Tandberg Studio Monitor VS Heco the statement on Tandberg TR 2080

[@PeterMilanovski]

The Tandberg's sound 100 times better than the other speakers! I personally would have sold the other speakers because they sound like rubbish! Flimsy plastic sound!

[@krzysztofmazur9412]

I agree STUDIO is way better

[@Сергей-е4л8ж]

I agree Tandberg Monitor are good , but Isophon speakers are at least as good . By the way , listen to the Telefunken TL800 , they sound VERY good and most importantly RELIABLE !

[@Zeppstermeister]

I also totally agree Tandberg sounds absolutely superior! You can hear that they have great dynamics even trough that poor mic and YT!! There is a reason why they still are pretty expensive and desirable to this day!

[@MrProvinspoul]

These Tandbergs are some of the best and finest ever made, I do not think you have anything in the living room that can come close to Tandberg, I'm also pretty sure they can keep up with the most expensive ones made today. It is also quite clear that Tandberg plays much better in your video.

[@jasonnm5972]

I confirm, overall, The Tandberg's sound much much better!

[@aman-mn5kc]

Thanks for posting! These mids are half horns (i have them in an active system) and they like to be far away. Tandberg may have some problems also with slow/dim midbass. Get a carpet on the whole floor, i just did. Very good now!

[@pt7628]

Dear andrew did you connect your speakercable to the +2db binding post at the back of the hecos statement? That is very important my friend.. Otherwise you miss some treble .. You also can connect the mid speakers to -2db when they are near to the wall.. Please experiment with those settings.. Greetings🤘

[@pt7628]

And please play some audiophile music like anette askvik .. Liberty for example... or nils lofgren acoustc life cd Tandberg is great but difficult to compare it with other speakers... they are punchy and dynamic sometimes too dynamic ✌️... it looks always they want to win with more dynamic power... some people like it.. some people not.. 🤘

[@ac81017]

Don´t EVER selll those Tandbergs. Buy a pair of stands and get them around 50cm of the ground.

[@jeremycarroll451]

Ok.. A couple of things about these. They are not HI FI speakers. They are full-range studio monitors. They are not meant to make for a pleasurable listening experience. They are designed to accurately reflect what is being put into them, unlike hi-fi speakers, which are designed to flatter the music. In other words, unlike hi-fi speakers, they are precision measuring instruments. Also, they are designed to be soffit-mounted in the wall, not to be used floor standing. I am a mastering engineer and I use these as my reference monitors in my studio. I would never listen to commercially released music on them as all they will do is highlight every tonal error, harshness and tonal imbalance in the music. This is what they are designed to do. Comparing them with hi-fi speakers is like comparing a family hatchback with an off-road 4x4. They're not the same thing and you'll go very wrong if you try and confuse the two! As regards the price, in order to get a set of reference studio monitors of a similar specification, you would be looking at a price of £8,000-£10,000.

[@vintagestereo]

thank you. I discovered that later, after I made the review ....good to hear it from a specialist.

[@jeremycarroll451]

@@vintagestereo Of course, if all music was mastered properly, everything would sound fantastic on them. Unfortunately that's not the case. So you still have them?

[@otsmpotsm]

My opinion is this: studio sound is also like distilled water

[@krzysztofmazur9412]

@@jeremycarroll451 STUDIO is way better in sound

[@perothing]

I can confirm this.

[@keesvanwoerden2156]

Tandberg sounds better because their midrange is much better. And that is where the music lives. The Heco’ s suck in comparison

[@AudioElectronicsChicago]

The prices on these are skyrocketing

[@Behnss]

Hi Andrew.. what are the tunes u used for this demo? May I know? Thank u very much! Your videos are great.

[@vintagestereo]

all music is from the youtube audio library. The EU made new copyright laws last year so I lost copyright on video's. To avoid that for the future I now use youtubes copyright free audio library music what you can find on youtube page

[@SDS-1]

Tandberg👌

[@SopelKalisz]

Tandberg sounds much better than Heco no doubt 👍

[@andrewcrain5461]

Andrew I'm very surprised that you didn't use maybe like a marantz 2270 or 65B to push them speakers and test them ??

