Protracted Benzo Withdrawal: Warriors Unite Online

[@nickc.5783]

“This is not regular suffering, this is profound suffering” Thank you for helping others understand

[@BeelyGG]

"The normal amount (of pain) is 0" My mind is still blown on the regular how "effortless" life can be in comparison.

[@TE-7302-]

“The level of missing out is visceral” “The loneliest injury” ❤ I have watched you go through this and my heart is full knowing how much better you are even 4 months after this interview. You are amazing and you have worked so hard.

[@TE-7302-]

Not everyone has a caregiver. David is a gift.

[@kassi4837]

"You need people but you can't be with people " felt that. So true.

[@nefelibata4190]

I don't really have any very safe ppl around me, so if I ever get this im likely just gonna have the community..

[@kassi4837]

@ that's why Community is so important!

[@Jivansings]

In 2018 I moved to LA from NYC and suddenly lost all medical/therapy support. I knew nothing about the dangers of Clonepin withdrawal. The next 6 months I experienced relentless anguish and found myself begging God to take me out of this world. If only I had people like you and your guests to help me understand what was happening.

[@incognito595]

I am so sad to read your story. That is EXACTLY WHAT THEY HAVE INFLICTED UPON MILLIONS OF OTHERS. YOUR STORY IS PRECISELY THE SAME.THEY KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO YOU. YOU DESERVE TO KNOW THAT. SUE THEM ALL. AT THE VERY LEAST, REPORT THEM TO THE STATE MEDICAL BOARD. EACH STATE HAS ONE. IF ENOUGH PEOPLE DO THAT, WE CAN BRING THIS SADISM TO AN END. BASTARDS. THEY KNEW. DON'T FALL FOR THE LINE THAT "THEY DIDN'T KNOW." THEY DID.

[@Q1776Q]

What is so maddening to me is... Several doctors told me... the ONLY reason you are having severe withdrawal symptoms is because you are looking for them online...The said if you stop looking online the symptoms will go away.... I'm still so upset that absolutely no one believed me for about 3 years of nonstop hell.

[@nickc.5783]

I’m upset too. There will be a type of reckoning for medical institutions and big pharmaceutical business about the truth of what these medications can do. Ignorance is one thing, but these types of reactions have been known about for decades, and there’s still no precautions. There’s a lot of good doctors, but medical practice being driven by incentives and profit is bad and leads a lot of medicine down a bad path.

[@victorial8764]

Idiots ❤

[@Q1776Q]

@@nickc.5783 Well..I don't know, This happened to me about 9 years ago..and everyone I know still thinks I had some type of 3 year mental episode. A HUGE problem is..I personally know 7 people that were all on various benzos from between about 1 and over 20 years... every one of them stopped cold turkey...and only 1 girl said she felt sunny for about a week.... So of course no one believed me. I also personally know a doctor who said I was the first person he had ever heard of with a problem stopping a benzo..he said he has been prescribing them for over 30 years... so I just don't know what to think any more

[@kathryn7739]

Shaking my head at these doctors… it is not all made up in your head. They don’t want any accountability at all

[@drunkensquirrel7545]

Classic medical gaslighting.

[@PeterYost]

Words cannot describe how we suffer through this. There are no words that capture the extraordinary pain, fear, noise, sleeplessness, paranoia, hopelessness and many other excruciating symptoms.

[@markpilon744]

I am proud to work with this wonderful human being. A true warrior in every sense of the word. Thank you for this.

[@victorial8764]

Thank you for your encouragement. Your pain has helped me today. ❤ and you are so blessed to have your partner. Not all men recognize how beautiful you truly are inside and stays by your side.

[@McStorch0]

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope this all works out for you with the new meds. Akathisia is beyond anything a human can imagine unless they’ve experienced it.

[@CorneliusSpivey]

Grateful for this Shit Storm! I will never take my Health for granted again 💜💪☮️

[@elizabethhauser4395]

What brought me home about this video is the love and compassion that is felt for another human being. The emotional and physical pain are inhumane and I will never belittle them but the inner, deepest feelings of humility and grace are what’s so overpowering. Being a warrior myself, the need for me remaining in this place is essential.

