Non-fluted bolt is interesting. Kudos to both you and Ruger. Obviously Ruger provided you with the gun. I assume that they are paying you as well. Most companies today would shut you down regarding that hammer/bolt engagement issue, insisting that they be allowed to fix it and that you not mention it. Many reviewers would happily go along with that. You chose to show us the problem. Ruger chose to allow you to show us *and* committed to fixing it. That is unfortunately rare in today’s world of manipulated messaging, and I thank you both.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your comment! And thank you! But Ruger is not paying me at all. But I will say this, they do expect an honest review. That said, this was one of the hardest videos to make. I knew I had to report what I saw and at the same time and not lead people to incendiary conclusions.
@chipsterb49462 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite YouScrewed won’t let me edit my comment. Obviously my assumption that you were being paid was wrong. Nevertheless, you and Ruger both deserve compliments in a world where the UN tells Google how to sort search results regarding climate change. You handled a touchy situation very well IMHO, and based on my own experiences with Ruger I’m confident that they will fix that issue. I will add that I was all set to buy one of these Guide Guns but now will wait a bit …
@rowdybroomstick63942 жыл бұрын
I waited until late in the of 2017 to buy my Remington made Marlin because earlier edition's had everything from poor function to fit and finish issues and finally they got them all corrected and mine has worked flawlessly and is a tack driver.
@cyrusbaker62292 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I think so as well. Gun companies in today's world wants to keep these older brands, as well as their own, in completely and increasingly anti-gun political world we live in. I did wonder if you requested a model that would be photographed as detailed as you did and they sent you a better than average specimen. What you photographed is a better than average speciment of a factory model of anything. If that is standard for Marlin now my appreciation for them to continue to take criticism that is a great thing.
@t44e62 жыл бұрын
As TS stated in his reply, most content creators who are supplied products to review are not directly paid. However, many who are not as ethical will choose to ignore flaws in order to keep getting more samples.
@williambaker44172 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, Ruger resurrecting Marlin was the best firearms news in years.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more!
@chrisc26712 жыл бұрын
I’m from Australia, I don’t know if we were getting sent the shit examples of the Remington made models or not but honestly, without any exaggeration every single one I picked up in any gun shop was disgraceful. Every single one. They all had something very wrong with it. The most common thing was surface rust. Rust in a brand new rifle, it made me think they weren’t blueing the metal or something. Plus they had an annoying QR code on the action etc. Just a heap of shit. I don’t think we should have been too surprised though. Remington rifles were garbage too. I remember when I wanted to buy my first gun, I read in gun magazines about the Remington 700 Sendero with the fluted barrel. I saw one in my local gun shop, I was so excited. I asked to have a look at it but when he handed it to me, I looked down the outside of the barrel and saw the flutes were all wonky. It made me sick. I have it back to him in disgust and bought a Sako. I’ve only got one Ruger, a Ruger No. 1, it’s a well made rifle so I’m not suprised they are making good marlins. 👍
@tylermallory25042 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, I got one of the first 4000 trappers and absolutely love it.
@hoffmiermp2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that, love my new trapper. I put the comet muzzle brake on mine and male shooting the nasty heavy hard cast extremely manageable. I've been waiting for years to get one and didn't want a remlin.
@ridgerunner33642 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@samrock76322 жыл бұрын
Marlin design and Ruger quality, how can you go wrong, and thanks Ruger for saving our beloved Marlin
@70selvisfan2 жыл бұрын
I really can't wait for the 1894's to get back in production! But, I must say, the wood on that Guide Gun was gorgeous! Also, I like that they're making them with 6+1 capacity like the 336's, instead of the 4+1.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@terrywagner75512 жыл бұрын
I too hope Ruger brings back the 1894’s , maybe even a Limited Run in 41 mag !
@wayneg56972 жыл бұрын
I could go for a .357 one for plinking fun
@iLuv2sixty92 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping that they bring back the 1894 dark series
@chipsterb49462 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere recently that Ruger can’t compete with Henry in the market segment where an 1894 fits. After looking at some Henry lever guns yesterday and talking with a manager at a store that sells a LOT of guns, I’m certain that there’s still a market for a Marlin 1894 with Ruger quality. Winchester/Miroku 1892s sell fast and sometimes for stupid money. The price point does need to be around $1,000 though and that may be tough.
@soldieron99652 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new channel, and because he’s a retired mechanical engineer with a lot of time of his hands, I bet the content is going to be fire!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ikocher2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for Ruger to bring back the 336 in 30-30 but I really hope they make a version just like the Guide Gun. That finish and wood styling but with the threaded barrel! I'm ready to buy!
@Highgear1452 жыл бұрын
The 336 35 Remington and 30-30 are next
@anthonysurrency71342 жыл бұрын
Id love a non-microgroove 336
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
@iKocher That would be sweet!
