Tangerine Dream- Rubycon Part 1 (REACTION & REVIEW)

[@AndyKing1963]

I've followed Tangerine Dream for 42 years, seen them 41 times, and listened to hundreds of albums, and they are still the best - never matched

[@a.k.1740]

Without a doubt ! It's a musical journey, a sonic exploration.

[@diehandgottes6721]

I think I have them all some even still as vinyl then as CD and some as MP3 especially some rare ones on MP3 I love this music since the end of the 70th until today.

[@freddymo3339]

Myself. Dozens of mood scapes, perfect for heists and suspense filled video tracks.

[@brucebrown73]

I have now listened to a multitude of reaction channels. JP my friend, no one is as thoughtful, thorough, and committed to excellence as you. I’ve always been a detailist, and that’s why I enjoy listening to your reactions. Besides that, you’re just a nice guy.

[@JustJP]

Thats kind of you Bruce, I really appreciate it

[@mvjonsson]

I often imagine Tangerine Dream's ambient music as an inner journey through sonic landscapes, ever shifting between the light and the dark.

[@peteharper2687]

Tangerine Dream are masters of atmosphere.

[@thomashoffmann1063]

As a teenager in the eighties, most of my friends listened to Brit-pop, some to hard rock. I listened to Jethro Tull, King Crimson and especially to Tangerine Dream. This album was my first, since then TD hasn't let me go. I'm captivated by these soundscapes, how they flow into each other, become more intense and die down again, while a new idea is already making its way to the fore. TD were groundbreaking, and surely for me as a teenager in the eighties. Here was something so different from anything else on the radio.

[@damirhlobik6488]

I brought this CD to work, a younger colleague asked me what it was. I said it was one of TD's three best albums, after which he asked me to listen to it in the office. I laughed at him and said "Just go ahead, enjoy it." After an hour he returned it and said "Now I know why everyone says that you are very strange". I laughed again and answered him "And you are all very strange to me".

[@e997e]

I just listened to this album recently because I knew you'd be doing it on a long-song Saturday, and I absolutely loved it! I love albums where it feels like you can just live in them for a bit -- it's very atmospheric and still sounds futuristic after all these years. Thank you for the reaction👍

[@JustJP]

Glady you enjoyed Emily! Yes, albums to "live in" is a great descriptor

[@your_local_dummy4137]

Rubycon, a great TD album. It is timeless and still sounds like the far future now as it did back in the 70's. Such a amazing sonic journey, such atmosphere. It is a great experience, So glad you have taken the time and effort to reaction to this music that is so far away from established norms. Not very many people will do that.

[@paulcollins5586]

Ambient berlin school Classic.

[@a.k.1740]

There is a natural flow in this music. It's ambient in nature but also very progressive in the way the piece (and its second part) is constructed and sonically not that far removed from psychedelic vibes. Rubycon is a complete album because it relies as much on mysterious and dreamlike atmospheres as on the most bewitching sequences, with an underlying melodic aspect while not seeking to play on that alone, but rather on a broader musical exploration as much as possible ! For me, A masterpiece.

[@michaelmcbreen4025]

In my humble opinion the greatest track the synthesizer kings of the 70s was "WHITE EAGLE" an absolute masterpiece from Tangerine Dream.👍

[@AndyKing1963]

fantastic track from their 1982 album of the same name. From memory it was mostly composed by Johannes Schmoelling

[@frankpentangeli7945]

I love White Eagle ... it's beautiful! But I think Stratosfear blows all their other songs away. In my view it's Tangerine Dream's "Stairway to Heaven".

[@FSRubyc]

@@frankpentangeli7945 I love most of TD's music, and Strarosfear is one of my favourites, but the best 70ies album is RIcochet, IMHO.

[@johnwilson8312]

If you think the ending of part one of Rubycon is scary, wait till you hear part two!

[@jamesleatherbarrow635]

The opening 5 minutes of part 2 make it onto my Halloween playlist every year!

[@mournblade1066]

The opening of part two is genuinely scary music. It's the soundtrack to a nightmare.

[@damirhlobik6488]

It's nothing compared to "Sorcerer-Main title"

[@frankhoulihanfh4972]

Part 2 also has a sad, beautiful, lonely conclusion that breaks my heart every time I listen. Which has been lots. Often. Rubycon is Desert Island Material for me.

[@alanlowndes8668]

I first saw tangerine dream in November 1974 at the free trade Hall manchester. Ticket was £1. 10p. They used quadraphonic sound and I saw them every time they were in the UK. From then on. Franke froese baumann was the greatest era in my opinion. I've seen lots of changes in members of the band. And thanks to thorsten, he is keeping the name going to this day and onwards.