[@connieclanton9802]

Thank you for sharing your story. I was on a low dose for 5 years, I also suffered terrible withdrawal , Its been 19 months since I took my last dose. Finally able to live a beautiful life. Keep up the good work. We are warrior's. We do recover ❤️🙏❤️

[@shan4145]

This is what you call in love ! Through the dystopian abyss; vows through sickness and in health… I love them both! Exceptional compassionate people’s! Makes me have faith that there are a lot of exceptional good hearted people still out there helping us sufferers on our knees . Thank you to all three of you ANGELS 🦋

[@jeanphillips1184]

No truer words ... I WAS TRYING TO STAY ALIVE Bless you. If a person hasn't been through this it probably sounds nuts but of you have been through this her descriptions are SPOT ON !!!!!

[@tash98101]

Wendy Jo, you are an amazing person. Thank you so much for doing this interview from Dr. Josef!

[@bethgra2007]

Thank you, Wendy ❤ Our stories are very similar and I deeply admire your advocacy for us all

[@newkingdom6750]

She's right.. having a "high tolerance to pain" will do you no good on this journey. These symptoms are "other worldly" :/

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

Its almost like there supernatural. Demonic.

[@835Shark]

Thank you for the validation on SO many levels and support. This has been a horrifying journey and a few glimmers of hope will keep us going.

[@Jay_kay_bee]

There is nothing worse than benzo withdrawal. Doctors need to know this.

[@incognito595]

@@Jay_kay_bee THEY ALREADY KNOW. YOU DESERVE TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT! WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU THIS.

[@Jay_kay_bee]

@@incognito595what? Is that how they taught you to type in med school?

[@Jay_kay_bee]

@@incognito595there is not a good protocol for people in withdrawals. It is horrible. Opiate withdrawal is easy compared. Please start educating your peers if you know the way.

[@Jay_kay_bee]

@@incognito595

[@afol4016]

THEY HAVE KNOWN FOR MORE THAN 60 YEARS. YOU HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION!!!

[@leslieleslie5849]

Very similar story to what my husband and I are going through right now! thank you for sharing! It helps to know there is light at the end of this hell.

[@incognito595]

You see, when this started, 60 YEARS AGO, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE INTERNET. THEY THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET AWAY WITH IT FOREVER, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T FORESEE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO SHARE THESE STORIES AMONG OURSELVES. DO YOU UNDERSTAND, NOW, HOW THEY HAVE GOTTEN AWAY WITH THIS FOR SO LONG?

[@jbwetzstein]

The feeling of having to get out of your body because the symptoms are just too intense and torturous describes escaping from benzo dependence, withdrawal, and injury well. And once the SI starts, it feels like the only option. It is truly awful.

[@Martinez1983]

So glad you are doing better Wendy ❤🙏🏻

[@tostonbuilding7093]

I have been prescribed alprazolam for over 16 years and has ruined my life. You have made it clear to me everything no one ever warned me, all the doctors, rehabs, emergency rooms and, shrinks. I am still trying to overcome the damage it did to me. THANKS FOR EVERYTHING

[@tostonbuilding7093]

More than any doctor, phycologist, shrink or any other physician should be able to. Especially not knowing how it affects the brain long term or just not knowing how much to give, for how long, and not keeping the patient accountable with checking in frequently. Only providing a few days' worth at a time...not 60 .10 a month.

[@sandrahbradley1511]

Hang in there it does take (Time) it will get better.💜

[@tostonbuilding7093]

@sandrahbradley1511 HI Sandra Bradley 1511, thank you very much for the reply and the kind thoughts. I HAVE COMMENTED ON ANYTHING ON KZbin, SO GETTING A KIND REPLY WAS SO THOUGHTFUL...I AM RATHER SPEECHLESS. I DOING PRETTY WELL, BUT THERE MOMENTS (AS YOU KNOW AND EXPERIENCED) THAT WAS PARALYZING. HOPE ALL IS WELL WITH YOU AND REALLY HOPE TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU. QUESTION: WHICH OF THE VIDEOS I SAW ARE YOU, SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE. JUST WANT TO PUT A FACE TO YOU. BRETT

[@sandrahbradley1511]

@@tostonbuilding7093 👍 I wasn't on a video, these chats show up on my YT page and I send a comment of inspiration to those going through this 💩 shiiit it's truly how I made it through my days going through it and still does.

