Tanks are BUFFED with Passives & Armor | Overwatch 2 - Mid-Season 10 Patch

0:00 Intro
GENERAL
0:05 Armor Changes
1:08 Global Healing Passive [BUFF]
TANKS
1:51 NEW Tank Passive - Headshot Reduction [BUFF]
2:02 Tank Knockback Resistance [BUFF]
2:53 Full Spreadsheet of Changes
3:13 Junker Queen [BUFF]
3:37 Sigma [BUFF]
4:01 Wrecking Ball [BUFF]
4:30 Zarya [BUFF]
DAMAGE
4:58 Junkrat [BUFF]
5:42 Echo [BUFF]
6:03 Hanzo [BUFF]
SUPPORT
6:25 Brigitte [BUFF]
NEW SKINS
6:47 Porsche Collab
COMPETITIVE CHANGES
6:57 Demotion Protection Modifier
7:33 Pressure Modifier
7:55 Grouping Restrictions
8:07 Losing Streak Changes
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⭐ Tank Armor + Passive Change Spreadsheet by @CactusPuppy
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[@KarQ]

Timestamped for you. Sigma buff is broken btw lookin like a sigma meta. Also spreadsheet in description shows relative damage changes against armor/headshot on tanks. Look at it if you're a nerd in this game

[@TheJamiecoom]

Yep seems very broken ahaha

[@avilachristian]

Yeah wtf. Being able to get fluxed while in a completely unrelated room with no indication that it’s being casted!?

[@jaewol359]

Erm what the Sigma

[@orion1644]

Shame you can‘t cancel flux with tree anymore

[@JimsyFlimsy]

Erm what the Sigma

[@kaptainkool101]

Side note for us Zarya Mains: The +25% tank movement passive also affects yourself. In other words, Zarya's right click + jump has been nerfed. She barely jumps at all anymore :(

[@AntivenomOW]

This will probably be patched, right?

[@knyt0]

@@AntivenomOW yeah this happened to bastion a few seasons ago, when they fixed it they even made the knockback greater than it was before

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

Hopefully they’ll change this

[@unkennyvalley287]

​@@knyt0April fools idea: junkrat has taught bastion the idea of a heist, and bastion used it on junkrat first (stole his concussive mine)

[@MonkeyBanjo7]

That has to be a bug, their probably gonna fix it later. Cause that’s a key component to Zarya

[@hendogfn3637]

you missed the winning team nerf, where when your team is winning one of your players gets disconnected.

[@GhostWhatcher]

bro that just happened TWICE with me. first time was in the 4th round, the game crashed and disconnected and i couldn't rejoin but? i got no penalities at all? it was like the match didn't even happen. then in another game my tank DCed halfway through us wiping the floor with the other team. weird

[@Deranfan]

Mythic skins are causing those disconnects. Blizz deactivated them for the time being.

[@1DanteadamS1]

legit, happened to us too, threw my duo out of the game when we were hard winning. No ability to reconnect, no penalty.

[@AladdinJaber]

@@Deranfan dude I noticed that toO. Mythic skins in my lobbys cause lags and DCs.

[@muneebmashhhgaming]

Huh????

[@jevontae7]

Bruh, as a reaper main, I feel we are going extinct. Every patch is us getting fucked and still haven't had a rework yet or any new ability lol

[@DreamWorkshop]

Welcome to the brotherhood of zaryas where you either get no change or every change slightly buff one thing and nerf another in a big way. We cant parkour now killable becomes unkillable now🤷‍♂️

[@jevontae7]

@@DreamWorkshop I feel your pain

[@DreamWorkshop]

@@jevontae7 brother you have my bubble blossom for that. :)

[@jevontae7]

@@DreamWorkshop I appreciate u🙏

[@sushiglagla]

Sale thing for genji, he used to "one shot" with a dash and 3 shurikens in the head, now he needs a melee, and tracer is no longer one shotable with a dash 3 body shurikens and a melee

[@_gerg]

Hey KarQ heres a myth for you. As the heal regen is +5% of the maximum health, does it increase with overhealth? such as wrecking balls adaptive shields?

