge achievement! In world cricket only few spinners has 500 plus test wickets in the likes of murali, warnie,kumble and Lyon ! Even Aswin has 6 test centuries too! What else do you need !
@sunilkumar-lz3jw
@sunilkumar-lz3jw 2 күн бұрын
​@@mayankdewli1010Are you being serious here, He is an Indian so its obvious he will get spin friendly wickets and tell me how many players especially bowlers or all rounder except 1 or 2 , from Sena countries have performed well consistently (not a single series or match) in Asian countries. Appreciate what he has achieved in his career and I am guessing you are an Indian, Ashwin is the only second Indian player who has taken more than 500 wickets in test cricket (over 750+ plus wickets in all formats) on top of this he has decent batting (6 test centuries) record for someone who has played mostly at 8 or 9 for whole his career. You don't need to be his fan to praise him for what he has achieved, just be a appreciative cricket fan.
@philm3967
@philm3967 3 күн бұрын
I think Jarrod's provided the best and most insightful summation of Ashwin the cricketer that you will see among the many ritual tributes that have been paid by the cricketing world since he made that shock decision to retire. He is probably the best captain India never had , a cerebral and feisty man who was not given the job simply because his skills were always underrated and he did not have a guaranteed place in the side due to being faultily stereotyped as a spinner who could not play overseas. He should have been an automatic choice in the side but poorly conceived notions of 'balance' between bat and ball ensured that he was never given a fair run especially abroad. He might have ended up with far more wickets and runs than he actually did and played a few more years . I think he realised the game was up after Sundar outshone both him and Jadeja in the New Zealand series back home. The lack of adequate game time in Australia probably convinced him that it was time to go when people asked why and not when.
@sumbdi
@sumbdi 3 күн бұрын
Sundar outshine ashwin not jadega.
@philm3967
@philm3967 3 күн бұрын
@@sumbdi Jadeja performed to expectations only in the third and final test against NZ in Mumbai. Although Jadeja eventually ended up with the same number of wickets in the series as Sundar, that was largely due to the one off display in Mumbai. Both he and Ashwin were disappointing in the other two tests, a key reason for India's first series loss at home in many years.
@sumbdi
@sumbdi 3 күн бұрын
@@philm3967 nope we lost the series against NZ bcz of our batting not bowling,just check the kind of shots our top order played it was careless, overconfidence and senseless. 1) VK getting out to rubbish delivery of santner in 2nd test 1st innings, infact in that innings most of the batsman played poor shots 2)In 3rd test just 10min before the end of play Jaiswal reckless reverse sweep, kohli stupid runout. 3) rohit playing reckless shots against fast bowlers So for such stupidity how can bowlers be blamed?? Sundar outbowled jadega in 2nd test 1st innings, but from 2nd innings onwards it was even Steven both with the bat and ball. It's been 1.5 months we lost the test series but it's surprising that still people are blaming our bowlers but main culprit are our batsman.
@LyricalMurderer1
@LyricalMurderer1 3 күн бұрын
@@sumbdicorrect - people need to understand that if your top five can’t consistently give your 250 odd runs then you are always in trouble no matter how magical your bowling is…
@sumbdi
@sumbdi 3 күн бұрын
@@LyricalMurderer1 yes and that's been the case with Indian team since last 4-5 years and it's mostly our lower order batsman like jadeja, ashwin, axar who used to save us from batting collapses, Against NZ unfortunately jadeja, ashwin couldn't make much of a impact with the bat bcz of which we lost the series.
@biggiesmalls4873
@biggiesmalls4873 3 күн бұрын
As an aussie cricket fan, I hate Ashwin. I hate him so much. The pain he has put me through, and the frustrations i have felt. As a former grade cricket finger spinner, i hate Ashwin even more. The ridiculous talent and the impossible variations. Ashwin is in my eyes the 3rd best spinner ever. Ive seen him bowl well in Australia and then get shafted....he was starting to work out overseas test bowling and then India went in a different direction. Such a pity. He is a legend. I hope he becomes a bowling coach (hopefully for Australia) , and a commentator and a social media guru. The cricket world needs his cricket brain.