[@matthieujoly]

Tangerine Dream remains my "forever" music. I stiil enjoys all theses albums, year after years. Great review.

[@Totenkopfzwerg]

Whether it's suggested by the album cover or not, I don't know, but I always see movement of water in all forms and shapes "with my mind's eye" when I hear this album. It is absolutely beautiful and spell-binding. Deep, essential music :) Glad to hear your experience about it! All hail TD!

[@AndyKing1963]

Monika Froese's favourite album cover - a single drop of water

[@colin2utube]

The part from 9m:20s, that really kicks in at 10m:30s has haunted me for decades. Whenever there's any contemplation of my Existence, or the nature of Reality ... this is the backing track. There's something profound, sublime and timeless about it, as though they found a key to unlock some transcendental secret.

[@AndyKing1963]

Karl Dallas (RIP) interviewing Chris Franke from TD in 1975: Rubycon Part I The beginning is Baumann on Fender Rhodes piano, “playing very lonely notes”, with bell-like Moog tones from Franke, joined by an oboe sound from Froese’s Mellotron. All three lines come closer and closer together, but there are quiet spaces between the notes. “It’s the first time we have put breaks between the notes, but it’s very important, so you can get your brain clear for what’s coming.” A very high melody line on Franke’s Moog comes over the long, slow notes, is joined by tapes of mixed voices on the Mellotron with glissandi from Baumann. The Moog melody returns and Froese changes to strings tapes for a brief section of trumpet-like tune and strings. “Peter has some very nice voltage-controlled bits with the synthi. Sometimes he comes very near with his glissandi, through the well-tempered melody line. I like it very much if there are two scales of notes together -- a well-tempered scale and a not-tempered scale producing, like birds, quarter notes, like Schoenberg. “This part gives me the impression of a very big river, at the end of the river coming into a big sea, the ocean. It’s very liquid.” Wind noise is followed by a cymbal-like tone created by a cluster of 20 or 30 notes very close together and a very low bass, with feelings of fuzz in it. “It’s a little meditation tone.” After a rhythm sequence, Froese plays the main theme on the strings followed by a remarkable duet between Baumann’s Fender Rhodes and Froese’s oboe-tapes, in which they swap phrases and half phrases. The rhythm continues, very ostinato, “a repetitive rhythm like the Negroes make it, very often”, Baumann switches to organ and the duet continues. The rhythm doubles and Franke adds an overdubbed piano tape loop: a backwards tape is joined to a forwards tape so that the sound comes to its attack and then dies away. The rhythm becomes very complex, with Moog tones and snare-drum sounds, plus overdubbed piano, “prepared” with pieces of wood stuck between the strings to give a more percussive effect. Over this Froese plays chords and Baumann plays a very high melody line on organ. A change in the rhythm is overlaid by clashing sounds from Baumann’s voltage-controlled oscillator, played over a very fast-running Leslie speaker and very long echo delay. Froese plays a reprise of the original oboe melody while the decay of the snare drum sound becomes longer and longer so that the beat disappears. Later Baumann plays grand piano over a Leslie. “In this piece I think all the melodies, rhythms and all the sounds are much, much more complex and much better than on Phaedra. I think it is a step forward, this record.” The piece ends with a long sitar-like sound created by scraping the strings of a grand piano with a piece of metal, recording it, cutting off the attack at the beginning of the note, and playing it back on multi-track at different speeds, giving several different pitches. The rhythm becomes simpler and simpler, moving from three to two to one single tone, and the piano loops are faded across to each other, making chords, slowly shifting.

[@br.martindallyosb1147]

This was fascinating. Thanks for sharing this.🙂

[@AndyKing1963]

@@br.martindallyosb1147 no problem

[@AndyKing1963]

The piano chord is 'backward reverb' - you record a piano chord, reverse the tape and then play it through reverb. The tape is then reversed again and the reverb fades in before the chord. That tape is then glued to a section the right way round - actually TD probably just used a reversed piano chord and then edited it into normal piano chord. It's a great studio effect

[@KennethBatchelor]

Great info! And thanks for the link!

[@AndyKing1963]

@@KennethBatchelor no problem, all the best

[@Jack-D-Ripper]

I bought this album as soon as it came out in 1975, because I was so taken by Phaedra. This track, Rubycon, part one, it's probably my all-time favourite Tangerine Dream piece of music. It has been played in the background as I used to draw paint fantasy art, and suddenly stimulated and inspired many of my works. Rubycon, part two is also pretty amazing, especially the weird voice, things and Air Raid Siren like keyboards. I have mini tangerine dream albums, but not as many as I have, Steve Roach albums, which number in the 70s . Tangerine dream sent me on my ambient journey, and was quickly followed by Klaus Schulze (RIP), Robert Rich, and Steve Roach.