[@vintagestereo]

I don't have those receivers anymore, can't keep everything

[@andrewcrain5461]

@@vintagestereo well I'm sure you have one of those nice Sansui amplifiers or Receivers you couldn't have got rid of those?? DID YOU

[@arvidstorli2501]

It is important that the listener is on the same horizontal plane as the two tweers. Only when you have the same distance to the twin tweeters will high tones sound right. So you can tilt them backwards, or raise them until your ears enter the narrow treble zone. Below or above they sound dead. They also benefit of more powerful amplifiers due to their low sensitivity. 150-200W. I have a pair myself, but I rarely use them now.

[@otsmpotsm]

Nonsense...

[@arvidstorli2501]

@@otsmpotsm You have obviously never heard these speakers. I own a pair and know very well the strengths and weaknesses of them. One tip, learn about combfiltereffect. And you will understand what is happening around the two trebleunits. Set up correctly and they play beautifully :)

[@TheDistrict644]

I'd go with the Tandbergs. They sound great with the 2080, It should be no surprise.

[@stighenningjohansen]

Short comment, I had a TCD3034 tape deck for ten years, the 'sound Freezer' from Tandberg and it was the most insanely complicated piece of electronic equipment I have ever seen. I believe 10 IC's and 85 Transistors, a frequency resonse from 11Hx to 26.5Khz.. Shortly after, Tandberg was no more

[@seluj6921]

Beste vintage stereo wat vind je van bns luidsprekers. Ik gebruik op dit moment de bns symphony 120. Meningen?

[@vintagestereo]

ik heb niet veel ervarng met bns, heb wel 2 kleine bookenplank speakers van bns die ik snel zal testen

[@vintagestereo]

ik ga binnenkort de bns E5 opnieuw tegenover mijn heco's testen, de eerste keer wonnen de bns van de heco's in het midden maar kwam er later achter dat ik slechte kabels op de hecos had, binnenkort een nieuwe test met gelijkwaardige speakers

[@baracnicusordaniel4070]

Do anybody know a estimated price for speakers vintage Kenwood KL 77? I have a pair and i want to sell them! Thank you!

[@vintagestereo]

They are not really spectacular looking and so not much of a value. The kl 777 is something different

[@artax7438]

A few people are correct , they need to be off the floor and they are too close together which makes dynamics and Imaging suffer. And they are studio monitor s which have a flat sound but off the floor and spread out like the heco' s then you would have heard a big difference. Heco sounded lighter and smaller plus there midrange not as rich and natural as the tanbergs to me. Don't get me wrong the heco's are awesome speakers , but you must experiment more with the tanbergs but it's to late you sold them correct? Eight to twelve inches off the floor and spread out like the other speakers believe me would have made a huge difference believe me You would have kept them and the caps are fine just placement means a lot on some big box type speakers. I love your videos I'm a big fan of yours for years now.

[@vintagestereo]

believe me the hecos where sounding so much better but the microphones distance from the hecos was longer as from the tandbergs. The heco's came with 2 sort of spikes, normal spikes and small rubber tops. I use the small rubber tops because i move them often. I don't like spikes on speakers for the reason I move them often. The difference in sound would not be much when i would have placed the tandbergs in stands. My cantons also dont have spikes, just flat on the floor.

[@gijsbug]

Ik ben een gelukkige eigenaar van deze beauty's, en ze klinken het best op hun orginele stands hoe lelijk ze ook zijn, bij mij staan ze/stonden tegenover elkaar met 8 meter afstand in een ruimte van 10 bij 5 meter, harman kardon 6550 versterker.