[@jenniferbryn]

The story is rarely told because we that are able to tell our stories are few. ❤ I'm 5 years out from a series of events. My current reality is not a gift, it's a miracle.

[@christopherking5266]

this is one of the most well articulated and insightful and powerful interviews yet.

[@kyra5067]

It’s great to see you sharing your story Wendy! All the best to you and your boo 🫶

[@TheAjmos]

There is no excuse for doctors to be blind to this for all these years.

[@ajax700]

they have no trouble believing pharma lies, but never believe the patients, how convenient for this crooked medical system to work

[@kathryn7739]

I don’t know how the psychiatry field can carry on, especially with polypharmacy and iatrogenic effects happening. These “professionals” believe in their own professions. They are propagating lies to society. It should be shut down.

[@materiais10]

​@@kathryn7739it has to happen to one of them for them to do something about it, millions for intensive research would be spent to find ways to reverse the damage

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

​@@materiais10there is no way to reverse this type of damage. It's a nierologicsl an brain damage. There not smart enough to figure it out. Just like glaucoma can't be reversed. Only time can heal this.

[@afol4016]

MONEY CORRUPTS. A LOT OF MONEY CORRUPTS A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR OVER 60 YEARS.

[@warrencraig6258]

Well done 👏 There is no understanding this pain, never ending with no minimum support. So thank you for what you doing both of you 🎉 Month 13 cold turkey withdrawal for me paxil 20mg and klonopin 2-4mg .

[@annaskinner7187]

OMG!!!

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

We all need to get honest about this> I have been off 3 years and I am not better than when I was tapering. I am a shell of who I once was. I cannot function, drive, barely make it through my small daily tasks, simple tasks. Also have agorophobia and physical pain and vision issues, balance issues. And the anxiety is off the charts. The anxiety does not go away once off.

[@incognito595]

JUST KEEP GOING. ME, TOO.

[@nataliesoncini6941]

@Pattycakes-hc4pm Who Is we all? This Is your experience. Not everyone

[@christinemclatchie]

@@nataliesoncini6941 Well you must be the minority, and for that you are very blessed 🙏

[@nataliesoncini6941]

Do you truly believe nobody heals? You think we all stay like this for ever? Im confused. There are many stories of healing ​@christinemclatchie

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

@@nataliesoncini6941 Lol...this stuff causes brain damage , irreversible. Read the studies.

[@KStone47424]

There should be fully trained free support for everyone injured.

[@nickc.5783]

That would be a blessing

[@wil-d1f]

Injury can be for life and very painful and deforming

[@MrPeterISABELLA]

They need hospital for a year

[@incognito595]

​@@wil-d1f YES. CRIMINALS.THEY ALL ALL ALL KNEW.

[@jbwetzstein]

Thanks for sharing your story, Wendy Jo!

[@akalucinda8821]

It's wonderful to see that she's still with her husband I'm facing 7 years now protracted and it's very hard on a relationship

[@PenneyJones2911]

Thank you Wendy Jo. You help so many of us who are trying to heal, and we love you.

[@pattiyoung4048]

I cant do this Im 72 bedridden 4 years suffering horrifically tolerance. My mind my body so severe, Im alone lost all hope , will never be free daily💔😭

[@Waves353]

💕💕💕4 years here too Also alone

[@MaxPower-grrl]

Thank you Wendy Jo and David

[@leannac2743]

Oh & also I just want to say that eating a heavy meat based diet really helped my brain to heal. Red meat is loaded with the amino acids & nutrients that our bodies need to heal. Please look into that!

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

Don't vote kamala. She'll take red meat away.

[@musiclover60302]

Excellent. Nobody ever talks about what people should be eating. Certainly not doctors! I went to a psychiatrist for 18 years. He NEVER asked me what I ate. Saturated fat is good as well.