@abhinavyadav1881
@abhinavyadav1881 3 күн бұрын
Great video Jarrod!! Happiness on your face when you going deep on Ashwin's masterclass not only just a cricketer but a philosopher scientist and a great human❤
@arunminnas
@arunminnas 3 күн бұрын
Ashwin was never given a fair run overseas. He would have been able to deliver the same results as he did in India had he been given a consistent run. He is smart and would have worked out a plan to get wickets abroad. No one can be effective when they are not sure of their place in the side. Interestingly Australian wickets would have suited him well given the bounce. It's a case of what if. Shane Warne and Muralitharan were automatic choices everywhere as also Anil Kumble. Even Kumble struggled overseas and came good abroad, towards the latter part of his career.
@vishwanathr844
@vishwanathr844 3 күн бұрын
I don't think anyone can be greater than Jas Bumrah. Not because of his current form alone, but he is a genuinely good guy. I think he is a great mentor as well. Never flustered by anything. Does his job, no run-ins with the board or favoring one player over another. He takes what he gets. He'll do more than his best at all times and accept any situation (win or lose) with a smile at the end of the day. Lot to learn from him as a person.
@hiniru
@hiniru 3 күн бұрын
Loved this one. Hav always the feeling when Ashwin plays, one of us playing just after finishing a podcast. He did bring out so many things out of onfield and dressing room culture and showed the world of off-field and included all in process of playing cricket..❤
@donjohndemarco
@donjohndemarco 3 күн бұрын
Unrelated but as an Indian who LOVES smart Cricket, I wanted to call out Martin Crowe as well. And Arjuna Ranatunga. These 2 were superb strategists AND tacticians. Its a massive tribute to Ashwin that he is mentioned in this kind of hallowed company.
@20shourya
@20shourya 12 сағат бұрын
Arjuna Ranatunga is my fitness idol, I dedicate my chocolate cake and pies to him every night.
@thecricketfanofficial8092
@thecricketfanofficial8092 3 күн бұрын
I can see in the future lot of team will hire Ashwin as a bowling consultant particular for tour or series overall he can do anything commentary coaching advisor selector he is a great cricketing mind
@vishwanathr844
@vishwanathr844 3 күн бұрын
When someone has announced their retirement in the middle of the series, obviously they personally wouldn't want the board to foot their bills for the rest of it. What is he going to do in the dressing room, hotel anyway feeling the board is footing the bill for his "advice to his former colleagues." That's like being paid to be on vacation and Ashwin is a proud guy and has done the right thing by deciding to leave tomorrow. I'm sure the retirement itself has got to do with family and being close to his mother. Besides, he's 38 and not a fitness freak - how long did people expect him to continue?
@rogerIndianKing
@rogerIndianKing 3 күн бұрын
“Greatest” is always subjective. One of greats for sure!
@ravikarmarkar1507
@ravikarmarkar1507 2 күн бұрын
Ashwin clearly didn't want to be in the spotlight after retirement. He said in the press conference that he doesn't want it to be about him. That's why he decided to pack his bags and go home the next day. Looking forward to Ashwin the commentator! There can't be a better cricketing mind on comms than him!
@arunminnas
@arunminnas 3 күн бұрын
I agree with the assessment that Bumrah, if he continues his form for another few years will be India's greatest cricketer. He is India's best paceman ever.
@shrutarshipaul4934
@shrutarshipaul4934 3 күн бұрын
I think the fact that Indian pace bowlers can't bat in overseas conditions meant Ashwin could not enter the team as a pure bowler. This is unfortunate but true.Imagine Nathan Lyon, he can play as a pure bowler because Cummins and Starc can bat.
@easwarsankar
@easwarsankar 3 күн бұрын
Well, Indian batsmen couldn't bat overseas either
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Yes because Ashwin can't get in as pure bowler. He can't get wkts in sena countries. He's only suitable for rank turners. Jadeja better batsman and fielder, so he gets in
@edgefanCWC
@edgefanCWC 3 күн бұрын
An absolute legend 👏
@BalaSankaran
@BalaSankaran 2 күн бұрын
Incredible tribute to Ash... Thank You..A National Treasure
@jumpinJUMBO
@jumpinJUMBO 2 күн бұрын
Mr Kimber its really awesome to hear you, the way you put across your thoughts...