[@jameswarner5809]

This is an album to listen to laying on your bed in the dark (which I have done). It takes you places (no drugs necessary). I think the piano sound is created by reversing the tape so it plays the note backwards, getting louder then cutting off.

[@musicalBurr]

Many a time in high school in the late 70s, I’d roll home at 2am from partying with my friends, and given what was ingested, there was no way I was going to be falling asleep. Down to the basement I’d go, put this album on with headphones (or Phaedra, or Stratosphere etc.). I’d turn on an old rabbit-ears black and white TV, tuned to a channel that didn’t broadcast which gives you snow on the screen. I’d dial the contrast and brightness to get a nice effect. Then sit back and listen and watch as the most amazing animation unfolded before me. I never got tired of that trick and was amazed at how the music plus my brain in the state it was in could just generate those images - like dreaming awake. Later on in life I learned that part of the signal that was being picked up by the TV, and generating that snow, is signal from the cosmic microwave background radiation, some of the first signals we can see after the big bang. Somehow makes it more special a memory.

[@brianmolloy4926]

Great analysis Justin. TD were pioneering new ways to create sounds electronically, pushing boundaries and finding their style of layers of sounds and sequences that would be their trademark for decades - even to the current line up of the Band. I can understand why not everyone would 'get ' this type of music but it was groundbreaking and even JM Jarre went to see them live in France and was wowed by their music. I hope you will keep dropping in on their Catalogue. I know some here only like their 70' s output but I think they shone in the early 80's when they pioneered Digital composition. Thanks again. Love your channel.

[@a.k.1740]

I consider Rubycon and Stratosfear as their 70s highs, then Exit and Hyperborea as their 80s highs. In the meantime (and even until the departure of Chris Franke), there are also plenty of good things to listen to from TD.

[@AndyKing1963]

@@a.k.1740 I think the new lineup is superb and their last two studio albums are the best I've heard from TD in decades

[@a.k.1740]

@@AndyKing1963 I stopped in 1988 with Optical Race (which I didn't like), however I heard some TD tracks from the 90s and beyond but I didn't like it either. The only things I can appreciate are some of The Sessions series from 2017-2018 released after the death of Edgar Froese, which goes back to something more organic like TD did in the 70s.

[@AndyKing1963]

@@a.k.1740 the session that they played at Coventry Cathedral back in March this year, was IMHO one of the best pieces of music I have ever heard in my life (Steve Rothery also guested on guitar). They are going to release all 16 sessions from their UK tour in a session box set - news soon

[@JustJP]

Appreciated Brian!

[@sphericalharmony1603]

The only TD album I know is Phaedra. On first listen, this sounds similar to Phaedra but with more depth and more sounds, so definitely a progression in their music. A good point about this sounding more organic than electronic.

[@AndyKing1963]

Checkout Ricochet, Stratosfear, Force Majeure and Tangram

[@neuroisis85]

​​@@AndyKing1963and Cyclone, White Eagle, Poland and Exit

[@phillipjones1817]

You’ve got to think when this was recorded, glam rock was the in thing especially in the uk, that’s why this is mind blowing, well ahead of there time. Masterpiece

[@frugalseverin2282]

That keyboard build and cut-off is the same trick Yes used at the beginning of 'Roundabout'. It was achieved by hitting a piano chord, recording it and then playing it backwards.

[@AndyKing1963]

and One of These Days by Pink Floyd

[@maruad7577]

Takes me back. I never really heard these guys until the 1980s but it was still mind blowing at the time.

[@Jon-cf6qb]

It's brilliant - at some stage do 'Ricochet' though, 'live' ish album from around the time and is my favourite

[@frankhoulihanfh4972]

My single favorite piece of electronica. Even possibly my single favorite piece of music.❤ Also possibly the most inventive use of sequencers. Nobody who hears this forgets it.

[@diehandgottes6721]

Wau I am amazed at the reaction video of the German electronic band Tangerine Dream I have a lot of vinyl and CD albums so many I don't know exactly how many. Founded in 1967 and they still exist today despite the death of band founder Edgar Froese in 2015.

