Tankfest Thoughts 2018 Part 1

[@jontheno3213]

I was expecting when the US infantry re-enactors came on screen he'd put: Infantry (feet)

[@SonsOfLorgar]

Pootis Man you missed out on a "hush puppies" joke! (Hush puppies= rubber padded tracks primarily for the centurion afaik)

[@3rdrevant]

ME TOO

[@Tinblitz]

Or if you follow Napoleon quotes: "Stomachs".

[@Retrosicotte]

Asked a mate in the Royal Engineers regarding the switch to scissors bridge. His reply was that it was due to speed of deployment (it's a lot faster, apparently), reliability of the mechanism, but the biggest reason was speed of recovery of the bridge. With this you pretty much hook, lift, go. With horizontal it's a little more complicated. There were also minor things like that this comes down at a steeper angle, and can thus be used on more varied terrain than one that much possibly slide "through" something. The example he gave was on Salisbury there is a common place they use the scissors to crush bushes and small trees, to teach that it can be done. However of note, the British Army retains the BR90, which IS a horizontal launch, for times when it is preferred. Also mounted on a much quieter protected truck, so obviously to aim at less overt uses.

[@chazt8604]

Retrosicotte The BR90 replaced the MGB and fills a different role to the AVLB. Since it is built from sections it could not be launched in any other way except horizontally. As far as I know the Titan was always going to be a vertically launched scissors bridge (initial studies included both styles but vertical launch was known and proven in British service). It has a larger launch envelope (heights of the different banks, ie laid against walls or when the far bank is much higher) than the vertical launch system. Originally it was faster and enabled a longer span to be laid but I am not so sure with the newer horizontal launch systems (I have been out of the Sappers for 11 years now).

[@MilesStratton]

Didn't make it to tank fest this year. My disappointment in myself is immeasurable and my day is ruined...

[@thekebabizer4620]

why couldn't you miles I tought you even collected the donations? what happened?

[@TheEnricoMicheli]

That's for Gamescom

[@_Matsimus_]

Wish I could have gone also buddy!!

[@nothingtoseehere1221]

Matsimus dayum bro, never thought i'd see you here

[@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs]

Tankfest was a blast this year. It was nice meeting you and David Fletcher

[@robot-he6nq]

The Iron Armenian aka G.I. Haigs it was really fucking hot though.

[@jaek_898]

robot 1435 american hot or european hot

[@robot-he6nq]

Jæk I live in Texas, American hot

[@badbrowniez]

robot 1435 it was 80 degrees dude lol that's not hot

[@jaek_898]

Badbrowniez so european hot. Therefore robot 1435 doesnt live in texas.

[@_Matsimus_]

My god I am so jealous!! Wish I could make it and 1. Meet you and 2. Enjoy the tanks!

[@loganov]

Great video, Nick! Minor clarification, though. On the M4A1, your onscreen annotation indicates the R-975 as a "rotary" engine. In fact, it's a radial. Very similar, but the whole engine spins in the case of a rotary engine. A radial engine has the same cylinder configuration, but doesn't go spinning in circles like its cousin.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Crap, you're right.

[@loganov]

Happens to the best of us.

[@NikoNeko.]

Beat me to it by 5 hours, but I wouldn't call a rotary and a radial similar at all.

[@dposcuro]

Nikola, similar in form factor. Big engine with cylinders splayed out from a central hub. Then there's the other rotary of magic spinning triangles.

[@MeowMeowDeathRay]

"Rotary" just means the whole engine spins. There are examples of rotary but not piston engines.

[@MilitaryAviationHistory]

Uh, there's that bridge layer I missed! Not sure how that happened, considering its size...

[@arthipex8512]

Now I only have to find the comment from Military History Visualized.

[@Achatius1982]

"It was what it was" true words, I am a German. I'm not even close to right wing, but I think historical objects, even when used in games, should have their historical appearance. Shouldn't people realize, that war crimes were done, with these machines?

[@uncletomcobley6950]

Achatius1982 ye if history is rewritten or sanitized then future generations won’t be able to learn from it.