[@TheAteolin]

@@vintagestereo tandberg they needed stands, the sound is closer to the source

[@hovdingen99]

I agree with you that this beautiful old monitors (I have a pair of my selves) needs to be recapped. Bur when you say that it's and easy job I think I need to correct you. Soldering is easy, but you have to carefully find capacitors that matches the specs and most of all they need to be of high quality. I ended up with capacitors to an amount of 400 dollar. It is not a cheep solution to recap old Tandberg Studio Monitors, but its worth it!

[@erikjensen5697]

Sorry but this is the most IDIOTIC review I hawe ever seen .. Tandberg Studio Monitor is from 1977. They are 45 years old, and you think they sound like new! The capacitors are finished long time ago and the speaker will off course sound bad without any life and dynamic. Its a miracle they working! How can you then make a review ? REPLACE THE CAPS - not easy and not cheap, because their are many capacitors to replace - its a huge and advanced cross over filter. Olso the midrange and tweeter switches need to be cleaned carefull and and connectors on each loudspeaker units must be cleaned - or better soldered. The speaker is not designed to stand directly on the floor - are you kidding! You will get heavy bass and midrange and tweeter sound will disappear. Only after you have fix this you can make a review about the sound And I can already tell you they sound like hi-fi speaker in the absolute high end class worth 10.000 euro! You "reference" speaker will sound like cheap toy..

[@stighenningjohansen]

The Tandbergs consistenly sounds better in your vid, so?

[@laurentiudinca9606]

Studio monitors are not made to sound pretty. They are made to separate the music, instruments, etc. That's why music studios use them over hifi speakers.

[@MichaelSalmons64]

i actually prefer the sound of the tandberg over the hecos, but maybe it's more to do with placement and the recording device. I just like the mids a lot, lot better.

[@johnsweda2999]

They're not meant to have hi Dynamics studio monitors, you don't get Dynamics with the size speaker like that, I thought they sounded better than your ones. If those mid-range drivers are ATC than they are worth for the driver's alone €600 if they're volt not so much.

[@artax7438]

John sweda Your correct I like them better to if they were off the floor and spread out like the others it would have been a fair comparison they have a awesome midrange and that neutral studio sound and the caps are most likely fine but he will never know he sold them

[@johnsweda2999]

@@artax7438 yes I wouldn't change the caps they're fine probably paper in oil and not Panasonic. That's right they need the right positioning speak like that is fickle, probably best in the wall and I don't know what he had the tone control set to either on the speakers. His reference speakers had awful voicing issues. Anybody in the UK got a pair I'm interested

[@otsmpotsm]

I chose between these speakers and the Beovox M100. I decided to buy the M100. Will you scold me? )))

[@gino3286]

Hi both are very excellent speakers I just don't like the two tweeters on the Tandy Why? They should be cut quite high like 3.5kHz Just one should be more than enough I would take one out

[@EastAngliaUK]

Heco defo sounds clearer on my mission mx1 speakers.

[@krzysztofmazur9412]

STUDIO is way better

[@jasonnm5972]

Hecos also sound boring and plain to me, no thrill in them as well.

[@gzubeck3]

Tanbergs need to be off the floor a bit. I think the Tandbergs might be a lot better if off the floor 10-12 inches with stands. Plus fixing the crossover. Keep the speakers and fix them.

[@artax7438]

George Zubeck You are totally correct and they need to be spread out like the Heco and Canton speakers he has in his setup. I think the caps are fine just setup wrong.

[@lbudt29]

Tandberg system is well defined and good bass. HECO speakers are very nice, and you will a good amp like Emotiv. Check them out. Very nice sir. Yes, if you up grade the crossover to newer , and better parts you will hear a huge difference.

[@GYccUsefultips]

My friend those tandberg speakers are studio monitors..The comparison is senseless...To start with the tandberg speakers produce a deeper bass and all you need to do is turn up the treble to compensate the bass..Period

[@MARQUES-re6gn]

Thanks for your effort. Great review. 💯

[@nicepush2574]

I have a set of these studio monitors and they are still THE BEST SOUND QUALITY!!! BUT you have to ADD a KLPISCH 12" Subwoofer for taking care of the low freqs.!!! That's all. GOOD SPEAKERS!!!!!!!!!