@anthonysurrency71342 жыл бұрын
@Timothy Mckee not with cast
@blackie1of42 жыл бұрын
According to the website.. the 30-30 and the 35 Remington are next. Both having the same nutmeg laminate stock as you see in this video. I personally am waiting for the 35 Remington :)
@jasonmiller6371 Жыл бұрын
My dad bought a Marlin 1895 in their later years before going bust. He kept it in the box and never shot it. When he passed my brother inherited it, but he found it won't even chamber the cartridges! It's no wonder Marlin went out of business. I'm glad Ruger is making quality Marlin guns again.
@michaelmccamish40082 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of shooting my level guns. Can’t wait for the 1894 to come out.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Likewise! Can't wait!
@TonyYarusso2 жыл бұрын
I’m very curious to see whether Ruger will release any factory takedown rifles in revolver cartridges like .357 Magnum. Marlins were a common choice for aftermarket takedown conversions, so you’d think they could…
@fredericrike59742 жыл бұрын
Six years of college and who knows how much post grad, twenty plus years at a career building other people's bits and bobs and it all came down to a hominy blowout! Awesome! Fr
@davidlaney82542 жыл бұрын
Good catch on the bolt remaining in contact with the top of the hammer. It made me check my Henry, Winchester, and earlier Marlin lever actions to see if they had the proper fit. No issues with any of them. I'm sure the folks at Ruger will take note and sharpen their production standards.
@seresamgala81252 жыл бұрын
I was especially excited about Marlin's 1897 Cowboy octagonal barrel 45-75 GOVT offering, and the one offered in .357. I was so disappointed when they folded up shop and I had inadvertently missed the boat. I sure hope that Ruger makes some improvements and slowly brings those back; there is no design better than Marlin's lever actions!
@EnvirotekCleaningSystems2 жыл бұрын
My favorite feature on the new Ruger Marlins is the curved stock grip vs the straight grip. The straight grip and the small lever makes for a painful day at the range if you are shooting factory heavy loads.😀
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the style of the straight grip and have several rifles in that configuration. But you are spot on. With heavy recoil you have to mind your grip or feel the consequences😉
@daviddejong1872 жыл бұрын
I have a straight stock and have no problems withit
@chairzombie83782 жыл бұрын
I like both! I have a pistol grip 336 and a straight-stock 1895G and both are great rifles.
@daviddejong1872 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite I also have both on my lever guns. I also prefer the straight stocl-history thing probably I remember when I got my first straight stock I didn't think I would like it but found out I did! But at the same time I don't shoot a whole lot of heavy recoiling rounds when I go out.
@afridgetoofar18182 жыл бұрын
I have many lever action rifles, and a vast majority have straight stocks. I much prefer straight stocks for both look and feel.
@searchingfor6thgear442 жыл бұрын
I love my .45-70. It's basically the only gun I carry in the woods, now. Thanks for this
@TheRedRocket2 жыл бұрын
That's good shooting, George! Those are both nice rifles. My own Marlin 1895 Guide Gun is chambered for the .450 Marlin. It's got a "JM" stamped barrel. I replaced the standard squarish lever with a big lever from Brownells, as the smaller lever used to hit my knuckles whenever I shot it. I hope Ruger starts making the 1895 in .450 Marlin again. Thank you for another good video!
@TheRedRocket2 жыл бұрын
@black bear I own them both. The .450 is more powerful in factory loadings.
@DavidTrainmore2 жыл бұрын
I called Marlin, asked if my early ported Guide Gun could be converted to 450 M?? Nope, heat treat is different, and 45-70 case has more volume, anyways.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow2 жыл бұрын
All Remington and Ruger made Marlins are fully heat treated, the Ruger is heat treated before milling which is more difficult but provides a better finished product. Conversion to a .450 is pointless and anyone who owns a .45-70 should get equipment to load for it. It is a wonderful and fun cartridge to shoot and load. And easy.
@DavidTrainmore2 жыл бұрын
@@JamesWilliams-cc1ow The phone call showed there is a difference between heat treats for 45-70, and 450 Marlins. The 450 M can be chambered in some bolt actions, whereas 45-70’s are limited to Siamese Arisaka copies of Mausers and a couple of Lee Enfields.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidTrainmore are you affirming that you recently spoke directly with the process engineer at the Marlin manufacturing cell at the Ruger plant in Mayoden, NC and that you were told that the pre-process heat treat that Ruger now uses is inferior to that used by previous iterations of Marlin rifles? Ruger-Marlin does not currently manufacture an 1895 model for the .450 marlin cartridge. The .450 Marlin is an obsolete cartridge because it has no advantages over the .45-70 Government.
@ciscokid59322 жыл бұрын
I had the Marlin 444 back in 1994..Awesome rifle..I traded it for a Chinese M1,a.../ m-14 at a gun show...I have regretted that ever since..it 2022..!!