[@sirmoke9646]

Not exactly... axis symbols are generally not used in games etc... The hammer and sickle is displayed proudly in just about every video game despite being banned by the same law as the swastika in the EU and most countries around the world. It is just PC double standard bullshit most of the time.

[@Tinblitz]

I think the only sticking point legally should be when someone uses it politically. Other than that you might as well let it be in historical games and shows.

[@thandokhan1962]

Lt_Joker ever seen the german version of of RtCW or the new Wolfenstein games?

[@tigercat418]

Achatius1982 little babies burning in basements because of us British bombs is war crime ?

[@frealms]

7:47 That's why you don't use World of Tanks to train your gunners.

[@luchs2907]

Hope ya can snag a inside the hatch on that IS-3!

[@tigercat418]

Michael Boyd imagine asking a is3 about Calais

[@SteelbeastsCavalry]

You're simply TOO FAMOUS NOW Chieftain! : D

[@TNX255]

I was there, Tankfest was awesome! Those Shermans sounded really cool in person, especially the first one with the radial engine. Another thing that was interesting to see was just how much blue smoke those Soviet tanks (including the Type 59) produced. No other diesel engined vehicle got even close. I wonder if they only do that when the engine is cold or even when warm?

[@petesheppard1709]

This was a really fun video! My mind boggles when I think of the mechanical forces involved in operation a scissors bridge, and that grease spot apparently going opposite of the sprocket on the Easy 8 (an illusion caused by the video camera, of course) was a bit eye-twisting. :p

[@jhrandomvidsofficial]

if anyone ever said their hero seemed shorter than expected this is certainly not the case meeting the Chieftain of which i managed to meet and stand next to and get a picture with while at tankfest honestly tankfest is amazing but sometimes just seeing someone you've spent hours watching on youtube and learning from them it actually becomes perhaps the best part of tankfest to actually meet the people who helped you become perhaps who you are today (my work colleagues are fed up of tanks...for some reason lol)

[@AndreHerrmann1202]

Awesome! Still have to go to the Tankfest, it was great to see your commentary and that collection you did! Keep up the good work! Greetings from Germany.

[@davidfromkyushu6870]

Megatron! I was curious if it was that tank again. This is like the ADD version of a Chieftain video. "This is a nice little Lincoln armored- And here's a line of Shermans!"

[@Deltaguy447]

Was a great honor and lots of fun to meet you at tankfest Cheiftain, was fun to shake your hand and be the first Norwegian you met that day ^^

[@andywoof7360]

10:10 Feigned interest in scale models, you just wanted to get a shot of the girl with the legs didn't you!

[@setesh1294]

glad I got to go this year. was an absolute blast.

[@florianN132]

Very nice video, looking forward for what's to come soon :) Especially liked the Sherman engine-sound comparison at the end!

[@Larwenful]

The M16 GMC being the living embodiment of the principle that if firepower isn't solving your problems, you're not using enough.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

I was there when you were recording this and looked forward to it. Very nice meeting you Nick. I know you were very keen to get the videos recorded, but the highlights of Tank Fest were meeting so many people that we've come to know, respect and admire on KZbin. Hope to see you again next year.

[@milleniumsword1558]

Was awesome meeting you at Tankfest. 👍 and yes saw some People walk right infront of the camera while chieftain was trying to Film in the Museum.

[@larrybrown1824]

Thanks Chieftain. Getting to a Tank Fest is on me bucket list. Kind of expensive to fly across the pond, dontcha know...

[@grantlee5737]

The NMaW in Nokesville VA has two,running strvs that that they put on display very year along with a crocodile and a Jagdpanzer 38t

[@pistonar]

I can't believe that someone hasn't cosplayed Oddball's tank from Kelly's Heroes. Big speakers pumping 'working on the railroad' and 90mm fake tube.

