Tanystropheidae: Triassic Weirdosity

[@otherpatrickgill]

Dr Polaris' videos are well-composed, calming and seemlessly presented in a methodical even tone, perfect for battling insomnia on sleeplessness nights. If you don't fall asleep, you'll learn a great deal.

[@horrorfan1697]

You have been extremely helpful, for twenty years I've been cataloging organisms as a hobby, illustrating and documenting they're natural histories, I've got thousands of files. Just last week I was documenting Triassic archosaur groups and realized just how diverse THE RELAtives of tanystropheus were. I had them lumped together under one group with animals like shringasaurus. It's been gnawing at me for a while and I finally was able to diversify these files

[@dr.polaris6423]

Glad I could hellp!

[@itsahostiletakeover]

I always wonder when David Peters went so far off the paleontological rails. I still have a book from my childhood he illustrated from the late 80s called "Gallery of Dinosaurs and Other Early Reptiles" and to this day, that artwork is beautiful and very accurate for the time and even in some ways ahead of the time. Anyway, fantastic video, cheers. 🍻

[@DAVIDPETERS12C]

Thank you for the compliments. See above for my reply to this video.

[@Popebug]

@@DAVIDPETERS12C Nobody sees you as the rebel you think you are, we just kinda pity you.

[@slizzysluzzer]

@@DAVIDPETERS12CYou're a grifter lol, congrats on being another example why the internet's capacity to give everyone a voice was a mistake. PS: Consider AI generating your stuff from now on. Ride the tidal wave of disinfo, brother!

[@NyanCatHerder]

I had no idea until recently that he illustrated "Raptors!", and only chose to portray the titular dinosaurs without feathers because the book's creators demanded it. That was one of my favorite books as a kid. It's disappointing to see that he lost it.

[@SaintNevermore]

seeing the meme of david peters i made years ago made my entire week i didn't know it still existed online LOL.

[@dr.polaris6423]

It was so good that just had to use it!

[@needfoolthings]

14:35 An early microphone. Amazing how similar these things already looked to modern microphonidae.

[@Chalktastic]

I think this every single time I watch one of your videos. You're heavily under appreciated, keep up the great content.

[@leoornstein3963]

Legend says if you are this early, Dr. Polaris would give you a like. Great video.

[@dr.polaris6423]

The legends speak true!

[@VeganV5912]

@@dr.polaris6423 ; Plaque forms because eating meat is plaque 🧟‍♂️🦠🍖.... no other animal does this, no other animal brushes teeth, and they’re fine, no plaque. You’re not supposed to eat animals. Long long stomachs. Little flat teeth 😬. Are used to eat meat. I had plaque, six months dentist. But now I’m vegan, 6 years vegan. No plaque ever !!! I can’t believe it, and fresh and no Plaque. PH is different. Eating animals has no fibre. Five days or more sitting inside your stomach, putrifying. Fibre is plants and fruit and nuts and lentils and sweet potatoes et cetera. Next day poop. No smell. My feet and socks and armpits absolutely clean and fresh. Believe it !!!! Try it for a month you’ll see. Vegan tacos and vegan burritos and vegan curry and vegan anything you want but vegan ✅❤️😬🦷💪🦵... and I gain weight and muscle on a plant-based diet, Full of strength !!!!! Bonobos and Orangutans and Gorillas are plant-based. They never eat meat et cetera. ✅❤️😬🦷💪🐵🦍. They are 99% the same as us... 1% cancer in the wild !!!! We are herbivores. Scientific fact. Long long stomachs. 🐮🔪⛓😢/😵🔴🦠💩🍖🐰..... 👈🤥🤥🤥🤥🤥...... Go vegan ✅❤️😬🦷💪👍..... You can have vegan burgers and vegan pizza and vegan curry and vegan burritos and vegan tacos...... simple !!! At the grocery department or KZbin delicious vegan food. Low price and no murder. Win-win situation ✅🌎👍

[@pelican_3049]

Also plaque is not related to eating meat it is more related to eating sugar

[@pelican_3049]

Also if we weren’t supposed to eat meat why did our ancestors make tools to make hunting easier? We have proof that dental problems are related to fats and a lot of sugar and there are ancient human sculls with perfect teeth even though there diet was probably 30- 50% of there diet was meat

[@VeganV5912]

@@pelican_3049 .. 👈😫🦠💩🍖🥓🍳🍕🍣🥩.. “Everyone is doing it, I’m going to do it because everyone else is doing it. Because I’m scaared. Cult following”. 🤦🏼‍♂️ Normal. I’m vegan. I don’t hurt animals. That’s that ✅👍. It’s normal for me. Everyone else follow the leader 👈😫🦠💩🍖.... .

