Tank Crashing - No nutrients - You can run your reef tank too clean!

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[@borinvlogs]

I used to do 10% water change weekly, but now i only do it once a month and i have never seen my corals this happy before. Happy reefing lol

[@jaysrealreefuk]

I agree, if you have a maturing reef and you are dosing the foundation elements of calcium, magnesium and alkalinity you don't need to. You can end up stripping out too much nitrate and phosphate and the corals suffer. Glad to hear your tank is going really well. I really appreciate the comment and watching the video 👍

[@j.fish3917]

Oh no Jay! It happened to me too. I had a massive algae bloom but finally got away. Phew 😥. Feeling for you mate. Stay safe Joe

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Glad to hear you managed to get in top of your algae. I was battling this weekend big time! Tank was really suffering. Such a difficult hobby. Thanks for the support mate. 👍

[@LayneWilson]

So very sorry to hear the setback. Its crazy a bunch of the channels I subscribe to have been plagued with problems this week. Weird... until you realize oh Im a coral hobbyist! Lol its all part of it stay positive and happy reefing!

[@juliekernahan9480]

Defo can’t do without your reef mates . Staying calm and it will recover slowly .

[@jaysrealreefuk]

It does get you flapping when you think of the money we spend 🤣😂. 1st tonight. 👌 Look forward to seeing you on the livestream. Thank you for commenting.

[@MogsysAquarium]

Absolutely brilliant update mate, that's exactly what everyone wants to see is the ups and downs of the reefing journey, so glad it's turning around now mate, like you said though small changes are better than one large one. Massive congratulations on 1k subs very well deserved mate 👍👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

You and Paul saved it. Another day or two and the nutrients would of crashed. Such a hard hobby, always learning. See you tomorrow for a few beers 👌

[@DGGuaglianone]

I know I’m late to the party, but I noticed my blood red shrimp are very sensitive to low pH. Dosing kalk at night seems to help them

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Never too late mate. It's always useful to pick up little tips on the way. Our blood red shrimp is a brilliant character in the reef. He's getting so big now. Hope your reef is doing well. Have a great weekend. 🙂

[@martf9875]

RIP,,,,shrimpy,😪,,keep em coming mate ,,👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Miss the little guy and my other shrimp is lonely 😢. Hope all is good mate? Thanks for commenting.

[@martf9875]

@@jaysrealreefuk HI, Jay ,,I know its hard when you lose livestock,,trust me it doesn't get any easier,,the longer you have em the more you get attached,,stay safe all ,,keep em coming ,👍

[@blackpearlreef8586]

🤣🤣🤣 You just couldn't resist getting the Nitrate Checker out. Great Vid Jay, good to see things are on the up. See you tomorrow on the stream mate 👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Slowing turning it around, just trying to do too much. Lesson learnt. Daren't even mention it, as you lot take the pee! 😂😂 See you tomorrow mate. 👍

[@ukm120]

Great update, really showing the roller coaster of keeping a reef tank. Congratulations on the 1k subscribers. Shouldn’t be a problem adding another fire shrimp, I’ve had no issues when adding to an existing tank even different types of cleaner shrimp.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

That's good to know. Think I will pick up another one in a few weeks. My other one has lost his mojo. Thank you for your loyal following of the channel. A week to forget. Hope you can make the livestream. 🤞

[@richardjones5290]

everyone has ups and downs in this hobby i have had my fair share of it and if they dont they are lying great vid

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Lovely comment. How can you not in this difficult hobby. So happy I didn't lose my investment. Thanks for following

[@rudra7615]

I think crashing is when everything is dieing and you got no choice but to restart. But one thing about this game is taking your time. Alot of issues is due to people jumping the gun, I think some KZbinrs unknowingly fuel this too, due to the need for content, always doing new things, but you take your time, things just even out. Even down to a simple thing like changing light settings, you acclimate that change over 30 days or weeks and chance of errors go down. Corals and fish are living organisms, so anything to reduce stress is a win. One thing I've learnt about this game is, take it slow and enjoy. I purposefully took 1.5 to 2years to slowly add and get my tank ready, still not finished but the amount of things I can get away with now is crazy, forgetting to auto top up, salinity spiking, levels of nitrates, phosphates..unlike my first 6months or 1year, the tank is so much more tolerable. Then again, I don't have sps, those need constant flow, water parameters but yeah..anyone new to this game. Take sh** slow and you won't face alot of problems you end up "patching" with expensive products etc. Enjoy this hobby, it like having a wife, not a new gf.

[@erikreagan2339]

Yeah I would not call it a crash either when every coral is open nothing is even closed. What was it that he was seeing to get worried a little slime?