@brianwinters54342 жыл бұрын
Ruger has always had great quality control. I have owned over 15 Ruger handguns and over 18 long guns. All good quality going back to my first Ruger in 1975.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@44240xtp2 жыл бұрын
I love Ruger. A great American company. I had the pleasure to meet Bill Ruger at a Houston shot show many years ago. He was a left handed shooter if I remember correctly.
@chadhaire17112 жыл бұрын
Ruger quality? Come to the shop and see all their guns going back for warranty work, along with S&W
@44240xtp2 жыл бұрын
@@chadhaire1711 What brand do you see not go back to the shop ?
@chadhaire17112 жыл бұрын
@@44240xtp Glock, REAL Sigs like 226/228, Most CZ, Most Beretta.....most of the time. HK USP but other HK strikers not as good...their polymer has always been sad except USP.
@DuginMT25Ай бұрын
Thanks for this video. When this gun showed up at my local store, I went there this month and checked the bolt/hammer clearance. No rubbing on the bolt past the ramp! Bought it, sighted it in, and plan to harvest a deer with it soon! Staying with the open sights on this one. Really like it, my first 45/70.
@ladybuggunner2 жыл бұрын
That's the way a rifle should look. Just beautiful! And that's the way a rifle should shoot. Just perfect! This is my favorite of all the many guns you've brought to us. And I'm just fine with you shooting all the hominy you can buy. Thanks for your hard work in bringing us another exceptional video. Sure hope you feel better soon!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ma'am! I always appreciate your comments!
@dsg47972 жыл бұрын
My dad always liked both Ruger and Marlin as gun makers,so do I,just well made guns!😊
@samhill34962 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there's a lot more to come. A 336 in 30-30 will certainly be on the table. It just takes time.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes. The Ruger CEO said new models would roll out slowly. And that is what is happening.
@claiborneeastjr41292 жыл бұрын
I"m a big fan of your videos, and a Louisiana resident!. I have a JM Marlin Guide gun - when they first came out - in May 2000. At the time I had an FFL, and my cost was $362.50. What a bargain! Mine has the 18" barrel . The bolt properly clears the hammer like your Trapper. It also has the ported barrel from the factory. I do like the new GG, especially the pistol grip and large lever. Mine has the straight stock and more traditional lever. I have fired mine 305 times - mostly handloads. I installed a Skinner aperture sight; I noticed the new one has the traditional semi-buckhorn sights. I also like the threaded barrel. With my cast (linotype) RCBS 305 FNGC bullet, it will group about 3/4" at 50 yards. I haven't shot it at 100 yards, but likely groups would be 1.5" - 1.75". It's a great little rifle. I have fired my brother's new SS Trapper - like yours - and was duly impressed! I also have JM Marlins in 44 Magnum (1966), 444 Marlin (1989), and a 39A (1954). Love my Marlins! I can easily envision adding some Ruger/Marlins to my collection!
@silverhorder19692 жыл бұрын
I hope the bring back the 1894 straight walnut stock 357 & 44 mag. I prefer it. As well as the smaller lever instead of that huge loop lever.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍 on both of your "hopes"
@ronherman60332 жыл бұрын
glad I have my Marlin made 1895 in .45-70....it is a beast. Very adaptable with a QR release on a Leupold Scout Scope along with Ghost Ring aperture sight on rear with a fiber optic up front where I drilled out a hole in sight hood to let light in and still provide protection. It has never let me down....even with full loads from Buffalo Bore or Garret. Great review on the new version...
@richpaydirt2 жыл бұрын
I love the marlin 336. I’ve never forgiven myself for trading my .444 years ago. Would love to see this caliber produced again. Awesome and hard hitting brush round.
@DavidTrainmore2 жыл бұрын
I sold a 444 Centennial because I couldn’t carry it in my pickup gun rack, due to the 24” bbl. P U’s aren’t getting wider these days, either!
@billbright17552 жыл бұрын
The Marlin safety features are outstanding. The two piece firing pin designed to fall out operational position until the bolt locking mechanism is firmly in place. Also the hammer cannot be operated until the lever is in fully closed and locked position. Surrounded by hammer forged steel all about the receiver proper and barrel chamber juncture. Proof tested by millions of real world firings in all weather conditions and ambient temperatures. The cross bolt safety can be left on for additional precaution as rounds are cycled out of battery. Always assume rifle is loaded and treat muzzle accordingly. I always enjoy your tutorials of various firearms. Quality content.
@steveshannon64972 жыл бұрын
Good information on a classic gun. Hopefully they’ll put the old 444 Marlin back in the line up soon. I’d love to see it in that same model.
@robertlinton59662 жыл бұрын
More likely we will see the 450 bushmaster
@johnathanhurd3561 Жыл бұрын
450 bushmaster ammo is more plentiful and dare I say cheaper than 444?
@semlohde12 жыл бұрын
Smile? That kicked me sitting in my recliner! My shoulders have been repaired and watching your intro made me hurt. Thanks for the range time though, enjoyed it.