[@BaldJean]

Jeanine and I have very different ways of experiencing music. I see inner movies when I close my eyes and listen. When it is music with lyrics the lyrics usually influence what I see with my inner eye a lot; for example when I listen to "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers" I see the lighthouse and somehow get into it, I see the two ships colliding and sinking and so on. Jeanine is a synaesthesist. This means she tastes, smells and sees music when she listens to it. As to what she sees it is just colors, (very different ones depending on the music; she says she even sees colors she can't see with her eyes), but what she smells and tastes is often more specific. She says she has a salty taste at the beginning of "Rubycon" which develops into things like smoked salmon and, towards the end, into a really nasty taste of fried potatoes with bacon and way too much salt in them. For part one of "Rubycon" my inner movie is this: It is a sunny day, and I am an at ocean beach. Suddenly it gets overcast, the temperature drops a few degrees, and I see two riders appearing from the right galloping along the beach (that's when the rhythm comes in), one chasing the other. The first rider is a young man on a white horse. He is being chased by the Grim Reaper on a skeletal horse who occasionally swings his scythe at the man but always misses (I see this every time when these swelling chords you compared to the beginning of "Roundabout" come in). They disappear out of sight to the left. At the end the Grim Reaper returns from the left riding slowly with the body of the young man in front of him on his skeletal horse. I am a storyteller and have a very vivid imagination. Jeanine and I envy each other for the way we experience music; I would really love to taste or smell music like her too, and she would love to have my imagination.

[@dfo132]

This is so cool! I regularly listen to several different reaction channels (mostly 60s & 70s pop) but this is the first time I've seen someone tackle some old school electronica. (Been a TD fan since 1988.) Really enjoyed your analysis. Going to have to check out the rest of your videos.

[@JustJP]

Thats very nice of you dfo, thank you for your comment

[@brianodell2157]

So grateful for your diverse music selections and your enthusiasm for music. ✌

[@larrypoulton6401]

Tangerine Dream are the soundtrack to my youth (amongst others). These early Virgin years are may favourite and if you haven't yet, please listen to Stratosfear. I appreciated your comments acknowledged the time at which this recording came out. Its important to put it in context and indeed, that makes it all the more amazing. TD were great exponents of and ambassadors for the forthcoming synth revolution.

[@moodiu2b690]

This song for me sounds like a time machine built as a submarine which gets lost on an oceanic travel trying to find a specific point of time in human's ancient history. Instead it finally reaches a new unknown shore and the story goes on for part 2 ...!

[@palantir135]

I’m a big fan of Tangerine Dream for over 45 years now. Rubicon is a good album, the first one that wasn’t experimental music, but the albums after this are much better. My personal favorites are: White eagle, studio album Pergamon, live album Have you ever seen a picture of all the equipment they’re using? kzbin.info/www/bejne/nV6UopuQa6x_j6c

[@funkyfurballs1078]

I agree... they became more dynamic, especially in the New Age era.

[@faceymedia65]

As a life long fan of Tangerine Dream I think their finest album is Tangram from 1980. Its when they reached a peak in creativity.

[@davidford3744]

Rubycon was the album that bridged the gap between the more experimental albums of the past and a slightly more user friendly sound track style.. I think The band have a Copyright on the name, so it's not been used on commercial products. However, there was a British Vape juice that was originally called Tangerine Dream. However, it quickly changed to Tangerine Cream, so there may have been a bit of official finger wagging, and the "You can't use this name as its Taken. One last thing about the Rubycon album. This album as you know was released in 1975, but it's so ahead of its time it's frightening, and there was no one else making this kind of music except for klaus Shulze and Some Ashra Temple, which both had tie in with TDin the past. Its an astonishing album in my opinion

[@musicdroog7666]

Let's get things nice and sparkling clear. The river in Italy that Caesar crossed is spelt Rubicon. Rubycon, according to Google, is a Japanese electronics company founded in the 50's. Could be that TD was doing some homage to the company or it was just a cool title for an album. Who really knows?

[@AlvaroVega75]

i used to listen to this , phaedra & Ricochet while reading H.P. Lovecraft...beautiful days of great discoveries,...

[@hrblsh]

So awesome! I love Tangerine Dream. They keep getting better. I like their 80s stuff the best, but it’s all good!

[@stephaniethurmer5370]

Justin thank you so much. Please find a dvd called Canyon Dreams by Tangerine Dream. They spent a month or so taking video and writing music to go with it from their time in the Grand Canyon. Enjoy and thanks again. Sorry for being absent for a while

[@JustJP]

Hope you're well Steph!

[@br.martindallyosb1147]

It is always interesting to read the reviews of older albums when they were first released, for one is regularly astonished at often the critics just didn't get it. Of course, there is a sense that this is partly unavoidable with any new release, in that it takes time to truly appreciate any new development in music (or any art form). As a kid, whenever I heard this kind of music, I always imagined myself alone on a spaceship hurtling through the outer reaches of space, getting lost in the overwhelming mystery of existence. I really like nachenty's comment (see below) about the inner journey aspect as well. The amount of work it took to come up with this kind of music is mind boggling. I swear, throw in a mellotron and sequencers and I'm yours. This music is wondrous.