[@perothing]

These Tandbergs are not designed for Hi-Fi enjoyment. These are reference speakers and made for analysis, broadcast control-rooms and recording-studio's. There's no need to change anything since they do what they are supposed to do; sounding as accurate, neutral and flat as possible. In this big size you wont find a contemporary equivalent. As a musician I own a pair myself. Superb lows and high frequencies, and overall low distortion. At first I was disappointed with a lot of CD's until I found out these were badly mastered. They do sound terrible if the recording is meh! These are telling you the truth; garbage in, garbage out! I consider to sell them cause I downsized my recording setup.

[@Oldgamingfart]

Older amps like that were always a little bass-heavy to make up for the inefficiencies in the speakers. Still, these kind of things have their place for those who like the warmer 'vintage' sound with vinyl, etc. I agree, I would not pay so much, either! It is too much of a novelty when you can have so much better modern equipment.

[@vintagestereo]

maybe these speakers are meant to use as studio speakers.....as studio speakers they could be of higher value. Not sure why people pay so much for them, as living room speakers I advice against them

[@Oldgamingfart]

It may just be branding as 'Studio Monitor' to sound sophisticated and stylish for the time, e.g. 'top-of-the-range' / 'high-end'..although I'm sure they were not exactly a cheap thing (as reflected in the build quality). Today, they are simply too old and will need a lot of work in the hands of an enthusiast. You made the right decision to sell.

[@artax7438]

Oldgamingfart No sorry but they're setup wrong is all they have to be off the floor and spread out for better imaging and dynamics these are a special speaker and are true to the studio monitor sound flat and neutral , if they were setup correct you would have heard a big difference believe me , setup is crucial with monitor speakers and speakers in general.

[@artax7438]

vintage stereo wish you would have experimented with them more like spreading them out and off the floor because they are monitors and are critical about placement , that would have changed the whole sound of the speaker I know for a fact you would have liked them a whole lot better. That midrange alone would have opened up and bass would have been more transparent and the spreading out would have opened up imaging and dynamics for sure. Plus they have turnovers to tailor the sound to your room. Aw man your going to miss out on the sweet sound spot they have that's why there so sought after but you live and learn , love your channel

[@Oldgamingfart]

Sure, when they were new..but now it's over forty years later and they probably have out of spec tolerances with potential (multiple) component failure. No history of how they've been used or even looked after. I'd pass them along..much nicer modern things around for the money.

[@teokon5165]

Hecos sound more musical but Tandbergs have more attack and body. If you open up the sound a little in midrange and treble the Tandbergs will be winners

[@dxhighendamplifiers]

Good

[@stighenningjohansen]

Excuse me, but the Tandberg studio monitors wipe the floor with your Hecos.

[@сергейсерый-к8и]

купил случайно эту акустику у старика , очень оригинальный звук , не похожа на многое что слышал , изящно звучит , но капризна к источнику !! включил с современным транзисторным оконечником и ламповым предом , случайная комбинация но удачная , на мой вкус

[@Gawron339]

You are making, a childish mistake.Your speakers should be put on spikes for better bass response.And on a time of recording, throw some blanket on this floor 😂.That naked floor made from teracotta kills me :). Waiting for your video of Statements with Accuphase or Tube amp.

[@artax7438]

Gawron339 Yes I agree they need to be off the floor and spread out like the others in his setup and they are monitors so they'll be natural and neutral, I heard more in them even though there setup wrong.

[@Gawron339]

@@artax7438 I was concern to floorstanders.In case of monitors its more obvious, but Andrew dont have stands for it.But Im sure he have the spikes to his Heco. And I can understand, he is moving many different speakers for demos, and with spikes its more of a work.But speakers Andrew decided that staying for longer, shoul have spikes installed.