@shancharan7834
@shancharan7834 3 күн бұрын
Ashwin could've stayed until the Sydney test. He is better spinner in foreign condition comparing to Jadeja and Washington. A part from Bumrah, bowling is also an issue for India
@SandeepRamesh-q2k
@SandeepRamesh-q2k 3 күн бұрын
Nobody who can exemplify the Chennai Cricket Nerd more than Chennai's most celebrated cricketer
@Anonymous-xy6nh
@Anonymous-xy6nh 3 күн бұрын
@23:30 Jarrod is talking about Pdogg , Prasanna Aghoram former South African Performance Analyst!
@ekshitpatel9424
@ekshitpatel9424 3 күн бұрын
5:35 South African left hander batsman is Stiaan van Zyl
@shannat4566
@shannat4566 2 күн бұрын
Ashwin was being snubbed and humiliated for years despite being match winner on multiple occasions. King Ashwin will be remembered forever
@durisetinarasimharao7977
@durisetinarasimharao7977 3 күн бұрын
First our great batsmen both kohili and Rohit should retire from test cricket
@prafullaphadke
@prafullaphadke 3 күн бұрын
@jarrod - fantastically portrayed Ashwin, you are a Legend in your own art. 😇
@RamAliChristo
@RamAliChristo 3 күн бұрын
No home series in coming season. He was sure he wont be picked in away tours. So he decided to move on for club cricket inside india by not being a burden in the 15 member squad.
@jeevankikahaniya6339
@jeevankikahaniya6339 3 күн бұрын
Kumble bowl in more batting friendly wicket ...and still won india matches
@sudhamagopalan3522
@sudhamagopalan3522 3 күн бұрын
Nothing surprising about how Australia approached the second inning. The batters who needed a hit for their own confidence and the ones who were in good nick did their own thing. The composite effort came off as schizophrenic...
@rajeshiimahd
@rajeshiimahd 3 күн бұрын
Gonna miss "Commmoon Aaasshhh"😢
@easwarsankar
@easwarsankar 3 күн бұрын
He didnt play so many tests abroad because the management kept trying to coddle our brittle batting lineups who have no accountability
@Drake-xc2qd
@Drake-xc2qd 2 күн бұрын
Everyone is greatest when they retire
@sam1200martin
@sam1200martin 3 күн бұрын
Can sundar match Ashwin the bowler ? Can Kuldeep match ashwin the batter ?
@lj4daniel70
@lj4daniel70 3 күн бұрын
Can Sundar!! Yes Sundar is better batter already and he will become better as he plays for sure...he has the skills and taking wickets in india as a spinner is not a big thing as we play on rank turners...
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Kuldeep is ten times better on pitches that are not rank turners. Kuldeep is a proper spinner. For batting there's jadeja
@siddhantjain244
@siddhantjain244 3 күн бұрын
@@mayankdewli1010 He's played 2 games in SENA countries and taken just 5 wickets. Yes he has a higher strike rate, but Ashwin's economy is far far better than Kuldeep's.
@ShubhamSingh-rl8gf
@ShubhamSingh-rl8gf 3 күн бұрын
Sunder has it all to achieve even greater heights than Ashwin
@mnindrramgarhia7737
@mnindrramgarhia7737 3 күн бұрын
I think axar would be instead of kuldeep or washi👍
@KICK839
@KICK839 3 күн бұрын
Yes...
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Greatest on rank turners. Thats a very specific niche
@20shourya
@20shourya 12 сағат бұрын
Ashwin was probably the last Indian spinner who could actually turn the ball (okay Kuldeep a bit too), the others are just straight bowlers, this includes Axar Patel, Sundar and the great Anil Kumble hahaha. Anyway two great spinners retired in one week, Ashwin and Southee.
@Abhi_0893
@Abhi_0893 3 күн бұрын
Maybe they knew rohit would use bumrah for a short spell at the start and sent in marsh and head mostly after that spell was done.