[@KarQ]

nope, its calculated on base health

[@Amy_399]

@@KarQ rip gerg lol

[@_gerg]

@@KarQ Thank you :)

[@lesliejacoby9137]

@@KarQ can't wait to find out they bugged dva health regen because spaghetti code go brrrr. Also does echo's health regen stay the same for duplicate?

[@marshaenderheart]

​@@lesliejacoby9137I would imagine it would change to be based on base health of the new form Thinking about it, that brings Ramattra into question

[@tronicalli7587]

2:18 that's not exactly the best example since JQ seems to carry her speed boost from her ult in the boop, making it incredibly powerful as seen.

[@fromandtounknown6575]

As a Lucio main I second this, a tank would never fly across the track like this under normal circumstances

[@matthewbrears2129]

Sigmas flux buff is massive

[@MarcoTheGreat127]

Still need to bait out before using flux -Immo field -Suzu -Ana sleep -Life grip But yeah it’s pretty much better than before

[@DizzyHotSauce]

Lifeweaver mains are sobbing rn

[@Tove5th]

​@@DizzyHotSaucegood

[@necrosis6037]

⁠@@MarcoTheGreat127immo field isn’t that effective of a counter tbh because you still get weakened and die if sigma follows up on it

[@MarcoTheGreat127]

@@necrosis6037 me when I’m a bronze player:

[@skialunar4244]

The Dragon "buff" is not that good in my opinion. With more speed it spends less time dealing damage to someone and people can get out of it easier by heading in the direction it came from more consistently.

[@AladdinJaber]

I think was the speed the rate of damage also went up right?

[@gurratell7326]

Does take long standing in that dragon to die though, so since it moves faster the surprise will be bigger and therefor maybe more lethal as well.

[@chkensammich]

Making it bigger would've been better than faster But the devs say they don't want it to be a zoning tool

[@blahblah49000]

Either way it's power creep. What they need to do is a global HP nerf.

[@kingjuancena01]

I feel like hanzos ult is nerfed tbh

[@stumbling_]

It does seem like a nerf, the zoning aspect is less now that it moves through faster. We'll have to see if the movement speed increase actually makes it so people have less chance to escape.

[@skalbaggen]

@@stumbling_ Thing is that you can still just sidestep it. You still can't aim at a guy send it and it will get a kill. Unless they are restricted by walls or something the dragon wont kill anyone without cc. ;s They should have increased the damage of dragon as well.

[@thelowlybard]

Said Hanzo was getting a "light buff" then somehow made the worst ultimate in the game even harder to get value out of

[@mr_president5421]

it is

[@Raddkann]

@@thelowlybard im fucking losing my mind dude who is responsible for these bullshit changes 😭

[@Aentismik]

I'm convinced the devs don't understand hanzo or echo at all...

[@necrosis6037]

What’s wrong with the echo buff

[@CryoByte115]

they dont know that dragon IS supposed to be a zoning tool not a damge ultimate like wtf

[@necrosis6037]

@@CryoByte115 yeah I facepalmed when I read that. It would be like reducing reinhardts shatter duration in exchange for damage

[@flamezniiinkx5327]

@@CryoByte115 they know you use it as a zoning tool. That’s why they wanted to make it better at damage.

[@EyesDontCry]

​@@flamezniiinkx5327yeah but they incidentally made it worse for damage as it goes away faster, it might surprise players for a week, but like any ult which shouts out that it's happening 2 seconds before it goes out, you can easily react to it still, they didn't make it insta spawn, it's just a bit faster. They said they were buffing hanzo, and they at best changed him and realistically berfed him, that's the bottom line here regardless of why they did it.

[@Trollman115]

3:38 I will miss those clips from Lifeweaver's Reformed Ravi :,/

[@MonkeyBanjo7]

Yeah… me too. Also rak and sog will have difficulty now with Lifeweaver comp

[@limitetpancake9459]

isnt the hanzo change a nerf? the dragon does damage while youre innit, so if its faster, you take less damage no? blizzard pls fix

[@FairyFarron]

But now it's not as easy to escape so should be more reliable

[@mentarium9741]

@@FairyFarron and it's still the worst ult in the game. moving a bit faster without any change in size means that moving to the side of the dragon is still easy even for bronze players. hanzo needs a change that helps the hero not a random "buff" that hanzo mains never wanted

[@FairyFarron]

@@mentarium9741 I mean at least it can't be blocked or stopped like many other ultimates. I'm not a top ranking player but the ultimate doesn't seem too bad if your placement is proper especially in team fights

[@alfredocaceres4680]

@@FairyFarron It's very bad, this coming from a Hanzo main. We used it for zoning or isolating enemies. Now people can just sidestep or use any immortality and the dragon will go away faster.