[@johnmatkinson]

Something I can talk about: Former M-60 AVLB driver and commander, did the 80 hour New Equipment Fielding training when the 299th BN BN (1/4ID's organic EN BN late 1990s until mid 2000s) converted over to M104. Horizontal bridges take approx 3 times as much time to lay. A good, skilled AVLB crewman could drop one very fast compared to the horizontal bridges. Recovery is as fast as emplacement whereas with the Wolverine, it took about 3 times as long as emplacement. Additionally, the M104 was a pain to maintain - the computerized controls were line replaceable units and we didn't exactly have a stock of them, unlike the tanks which were produced in the thousands with spares in proportion. The old M-60 had no computers involved in launching the bridge, just hydraulics. The maintenance issues we had with the M-60 related to the fact that we had old, old vehicles. At least one in the 299th had a two digit vehicle serial number, which made it not much younger than my father. And a lot of spare parts were no longer in production and were difficult to get. A modern vehicle with a vertical launch bridge is going to be far easier to maintain. Additionally, that style of bridge can better handle situations where the embankment on the sides of the gap are at different heights.

[@DC9622]

Chieftain, during your Sherman research have you found references to Sherman 90mm prototype or the actual vehicle? It is covered by RP Hunnicutt Sherman, page 212. Summary: The 90mm Sherman, was requested by The Amour Board. They had concluded Autumn 1943 that Sherman would be the only tank available for Normandy. However, the “Role of the Army Ground Forces in development of equipment Army Ground Forces study No 34 1946, red book” does cover events. “In November 1943, ETO requested the highest priority be given development of the T26El tank, mounting a 90mm gun. General Devers, then Commanding General of ETO, requested production of 250 of these tanks on the basis of providing one for each five M4’s”. This request, does challenge the view there was no “Battle Need” request from the field. This was apposed by General McNair, who favoured towed Anti-Tank weapons to deal with enemy tank. General Eisenhower, also apposed because of logistics impact, bridging equipment etc, because they thought at the time the 76mm was up to the job”. However, it does beg the questions, if the 76mm was up to the job, then logically why is General Devers asking for a 90mm tank, what did the field know? RP Hunnicutt outlined the production of a prototype, an E6 Sherman with a T25/T26 turret and modified internals. Basically, following the British firefly example get our best gun and put it into our best tank. This would have been a better solution with the space of the Pershing turret. Interestingly, Reference:WO/229/83, U.K. During the July 1944 tank panic there is an Eisenhower memo references to a 90mm gun development by the War Department to put into a Sherman, which quote is not effective against Tigers and Panthers. By July it was academic, a 90mm Sherman, solution was too little and too later for the pace of events, the eggs were in the Pershing basket.

[@Corristo89]

I had a great time there this year on Sunday. Saw you talking to Bismarck in front of the M16 and listened for a while. Can't wait for the video to be uploaded! See you next year on Tiger Day!

[@boffinboy100]

It was a privilege and pleasure to meet you and talk in person at tankfest. Hope maybe at some event in future it may occur again

[@interestingvideosofinteres5136]

I love how different engine sounds were in this video❤️.

[@timdeboer7400]

Black shirt with that weather? How did you survive?

[@M_Mccarney]

I went to a classic car show the same weekend and there were guys walking about the open fields in leather jackets. Fashion trumps discomfort apparently. EDIT: Also, there are people in the video shown wearing full combat gear whilst inside large metal boxes. I think a black shirt is positively freezing in comparison.

[@derrickstorm6976]

Because he's cold-blooded

[@tigercat418]

JammyTurtle Antifa and trump in one sentence

[@1320crusier]

Because California and South West US. Hes acclimated to the weather xD

[@DeosPraetorian]

Black clothing isn't as hot as you think

[@leandro9311]

The quadruple 50.call system was also mouted to Portuguese made Berliet Tramagal trucks and used in the Colonial War from 1963-74 with great eficiency

[@archieaj0392]

Hey chieftain I was one of the people watching you make the Sherman part with the camera fails it was quite good seeing it and watching you make the episode

[@bobbrown5529]

the stresses on that bridge would be astronomical . great video .. only 3 yrs late ..

[@EricDKaufman]

Nic, you are the only the getting through this Jingles holiday.

[@tomjoseph1444]

My dad lost most of his hearing in an M16 in korea.. His unit was overrun at night and he was on the last vehicle out firing the quad 50s without any hearing protection. I believe that the engine on that M4A1 is a radial not a rotary. A rotary engine spins the entire engine and the crank sits still. Used primarily in WWI aircraft.