@amaledward2147
@amaledward2147 3 күн бұрын
BCCI treats everyone better, that’s why he had to retire mid series in an oversees game
@Karthik6499
@Karthik6499 3 күн бұрын
Fair play to Saurabh Somani. He has decided to be Talksport's cricket version of Troy Deeney. Make ridiculous claims that can be posted on thumbnails and circulated as clips. At first I thought he meant cricketer = all-rounder. Its fair enough to say Ashwin is the best India has had. Then he spoke about Sachin. Pure clickbait.
@alenanto6491
@alenanto6491 3 күн бұрын
That statement is quite hyperbolic tbh . Great player . One of the best spinners india has produced. But not the greatest.
@NagaSiddharthaVemuri-jd8ji
@NagaSiddharthaVemuri-jd8ji 3 күн бұрын
Sunil Gavaskar ji is and will always be India's greatest test cricketer.
@foodsafari-rj3uq
@foodsafari-rj3uq 3 күн бұрын
Probably the second greatest test batsman, nothing else. Poor captain. Poor team man. Average fielder.
@anandidantas4382
@anandidantas4382 3 күн бұрын
Great
@joshianand3877
@joshianand3877 3 күн бұрын
No disrespect to Ashwin , But Jadeja role of Jadeja...!!
@LyricalMurderer1
@LyricalMurderer1 3 күн бұрын
Your sentence structure makes 0 sense…
@raamcaash
@raamcaash 3 күн бұрын
Jarrod … me think he will be a great partner for your podcast and or you can collaborate ..
@vibhorchoudhary3765
@vibhorchoudhary3765 3 күн бұрын
As good as Ashwin was he was not great than kumble .got most of his wickets on turners, had the advantage of bowling to not good players of spin ,DRS and technology which kumble never had.If kumble had DRS in his time.
@pradyuthande3505
@pradyuthande3505 3 күн бұрын
There's another way to look at this. Kumble also had the advantage of benefitting from dubious Indian umpiring and playing a lot more abroad in the absence of another stellar spinner.
@foodsafari-rj3uq
@foodsafari-rj3uq 3 күн бұрын
​@@pradyuthande3505 Harbhajjan played with Kumble for a long part of his career. Kumble was probably the better bowler but Ashwin is the better cricketer overall.
@tonylove4800
@tonylove4800 3 күн бұрын
Sorry. Kumbli, Kapil, Tendulkar before Ashwin.
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
They could have at least invited west Indies for a 2 test series and made rank turners so that Ashwin could have taken a five wkt haul and retired on a high. They did the same for Sachin when he couldn't get runs on away tours. Ashwin knows he won't get rank turners in India after India's loss against NZ. If he plays in sena countries, it only ruins his bowling average. He should thank kohli and Rohit for not picking him for sena countries and enhancing his bowling average. Imagine a batsman who only plays on flat pitches! Ashwin is the bowling equivalent of such a Batsman
@shubhamkumar-gx5vx
@shubhamkumar-gx5vx 3 күн бұрын
Ashwin has pretty decent record in Australia as well. He was not a one track bully
@nikunjdixit3225
@nikunjdixit3225 3 күн бұрын
Spoken like a true idiot who knows nothing what he's talking about. Ashwin comfortably outbowled Lyon when they visited Aus in 20-21. He had enormous contributions in India's Adelaide win in 2018, performed well in Adelaide 2021, MCG 2021, and in Sydney 2022.
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Nope. Stop running PR. He averages 40 odd in Australia. How is that good ? He hasn't picked a single 5 wkt haul in sena countries in 15 years. Average over 40. Anyone can have a couple of good spells. Even Kuldeep has a 6 wkt haul in aus and he didn't get as many chances as Ashwin
@thecricketfanofficial8092
@thecricketfanofficial8092 3 күн бұрын
By your logic lots of greats of the game doesn't have record 100% correct everywhere globly by example glen macgrah doesn't have 5 wicket haul in india Jimmy Anderson doesn't have same record away from home
@siddhantjain244
@siddhantjain244 3 күн бұрын
@@mayankdewli1010 so then half the elite pacers aren't elite because they didn't do well in India? Starc averages 53 in India. Mcgrath averages 57 in India. James Anderson, arguably the greatest pacer of the 2010's, has a strike rate of 66 in India, and 69 in Sri Lanka. Lyon in his home country averages 32. Every bowler needs conditions to some extent, and pitches are great helpers. Every great spinner has not done brilliantly on flat pitches, especially off-spinners because they need the pitch more than leg-spinners.