[@jaysrealreefuk]

The nutrients had almost crashed to zero on the phosphates and nitrates. Glad to hear you don't think it crashed. 😊 Thank you for commenting.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Hahaha....love the last sentence 🤣😂. Sound advice which I intend to follow. When you start out, you don't realise - this hobby requires an all new level of patience. Do you share your tank on KZbin or Instagram?

[@rudra7615]

@@jaysrealreefuk nope, been learning as much as I can with a converted fresh water tank to reef. I've now got a red sea 170, and going to start..may document on Instagram but I'm only going to take it slow, so content will be thin

[@darthcon34]

So glad you got the issues sorted mate, it can be frustrating sometimes, killed me off twice over the last 12 years, but you always come back to it when you have been bitten by the bug :)

[@jaysrealreefuk]

You learn most from these mistakes. Won't be doing that again. But I do love the challenge of it. Keeps you thinking. How's the new build? Thanks for commenting mate 👍

[@darthcon34]

@@jaysrealreefuk Just going through the ugly stage but very excited, have ordered a fish online never did t hat before so cant wait till he arrives, hopefull will be all good. Very reputable company so fingers crossed

[@Jaymartin3136]

Well done Jay 1k 🤯 You are smashing this reefing business great community and glad to be on your journey with u 👏👏👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Thanks mate - so happy to hit the 1k, you are one of the OG's. Hopefully after the hip cup we can get back to growing corals.

[@mrchonks2485]

Congratulations jay (sorry I missed it )🎉

[@jaysrealreefuk]

@@mrchonks2485 thank you - a loyal follower of the channel. 👍

[@reeferexplained8846]

Great video, add phosphates and nitrates, and also get an ICP test. My test came our low on elements, Elos elements job done.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Thank you for watching and commenting. Have a great Sunday 🙂

[@aquariumaddickuk]

Zeovit guys watching this thinking "shit.you let your nitrate get UPTO .23ppm?"😂😂

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Haha 😂🤣🤣. Doesn't work for me mate. My LPS dominant nano loves nutrient rich water. Phosphates between 0.10 to 0.20ppm and Nitrates 5 to 10ppm. They would lose their head with those numbers. 😂 Thanks for watching and commenting. Hope to see you in the next video.

[@russellbrookes3172]

I have the same no nutrients tee shirt mate. Happened to me a few months back in both my tanks. The big tank was a bit easier to fix because of the fish(biodiversity) The little frag tank was more difficult, lost half the sps. I think it’s typical to go from one problem to the next, meaning no nutrients (Dinos) then to an imbalance of nutrients (cyano/algae) Happened to me, in both tanks. It’s finding that magical balance of having the good stuff out compete the bad stuff. Good luck mate!!!

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Never had the 100/1 Nitrate to Phosphate balance. That is a challenge I've not cracked yet. All reef tanks go through issues at different times. So glad I avoided the Dino's. Thank you for always commenting mate 👍

[@russellbrookes3172]

@@jaysrealreefuk I found Dinos, lack of nutrients etc better to deal with than the opposite end, cyano, slime ... an imbalance of nutrients. Is the 100/1 a true and correct number... I don’t know. It’s black magic mate I think.

[@jamiequernsify]

Lesson learned, always abit of a balancing act in a mixed reef. best of luck moving to foward 👍🏻

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Absolutely, always learning lessons. It's bloody tough! Thank you for commenting mate.

[@bigmuvver]

Nano Reefs, fun to run, I’ve a 40 Litre, SPS, LPS, I’m adding Nitrate and Phosphate to keep my levels up but it’s a full on daily check regime, things go wrong real quick, great learning video you put out there.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Nano's love a swing about. It was all good two weeks ago. You learn most from your mistakes - I've learnt alot. 🤣😂 Thank you for commenting.

[@fishpalace]

Good update jay and chuffed that the tank is on the way back to it’s best 👍🏻👏🏻👌🏻🤞🏻. Congrats on 1k subs fella, well deserved

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Thanks to you mate. Forever grateful for setting up the call. Slowly getting back on track now. See you on the livestream. 👍

[@KoiKicks]

Had to cut the coral due to swearing 😆. Watch for false negative with P04 as rock and algae can strip it, rock can soak it and or water draw it.

[@andrewmorrison2798]

Omg Jay I am absolutely devastated for you 😱😭😱

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Luckily it's started to pick up again. Just need to lift the nitrates. Thank you so much for following. 👍 Hope your all good mate?