[@stumbling_]

@@FairyFarron I'm pretty sure dva can eat the projectile when it's initially fired

[@matthewbrears2129]

Every patch is “we’ve done X to make up for everyone’s increased health”. So what was the point?

[@alfredocaceres4680]

They don't know what they are doing, or so it seems.

[@orca047]

fr man, i still don't get why they increased everyone's health

[@horodoomwolf]

Devs are stupidly braindead, they always were. It ended up being a cosmetic change, or should I say, something they can brag about by saying "We did something! Yeah!"

[@AladdinJaber]

its because too much of the DPS players are playing a narrow meta. At high ranks when 60% of players die within 3 seconds of taking damage each death its annoying. They are focusing on balancing rather then finding ways to make tanks funner so players dont only play tracer lol

[@Meitoraku]

The patch notes guy :D

[@nickkelly3199]

The armor rework is literally a just a damage meta shift, has nothing to do with tanks. Burst hits way harder tick does way less

[@benroth5184]

Yeah, when I played tank day of Patch, I was floored with how quickly I was still being melted. It’s like they ghost applied the changes to tanks but actually applied to DPS.

[@nickkelly3199]

@benroth5184 Yeah I tried out ball first game, they played Cass and hanzo and I disappeared instantly anytime I was in LOS of both. Armor is so bad against burst damage now it may as well not exist.

[@nicholasbrackett2512]

Junkrat is back to an armor buster.

[@tbnrrenagade9507]

This was the small hanzo buff? Faster dragons? As a hanzo player, I do not like this. I'd argue this a nerf and makes dragonstrike less effective as I can't block off chokepoints for as long anymore.

[@demogemo]

As a hanzo player this is W, peak 4400SR

[@daanaerts_]

Counterpoint: it’s less easy to avoid for that shorter time since it travels much faster

[@TheRedfieldBloodline]

​@@daanaerts_But if you do catch someone, they spend less time in the dragon because it's faster

[@Suilujz]

Hanzo also got pretty mad buffs to his arrow/storm arrow dmg against armor, I guess blizzard further wants to solidify tank spamzo

[@phosphophyllite7290]

instead of a buff I'd call it an adjustment. it's better in some situations and worse in some others. but overall I'd say it's a positive change.

[@tinarcbtrosh5995]

I see my email about junkrat made it to the overwatch devs

[@leetzabach5793]

Cmon man, reaper already wasnt that good and now he has a 28-42% damage reduction vs tanks?! They already increased his spread by 30% and reduced his pellet damage in the OW2 changeover, and it's basically only gotten worse from there. The only slight upside is a minor buff to his ult, but his ult is already so situational it's often better to not use it

[@techfrank2431]

Poor reaper 😅

[@christianemerson4622]

Finally. Someone else who's noticed how much Reaper is struggling

[@soberstoners7610]

It’s because they make changes that don’t consider other heroes in the game. The lack of critical thinking blizzard has astonishes me. I can guarantee they didn’t think of reaper once

[@horodoomwolf]

​@@soberstoners7610Just wait for the rework!!!! Not gonna lie, whatever they are doing to rework Reaper won't do shit, just like Ball who still needs buffs to be somewhat viable, even after the rework

[@AladdinJaber]

reaper was so much fun in overwatch 1 first few seasons

[@awaspow]

4:18 mr karq the clips might be swapped

[@KarQ]

The mine damage? No it's correct, it's just so happens the left clip has the bot hit three mines [130 * 3 = 390], while the right side only hit two mines [165 * 2 = 330]

[@Blunkfist]

@@daanaerts_ he literally just explained it...