@aaronwilcox6417 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see this version of the guide gun. Hopefully the 444 and 450Marlin are put back into the lineup but the real gem that Ruger needs to market again with Hornady is the wonderful 338 Marlin Xpress. The 338 Xpress and old 348winchester are simply the finest big game cartridges in an traditional lever gun.
@martinswiney21922 жыл бұрын
You certainly have an eye for detail. Now i gotta go look at all my lever guns and see if the hammers drag on the bolts. Like I dont already have enough problems. 😀
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Don't look. I've found that ignorance is bliss about half the time.
@martinswiney21922 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite ignorance is bliss and im happy as i can be.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@k2custom3512 жыл бұрын
Great to see that Ruger is producing a quality Marlin brand again, and glad that they seem to be taking your input seriously. I have no doubts that they will continue to refine their production issues.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Now, if they'll just come out with one like yours. That one I'll pay hard-earned money for.
@christhomas23892 жыл бұрын
Really waiting for the 1894 to come back and Ruger's take on the 39A.
@georgezink82562 жыл бұрын
I would love to have a 39a in 23 magnum
@georgezink82562 жыл бұрын
22 magnum
@arthurchadwell92672 жыл бұрын
Give me the 1985 Cowboy version. Long octagonal barrel, 10 shots... Loved those
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@Ledmetacdc2 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested to see if Ruger will resurrect the .308 marlin Express and .338 Marlin Express, since Remington killed those cartridges off for being associated with Hornady ammo. Ruger and Hornady have always been close partners, so I'm very hopeful we'll see a relaunch of those two rounds.
@charlesdeshler2022 жыл бұрын
Very nice review.... That Hominy shot was impressive. Even exploded the Mtn Dew. I'll be getting a GG when I can
@InGratitudeIam2 жыл бұрын
I admire your dedication, George. I hope that bolt issue gets resolved. I'm surprised a fluted bolt isn't used across the entire 1895 line. I hope that stout recoil cleared your sinuses.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Tom, it sure moved stuff around💥
@weldonwilson Жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite Sinuses, shoulder, fillings in your teeth... 😊
@richardelliott95112 жыл бұрын
You and Ruger are really teasing us with these guns. My 45/70 Marlin tag has already been filled with a 95 Cowboy, but that SS Trapper sure seems to be calling my name.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Haha!
@rlmillercpa2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful rifle. Love the look of the furniture. Thank you for sharing, George!
@jthepickle72 жыл бұрын
Mission accomplished; a protracted rain of hominy. The most fun I had with my new level action rifle was taking it completely apart and rubbing the necessary surfaces with 6 micron diamond paste, smoothing out the action.
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
I really hope that Marlin, under Ruger, gets back to their rightful place in the market. I hope to see .30-30, .35 Remington and .22 rifles soon (Model 39A). I am sure some people are anxious to see a .444 also. I think you're on the board of Ruger now, right? 😜 Well, tell them we would like to see some rifle versions with 22" or 24" barrel and half magazine. The unload feature is really a good idea. One of the major flaws of tube fed lever guns for many years. Thanks, George! 👍
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting on my invite to come up to New Hampshire but it must be lost in the mail😄😄😄
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite They need you, George!
@waynehajek63462 жыл бұрын
A blued and walnut 22" Model 336 in 25-35 Winchester would sure cure my itch.
@garyK.45ACP2 жыл бұрын
@@waynehajek6346 That's a tall order. I don't expect anyone to offer the .25-35 again. You could probably find a used Model 1893 ('93) in .25-36. This was an identical cartridge to the .25-35 WCF. Marlin wouldn't put Winchester's name on their rifles at that time. That's how it was. I won't be a 336, that cartridge was never offered in the 336 or the Model 36. If you can find a used one, they seem to go for $1000-$1300 in various calibers. (Don't go by asking prices on Gunbroker, go by "Sold" items in the advanced search) About the same as new "Trappers" and "Guide Guns" There is currently a .25-36 chambered Marlin 1893 ('93) with 26" barrel offered on Gunbroker with a starting price of $999 and no bids at this time.
@ryanwilson59362 жыл бұрын
I miss my 1924 Marlin Model 93 in 30-30. One of these days I’ll get it back.
@paulcupach81962 жыл бұрын
Wow! That is a beautiful gun! If the new Marlin .44 Magnum is even close to what that gun is, I'll be trading my Henry for it!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people will feel that way when they see the new Marlins side by side with a comparable Henry.
@colevetter89702 ай бұрын
This is my all-time favorite rifle. Not the repro, but this rifle in general.
@billdonnelly11342 жыл бұрын
Another good video. 👍 love the traditional blued and wood tone. I would like them to come out with a 24" to 26" barrell as well as in 30 30 cal . Keep up the good work. Your engineering experience really pays off on your eye for detail to the benefit of the rest of us and the manufacturers. Thanks again for your commitment 👏.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@richardmoorer26682 жыл бұрын
There was a cowboy model Marlin 45 70. 26" octagon barrel.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yep. I almost bought that one before I ran into my Winchester 1886.