[@marksmith566]

Congratulations on the 1K subs and overcoming the problems you’ve had, you will become a better Reefer for it and good on you for showing when things go wrong. Finally going to pick up a Tail Spot Blenny amongst other things from Celar Marines tomorrow 🙂👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Yeah, I think Lee has a few tailspot bleny's in at the moment. Cracking fish for a nano. My it full of personality and the boss of the tank. However he has no fear near the wavemakers 😬. Bloody nutter. Learn most from your mistakes.

[@gowgow2147]

Totally agree mates in the hobby are Key... different ideas thoughts and ways to do things..

[@jaysrealreefuk]

The community the hobby is amazing. I'm think it's because it's so challenging and we all run into issues at some point. Hope to see you tonight mate 👍 thank you for commenting.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

The community the hobby is amazing. I'm think it's because it's so challenging and we all run into issues at some point. Hope to see you tonight mate 👍 thank you for commenting.

[@nanosugarreef9292]

Nice one Jay, good to see you smiling 😁, I’ve no doubt got all this to come but hopefully by following your journey I might be able to learn from your mistakes and have a smoother ride 🤞🏻

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Learn from my mistakes mates. I'll keeping making them 😂. Just not Dino's 🤞 It's a bloody hard hobby but so worth it. Don't change too much and don't try to keep the tank spotless 😂. Thank you for commenting.

[@DadHD]

Glad things are settling down. You had me worried there. Finally got my phosphates down and tank is looking all the better for it!

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Such a challenging hobby. I was so worried about the livestock! Can't afford to lose them! How did you get your phosphates down? This is the hardest parameter to stabalise in my opinion. Hope to see you tomorrow night mate. 👍

[@DadHD]

Phos reactor with rowaphos. Working on getting my nitrate up as well as having to dose currently. I’ve got a couple second hand radions coming and a second power head but you’ve put the fear in me! Might wait a couple weeks to between changing anything! 😂

[@DadHD]

Phos reactor with rowaphos. Working on getting my nitrate up as well as having to dose currently. I’ve got a couple second hand radions coming and a second power head but you’ve put the fear in me! Might wait a couple weeks to between changing anything! 😂

[@HCBCHEMISTRY]

Ber of luck. It will take time for things to heal. I almost crashed my 2 gallon a few days ago. Now it's going back on track.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Glad to hear your tank has turned around mate 👍. I'm taking it steady from now on 🤣😂. Well until I see the coral tank at the LFS! Thank you for commenting and following.

[@colinmccallum6425]

Heavy sweats Jay 😅 well recovered pal,see you all tonight 👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

🤣😂🤣....petrified of losing all the money id invested. Proper head rolling moment.

[@dansoul2771]

Oh no not good. Should of listened to reef king king from the start. Advised me through a tank upgrade. Now 7months in and all good. slow and simple will wins the race in this hobby. Glad you noticed and getting back on top of it?

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Always learning and you learn most when you make mistakes. Reef King will have made these mistakes and now has the experience. 👌 Such a tricky hobby. Thank you for commenting.

[@settsreef4164]

Great vid again Jay. Sorry you have had a bad week with the tank. Its all a learning curve. Dont think you have to say sorry for no vid last week bud.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

I wanted to see how hard the hobby was and I've just learnt 🤣 but it's the challenge that makes it addictive. thanks mate 👍

[@norfolkreefer5801]

As far as I’m aware shrimps don’t don’t fight each other,but as everything in this hobby someone is bound to say different 🤣

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Haha....so many experts 😂🤣. I'm not one. Just finding my way through and see if I can have a successful reef. I think I will pick up another in a few weeks. The other one needs a friend, looks lonely. Thanks for commenting.

[@norfolkreefer5801]

@@jaysrealreefuk I’ve had my red shrimp for 2yrs,cleaner shrimp for 8 months and I just added another baby cleaner shrimp 2 weeks ago with no problems

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Yes, great news. I'm going to add another one. 👍

[@paulukreefer5012]

Hey Jay! Rocky week but you are already bouncing back... Hope it all goes well. My best advice is test test test... weekly with no change and daily (alk nitrate phosphate) when you make a significant change... I know you have a handle now but hope that helps 👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Always appreciate your help mate. Thank you. Lesson learnt. Hoping to put this week behind me. Tried to run the tank too clean and nearly paid the ultimate price. Loving your new tank. Take care mate.

[@neilsreefaquarium9530]

Great vid Jay. I certainly know this feeling mate. Its a journey and we are all learning as we go. Its good that you picked up on it soon or could have been worse. Sorry to hear about the shrimp 😔 It sucks loosing fish or corals. Keep you head up, it sounds like you are getting back on track 🙂 Such a great tank you got 😀

[@jaysrealreefuk]

....and I've got alot to learn. 😂🤣Hope your tank is slowly recovering? Great to have you on the livestream your comments make me laugh. Have a great weekend mate 👍

[@seangriffiths9163]

Enjoying your channel and journey with your tank 👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

So was I until this week 😂😂. Still learning. Thank you for following and commenting.