[@KennethBatchelor]

So nice to see someone reacting to TD! Rubycon was my first TD album. I purchased it as a blind buy on vinyl for $6 at a Mom and Pop record store in my late teens back around 1979/1980. I just loved the look of the album cover. I had never heard anything like it before and immediately became a lifelong fan. I bought everything they ever released up until the early 1990s when they seemed to lose their inventiveness, but I still listen to their pre-90s albums frequently, and this one is a sentimental favorite. Love the seagulls!

[@AndyKing1963]

listen to their new live improvised sessions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJaYpI15n7egi8k

[@lemming9984]

You are blind, but you liked the look of the cover....?

[@KennethBatchelor]

@@lemming9984 Really? 🤨Not sure if you're trolling or don't know how to read, but I said I bought the album as a "blind buy." A common phrase that refers to buying an album from an artist you've never heard before or buying a movie you've never seen before, not knowing whether you'll like it or not.

[@lemming9984]

@@KennethBatchelor No, not trolling!! Never heard that phrase before - but then I am foreign!

[@AndyKing1963]

@@KennethBatchelor I bought Tangram without hearing a second of TD before - I've never looked back

[@nickj5451]

Heyyyyy, I got a mention xD Two years later, I knew you'd get around to this eventually. Some of the best ambient there is.

[@JustJP]

😁

[@Shango]

When I was playing world of warcraft, I had an addon that played my own playlist of music for the different zones. This one I used for Black Rock Mountain / Black Rock Spire.

[@JustJP]

I've never played WOW, but thats a sweet idea Shango

[@Shango]

@@JustJP kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZqvg5x5fqlleKc

[@robertbell7199]

I know nothing of Tangerine Dream except the did the music for Gregory's Girl, and I liked that... I actually thought they were Scottish given it was a small independent scottish movie that went big (in the 80's)!!! Feels J M Jarre type of vibe... trippy techno!

[@kcydm9725]

Amazing! Their greatest track IMO

[@bosmeck]

very sneaky is Tangerine Dream... very. When listening to them it's like listening to a symphony... listen to them enough, you're hooked big time. Happy you ventured here JP... respect. Highly recommend "Ricochet" for your next adventure with TD... it's a shocker.

[@neilloughran4437]

First TD I bought was Cyclone in 1985 (still in my top 3 by them along with Encore and Force Majeure)... I got the Dream Sequence compilation the same year and was amazed how diverse the music was... there was a short sequence from Rubycon on that compilation I recall. I stayed with them up until the early 90s... I think the last CD I got was Rockoon which wasn't my cup of tea... I actually liked elements of their later 80s/90s work (e.g. Lily on the Beach, Tyger, Underwater Sunlight) a lot but agree the best stuff was earlier... very interesting band who had a lot of changes. Seems like the modern incarnation is actually playing the best elements of all the eras...

[@AndyKing1963]

and improvising concert closing tracks

[@neilloughran4437]

yep I saw that on an interview some months back...

[@AndyKing1963]

@@neilloughran4437 look out for the 16 session box set coming soon/ish

[@ludovicligot8642]

@@AndyKing1963 Very interesting information, Andy ! 😉

[@AndyKing1963]

@@ludovicligot8642 should be an 8 CD set

[@onemerlin]

The Tangerine Dream! A mixologist friend of mine created that drink, back in the mid-90s, and submitted it to the tequila company that was the base as part of an internal contest. I seem to recall it was a margarita variant, using Casta tequila (silver anjeho, if I remember correctly which I probably don't), Var der Humm tangerine liquor, lime juice, and... some sweetener (simple syrup? if I was doing it today, I'd use agave). It was amazing, and I still have two of the hand-blown martini glasses we got with each drink. The bartender made those for a year or so, before Van der Humm (which was South African) stopped being imported. Great memories. :)

[@JustJP]

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[@robertgyurjan4607]

Justin! Rubycon part 2 is even better!!

[@goldream2]

Quel musique ! Tangerine Dream était un super groupe , quel époque, rubycon super composition musicale , MUSIQUE IMTEMPORELLE

[@HippoYnYGlaw]

Justin, please share your Fave Top 25 artists you've discovered thru yer channel. It will help us .