[@smooth_pursuit]

@@musiclover60302animal fats build the myelin sheath on the nerves!

[@kristylynn1329]

Thank you 🙏 “Enjoy the strawberry!!” ❤

[@shan4145]

So inhumane! I was wondering if you are able to do a video about venlafaxine? Thank you for saving lives and for these invaluable videos with peoples experiences with these drugs farma meds that cause iatrogenic harm

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

Benzo withdrawal makes you feel like you have a broken heart.

[@nyx3967]

Broken heart, broken brain, broken body and a broken soul, it's all broken 😢

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

@@nyx3967 hey you hanging in there?

[@nyx3967]

​@@dustygatrell-ru7tgI'm not getting notifications so just saw this. I'm feeling so very, very bad at the moment, not sure if I can survive this 😢 Thank you so much for asking, means a lot 🙏🏻🕊️

[@incognito595]

​@@nyx3967KEEP GOING. BELIEVE IN YOURSELF. HAVE COMPASSION FOR YOURSELF, LIKE THOSE "DOCTORS" *NEVER* HAD FOR YOU, OR US.

[@Only1Megs]

Wendy, yay, I love you so much!!!! Thanks for doing this for all of us. Its a pleasure to know you. #benzowarriorsunite

[@juliehatton1961]

Hey you two! Thanks for sharing 🥰.

[@MrSlimething]

I'm going on 5 years with protracted withdrawal, spent a total of 3 months in hospitals beginning on Dec 26, 2019. I still have issues to this day. It was hell for the first 3-4 years; had every imaginable symptom listed in the Ashton manual and more, then tried multiple things to get relief including ketamine, acupuncture, hypnosis, psychotherapy, prayer, partial hospital, checked myself in to psych wards twice. LED light therapy etc. Nothing helped and no doctor understood what was wrong. 15-20+ doctors!

[@nefelibata4190]

how often do you have it and how long where you on meds and which ones?

[@MarciaJohanson]

This is a severe withdrawal symptoms and it is amazing that this has to happens to people. It is very dangerous how this drugs are so insidious little by little grabbing a person and damaging the brain.

[@sandrahbradley1511]

Akathesia is being on the edge of suicide.😭😖

[@deedeew4040]

I just jumped off Lorazepam 24 days after 13 years. Yuck! Thank you for sharing.

[@abidshiek]

How many mg of lorazapam you been on for 13 year's,whats your current withdrawal symptoms

[@Q1776Q]

11 years!!! My god... I was having severe interdose withdrawal after about 1 week.

[@angelsinmo]

Same here

[@yalna3140]

I was having withdrawals! After only 1 week of Ativan!!

[@3lfruler]

​@@yalna3140 Wow, that's crazy even the doctors supposed to tell the patient it's only supposed to be taken 4 to 6 weeks while a long-term antidepressant is kicking in. Having effects after a week is crazy.

[@Q1776Q]

@@yalna3140 YES...that is what I took!

[@Eva-rp9ix]

I with I could feel a tiny bit of hope, but I have never felt more alone and clueless of what’s happening in my whole life. I can’t even take care of my dog and the more physical active I am, the worse everything gets. I don’t know what’s real, psycotic, PTSD or if I took the red pill in Matrix and the whole world changed. I feel like the world has become something of a Lovecraftian story and nobody can understand me or should want to be with me anymore. I loafe the person I have become, but I can’t remember who I was either, because it’s all fragments and has anything I’ve Done ever mattered?

[@staceyseymour9297]

I can relate to you feeling alone. This is a living nightmare. It boggles the mind how much damage psychiatric meds can cause. I believe you will improve but it will most likely take some time. Try to focus on just getting through this hour. You'll return to "yourself" eventually.

[@nyx3967]

​@@staceyseymour9297it's more like just getting through the next 5 seconds 😢 🕊️

[@staceyseymour9297]

@@nyx3967 I understand. I've been there before. I have improved greatly but each day is still a struggle. Please keep surviving 5 seconds at a time.