[@DarthPulven]

7.40 is that lindybeige ?? i htink it is.... haha

[@bencejuhasz6459]

Yes,he is.Jingles also upload a video yesterday,where you could see both the Chieftain and Lindybeige at the same time.

[@francoandres3850]

Lindiana Beige

[@torbai]

twitter.com/HistoryGame_V/status/1013486926521921536

[@rogerhinman5427]

As a retired US Army Combat Engineer...happy to see some love for the engineering vehicles.

[@keptinkaos6384]

had a saying in my unit coughing up some beer for the sappers was way better than a long hard dig.

[@redcity1965]

First time at Tankfest this year, was absolutely amazing, had a two day pass and still didn't get round to seeing everything, would definitely go again, hopefully next time it won't be so hot.

[@SonsOfLorgar]

What if you drive there in your AFV? Do you get a premium lane? ;)

[@wayneclarkson375]

Nick couldn't make Tank Fest Shame!!! But at least you have got some footage for us. Thanks a lot awesome.

[@wotomatosauce2729]

I kept trying to get you to sign something, but you looked constantly busy.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Crap, I'm sorry. There is talk that next year they'll slot me in for an hour a day at the official signing-something location, so there is that backup option.

[@PMGF]

I think we all know Churchill bridge layer is best bridge layer

[@chazt8604]

PMGF Hmmmm try keeping up with a Centurion equipped battlegroup in the Churchill AVRE's, AVLB's and ARK's into the 1960's.

[@PMGF]

woooosh

[@shnek5143]

Those armortek RCs are soooo expensive but soooo nice...

[@maxsmodels]

It is a wheelie as the wheels came up. BTW, I think you meant radial engine, not rotary engine on the 1st Sherman to drive by.

[@team12u.k34]

That 105 sim was really fun, it can fire up to I believe 17.6 km

[@dropdead234]

4x .50 is God's way of saying "KNOCK IT OFF."

[@AkosJaccik]

- "Hey, could you hand me the remote control, please?" Titan (comfortably on the couch) - "Uuh, sure." (proceeds to annihilate the ceiling)

[@YouOnlyIiveTwice]

Man...derping HE with the 105 mm gun on the Sherman in WoT back in the old days of the game was hilarious. Cool they have a Sherman 105 there.

[@Tinblitz]

"You'd 'Ave to do it backwards to be a trackie". Got to love the West Country accent.

[@dub870]

I laughed hard for some reason at the " youd have to do it backward to be a trackie" comment!

[@murphtahoe1]

Hmmm....I wonder if I could set up a trip to the British Isles and not tell my wife the reason I really want to go is to see Tank Fest? I might have to think this through.

[@randyburks3004]

Cant wait for more of these

[@pelmen1294]

Stunned shock. I cracked up.

[@sethl6626]

Do you think the US Army would send an Abrams with crew to our friends across the pond for tankfest? I think it would really be amazing to have both the Chally 2 and the Abrams, both having seen a lot of combat, on the track together

[@ex59neo53]

I'm like you Chieftain ,i love tanks ,but if there is an half-track in the surroundings ,it's my first choice too :)

[@11bravocrunchie22]

Radial engine, not rotary. It’s not an RX-7

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

Quite correct. Edited text description. I don't think I can overlay on KZbin any more

[@torbai]

Takahashi brothers' FC and FD...

[@dposcuro]

There are two types of engine which Rotary refers to: 1: Looks like a radial, but the crankshaft is affixed to the firewall, or some other fixed point, and it is the cylinders that spin around it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYrGXntujMxgg7M 2: The type you are familiar with, which features magic spinning triangles.

[@0nkelD0kt0r]

Goldmarble More precise name for the second one would be Wankel engine or Wankel rotary engine to not confuse the two but the first one is pretty weird and unusual anyway.

[@11bravocrunchie22]

And either way, the Sherman didn't use a rotary radial engine. The crank case and cylinders were mounted to the chassis, making it a standard radial engine.