[@benakyn]

Question for the new dragon strike: Does it do less overall DMG when the enemies are not moving? In grav dragons for example, because it moves faster and is in contact with the enemies for a shorter amount of time? If true, this could mean that for example Lucio ult would be more viable as a counter than before

[@greystreak9630]

was messing around with zarya, was graving pinged targets at 8M with the grav at my feet

[@gudi2528]

about that Losing-streak change. i can just say, i lost like 13 of 15 Matches yesterday...from Dia to Plat. also a lot of games where ppl crashed after the patch

[@Yikes6571]

7:16 idk why, but this poor soldier dying made me laugh 😂

[@vertixx_4900]

rip jay3

[@-HeavenNNN]

Thanks for dumbing it down and keeping it simple as always. +1 sub. Keep up the good work KarQ ❤

[@dewey21dan94]

Is anyone else having trouble seeing mythical skins? I can't see the few I have Edit: Just saw on a reddit post that they temporarily disabled them as they were causing the game to crash for some players. They also removed any warnings you may have gotten for "leaving" the game

[@Woahshutitdown]

Yeah there must be some kind of bug. All mine are gone as well. And the mythic shop isn’t there currently either.

[@pepekovallin]

They've temporarily disabled mythic skins and the mythic shop, according to Aaron the skins were somehow causing disconnection problems, at the time I'm typing this they already allow you to use your skins again, but the mythic shop is still disabled for now

[@Petrichor206]

Can Reaper be a good hero for once please for the love of god. He doesn’t really have an identity anymore since he loses most 1v1’s against tanks easily and his wraith form has become more and more less effective. Compare him to Tracer he’s useless. His close range game is honestly pretty abysmal to what it should be lmfao.

[@ilyakusenco8151]

Rework is incoming. I sure hope it's a massive one. You said it right, he has no identity. Because he's OW1 tailored character in a very different game. As of right now, only identity he has is bronze-low silver lobby stomper, flanker for people who physically can't play Tracer or Genji because they're bad at a game. His rework should make him not only good for normal and high skill player lobbies, but also make sure that he would not be oppressive for low skill players. I know chad alpha gamers are not thinking about low skill players, but they're bread and butter of Blizzard, if reworked Reaper would be top 1 character for low skills he'd be nerfed to the ground again. And i doubt OW2 balance team could do this, they has to skills for such a complex task.

[@pepekovallin]

​@@ilyakusenco8151 what would you think his rework could be? Like, his kit is not necessarily bad, but they took away the thing he had going for him, his damage, and forced him to kiss his targets to get full damage, making him a better hero would mostly require a few number changes, a full reworks sounds really unnecessary

[@beefwantko7269]

honestly, why not play torb.. hes got a crazy health pool and his upclose shotgun is just as effective.. plus he has long range.. and the turret... or just play mcree.. he is sooo op right now its rediculous.. and if you read threw that spreadsheet him and ashe just got massive buffs.. and tracer and soujurn got nerfed really bad.. there needs to be a middle ground. they always swing things too far.

[@Petrichor206]

@@beefwantko7269 Reaper is my favorite character in the game. There’s always better options for different circumstances and situations, but the problem is that Reaper is outperformed in almost every category he’s useful in. If you need a tank buster, bastion is a better option. And if you need a flanker, Tracer is the move. Since he has two shotguns that are pretty lacking, he’s pretty limited to his damage capabilities and isn’t very fluid. He needs to be strong in either flanking or tank busting. Not less than mid at both.

[@DDoig1]

Pretty happy with this. The Brigitte Shield Bash reset, JQ shout during Carnage swing, bigger Graviton radius. I have been wanting all of these changes for months.