[@connieclanton9802]

@@Eva-rp9ix Sending prayers 🙏🙏

[@afol4016]

Just Keep Going. It will take a lot longer than you want. keep going. Never go back, no matter what.

[@GuovannaLee]

What a remarkable lady. Her strength and the way she looks at her situation is a gift

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

She needs to stop deleting and censoring comments in her group- THAT is not ok or helpful. She also needs to lose her purple hair.

[@karinkellum3054]

Thank You Wendy !!!

[@001sequoia]

I'm a 20 year 3mg a day Xanax addict. I've cut from 3 to 1. 5mg a day in 3 weeks.. Went straight from 3 to 2mg by just skipping a dose.. now I'm taking .5 in AM and 1 @ night.... Not suffering nearly as bad as expected this time. So far no seizures mania or otherwise...

[@Acetyl53]

Yes, torture is the correct word, I would say. It's not experienced as diffuse anguish, eventually you start see it as though you're going up against something unseen, the veil of the mind and sensory reality itself. It's punishing you, it's tormenting you. And then you say what if it's all just me, all of this is my mind, I chose this somehow, wanted this, keep it this way deliberately on an unconscious level. It's essentially a torture and deprivation based conditioning scheme. It dissolves the glue that binds the part sof the mind, things are shelved over and over, you're whittled down, devoured, until there's nothing left but the bare minimum cobbled together intoa shell personality meant to look believeable and imbued with what is required to maintain functionality and protect the physical body. I created something that could continue through anything with almost nothing, and left it in my place.

[@GabesTrails]

Thank you Wendy Jo!

[@leannac2743]

Bless you Wendy & David! I, too, tapered off of a Benzo. I've been off 2 yrs this month. So much of what you described were my experiences as well. Keep going! Your brain WILL get better. I, just this month, been able to incorporate Magnesium Glycinate back into my life! I'm so grateful.

[@akalucinda8821]

Ty ❤

[@DavidJones-ib3zy]

IMO Getting into 'groups' can be a good and bad thing . Seeing the symptoms & horror stories can ( IMO) give people something to expect to happen . Better off not knowing sometimes . ??? Everyone is different as we all know by now . Hope she get's & stays better,

[@claireh.7605]

Problem with the groups is you have two brains and you can shift into the damaged brain and avoid positive feelings experiences and interaction; the bad damage is real but seeking it out and diving into it more than you have to is also real.

[@mfdoom9437]

@@claireh.7605100%. When in benzo withdrawal it’s literally impossible to not get scared by the horror stories, or filter out all the bullshit fear mongering misinformation on there. (EG diet, they’ll tell you not to eat ANYTHING)

[@tearfulxsoul]

I’m so scared right now. I’ve been told I’m not allowed to continue therapy for BPD unless I come off Xanax and start the taper in the next 6 weeks. I’m screwed. This is not what I wanted to happen and I’m terrified

[@michelebergman4336]

DONT LET ANYONE FORCE U TO TAPER OF XANAX!!!!! It causes TOTAL BRAIN DAMAGE & TERROR & suicide!!!! Drop the BPD therapy & go somewhere else

[@abidshiek]

Stick with it, xanax is your life buddy now,

[@christinemclatchie]

@@tearfulxsoul How are you doing? Hoping that you’re ok 🙏

[@JLYNNSINGH]

Dr Josef, you are an angel, telling people about this hell. You and your wife are angels , I was aa 35 year old mother so independent .Now im being abused to just get a a zolnox benzo and a sleeping pill., Woman must never give up their independence. The same story ,i am a personal trainer and studied sports nutrition when a Dr didn't told l me what he was giving me .I am praying for everyone who is going through this .Im so glad someone loves and appreciates their wife so much to stand by them without abuse .