[@michabizon4092]

Every German loudspeaker sounds clean but lacks medium tones....

[@ВинтажнаяАудиотехника-в6ц]

класс, колонки интересные

[@FullFledged2010]

Studio monitors are not hifi speakers. They actually need to sound as flat and dry as possible for mixing. Thats also why they cost more than hifi speakers. As weird as it sounds studio monitors are not for listening to music. I mean you could but thats not what they're made for. Btw hoeveel wil je er voor hebben? Ik heb wel interesse 😏

[@Mystuff1963]

Hey.Please lift them from the floor on stands,and give them new veneer....they are worth it.

[@FullFledged2010]

@@Mystuff1963 yup they need to be at ear height. Although a speaker this size has a huge sweatspot

[@krzysztofmazur9412]

STUDIO MONITOR from JBL or Tandenberg is not flat. Its full sound with lots of detsils

[@FullFledged2010]

@@krzysztofmazur9412 Not sure what your criteria are for flat sounding speakers are but the jbl 508p's are really flat. And flatness has nothing to do with a full and detailed sound. Flat just means it has more or less the same response across all frequencies. Hifi speakers tend to have some frequencies boosted or cutt.

[@Tobbes-music]

Tandberg sounds way better. more realistic midrange tone the guitar sounds exactly like if you are sitting in front of your guitar amp playing it.

[@vintagestereo]

@@Tobbes-music realistic doesn’t mean better sounding

[@vintagestereo]

@@Tobbes-music a tube amplifier is far from realistic but they are popular

[@vintagestereo]

@@Tobbes-music and what is exactly realistic? A electric guitar sounds so much different as a acoustic guitar… did people who preferred the acoustic sound stand against the sound of electric guitars once they came on the market? Livingroom speakers add a bit if depth, dynamic and definitely a little mudder as studio monitors…. With they only reason to let the music sounds better.

[@vintagestereo]

@@Tobbes-music modern cars are better isolated from outside and engine sounds as older cars. Yes the older car gives a more natural driving experience when you hear your tires but only a few would choose a car like that. You can get the natural studio sound out of studio headphones but nobody want those headphones

[@konstantinzadornov5042]

обе пары ас превосходно играют но Tanberg лучше более артикулированный и проработанный бас

[@tucoremirez4859]

Have you been smoking weed ???? 😂😂😂😂

[@РубаильСафаров-ю8э]

Hello! You used to play good music, but now the music is not good, you don’t even want to watch, please change the music. I always watch your videos, I like them!

[@vintagestereo]

since last year there are new rules according to copyright. I lost copyright on many video's due to the new laws. Even 10 seconds of music can cost me my copyright now. Thats the reason why I use different music.

[@oldscoolhifichannelgmh3574]

die tandbergs sind aber klötze richtig gute speaker

[@vintagestereo]

@@oldscoolhifichannelgmh3574 i have a pair for sale

[@oldscoolhifichannelgmh3574]

@@vintagestereo okay this listing interessing

[@eriklarsson4121]

It's expensive because it's from norway, where they have very little industry and production. You always end up with an overprice for decent quality.

[@Zeppstermeister]

Do you think Electrocompaniet, Hegel, Dynamic Precision, Adyton etc is just decent also? Norway has a lot of both industry and production, and unlike i.e Sweden Norway is a very rich country!

[@krzysztofmazur9412]

STUDIO is way better

[@MMSound-zl4eo]

диз лайк за твою болтавню

[@Gawron339]

LMAO In my country price 22 300zł divide it by 4,2 to get euro money - its 5000 Euro 😂 sprzedajemy.pl/tandberg-studio-monitor-wroclaw-2-0010c9-nr57394126 Found also for 9600zl it is 2286 ojro. But in the midrange and highs, what I could heard trhu your recording, Tandberg has stronger, more sharpe on your face midrange, and less active highs. If recaping crossover wil give them some deeeper sound, that I understand why they cost 1500 Euro.