[@Pieman523]

I don’t know if its been posted or asked before but what(if there is one) is the workshop code that shows damage numbers like this in the practice range

[@swerleybird]

How does the armor change affect beam weapons? Is it still just a flat 30%? I can't find any answers still

[@KarQ]

check spreadsheet in description

[@Oliverelgato1]

Why not just answer jeez ​@@KarQ

[@rickmich18]

@@Oliverelgato1teach a man to fish

[@cryptic1008]

so can we pick people up with sigma ult on multiple floors or does it have a height limit

[@itsali654]

Btw junker Queen does 40 per shot vs armor instead of its per nerf 54

[@adamsteiff98]

Maybe it’s just me, but would it not be beneficial to swap the way armor works? More effective at blocking burst damage, like one shots. And just moderately more effective against rapid fire damage

[@Benjiizus]

We're like 8 years in and the devs are still horrendous at balancing lol

[@linkjay0401]

Sad day for Hanzo mains 🥲

[@The-Dead-Slinger]

Either they buff his arrow velocity or rework him at this point

[@theflyingtomahawk1625]

Wait why?

[@donovan_salgado]

A rework is very much needed He needs either a better firerate or faster projectile speed Heck maybe beef him up to a 300 hp hero If they want to buff the dragons Increase the size just a bit Like it be able to cover the full cart or bot to help him better in certain maps Something to help hem be a better duelist and not just rely one a one shot they are definitely not giving back

[@SSADO-]

Bro an arrow from Hanzo is enough to take down armor hp from all the non tank armor heroes, and basically 2 or 3 from the tank ones. Be happy bruh

[@SSADO-]

@@donovan_salgado I am very glad you don’t work for Blizzard

[@andrewpugliese9927]

You have the only OW-update videos worth watching. Thank you!

[@SpectreAdept]

Since the armor is pretty much just OW1's armor system, do DoTs ignore armor like they did in OW1 or are they affected by the reduction?

[@dallasjhaws]

So winner’s queue has been confirmed checkmate 😎

[@truuskikomo5227]

Nope, “losers queue is preferred to be avoided if possible” queue has been confirmed 😎 But if you are the losers queue you will not notice ;)

[@SuperSarutobisensei]

buffing damage to counteract the positive effect of increased healthpools...

[@CammoNisse]

The tank power creep is truly an overwatch moment. Sig is already really solid on certain maps. I think they overturned ball too. The new armor and knock back will make doom the weakest tank. I’m no one-trick anymore but I don’t believe these changes are healthy for the game. The tanks with the most survivability will benefit while the weaker tanks will struggle harder. Seems like there will a lot of Ram games this season

[@bianglegaming1127]

I'm starting to wonder if there's more to the heal passive buff than "10+max/20", because it feels like Tracer regens about just as fast. I even tried out CactusPuppy's dmg and hp display mode myself, and it has her at like 21 hps

[@sylph4252]

Yoooo, they brought back old armor! Never understood the change, you could achieve the same effect as the set percentahe damage reduction by increasing health. Armor used to be and will again be a fine tool to tweak burst vs sustained damage

[@TheJester423]

Blizzard, please stop buffing ball and laser pointer

[@sideeswipe]

Winston’s secondary fire still only doing 50 damage is insane

[@JV-pt6ht]

How much should it do? I think it’s fine still ignores armor and it obviously isn’t his main source of damage. It’s still pretty effective imo

[@doc-vg9lq]

@@JV-pt6ht its crappy actually

[@JV-pt6ht]

@@doc-vg9lq wouldn’t say that, it does its job.Poke tool before engagements, softening up dive targets, finishing off low enemies who are escaping.

[@rossGrett]

Winston mains rise up

[@shihomonamour]

You're not supposed to be sniping with that shit. & We don't want any aim in our first person shooter. & That's exactly why tank players play tank! 😃

[@ethanfutch4974]

8:30 that makes a lot of sense no wonder I get put on doom one trick once I’m on a winning streak .

[@ukoi9534]

Its plain obvious the balance team looks purely at statistics and call it a day without even considering fixing actual problems. Every rework they recently made did not solve any of the issues with said character, I bet they dont even play test their own heroes against counters.

[@itzjimo]

0:21 Does anyone have the workshop code that has those specific damage numbers? Please and thank you❤

[@brokenfiction999]

Don't u need to buff Reaper Passive if u do this though?

[@grvvy5080]

Watching this in the break room at work so when I get home im all updated lmao

[@synyster1133]

whats the name of the junkrat skin on the 5:08? its very cool

[@JerrytheBonecrusher8500]

Did anyone else notice that all the mythic skins disappeared from the game? I had four of them and I can’t find any of them

[@XxNeonRayxX]

Dam that lucio did junk queen dirty n clean at the same time 😂

[@moth5414]

I just wanna bring to y'alls attention that there are quite a few errors in the spreadsheet btw!