[@TheZombieburner]

The stuff out of the Triassic always fascinates me. It's so weird and different from anything else we see today, and even relative to other dinosaurs, they seem primitive and alien.

[@dforrest3122]

Lol I've been binging your videos and I never expected to hear you tell someone off like that. And it came out of nowhere. You're videos are somehow even cooler now.

[@mayday6916]

Looking at Tanystropheus, I get the feeling it would have been most practical for it to hunt underwater, since the water would have carried the very long neck and made it lighter. The neck would have been really heavy and required big muscles and tendons to hold it up (like on Diplodocus) which I don't really see on this body.

[@BoozMcGroove]

My only criticism of your videos would be the audio quality leaving quite a bit to be desired, though the editing is solid and your channel (among others that talk about topics like paleontology and speculative evolution) are my absolute favorite things to play in the background while I'm working or relaxing. Keep up the good work my good man

[@dr.polaris6423]

Thanks for the constructive feedback! I’ll have to sort out a better way to record my voice. I think my mic isn’t that great, so I’ll have to get a better one.

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@dr.polaris6423 You're audio isn't bad btw

[@dr.polaris6423]

@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster Thanks!

[@KhanMann66]

Your mic leaves a lot of white noise.

[@garethtudor836]

Given the speculation about Langobardisaurus' ability to run bipedally for short distances, I'm picturing a frill-necked lizard-style dash

[@Titus-as-the-Roman]

Why is Postosuchus always ignored in these Triassic commentaries. Considered here as one of the major Predators of the period. Got up from the sprawling reptile stance, specially it's rear legs putting them under the body, trying to become a Dinosaur but didn't quite get there before their extinction at the Jurassic period. It's like describing the fauna of today's Africa while totally ignoring the Lion.

[@StormiidaeBlogspot]

Thanks for making these. Enjoyable science!

[@julesgosnell9791]

I just learnt a new word - "FAUNIVOROUS" - thx :-)

[@victorabaderamos6019]

Dr. Polaris, I got a question about your speculative project ( actually, it's 4 , so I'll separate them in topics) 1- Are the therezinosaurs extinct by this point ? If so, why? ( if you already explained in another video, I apologize beforehand) 2-Are the hesperornithes and the ichtyornithes going to appear in your project, if so, what futher adaptions to life in the oceans will they develop ? 3- Will the rudists, the belenmites,Ichthyodectidae ,the hybodonts and other ancient marine clades be discussed ? If the rudists are still alive, are they still the dominant reef building organisms on the planet, or were they somehow outcompeted by coral ? 4-Which clades will colonize New Zealand and Antartica ?

[@dr.polaris6423]

Hi there thanks for your interesting questions. Unfortunately the Therizinosaurs are gone and have been replaced by a lineage of large herbivorous Troodontid descendants. In addition, both of those lineages are present and I will cover them in a later video. Rudists are still around but they declined significantly, Belemnites are still doing well, Hybodonts died out at the end of the Eocene and so do the Ichthyodectids. Coral eventually take over as reef builders. Antarctica is home to Pinniped- like Monotremes, flightless descendants of Vegavids and many other sea birds.

[@victorabaderamos6019]

@@dr.polaris6423 R.I.P my Therezinosaur bois ( but what caused their extinction ?). Are you going to show New zealand and its fauna in the future ( will it be colonized predominantly bya avian dinosaurs, like it happened on Earth ?) ?. One more thing, when you wrote " both those lineages", were you referring to the hesperornithes and ichtyornithes ?( ps: So the hybodonts died out in the Eocene, huh ? That's curious, given that they survived in our Earth up to the Late Miocene, if the dating of Miosynechodus's fossils is correct. Is there a reason they died out earlier in AE-alternate earth ?)

[@kennyhagan5781]

Thanks for the heads-up about that guy. Froot-Loops like that make it hard for people to get reliable information. You should be teaching....but being a polar bear no doubt puts more obstacles in your way, professionally that is. Thanks again.

[@myramadd6651]

I could be way out there, but how much time passes between the last tanystrophids, and the first plesiosaurs?