[@JustJP]

I'll list a few off the top of my head: Genesis Yes Mike Oldfield Kate Bush Talk Talk Steely Dan VdGG Gentle Giant Bowie Theres obviously more, but this is what comes to me now

[@HippoYnYGlaw]

@@JustJP plenty left from their discographies for you to share -or even listen in your own time and then review in a ‘live’ video - possibly via a chart rundown with u playing your fave segments!? No. That would be me doin it. You, as one commentator said here, are more thorough. With tendencies of Being Systematically Spontaneous. (Which sounds like a prog album from 2021). Yes now is the time: I’m gonna list ten songs by ten artists which i guarantee will transform your breakfast outlook to Life itself because you’ll love the rest of their art too. The Crop so to speak. Doh ! Random i know but let’s hear it for the C R E A M of minimalist bass line / keyboard driven classic songs by classic artists!: 1O. Budgie - Black Velvet Stallion 9. Rush - losing it 8. The Passions - small stones 7. Judie Tzuke - stay with me til dawn 6. Doll by Doll - a bright green field 5. The Lilac Time - a taste for honey 4. Fatima Mansions - viva dead ponies 3. the Triffids - lonely stretch 2. Randy Newman - i miss you 1. Budgie - who do you want for your love? Budgie get 2 songs coz they deserve it oh hold on , mustn’t forget the essential 0. Super Furry Animals - the very best of Neil Diamond See u in 2040 maybe. So long and thanks for the fish. Frank Marino - Strange Dreams has just invaded this space thinkin it was No. 1. Alternatively it Was. Don’t kill the whale jp. Dig it. X

[@ianwilkinson4602]

Unforgetable brilliance.

[@JustJP]

For sure!

[@legomegacy]

been listening to tangerine dream sine the 80's you had the same reactions i had at the same parts. loved watching this with you

[@JustJP]

Thanks so much lego! They're a great group!

[@robertgyurjan4607]

Recommendation: the whole Tangram album

[@ZalMoxis]

Tangerine Dream's albums up into the early 80's are all pretty strong....

[@lemming9984]

The last two I bought were Tangram and Force Majeure (clear vinyl!), saw them a couple of times in this period too, magical.

[@manhattenman6075]

Stratosphere is personally one of their best albums the title track and invisible limits are amazing great stuff

[@AndyKing1963]

with a huge influence from Peter Baumann and his newly arrived modular synth

[@cosmin98684]

Invisible limits was the first track I heard from TD in 1984 and I was hooked... I was 14.... I own 97 albums and I know I'm missing a few so I know a thing or two about TD 😁

[@martinduner1844]

This!!! One for the ages!

[@joeyblowey123456]

WOW , I am impressed. Another reaction video from one of my favorite bands. Keep it going. Do Ricochet next!

[@JustJP]

Ty Geno!

[@frankpentangeli7945]

Just wait till you get to Stratosfear. That album is etched into my soul.

[@AndyKing1963]

brilliant album

[@guymadgesam24]

I recommend you listen to Inventions for electric Guitar by Manuel Göttsching you already listened to sunrain, has the same vibe as rubycon

[@ramoncardinali]

Great to see/hear TD on this channel. Looking forward to TD peaks album imo: Ricochet!

[@alejandrobojorquez6181]

Tangram by Tangerine Dream super album

[@damonramirez]

Check out TD's live albums at some point. And I'm just going to keep bugging you on this Justin, Todd Rundgren's "A Treatise On Cosmic Fire" In my opinion, one of the best early electronic music pieces ever!!! But it would be a real long song Saturday for sure!! 🤘🔥🤘

[@AndyKing1963]

100% but sadly almost none of them are completely live

[@andreasberten764]

... JP, have you tried Macula Transfer by Edgar Froese? If not, highly recommended! :-) ...

[@jamesdignanmusic2765]

Ooo! A shout out (and you pronounced it right!) - thanks! IMO this, "Phaedra", and "Stratosfear" are the three best TD albums, along with their track "No Man's Land" (from "Hyperborea") and Edgar Froese's solo album "Ages". Rubycon, to me has a very oceanic feel - I always love what I call the "underwater piano" sounds. The synth-oboe sound in the sequencer segment always reminds me of Ravel's "Bolero".

[@josdurkstraful]

That piano sound is a chord played backwards.

[@a.k.1740]

It also sounds like that to me and that's how Tangerine Dream must have done it in the studio.

[@jerkedevries]

Oh you make me curious to the track!

[@franckb8279]

Try Ricochet which is my favourite one from TD

[@wfamdaxj]

Well done JP, you took me back to 1975 when my brother played me this and I loved Tangerine Dream from then on. Froese, Franke and Bauman were the best composers. They did plenty of film scores too, probably the most atmospheric is Scorcerer. Check it out. Love your channel. 🖖🎼🎶🎵

[@JustJP]

Ty wfamdaxj!

[@AndyKing1963]

Sorcerer, Thief, The Keep, Firstarter, Legend, Near Dark and Risky Business are all brilliant

[@wfamdaxj]

@@AndyKing1963 so true.... Actually, some of the pieces on Ledgend can reduce me to tears.