@sanketkulkarni2390
@sanketkulkarni2390 3 күн бұрын
Crazy this guy is…best test cricketer??? …Rahul,Laxman, Bishang Singh Bedi,Tendulkar Gavaskar and Kapil Devi… Greatest has become such a easy word
@shubhamkumar-gx5vx
@shubhamkumar-gx5vx 3 күн бұрын
I am a huge huge Sachin fan. But I still think he is correct here. Ashwin has got maximum man of the series awards for India in tests for a reason. 3000+ runs and 6 centuries along with 500+ wickets. That's huge. Bowlers win test matches, batsmen only set it up
@souravverma8861
@souravverma8861 3 күн бұрын
test cricket is a bowlers game and he had won india so many test matches, he is a bigger match winner then all of the above apart from kapil dev maybe, in this current generation of players he is the biggest match winner alongside jadeja they both are being replaced by bumrah at an unheard rate, and unlike all of the players in the list and in current team he did not hang around in the team when he was five years past his peak, he left with his head held high
@KICK839
@KICK839 3 күн бұрын
Bowlers automatically become better than batsman.....only Tendulkar or ,rahul ,gavaskar can hold a candle
@karpediem3155
@karpediem3155 3 күн бұрын
Well Jarrod,you excelled yourself from 3.50 onwards,brilliant summary of the man,his machinations and his skills has a bowler.Just as ' precious stones" need a setting,professional cricketers need word artists to picturise what they do.
@Sathish-sd5kb
@Sathish-sd5kb 3 күн бұрын
Yes he is the greatest on recency bias
@sheratankd
@sheratankd 3 күн бұрын
that pool story sounds soooo made up
@manrajs4998
@manrajs4998 3 күн бұрын
The mankand GOAT
@muffadalvohra-l6h
@muffadalvohra-l6h 3 күн бұрын
Again this saurabh guy 🤮🤮🤮
@foodsafari-rj3uq
@foodsafari-rj3uq 3 күн бұрын
Bruh what do you have against him? Because he's Indian?
@tricksbyumer
@tricksbyumer 3 күн бұрын
Home pitch bully.
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Ashwin was the best spinner on rank turners. Thats about it. On decent pitches he was average at best
@shreyansh1364
@shreyansh1364 3 күн бұрын
He has 48 Wickets is Australia. The pitches in India are not always turners. Turners only 4/10 times. Time by time Ashwin has scored runs and taken wickets in those "turners".
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Shreyansh, 48 wkts , yes. But what was his average ? How many 5 wkt hauls in Sena countries? He played for almost 15 years! Why is his average in Sena 40 odd
@clashgamers4072
@clashgamers4072 3 күн бұрын
Ashwin has 40 wickets in 11 matches in Australia. Lyon has 56 wickets in 11 matches in India in the same period . You're dumb if you think Ashwin only performs on rank turners or it's very easy to perform on rank turners
@mayankdewli1010
@mayankdewli1010 3 күн бұрын
Do you think Rohit kohli shastri David who share the same dressing room , don't understand cricket ? When they dropped him , it obviously means they don't rate him in Sena conditions. They'd rather select a thakur or Umesh and not Ashwin. That says a lot about him. He was a great bowler on rank turners but you don't get rank turners everywhere. That's how it is unfortunately. He couldn't prove himself in Sena countries.
@shreyansh1364
@shreyansh1364 3 күн бұрын
@@mayankdewli1010 He also played in the generation where we had Ishant Shami Umesh Bumrah..... how are you supposed to take wickets as a spinner when they are in the team alongside you. He is a finger spinner. And at last who tf are you? Your opinion doesn't matter. Period.
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