[@dr.polaris6423]

That's a good question! I'll have to look into that but they may have overlapped slightly.

[@terrydoud3154]

I was immediately reminded of plesiosaurs when looking at it.

[@TedShatner10]

What's the lift music for the opening?

[@KhanMann66]

Crash bandicoot games

[@OviraptorFan]

Ah yes, the Tanystropheids...perhaps the family of archosauromorphs reptiles that produced the most weird oddballs in the Triassic. Also...I recognize that type of cryptids.....aw yes! We’re going to Europe baby!

[@dr.polaris6423]

You sure are a perceptive one! We will be dealing with the surprisingly numerous cryptids of my home country: The UK.

[@oyeahtoys]

love the info and illustrations. More credit to the artists would be cool. I think the polar bear graphic interrupts the flow too many times. Its my only critique but youre welcome to it.

[@dennismason3740]

I spent a few hours in Bigfoot's backyard around the year 2000 in San Diego wildlands through which a creek flowed and a great blue heron flew over my head and I heard things, oh yes, and I knew we (my friend Tye and I) were being watched. What a thrill. I'll tell you about it when I can type.

[@samsalamander8147]

This is my favorite dinosaur. I love the whole weirdo clade.

[@raptorzilla0710]

Four years late but tanystrophus isn’t a dinosaur lmao

[@samsalamander8147]

@@raptorzilla0710 Ok, smart guy since you know everything and you want to try to condescend me go ahead what’s it called then?

[@arrowhead8856]

@@samsalamander8147 they’re archosauromorphs

[@etinarcadiaego7424]

@@samsalamander8147 correcting an error is not being condescending. These things weren't dinosaurs, that's a fact. Learn to take criticism.

[@samsalamander8147]

@@etinarcadiaego7424 so the “lmao” wasn’t condescending?

[@JustAnotherRandomGuy-_-]

Can I request a video for Eretmorhipis? I love to know more about them.

[@johnhanover2229]

Just after the weirdness of the Permian period. My state of Colorado, is known more for Jurassic specimens than any other period. Would love to see these Triassic weirdos in person, we probably aren’t going to be close to what they really looked like.

[@MrAxelDietrich]

Sauropod reptile? Nature is so wild

[@joearnold6881]

Could those long necked ones be ancestors of sauropterygians? I’ve seen it argued that the weren’t aquatic because they’re tails are flattened too to bottom, which would preclude side to side motion for swimming the way crocodiles do. However, sauropterygians (e.g. plesiosaurs etc) we’re the one group of aquatic reptiles to move their tails in an up and down motion to swim. That would fit.

[@davidrichard3582]

Damnit Doc--my kids are watching this! ;-)

[@parmaxolotl]

4:10 *SANS*

[@frog_champ]

renowned biologist sans undertale

[@michaelmilbocker4548]

study on microfossils from tucumcari new mexico

[@Spider-Bread]

*The* *Long* *One*

[@dr.polaris6423]

Exactly!

[@isaacthedestroyerofstuped7676]

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[@michaelmilbocker4548]

I have over 50,000 micro fossils that supports this videao

[@rkozakand]

At approximately 7:50 you mentioned what I assumed was an Italian scientist whose name you pronounced as 'De La Veccia'. I could find nothing on this person. I therefore assume that you were mispronouncing 'De La Vecchia' Ch is always hard in Italian. It would be good to put the printed name in the video if you insist on not finding out how to pronounce names, as the English tend to do.

[@seansmith3058]

You need to restrain yourself a bit with the comments, I want to get at least an idea of what these nitwits are saying.

[@dennismason3740]

Impossible animals, eh, mate? Some ran ON water. Never mind the fake paleoze. That guy doesn't need your publicity. Watch birds, everyday, kids, if you want to know dinos. Nice work.

[@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess]

6:09 I had an extreme urge to dislike your video when you started attacking that dude @. It would probably better if you let the viewers decide what they should think ...instead of pushing vendetta's. Kinda brings down the production value and scientific topic tbh. Disappointing behavior

[@Popebug]

David Peters is the biggest troll in paleontology. What do you want people to do, let him be above criticism for some reason? It's not a "vendetta", he's wrong because his theories are divorced from reality. If Peters want to play scientist, he should be under the same scrutiny as a real scientist.

[@xstar9567]

bruh

[@xstar9567]

David Peters is completely wrong and unreliable