[@uploadsbytom3720]

Congrats on 1k subs man!

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Thank you so much mate. Loving the journey, except this week 😂😬😢

[@JustMyFish]

How are you doing buddy ? Sorry not been around in awhile work has really picked up. And I’m building a large pond at the moment so every bit of time I get I work on that. Great video keep up the good work. 😊👍🏻💞

[@jaysrealreefuk]

All good mate, well now the tank has bounced back 🤣😂. Looking forward to getting a few more corals in. Looking forward to watching your next update. Would love to see the pond, once it's completed.

[@23degreesNorth]

Oh no been watching from the start and enjoying the journey hope it turns around for you , was looking at the nano myself now thinking about the reefer 170 I’ve already started lying to the mrs about cost and I haven’t brought anything yet 😂

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Haha....mate, you can't share the true cost 🤣😂. Go for the 170, I wish I did now. Great tank by the looks of it. My tank is slowly turning around thank goodness, nutrients bottomed out . Thank you for following and commenting.

[@23degreesNorth]

@@jaysrealreefuk glad to hear it looking forward to the next update 🤞

[@gowiththeflow7953]

Your becoming a learned reefer mate 👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

It's a bloody hard hobby. 😂 Can't let it die now, spent too much money 😂😂

[@neilsmith5883]

Great video Jay. My tank ATM is going through a similar thing. Corals not as big as usual and 1 of my fish has a bit of ick on it. I'm not one for bottles of cure juice but I may have to start thinking about it.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Its a difficult one because you don't want to strip all the nutrients. Perhaps, try increasing the nitrates through natural foods. It seems more common than I first thought from the comments. Let me know how you get on. Take care mate.

[@swarf7251]

Damn I only go through 2 cubes a week and my tanks twice the size with 7 fish and loads of inverts. I don't get how everyone gets low nitrates I struggle to get lower than 20ppm

[@erikreagan2339]

Me too they are starving there fish and coral for this no nutrients in hope they never see a strand of alge. You are going to have alge you get animals to take care of it. If it was not all over the place in the ocean tangs and lawnmower belinis would not live off the stuff. We are doing it right heavy nutrients in heavy nutrients out everything is healthy and not stressed out. Feed them more like 4 of the cube a week. I just started 2 times pelits in the AM with amino and reef roids and then a bunch of different frozen little pieces at night maybe some more roids and LPS nuggets every other day.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Hahaha.....yep, your feeding routine is normal! I've gone bloody mad with it 😂🤣. Cut it right back - lesson learnt

[@danieltaylor4499]

Giving the chalice away jay????????? 😉😂

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Hahaha....surprisingly that was the only coral unaffected. Bullet proof that thing 😬. I would cry if it died 😬😂

[@danieltaylor4499]

@@jaysrealreefuk never good losing anything never mind a full crash!! Need some of that vibrant, been to a few LFS and cant find it anywhere

[@jaysrealreefuk]

I can't tell you how impressed I was with vibrant. Works miracles. Wouldn't be without it now. I ordered my online from Kraken Corals. Always learning in this hobby. Take care mate.

[@xXFUZZYMONK]

Loving your videos mate! Going through the exact same problem after doing a big water change (for no reason tbh) I’m also dosing phyto and AB+ everyday to up the nutrients! Did you skip your weekly water change too?

[@jaysrealreefuk]

I skipped the water change for this week as the water change lowers nutrients and I dose calcium, mag and alk anyway so those levels are still fine. Will do a change next week - just a small one (10%) Thank you for following and commenting mate 👍

[@oliverwagner6604]

Do you have a list of ideal water parameters? Just out of curiousity

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Every tank is different and it also depends on the type of corals you are trying to grow. Stability of parameters is probably more important. Most people aim for the following Temp: 25.5 Celsius Salinity: 1.025sg Alk: 8 and 9ppm Nitrates: 2 to 5ppm Phosphate: 0.3 to 0.5ppm Calcium 440ppm Magnesium: 1300 to 1400ppm Ammonia: 0ppm Nitrite: 0ppm Hope that helps. Thank you for commenting.

[@nanocpx]

You doing a great job on the reef Jay, when you getting a bigger tank?? 😂👍

[@jaysrealreefuk]

When I can afford one 😂🤣. Thought I was going to have to pay to restock this one! Scary times. Thanks for commenting. 👍

[@KoiKicks]

Jeez, you've broke every rule in the book 😁 but for me too many changes in a short time so you can't tell the results of a change. I've learnt that if I feel like changing things then the tank isn't ready for more coral etc. How old is the tank?