[@Srelathon]

So for next mythbusters: Does the tank critical headshot reduction work on Mauga's critical damage against burning targets?

[@alexerhardt662]

Actually fuming over the Hanzo change, Hanzo now has 1 purpose. Shoot tank. Cool, so fun, so interactive.

[@broadbunny5472]

4 full charge headshots don’t kill hog now as well

[@jajaxaxa]

He is a lot worse at shooting tanks with the headshot damage reduction. I wonder if it's worth it to try to headshot with storm arrows.

[@Super_Black1]

Knockback resistance up from 30% to 50% ***Cries in Brazillian Phonk***

[@guilhermex.9483]

1:52 This also applies to Mauga Passive "headshot on fire" thing, where you can not be aiming in the head but still getting crits?

[@Ya-qr2ke]

Mauga can still headshot you even if you’re on fire for more damage

[@guilhermex.9483]

@@Ya-qr2ke Ok... But that was not my question, the question is, If I'm Mauga, and the enemy Tank is on fire(burning), if i shoot him with Cha-Cha not in the enemy tank head, will the 25% resist to headshot work(since both of them are considered crits)?

[@advikdeshmukh805]

I’m not a fan of the new pressure modifier. I feel like it’ll help bronze players get to gold even if they don’t deserve it which would mean there would be a wide skill gap between actual golds and artificially boosted ones. And for champions, they would essentially be smurfing in low gm lobbies and it’d be harder to hit the rank than it already is

[@themoonsevilsister1561]

after all these years hammond mains are finally eating well

[@qasw1234]

I think they need to remove the negative modifiers from affecting you if someone on your team leaves before the halfway point of the match as at that point the other team has an unfair advantage and losing becomes much more likely(near certainty) regardless of player skill

[@definiteg4909]

Brig is going up the tier list

[@Akura359]

So no changes to not getting banned when you leave a quick play match or backfill match??

[@baamboo6905]

Still no reaper buffs😢

[@itsyuhboycarlos1949]

Lmao he doesn’t need to be buffed

[@Suilujz]

@@itsyuhboycarlos1949 His damage against armor got nerfed by almost 30% here, his ult has sucked major ass since S9 and now they nerf his anti-tank capability. Wtf is his job now? Being a worse torbjörn as anti dive? His best value is below gold where ppl don't know how to play against him lol

[@baamboo6905]

@@Suilujz his damage is also bad, he need to be in enemy face to do something but unlike trace He doesnt have good mobility ability and his steps are too loude. His lifesteal is nerf too by dps passive and his heath doesnt matter because of his massive hitbox. He need rework or massive buffs to be just playble

[@boritroll6423]

Is it me, or these are not tank buffs, but one small buff and like 3 huge nerfs to all tanks? Wasn't buff of tanks the point of midseason update?

[@Yulmatamo]

Where are hanzo's buffs and genji's needed nerfs?

[@Doaboo]

Genji nerf? lol

[@HOTMiSCHiEF1]

Excellent as always

[@Spinworth]

Its 2024 and we still CANT cancel JQ's shout effect (to start the CD sooner). Why is it so difficult Blizzard??

[@ShibaNugget]

A sad day for reaper mains

[@beefwantko7269]

there are reaper mains still lol

[@RubyImeris]

Ayo is anyone else’s mythical missing? When I go to check it’s just gone plus when I go to the shop to unowned skins it says not available.

[@aububub1726]

same here. all my mythics are missing and can't browse mythic shop

[@RubyImeris]

@@aububub1726 hasn’t been a day with this update lol hope we get it back soon I just got my mercy my thing :’(

[@GhostWhatcher]

same here

[@MLL65]

brig need health 350 and more dmg and more sheld , after 250 health she becomes weak, Everyone has more damage and the ability to fight without danger

[@Astralmess]

Change number 324809 that's reverted back to how it was in OW1. lmaooooo

[@ErmacFtw]

what is the workshop he is using?