@brandondavis4306 Жыл бұрын
I got my hands on one of the SBL models and I love it she deadly accurate and the wood to metal finish is indeed beautiful and very well done. Kudos to ruger for reviving the marlin rifle (the one we really want not the remlin disasters)
@Denner7712 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I sure hope Ruger resurrects the 450 Marlin, an excellent cartridge that feeds and loads like butter. Kudos to Ruger for keeping an American legend alive. I will indeed purchase one from Ruger.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I know most folks won't watch a video to the very end but that's where I posted the future plans that Marlin has and it does appear to include the 450 Marlin cartridge
@bobjohnson72072 жыл бұрын
Brings new meaning to the saying "Modern Day Classic"
@jims92492 жыл бұрын
Looks very nice. It will be interesting to see if other calibers will be added.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir they are coming. I mentioned them in the video in case you missed it.
@philippicphilodox8882 жыл бұрын
The US Weather Service has reported a localized weather anomaly: hominy hail. Stay tuned for updates. Seriously, that was an informative and entertaining review. Thanks!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you stuck around for the meteorological event!
@mikeepke5094 Жыл бұрын
Hello, I purchased a 1895 Guide Gun it has the bolt/hammer issue you describe.in your review. I knew about it when i made the purchase and had the dealer reach out to Marlin/Ruger for a RMA.I didnt think this would be an issue. However they told the dealer I purchased from there was no issue. I was shocked and plan to call them myself, just wanted to see how they resolved the issue for you. Appreciate the great reviews!
@MojoDevirus2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the "ride" sir. I can't owe any firearms from where I come from but I can enjoy that beautiful piece that you shown. =)
@Salieri47 Жыл бұрын
I'm always looking for new firearms channel where the info is presented intelligently without pompousity, with minimal redundancy, & not being told what my politics should be. Subscribed.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad to have you!
@jamesfairmind22472 жыл бұрын
I must be incredibly lucky but I bought a Remington period BLG Marlin which I guess from its serial number was built in 2018 that is perfect in every way. The wood to metal fit is 100 per cent and the quality of finish of the action, barrel and stock is as good as any mass produced weapon in that price range, and just as good as any pre Remington ones I have inspected. It is the blued version. To qualify myself, I own a lot of high end guns like Beretta, Purdy and Holland and Holland shotguns, and I am very fussy about fit and finish, so when I found the rifle in a shop I could not believe that it was as good as it was bearing in mind the terrible Remington rep. It is slick in action operation and extremely accurate too. However, I looked at another Marlin GBL on the shelf in that shop, a newer version that had just come in and it was not even slightly in the same league. It all reminded me of a comparable motorbike story. I was in a motorcycle dealership in 1992 and I saw a stunningly beautiful 1992 model Ducati 900ss and bought it on the spot even though I had only gone there for an oil filter for my dirt bike. There was a 1991 model beside it which was ugly and the 1993 model also right beside it too had all the high quality bits of the 1992 removed and downgraded and in a flash I knew exactly what had happened. Ducati had massively upgraded the model in 1992 but then the accounts department must have stepped in and complained because the cost of production was too high so they downgraded every single part of the bike from 1993 onwards. That my friends is why today a "white frame" 1992 Ducati 900ss is worth 3 times as much as any other year of that bike to a collector. Well I reckon just by luck I happened to walk into that gunshop and found the (one production run only) pre-accountancy Remlin GBL.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Next time you're shopping for guns or motorcycles, please let me know😉
@ridgerunner33642 жыл бұрын
Me too, the late model remlin is great!
@Gunners_Mate_Guns2 жыл бұрын
11:49 12:00 - That idea to put the chain under the can to emboss the can bottom from the force of that big slug was brilliant.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Just having some fun😉
@icfubar91502 жыл бұрын
Great review with the comparison. My Marlin is an older original JM version in the 1895 "Cowboy' configuration. I handload my own 350 gr cast using a duplex black / smokeless load. I use this rifle as a camp defender and at our winter gong shoot. A 12" gong shot at 200 yards shot offhand/ freestanding. Sights have been changed to a Williams FP peep and Lyman 17 front for a circle within a circle sight picture.
@Mark-uq9km2 жыл бұрын
I loved seeing the traditional Marlin hooded front sight again. I'm hoping the 336 is soon to arrive in .35 Remington. I know the .30-30 is more popular but the .35 Rem packs a lot more punch than the old .30-30. I would bet money on the .444 coming out soon but I doubt if the .450 Marlin will ever come back into production. Thank you, George for your reviews. I always look forward to your productions.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Mark. If you'll go back and watch the end of the video you'll see that there may be hope for the 450 Marlin cartridge.