[@wfamdaxj]

I'm blessed I suppose.... I got to see them I think 5 times, I even took my mum to the Logos gig at the Dominion theatre, London.🎼🎶🎵😆

[@AndyKing1963]

@@wfamdaxj I was there as well - afternoon or evening concert?

[@harmlessfuzz3179]

Please, pretty please 🙏 do TD’s Ricochet at some point. That album is amazing.

[@hubertvancalenbergh9022]

I went to see them in June (current line-up: Thorsten Quaeschning, Paul Frick and Hoshiko Yamane) and heartily recommend their most recent offering Raum. Had a chat with Thorsten and Hoshiko after the show. Very friendly people!

[@AndyKing1963]

their March 2022 UK tour was the best I've heard them play in 40 years

[@lemming9984]

@@AndyKing1963 "them"? Seems a strange term, as there's no original members, just a name used to link to the original TD.

[@AndyKing1963]

@@lemming9984 ALL of the original founding members left in Feb/March of 1969 - bar Edgar Froese, so technically nobody has ever heard the original members ;)

[@lemming9984]

@@AndyKing1963 LOL! I was referring to the 'classic' line ups Alpha Centauri - possibly Force Majeure.

[@AndyKing1963]

@@lemming9984 fantastic lineups - but not founding members, either way, brilliant music

[@MisterWondrous]

That criticaster at the end there reminded me of so many criticasters when the progs were laying out the future of ear desserts. Back when synths were analog, and all sounds had to be designed, the trick was to try and tape everything, and make incremental changes for paths of exploration. Today, it is as if all instruments are autotuned and all beats held to military precision. This is both a blessing an a curse. I discovered the blessing side one auspicious day when I saw that Misters Moog and Kurzweil were going to be demonstrating their new Kurzweil synthesizer at MIT later that day. Long story short..."Sold, American!" (a throwback to tobacco days). 10k in the mid-'80s was real money. Experience was limited to playing them in music stores, until the price point came down to their 2k K2000. Most of my shared music was from those learning curve beasts. Thanks for digging on this great pioneering music. I had Phaedra and a double album, but was unfamiliar with this beautiful creation.

[@markharwood7573]

For me, this is Tangerine Dream's sublime masterpiece. Phaedra was experimental but this time they knew what they were doing. It deserves to be heard properly, so it's the opposite of ambient. I don't know why people refer to such music as "ambient". It isn't background music, so turn it up! There are excellent musicians who are still basically recreating this and Ricochet, and good luck to them. It's worth doing. But there is a magic to Rubycon that has stayed with some of us for nearly 50 years now.

[@a.k.1740]

I think TD's music can also be ambient but not static, because it is constantly moving like here. Impossible to be tired of this masterpiece even after 47 years of listening.

[@freddymo3339]

[@punker-gamer-trucker-guy]

This is such a gorgeous record. I like the idea of taking a song like Pink Floyd's echoes cutting out any pop music parts and then stretching what's left out to 30 to 40 minutes. In fact I feel like it's the perfect companion piece for Pink Floyd's Meddle. I need to get this on vinyl so the next time I torture the family with echoes I can throw this on right after it.

[@kenl2091]

This, to my ears, is better and more accessible than Phaedra owing to the pleasant melodies and the rhythmic sequencing that starts around the 10 minute mark (in your video) - they had perfected their style by this point and that's confirmed by (official) bootlegs of many of their improvised shows from 1975-78. Kraftwerk tend to get most of the plaudits for the seminal nature of this type of electronic music but that's because they embraced pop (wisely for their bank balance, but sometimes disappointingly for people like me who like to explore the 'new') On the other hand, TD perhaps were too seduced by the 'film soundtrack' bucks to go wildly off on a tangent thereafter. Nevertheless, Rubycon might be their finest 35 minutes.

[@lemming9984]

At the time of this album (give or take a year) TD played gigs in Cathedrals across Europe. I missed seeing them at Coventry Cathedral, not far from where I used to live, but I did see Klaus Schulze (early TD member) there about 1982. Very atmospheric.

[@AndyKing1963]

50% of Rubycon was recorded in 1974 of course. Klaus wasn't an original founding member (joining two years after Edgar started the band) - a superb musician though

[@linuxgameplayxp6246]

This is my favorite TD album.

[@freddymo3339]

10 minute intros !? Then, "Godzilla, mother fakers ! I must have O D'ed on that chit !!" I bought this album in 1974 and about 50 other of theirs throughout the years Next EXIT then LEGEND ,..etc.