[@TheRDprod]

The hanzo buff seems more like a nerf, I always saw his ult as a way to make an area inaccessible, now that it’s faster it might no be as useful but that’s just my view on it, I do not play hanzo at all so idk

[@takeachance5881]

It's only a buff when used against a wall that enemy is leaning against, that's the only time where a dragonstrike will even hit anyone properly on its own. Otherwise it's a massive nerf.

[@TM40_AerialAce]

LW mains had so little to start with, and now they take away our flux cancel 😔

[@jwsbruwer1276]

I know😭

[@brettbaron6050]

Why doesn't Sigmas absorb (add) health during his move ?

[@_XRMissie]

Holy, ball got the short end of the armour change tank v tank... But he's going to be a funny hampter living in your backline lol

[@Djitterbug]

His buffs are absolutely crazy and I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets nerfed or even reverted next patch. His boop will chunk and build his ult faster, his mines now one shot tracer, and the movement lockout is going to make it way easier to line up his ult slam combo.

[@_XRMissie]

@@Djitterbug Idk as a ball player, these buffs are things that were sorely needed. Minefield is a joke of an ultimate, second only to doom (my other main, go figure). And no, minefield can't 1 shot tracer still. New minefield damage is 165, tracer is 175 now, not 150. Movement lockout makes no difference with the amount of burst healing and get out of jail free cards, and anyone with more than 0 eyes can see the very obvious telegraphed move every ball main does when deploying minefield. Very easy to counter or even cancel if you're unlucky. All of these changes are just compensation to the horrible state he was in after the s9 changes. His "rework" adds a few more techs but he's still a very low damage tank that requires serious map and hero knowledge to make use of.

[@Djitterbug]

@@_XRMissie Ah yeah, I forgot tracer has 175 health now. I was being exaggerative for sure but I still think it's very strong, and I'm saying that as a ball main too. Minefield is FAR from the second worst ult in the game. It's the best zone control ult in the game, and people aren't always looking around for mines during a teamfight. Whenever I get ball ult I'm always sure I'll get some value out if it, which isn't true for most of the roster. Also sure, kiriko cleanse and movement abilities exist, but they counter everything, not exclusive to ball at all. Movement lockout is still huge. Idrk what "state" you want him to be in. He's always going to be that weird, niche pick that requires you to know the map and hero better than anyone else, his high skill ceiling is his appeal and what makes him fun. If anyone could pick him up and use him, it wouldn't be ball.

[@listlie]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Djitterbug I think the other guy meant second worst tank ult in the game (I personally think it’s the worst one and would say doom’s ult is actually good). Moreover, mines doesn’t rly get much value if u face a high mobility comp which is pretty common in OW2. Personally, I’m usually sure I’ll get value with most other ults so I think it’s just a u issue with how u use them (unless it’s reaper or phara ult)

[@Djitterbug]

@@listlie Ah yeah, mines is certainly on the lower end of tank ults on a tier list, but the trade off is that he’s hes the most hyper mobile AND tankiest hero in the game by default. If he was given more front loaded damage he’d frankly be broken. Also Dooms ult is for sure worse. It’s an outdated leftover ability from his dps assassin days and doesn’t fit his role as a tank at all. Its main purpose is the same as Winston’s, you initiate a dive, commit everything, and ult when you’re in trouble, except Winston’s resets his health to 1000 and creates MORE pressure and space. Doomfists ult literally takes him, the TANK, out of the game. It rarely kills and it’s both conceptually and practically a bad tank ult.

[@loganrmx8479]

I feel like the last point was a massive buff to winning streaks. As if you’re on a winning streak you will now be more likely to be out on the lower winning chance team. This means that if you continue your winning streak you will also get consistent “up hill battle” bonus.

[@inemisisl7777]

It is quite literally the exact opposite; players on loss streaks will be put on the team who is more likely to win, making them more likely to lose, and more likely to stifle someone else’s winning streak.

[@phredbookley183]

The Sigma change is very very welcome. I always thought devs WANTED that LoS problem for him. Glad to hear the news.