@hankl.biermanii56202 жыл бұрын
I have a Marlin 336 XLR in 35 Remington and I absolutely love it. It’s about seven or eight years old I think, and it was made and bought before Remington got a hold of Marlin. I think Marlins are some of the greatest guns ever made.
@Mark-uq9km2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite By golly, that would be all right with me. Marlin and Hornady tried to make the lever rifle fill all needs with new cartridges like the .308 Marlin and the .338 Marlin. Sadly, both rifles are no longer made and I'm not even sure a person can find ammo anymore. I would like to see the 1895 Marlin add the .375 Winchester and the .348 Winchester. I can dream.....
@rjwintl2 жыл бұрын
seems to be a really good 'lever-action' , however at Three Times The Price of my 2011 built Marlin 1895 , 45-70 Classic (with the 22 '' barrel) , I'd say my original Marlin can still take any North American big game animal as well as that "Carolina Ruger lever-gun'' !!!
@davidgreve21812 жыл бұрын
The more you brag on Ruger, the more I eat it up!!! This is truly a Chuck Conners style weapon. I grew up watching that show, and he could really show off his shooting skills! So do you! A keen eye found that little flaw you mentioned, I think Ruger will be sending you a mountain pile of their guns for you to inspect for details in the future, especially any new ones they build. Keen eyes are hard to find. Great job on both the shooting and the review!
@hart64ghs2 жыл бұрын
Wow, 45-70 power! It's snowing Hominy in Louisiana! When I lived in Alaska I fired a early Marlin guide gun with 440gr. Buffalo Bore loads, whew, makes your eyes water. Now if we can get a 26" octagon barrel. Great review, hope you are feeling better.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Feeling great! Thanks for your comment! It must have been that snowy weather in Louisiana😉
@Graderman35872 жыл бұрын
Mine finally came in this morning,It's absolutely solid,I was impressed, nice wood incredibly accurate, Almost as good as the original marlin, But the Rugers are was cleaner,I'm mounting a thermo on it today and it will be killing hogs tonight
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@Bixll092 жыл бұрын
I have an original Marlin 1895. In 45-70. Purchased by my great Grandfather in 1912.
@shannonladely29762 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video in the fact you do testing of the Ruger made Marlin lever gun to make sure the hammer does not hit the bolt.. and the Manufacturer will correct it.... Nice..
@pheorrungurd87462 жыл бұрын
Their customer support should be THE STANDARD! Eve outside of firearms, I cannot help but compare customer service between them and all others I have to deal with.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Well said!
@johncoleman2495 Жыл бұрын
I love that Ruger is building the blued guide gun, but i hate the stocks. My blued walnut original guide gun is by far my favorite Marlin lever action. I really kick myself for not finding a .444p back in the day. While i was looking i came across a Winchester 94 timber carbine and liked it enough to abandon my search. Now its a hole in my levergun history.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
I've got a few of those holes as well
@Ceeby1234 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the sbl and honesty couldn’t be happier!
@jm3512 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t be happier that Ruger got the marlin brand. Remington did their best to destroy the marlin lever gun and it’s reputation. I’ve always loved Rugers as well. Win win for me. Lol
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Definitely a win-win!
@flesheater57122 жыл бұрын
Just came across your channel.. Great job on the video honesty is always the best. Always great to have another hickok45 style ,but with your own flavor, presenter. Keep it up. Yes I'm aware you been around quite awhile. But your channel really seems to be getting traction now.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate your comment!
@denisdegamon82242 жыл бұрын
I have an orginal 45/70 Marlin Guide Gun with magna ported barrel. I got it at least 15 plus years ago and it is a beast.
@MrZonacat12 жыл бұрын
The 450 Marlin is a beast. I hope they bring it back.
@Perry21862 жыл бұрын
yeah im wantin 444 fits my needs better
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Looks like you both may get your wish.
@jordanmorales86102 жыл бұрын
Ruger is doing right by Marlin, thank God.
@ramonmacias90132 жыл бұрын
Ruger repairing the damage from the previous owners is a godsend for marlin. Now if they can only get a few other classic Firearms brands to restore to their former glory. Ruger has always been my go to for a reliable durable firearm from my first Ruger Redhawk in 1985 to my most recent max 9 and lcp max
@nova68cutie2 жыл бұрын
Remington had very little to do with marlin manufacturing even though they owned it. Most of marlins issues came from losing most of there old employees during transition period & not investing in new tooling. This according to former marlin employees. No 1 else.
@richarddarnielle91612 жыл бұрын
Hopefully I can get some more feedback with the bolt catching on the hammer. I'm unsure of what I need to do. Again I have the Ruger Marlin 1895 sbl. Great review!
@robertlinton59662 жыл бұрын
I have the Remlin 336 BL. It has been fantastic. I purchased a 1894 from Remington with a canted barrel but I honestly can’t complain about the Remington era 336.
@T-Shire2 жыл бұрын
That is a lovely beast! I've never felt more like a Fudd than lately as I've gravitated so strongly towards lever action rifles.