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Hahaha...went rogue and changed everything 🤣😂🤣. Won't be doing that again. I wasn't sure if my nutrients were a false negative. How do you know? Thanks for your help and commenting.

[@KoiKicks]

0.00 p04 reading but algae is growing so consuming nutrients.

[@MrDavidjacko]

Better to dose nitrate and phosphate...that what im doo..as im have low nutritions level...if you doo need any just get in touch im can supply ... The vibrat etc etc will help ..but not for long journey Have nice rest of the day

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Do you use brightwells? I did pick up coral essentials phosphate power up, but didn't use it as phosphate started to rise. It's now 0.04ppm, which is good. What are your nitrates and phosphates? Do you have any problems?

[@MrDavidjacko]

@@jaysrealreefuk im make me own product...im running ultra low nutrition..is better to have under control ...twith let say 0 phos.0 nitr..and then just dosing how much you wanna or where u wanna to be

[@MrDavidjacko]

@@jaysrealreefuk me phosphate is about 0.05 nitrate about 2=5 ppm but mostly when im run test the undetected but corals are happy 😊

[@jaysrealreefuk]

@@MrDavidjacko how do you know the levels, when it's undetectable? I'm not sure if I have this issue?

[@MrDavidjacko]

@@jaysrealreefuk like im mean the readings are 0.... of phos and nitrate

[@trojon]

Don't think it's the number of things you've added (bioload is not significant other than the fish). Sounds like everything else you've changed lol!

[@jaysrealreefuk]

I've got over excited thinking the tank was stable. The main issue is running the tank too clean. Hopefully it's on the mend. 🤞. Lesson learnt. Thank you for helping.

[@lucasteeny8714]

What filtration and media do you use in this tank?

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Biohome Ultima and Maxspect Nano Spheres. What you thinking?

[@lucasteeny8714]

@@jaysrealreefuk do you use any chemi pure or filter floss?

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

U should get u boy a puppy! American bulldogs is bestest ones! 😉🐶 they good for watching u reef tank and protec from burglers! 🥰🐶

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Haha...lovely dogs, I would love another dog, but I chose a reef tank so then my missus chose a cat! Not sure a dog would work now 😂🤣😂

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

@@jaysrealreefuk u needs a new missus I think 🤷‍♂️😂🐶

[@jaysrealreefuk]

@@JakeDogg-RIP hahaha....bloody funny! 🤣😂 Take care mate. 👍

[@JakeDogg-RIP]

@@jaysrealreefuk u too my frend! I hope u reef is doing ok since the crash! Good reminder about the settings/parameters 🐶

[@SuperYellowtang]

Hi m8 have you got any air fresheners near the tank

[@jaysrealreefuk]

No, I've made sure not to use aerosols or fragrance near the tank. What makes you think that? Do they strip nutrients? Thanks for commenting. Hope to see you tomorrow mate.

[@snoggful]

@@jaysrealreefuk or 17 candles maybe?

[@SuperYellowtang]

@@jaysrealreefuk my wife put a pet air freshener on the opposite side of the room from my tank and I had white stringy stuff on my rock and in my sump and that was the issue the air freshener as for nutrients not sure

[@erikreagan2339]

Your parameters where perfect they where better before you worried about them and change them. The no3 and po4 where not 0 and to raise it all you need to do is feed the tank. It was more likely the light change. I don't see low nutrients doing that there are so many people are starving there fish to keep no3 and po4 low. But the light change to high output sps dominant setting with no aclatimation would be a definite strain and they might get all slimy to protect. Like us getting sunburn. And all you need to do to change no3 and po4 immediately just throw in food.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Interesting point on the nitrate and phos. Im struggling with the 100/1 balance of nitrate to phosphate. Never got close to it. I do think the lighting did play a significant part in driving the algae. Thank you for the help and advice 👍

[@j.fish3917]

YES FINALLY IM FIRST

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Hahaha....Yes! Thank you for you support and comment. 👍

[@davidwhitefoot5680]

advise - stop pumping stuff in!!

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Will do. We learn most from our mistakes. Thank you for helping me.

[@jaysrealreefuk]

Are you on Instagram?

[@danmason6116]

It is not any fun when your tank crashes I probably lost more than 10 k

[@jaysrealreefuk]

😥 So sorry to hear that. I would be in bits as well. What has happened mate? It scares me to think that a small equipment failure or a water parameter can change everything.