[@stevenwilliams5849]

I did a long taper it took me 1yr half to get off antidepressant...! And once I got off completely I was still going through withdrawal symptoms 1 whole after wards in physical and mental pain . Then I hit rough patch of depression anxiety then went into ackthehian was pretty scary place and I just went back on my medication I well not do that again had pain full brain zaps didnt sleep for 6 weeks because it took 6 weeks before the meds to kick in again gee couldnt concentrate on anything was bedridden had vertigo ...... had agroa phobia wouldn't leave house wouldn't eat anything . I JUST WENT BACK ON THE ANTIDEPRESSANTS GEE i wont do that again thats just me saying and my opinon . AT LEAST I TRIED TO GET OFF OF MEDS BUT IS TRULY HARD . I heard stories off ppl being off there meds for 3 years and they still are getting withdrawal symptoms. ❤

[@mazymonroe8749]

I'm off my SSRI for 20 months and don't know how much longer I can stand these debilitating symptoms. I took them long term but wish I'd never come off , as this life now, is hellish!

[@dave91863]

I reinstated to 50mg sertaline after a month of withdrawl the fear and depression was to intense i couldnt leave my own home, and then the constant brainzaps and vertigo, withdrawl is hell

[@lonefaolan6042]

Don’t take psychotropic drugs unless it’s very short term and seriously weigh your options before even doing that.

[@jasonsenator6144]

ha yeah got terminated off 6mg clonazapam and 80mg methadon. got the letter on day of my sister's wedding. it's not a good situation 6 years later. Hopefully, I'm getting better now

[@sandrarivas9889]

Benzo Warriors!!❤️‍🩹

[@brunosantospereira4459]

Meaning: don't trust everything that doctors say...

[@lonefaolan6042]

💯💯💯

[@incognito595]

DON'T TRUST ANYTHING ANY DOCTOR SAYS, WITH A FEW RARE EXCEPTIONS, LIKE DR. JOSEF WITT-DOERRING ,HERE.

[@incognito595]

​​@@lonefaolan604250,000+"likes!"

[@incognito595]

ME: "DON'T TRUST *ANYTHING* DOCTOR'S SAY, OR *DON'T* SAY."

[@carwashgirl3541]

Amanita Muscaria and kava kava has been a miracle for me!!!

[@sendalisrondansalazar6079]

❤❤❤❤❤😊

[@Mnichols374]

I need a doctor badly i cant function its way to much. Is reinstating at 10 months off at a low dose possible.

[@nickc.5783]

Hey Matt, I’m sorry you’re going through this too, you’re not alone and also very strong. Not sure what your benzo history is, but it could make sense to do a quick consult with an online akathisia consultant that does it specifically for akathisia about how to find a doctor to help. Or maybe online forums can help too, but I’m not familiar with either. Time heals this, and I’ve personally decided it’s ok to be unwell. I unloaded as many of my obligations as possible to help simplify everything.

[@sandrahbradley1511]

Yes (Time).

[@incognito595]

YOU WILL NEVER RECOVER UNTIL YOU STOP. IF YOU GO BACK, IT WILL NEVER END. EVER.

[@robinplante9560]

I’m currently tapering a benzo after 30 years. I’m micro water tapering. The withdrawals when I am finally off scare me.

[@pauldesrochers418]

I need help. I need to talk to soneone

[@bubbles-triumphs]

@pauldesrochers, have you found someone to talk to or some sort of support?

[@nefelibata4190]

it's so frustrating how medical professionals are so uneducated and oblivious to this

[@nyx3967]

I had to go to A&E (ER) last week (beyond traumatising) and the doctor I FINALLY saw had never heard of Professor Heather Ashton or the Ashton Manual. He was probably about 30. So it's not getting any better 😢

[@jeffkalo4831]

I commented on here before. I even messaged doctor Joseph. Here is a tragic story me, 8 mg of klonopin for 2 decades so medicated I killed all 4 of my limbs 3 years of complete hell, all alone family thought I went crazy, they still will not talk to me, stopped 8 mg from share will power, So doctor Joseph what do you consider tragic, been of 1 yea and a half. The doctors had me so Medicated I just found out there was Amazon last year. It feels like I came out of a coma after 20 years. Wrecked my car 4 times in one year doing this with no help. Doctor said I could never come off I did. Now I can’t drive for 5 years can’t afford insurance over $1500 a month. Oh and the Va did this to a combat vet. Plus I stopped their stupid antipsychotic and gabapentin, Tragic motivational.