@avocado97632 жыл бұрын
I like that we have a Mechanical engineer giving your review. You mentioned de-burring I think thats very important. The old days parts were polished, de-burred and jeweled in some cases. Thanks
@ronschultz8420 Жыл бұрын
Ruger needs to bring back the 444 marlin can't find one anywhere. Keep up the good work Ruger
@Patriot-rising Жыл бұрын
You have to admit that was an epic shower! Now aren't this big bores so much fun!! I have quite a few big bores in my collection including a 1895 SBL. But I want a trapper a lot! I support my local dealer as he is a friend. And as soon as he sources a trapper I am all over it.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
Good luck. I hope you find that Trapper soon😉
@Threewolfs-2 жыл бұрын
Still want the 16” Trapper, have the “old” Marlin Guide gun (love it, one of my favorite 1895’s). Love me some Marlin, love me some Ruger, really love me some Ruger/Marlin. Can’t wait to get my hands on one, if not all. 🤙🏼❤️🇺🇸🤠
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Good luck on your "hunt"
@Threewolfs-2 жыл бұрын
@@TargetSuite thanks 🤠
@douglasreed9237 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to get one. I've got one on order with my local gun dealer. Thanks for the great review and info.
@TargetSuite Жыл бұрын
Good luck!
@johngallagher23132 жыл бұрын
I had a Remlin version for a while. It was a good shooter and functioned flawlessly but the wood was not exactly Remington's best effort. I sold it and have regretted it ever since. Oh well gun traders blues. My Trapper has more than replaced it though. I put the offset hammer spur on my Trapper for additional surface area and the bolt bump does rub that but not the hammer.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@nkbemby2 жыл бұрын
Hint for smoothing the action on any gun coat moving parts with valve grinding compound run about 2 boxes of ammo through it ,remove compound should be smooth. RBC
@randallgreen67462 жыл бұрын
I have this rifle in REMLIN must have gotten lucky...it's flawless. I also bought a 336 in 35 REMLIN and it was nothing but trouble, should have sent it back in to Remington but I gave it to a friend..because he liked it. I told him ,please don't hold it against me.
@terryhawley202 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos. I always learn something new. Thanks for explaining how the bolt interacts with the hammer and what to look for. That explains why my Henry Colt 45 is so smooth and my Winchester 94 in 30-30 is so difficult to operate relative to my Henry. I will keep that in mind for future purchases. Thanks again.
@phoenixpopow5762 жыл бұрын
I sure do hope Ruger brings back the .450 Marlin. My family owns a few of them and obtaining ammo is no joke. I absolutely love my Ruger No.1 in .450 Marlin, it will never leave my family.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
I think you're going to get your wish. There's a reason they mentioned it in the 1895 owners manual.
@SantaCruzMountainGoat Жыл бұрын
I think they addressed the hammer and bolt issue. I picked up my marlin guide gun about two weeks ago but it does not have that issue. Thanks for this video.
@dawgbrooks57062 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. I would never have thought to check the guide bolt verse the hammer. Great to know. Stay safe and healthy!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
👍👍
@WMDTVIDS2 жыл бұрын
Good video, I love to see the 1895 still going strong with its third manufacturer. The guide guns are cool, but i'd really like to see Ruger go the other way and re issue the Cowboy series. 9 rounds of 45-70 cannot be wrong. And in 30-30 and 38-55 too.
@reidmattson1236 Жыл бұрын
Currently have one on order and can't wait to get it.
@trapdoorspringfieldmodel18882 жыл бұрын
I strongly recommend that Ruger make the loading gate butter smooth on that Guide Gun. Also, they should make the unloading of it have the same smoothness you reference that the Trapper has. The reason is that the Marlin brand is still recovering from serious damage and so people are still going to be skittish when being asked to put down a sizeable chunk of change. And anything that can be perceived as a negative can blow up and hurt sales and reputation; especially if there is a perception (real or imagined) that the J.M. stamped Marlins are still better. Also, a lot of gun people aren't going to perceive one gun as being a deluxe model and the other being a premium. They are going to compare them head to head and they will see the price difference between them as being primarily the use of stainless steel and a fluted bolt in one and not the other. Anyways, I wish Marlin the best of luck because more quality lever guns on the market are a good thing in my view.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow2 жыл бұрын
It could not be any smoother! No where does Ruger call the SBL/TSBL a premium and the GBL not a premium. I happen to own both the Ruger-Marlin SBL and the newest GBL and a Remington-Marlin SBL (plus JM models) and the GBL is equal in every way to any Marlin ever made when it comes to smoothness of loading and unloading and operation. The GBL under JM and Rem did not have a fluted bolt either and Ruger-Marlin is simply reintroducing the models as they were previously made but better. They are better. They is no questioning that, they are better thus far and it is not even close, particularly late JMs and early Rem-Marlins.