[@torbai]

I Have a question: According to FM 17-33 Tank Battalion 1949, there was a "heavy tank battalion" with three tank companies in Armored Divisions. However, the M26 was re-designated as Medium Tank M26 in 1946, and the first real American heavy tank, the 120mm Gun Tank M103, was introduced to service in 1957. 300 T43 heavy tanks were built in 1953 but they got stucked in Aberdeen. And M46 was still called Medium Tank M46, and 90mm Gun Tank M47 and 90mm Gun Tank M48 were both considered as medium tanks. Thus there were no "heavy tanks" for the "heavy tank battalion". So what kind of tank was the "heavy tank battalion" using, or did this type of unit only exist on paper, or the "heavy tank" was a kind of role other than a kind of tank?

[@jacobeberhardt1649]

That bridging vehicle should be your transition.

[@ohslowpoke4720]

11:21 Engine noises M4A1 - Lively Chatter M4A2 - Weird burble M4A3 - Smooth FERD M4A4 - 100 Sewing Machines in a metal box

[@Soleil_de_Helturel]

Those radial engines make everything they're put on sound like aircraft.

[@lwilton]

Nice of the engineers to bring out a prefab corduroy road. A shame they didn't have deep enough mud to make it practical to demonstrate its use. :-)

[@drrocketman7794]

@Chieftain, a question: I saw another video of an M50 or M51 Super Sherman that was being rebuilt, and it appeared to be the M4A1 Sherman to begin with, given the necessary modifications with modern (for the time) armament by the new Israeli Army, and apparently this particular tank retained the radial aircraft powerplant...was this a thing or did Israeli procurement simply snatch up any Sherman tank they could find, fix it up as best they could and slap whatever modernization they could get their hands on and bang, new tank for IDF?

[@quentintin1]

it seems the IDF snatched what tanks they could get their hands on, but had preferences to what tanks they updated i'm not sure on the M-50, but on, the M-51 they preferred M4A1s, most of the M-51s out there are large hatch M4A1E8 with late T26 turret and sharp nose E8543 differential cover

[@spider0804]

That m4 with the multibank sounds smooth.

[@yareyare_dechi]

loled hard, epic scissor bridge, slowly and laboriously extends. fascine, *plop* "eh."

[@armandorodrigues144]

OK, knowing Wargaming recent trend we will most likely see the american "Easy 8" Firefly in the game as a premium

[@BigSwede7403]

Hmmm. I know the Swedish IKV 91 (light tank) was called "Järven" (Wolverine) but i´m unsure if that was official or just shorthand.

[@team12u.k34]

I think I saw you for a split second in the meet and greet

[@snowstalker36]

I love the sound of that radial! And is the Chrysler Multibank really that much quieter?

[@axelrajr]

great video. perhaps its just that the scissor bridge is mechanically a lot simpler than the other type? you just unfold it, you don't have to slide the pieces along each other then line them up and connect them. and all of the ones i have seen, they are permanently connected and use gravity to maintain the center connection. and i would imagine the vehicle is a lot simpler because of it.

[@chazt8604]

James Axelrad We have been using scissors bridges in the UK since WW2 (Covenanter AVLB) through Churchill, Centurion, Chieftain AVLB's all using vertical launch. It used to be quicker and enable a longer bridge to be laid (so a wider gap to be spanned) but not sure with the newer systems in use now. The vertical launch bridges were also more flexible, being able to be laid with banks at significantly different heights or against obstructions like walls or high vertical banks.

[@axelrajr]

Chaz t that's what I think too,but the comment was in reference to the section on the advantages and disbanded of each type.

[@SinOfAugust]

Ending had made it for me.

[@markmcgibbon7013]

Doesn't look anywhere as near as sunny as on the day

[@robbleeker4777]

No explanation why that Sherman had Dutch markers? I think that detail is adding to the unusual, don't you agree?

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

It used to be a Dutch Sherman? I never asked.

[@wtfmrb293]

Love the sound of the m4 radial engine ( thanks mate. I mean wow like driving a sports car or a high performance airplane.

[@bencejuhasz6459]

It's a radial, not a rotary engine. About the engine sound: no wonder, because the R975 was originally an airplane engine.

[@wtfmrb293]

Yes exactly ops wte it sounded awesome hh

[@Steve_Farwalker]

I love tanks so much. sniff.

[@ianperry4768]

Iirc the Chrysler Multibank was made by slapping together some AMC 4.0 Liter straight 6 engines, the same engine in my 2001 Jeep.