Where reaper buffs? ;(

[@disturbedwaffles6653]

Myth: Does the passive regen increase if a hero's maximum base HP increases? (i.e. Nemesis Form, Primal Rage, Rally)

[@the-_-nothing_6399]

They‘re changing Junkrats damage per Shot but genji cant Nano Blade the way it was bc of the Health increase of every Hero

[@contasus9163]

They seriously nerfed hanzo insted of BUFFING him? How they can do that?

[@xxhjgfffhifethxx1863]

So are they going to rework the support passive or something bc at this point it’s not even that much better compared to the other passive healing especially now that tanks heal more, I’m not saying that’s unfair or anything bc the tanks have bigger health pools so it’s fair they get more healing but they also get the headshot and knock back reduction so I hunk the supports need something changed about the passive

[@Metaspace2]

Next planned patch changes: growing the team with a second tank, giving Orissa a shield and damage amplification ult, allowing bastion to siege permanently, buffing Symetra's turret damage.... ;-) The changes in MMR handling actually feel like a potential improvement. I wonder though if searching for a wide range match will still take 20 minutes in the silver-plat range like before

[@justintyler6510]

Tbh i always feel like my hanzo ult moved to slow. Now i can isolate squishy heroes better. I always use it to push up and gey a squishy

[@soster82]

is anyone else's mythic skins broken? im not showing any for anyone right now

[@ZeroGForce]

The Hanzo Dragonstrike "buff" honestly feels like a mixed nerf. Think about it-Hanzo's dragons do 150 damage/sec on the outer rims, and 300 closer to the center. So while they increased its movement speed to better catch people that are loose and running around _(but still won't kill anyone because let's face it, Hanzo ult is kinda sucky when it's not being shot down a narrow corridor or on the payload to block OT progress),_ against stationary enemies, it's actually *_worse_* now. I want to see Dragonstrike vs a regular Hog's 'Take a Breather', with and without the support of an Ana nade, just so I can get a good visual of the change.

[@breath2273]

For some reason 2 out of my 3 first games after the Patch got me in 130 ping Lobbies and i dont understand why

[@amanoyukiteru4713]

All my mythical skins are gone now is this a bug?

[@epoch7661]

Yeah because snipers have been in desperate need of (checks notes) a damage buff against tanks???

[@Son_Ricardo02]

"There are a fair amount of counterplay options to deal with sigma´s ultimate" what about Illari ?

[@quanghuytran6227]

I'm sorry but can anyone tell me what is flat dmg reduction, i dont understand anything about the this change

[@necrosis6037]

Armor reduces incoming damage by -5.

[@gavinator1775]

Ping pong time Also we’re cooked on Hanzo

[@lamarhoward722]

So many bros mad about Hanzo's ult. It takes an entire two seconds to melt most DPS and Support if they're inside the Dragonstrike, making it faster isn't gonna change that. Even when used as a zoning tool to push the opponent off the point in Overtime, the faster Drago still has plenty enough time to scare them off if they don't have an effective counter. But, what do I know, I don't even play DPS, so... 🤷‍♂️

[@Wsuarez111]

Why have they taken out mythic skins on console?

[@az_street_walker4181]

2:27 this play wasn’t due to how strong Lucius boop is the 15% knock back that was there in that clip had saved emong in that instance HOWEVER due to him launching forward the way boop interacts with those types of abilities boops you away and the momentum from said ability gets used against you ie rein charges doom punch and venture all have similar instances just like this junk play now the lucio WAS bopping towards the hole (I think he didn’t think he’d get him in it more so just doing it as displacement) UNLESS he’s a stupid cracked lucio and knows about this interaction with his boop and momentum abilities just had to say some because people are using this clip like it’s heinous activity no it was jqs momentum that did it

[@theninjahobo5393]

appreciate actually just shouting out the author of the spreadsheet and linking in desc. not wasting anyone's time lol

[@aaronfuentes8555]

Okay is it just me or did everyone lost their mythic skins

[@Fujiwaratofudeliveryman]

Me too

[@scubabro8222]

Ok but why did they remove the mythic? I miss my mercy skin

[@BotBoy-un3pz]

RIP reaper, was fun climbing with him while it lasted but looks like he's the worst character in the game now following these changes.