@trapdoorspringfieldmodel18882 жыл бұрын
@@JamesWilliams-cc1ow Premium and deluxe are Target Suite's words and not mine that he used in the comparison between the two. In that comparison he mentioned that the inside of the loading gate on the Trapper is butter smooth while the Guide Gun as he says "is not bad . . . but not what I would call butter smooth." To me I see no real reason as to why they both shouldn't be butter smooth, and since Ruger isn't marketing one as a deluxe and one as a premium most if not all gun people aren't going make the distinction that Target Suite did. So my comment is based on his direct review of the two in the video head to head, and I want Ruger to succeed with Marlin. The thing is that Marlin is a damaged brand that is going to be dealing with a customer base that is going to be naturally skittish. So any little detail, even one that is minor, can end up being blown up on the internet and still be a drag on a truly great gun years later (the 2020 Colt Python is a great example of this). Anyways, I hope that what you wrote is the overall experience many have or are going to have in the Ruger made line of Marlin rifles. If they do then these might just end up being the best Marlins made in decades. And yes, I do have experience with the quality issues that the late JM Marlin had in what was my first rifle. It was a Marlin Model 81TS that needed repair shortly after my father had given it to me for Christmas as my first .22 rifle. He sent it back to the factory under warranty to be fixed. Their recommend way to fix the issue required the user to violate the Marlin Safety Code. In the end my father managed to get a refund for the rifle. Ultimately, that bad Marlin rifle was great for me because I ended up learning about what I actually liked in a rifle, how to select wood, what kind of action I liked, balance, etc., and in the end the rifle I picked out with my father was a Winchester 9422. So bad JM Marlin quality landed me with a truly great gun. Now why didn't I go with a Marlin 39a? Well, in part it was because I did have that bad Marlin taste in my mouth, but mainly it was because my father already had one so it made no sense to me to have two of the same gun in the house.
@JamesWilliams-cc1ow2 жыл бұрын
@@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888 Thank you for the explanation. I guess you did not catch that I own the (Ruger-Marlin) GBL (Guide Gun) reviewed and a Ruger-Marlin SBL and a Rem-Marlin SBL and a flock of other various Marlins. I am not finding a significant difference in the loading gates between the three that are unusual or not typical of gun to gun minor variations. I have run a couple of boxes of home loads through my new GBL with no issues. My GBL hammer also does not drag on the bolt. I like Ruger and I wish them well and I think they are off to a great start with Marlin.
@patrickseekins12992 жыл бұрын
As former engineer in computer industry and gun nut, I appreciate your background and interests!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And let me say, it's good to have Discerning viewers😄
@williamcollins40822 жыл бұрын
Ruger is able to do a good job on stainless an a stainless truck gun is perfect !!!
@YTBEN10452 жыл бұрын
I guess I'm more of a traditionalist so I can't be happy until Ruger comes out with the cowboy versions of the 1894, 1895 etc. The real lever guns!
@christopherbishop49272 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Guide Carbine, Ruger looks to be living up to expectations......now let's see some Model 60's and 336's
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@daviddejong1872 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I have a 2019 made 1895 CBA with the 18.5" octagon barrel and they will have to pry this gun out of my cold dead hands. I would like to see Ruger bring these back also. I load and cast for my gun so I shoot it cheaply. Ain't nothing more fun than shooting a 45-70 lever gun! Thanks for the video
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Hang on to that treasure. Someday The Late Model Remlins will get the love they deserve.
@Jess-en4hu2 жыл бұрын
Who is CBA
@johnharris7353 Жыл бұрын
Good shot! Especially after a fast walk. Looked like manna from heaven!
@angussmith43052 жыл бұрын
Thankyou Sir for an excellent review with the 'Engineer's eye for fine detail' many thanks.
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Thanks for watching!
@Pedenzo2 жыл бұрын
That hominy cloudburst was absolutely classic! Thank you for another great video!
@TargetSuite2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@tylercunningham4052 жыл бұрын
Great Video. I am a big lever gun fan. I have a Remington made Marlin 336 30-30. Not a bad rifle, but I look forward to buying a Ruger made 1895. Can’t wait to see how Ruger addresses hammer/bolt issue.
@pickin4you2 жыл бұрын
You are not the first to see the issue with the hammer. It’s a super easy fix though. Just take a little off the top edge. Enough to clear the bolt, and it will still over cock like it is supposed to because you have that big ramp at the rear. Glad they are sending you a new hammer, but you can fix it without ever removing the hammer from the gun. A touch of cold blue when your done and only you will know. If any gunsmith worth his salt at Ruger cannot figure this out as fast as I did, he should not be working on guns. Took me a total of 5 seconds to see how to fix it.
@juanmacias418 Жыл бұрын
i got lucky with my marlin 1895 DARK... it shoots 1/2 MOA with an optic and just over MOA with the ghost ring sights... and that's with multiple kinds of ammo including paper patched lead to hornady leverloution....