[@nomcognom2332]

7:36 A wild Lindybeige appeared on the right!

[@MrWoodii]

Good spot sir!

[@russwoodward8251]

Lots of cool stuff.

[@racernatorde5318]

I think you must sell half your soul to be able to classify Shermans correctly. I would have loved to have seen you pull of the trackie/wheelie!

[@practicing1]

useful data about the bridge type

[@MakeMeThinkAgain]

Didn't know about the 105mm Sherman.

[@Zirkobi]

All these people driving in the wrong lane....

[@XEyedN00b]

Chieftain, how do you, as a tank gunner, deal with parallax effect when using a periscopic sight? If you were to fight in "close quarters"

[@flyer5769]

The M4A1 (Rotary). Did that come from a Mazda? Oh u meant radial engine lol .

[@apsestasis]

Tankfest was great this year, but it was just too damn hot!

[@Khorsathedark]

Great video sir!

[@pjbth]

That tank with the digger on it reminds me of the movie Armageddon in that seems completely backwards. Why train drillers to be astronauts when the opposite is much easier. Why make a tank into digger when armouring a digger would be much easier.

[@cirian75]

Oi Oi Nick, I didn't go this year so sorry for not being able to meet you.

[@ianperry4768]

Chieftain I recently stumbled upon your channel and I'm happy I did. I don't play World of Tanks but I do love history. One question though, where are you from originally? You have a very unique accent.

[@TheChieftainsHatch]

San Francisco, CA. Though the accent is formed primarily from 15 years or so in Ireland.

[@Zakiriel]

Nick, it is WW 2, of all the choices out there, what is your go to war tank?

[@jayfelsberg1931]

Love the Cav hat.

[@wuppieigor]

Damn that multibank is running so quiet

[@derrickstorm6976]

Amazing hat, Sir!

[@genericpersonx333]

There are times when I wonder how Mr. Moran's thesis about the Sherman being the best tank for the USA holds up when you consider how many different powerplants they had. How could one manage to find spares for all those different engines??? However, I then remember that Germany opted not to ask its car companies to lead production of panzers but rather its heavy engineering companies that built construction equipment and locomotives in general and I see how the USA managed to utterly leave Germany in the dust in production. You do not want people who build trains to mass produce anything because they spend all day asking how they can tweak this piece to get more performance rather than asking how they can make ten more exactly the same for the cost of only five units. Detroit for the win, 1944.

[@RWJP]

Where possible, units would be equipped with only one type of Sherman, so they only needed to worry about one set of spares. However, the US manufacturing capability was so great they could build spare parts basically as quickly as complete tanks. Also, the US did use plenty of train companies for it's tanks. Lima Locomotive Works in Ohio was the first company that manufactured M4A1 Shermans for the UK. Baldwin Locomotive Works built M3 Lees and M4 Shermans... Then there was also Pressed Steel Car Co, Pullman Standard Car Co, who made railway cars, and American Locomotive (ALCO) and Pacific Car and Foundry. Railway companies were one of the few types of companies who actually had the correct equipment and engineering capacity to mass produce tanks. Of the 10 main builders of Shermans in the US, 2 were actual Arsenals (Detroit and Fisher) only 1 was a Motor Car company (Ford), 1 was a Heavy Engineering and Tool Company (Federal Machine and Welder) and the other 6 were railway companies.

[@drrocketman7794]

Trojan looks like the M48A5/M60 AVLB I used in the military when I was in

[@chazt8604]

Jonathan Sandahl Followed on from our Covenanter - Churchill - Centurion - Chieftain AVLB line, all vertical launch bridgelayers.

[@abaj006]

4:58, is this a typical example of German armor being brittle ?

[@Castragroup]

can you do a inside the hatch of a Panzer lV???

[@roadrunner6224]

Germany still uses the horizontal design with the new Leguan.

[@hiddedenbesten1084]

Peter Zwegert im pretty sure the leopard bridgelayers also use scissorbridges. But that could just be the Dutch leguans.

[@roadrunner6224]

sniper 901 no just looked it up, the german Leguan definetly uses the horizontal system

[@philipbossy4834]

10:33 So it's using the derp gun. Those are fun!