[@dennispope1355]

I own all the Tangerine Dream albums up to Live Miles not including the soundtracks. Rubicon is a great album. It may sound minimal but there is a lot going on there. I think it might be the only one that has "Prepered Piano". They sure didn't avoid experimenting. If you like Rubicon, you have to check out the Edgar Froese album "Epsilon in Malysian Pale". It's an excellant companion piece to Rubicon. There are two versions. I'd seek out the original mix. Enjoy.

[@josdurkstraful]

With Rubycon everything came together perfectly. It's all downhill from there on.

[@masterpeace8539]

imo they went downhill from like Exit. Their live recordings from '76-77 (those found in Tangerine Tree bootlegs) are still perfect.

[@mvjonsson]

@@masterpeace8539 I consider Underwater Sunliight their last great studio album.

[@a.k.1740]

@@mvjonsson I agree. After Underwater Sunlight the inspiration declines (I'm not a fan of Tyger, and Livemiles is a truncated album, half live or even not at all !). Anyway, for me the departure of Chris Franke meant the end of Tangerine Dream (even if its creator Edgar Froese was still present).

[@AndyKing1963]

@@a.k.1740 Livemiles in 100% fake, done as a contract filler with not a second from a live concert: source: Jerome Froese

[@AndyKing1963]

@@mvjonsson Their new album RAUM is brilliant

[@filbymusic]

My favourite all time album. And part 2 is even better.

[@paulhansberry8168]

they are unique and a little bit goes a long way, when your in the mood for something like this, they satisfy.

[@-davidolivares]

Shades of Pink Floyd, same year, wish u were here, hmmm… I prefer Stratosfear.

[@a.k.1740]

For me Rubycon and Stratosfear are equally excellent, just that Rubycon is more atmospheric and Stratosfear more melodic.

[@-davidolivares]

@@a.k.1740 I’m not diminishing earlier albums but, they are for a different state of mind, sometimes I want soundscapes, sometimes not as much.

[@michaellomax2]

Now try TOMITA who did similar sound stages and synth versions of some classical pieces.

[@stevenlagoe7808]

Tomita! That takes me back. I had an album of his when I was young. Can't remember what it was called. All I remember was it was classical pieces and he'd used the light curves of variable stars as the waveforms for the sounds. As an amateur astronomer and a fan of electronic music I found that doubly interesting. (Do not excuse the pun!) 👍

[@michaellomax2]

@@stevenlagoe7808 you can search his album catalogue and look for the album cover, if you remember it. His work is also here on KZbin. The album I had was 'Kosmos'.

[@stevenlagoe7808]

@@michaellomax2 Thank you. Found it by the cover art. Dawn Chorus! Will listen to it later and try Kosmos after that. Cheers.

[@alejandrobojorquez6181]

SPACE - MAGIC FLY 1977 Full Album

[@davidford3744]

I do believe the first part of Rubycon is practically just Edgar Froese as he had a love for the mellotron. His solo album "Epsilon in Malaysia Pale" is practically just Mellotron with a few other keyboards added. I think the TD sound was defined by the Moog Sequencer, and was very unique, but copied by a couple of other electronic Krautrock artists. I know that the Sequencer was used almost like and instrument its self in the way that rhythmic patterns where switched by hand in both recording and live settings. The use of Reel to Reel tape was also unique to them at that time. Everything was practically played on the fly, so there must have been alor of running about between keyboards and Sequencer before it got up on to tape

[@wtc175]

Great appraisal of a great album!

[@murdockreviews]

Cool. Prefer this to Phaedra.

[@MrSinnerBOFH]

One day you should listen to Encore, Tangerine Dream’s album live performance in the US tour. Of course, after listening to Mike Oldfield’s “Crises” side 1.

[@alejandrobojorquez6181]

D R O I D S - STAR PEACE 1977 electro atmospheric classics full album recommend it

[@stephenvarty191]

I think Ricochet is their best work JP but each to their own!

[@robertgyurjan4607]

TD was great till Canyon Dreams.

[@jfergs.3302]

Oh no, a soundscape... ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@paulcollins5586]

Same old comments ZZZZZZZZ

[@a.k.1740]

But wonderful soundscapes !!!! 😉

[@bobholtzmann]

Every music has its purpose, including relaxation. I used to tune the radio to Music From The Hearts Of Space in the evening to relax before falling asleep. And I'm sure I would be looking for similar music if I were doing otherwise stressful things, like filling out my taxes.

[@jfergs.3302]

@@a.k.1740 Maybe 30 odd years ago... some genres don't age well, inho.

[@a.k.1740]

@@jfergs.3302 On the contrary, for my part I find that those Tangerine Dream albums from the 70s have aged rather well.

[@milanstastny6799]

This is not "music" for me, sorry.

[@jimhardiman3836]

Ambient masterpiece. Texturally similar to Rick Wright’s keyboard work in early PF.