[@thatderangedbunny]

Thank you for your service 🙏 You are in my thoughts ❤️

[@michelebergman4336]

The minute u try to taper off the gabapentin or Mirtazipine..the NIGHTMARE will all come back again because your Mind & nervous system is RUINED

[@sandrarivas9889]

Wendy Jo is amazing!!! 💝💝

[@donquihote6023]

Not just Benzos.

[@ShawnRKA]

Dr wittdoring, interview me next. My story is wild and includes S attempts. Now im bedridden permanently...sadly.

[@incognito595]

Keep going. It's not permanent, although it might feel that way.

[@meganchandler9078]

I apologize if this is a dumb question, but why aren't people prescribed opiates for the pain? Is that just off the table, or does it make things worse?

[@Q1776Q]

IT IS SO MUCH MORE THAN PAIN...That is basically the least of it...Drugs ARE NOT THE ANSWER.. The mental suffering and lack of sleep for years without letup is beyond what many people can handle. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that helps but T I M E. Unless someone has gone through it and survived...there are literally no words to describe how bad it is.

[@materiais10]

Once injured by benzos some people cant take any med or supplement at all as it makes everything a lot worse

[@nickc.5783]

Not a dumb question. Once someone gets this adverse reaction, our nervous systems are basically temporarily compromised and become very sensitive to any changes. A lot of drugs can unfortunately make it worse, and time is the major healer.

[@sandrahbradley1511]

Yes (TIME).

[@dustygatrell-ru7tg]

​@@nickc.5783time. An exorsize can help alot over time of you stick with if. If yiu can do handle it.

[@ajax700]

All my comments are beign shadowbanned, i despise this platform.

[@vickimanager]

I can see your comment.

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

Was or is she on pain meds now? And is she off the benzo?

[@TE-7302-]

She is off the benzos.

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

@@TE-7302- I doubt it

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

wendy needs to start being more honest in the group she admins and stop deleting comments and questions that she does not know or want to answer. Stop the cancel-culture, wendy. shame on you

[@TE-7302-]

I’ve seen WJ on her group. She is completely transparent and up front about taking a small amount of non-benzodiazepine meds since jumping. She is selfless and honest and hated having to take a small amount to stay alive. She has never lied about this.

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

@@TE-7302- yah, i'll just bet it is "non benzos". She needs to be honest.

[@denisejones1279]

Pain where?

[@KStone47424]

Who is Chris Page?

[@nickc.5783]

He does consultations for akathisia, and is a withdrawal survivor himself. Dr. Josef did an interview with him too if you’re interested in hearing is experience.

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

Don't bother with him, he is not even off the meds yet.

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

@@nickc.5783 He's not even off the meds yet. So he has no buisness "coaching". seriously

[@TE-7302-]

@@Pattycakes-hc4pmyou’re obviously in a lot of pain. I think these people would understand whatever you’re going through. If it’s a choice between life and death, these people finally chose life. Trust me, death was the only choice in their minds if they tried to stay off. They are not on high doses and are both aware that they will get off someday. CP is on a low dose of sero and tapering.

[@ozzy.....7383]

Beer the cause of and solution to all life’s problems

[@Q1776Q]

You are a fool.

[@Khrystal-wl6kz]

Funny how the DEA won't go after alcohol

[@christinemclatchie]

@@ozzy.....7383 So very true from what I’ve observed

[@pamela9270]

A benzo commune. How wonderful that would be. This is such a lonely suffering. You can't explain a place to someone that you've never experienced before. On a lighter note. I hope you two have a joyous happy life together. 🩷

[@adamlocastro2224]

Im happy for your recovery. I am going through the same thing . But what doesn't make sense is how B.I.ND. isn't considered an injury disability. I went to my neurologist and he said he has never of it. We need to spread the word about how horrific this . Especially since your only suppose to be prescribed benzos for a max of a month I don't understand. Big pharma has grip

[@Pattycakes-hc4pm]

the word BIND is a made up word in the Harm community. REAL doctors out there in real life have never heard of it. It's not a real thing.