Tarkov Budget Guns for PVP: Destroy geared PMCs with these weapons!

[@middleclassthrash]

The main thing I take away from this video is that ammo prices have exploded out of proportion over the last 8 months.

[@matthewzachariah9779]

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[@andrewzakai3896]

@Matthew Zachariah instablaster ;)

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[@andrewzakai3896]

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[@williamblake7386]

3:35 i respect this 5 second counter

[@Rabascan]

I think that as of late, the .366-AP-round deserves a mention as well, even if the ammo price is high.

[@Gigabeef]

I've had distance/accuracy issues with it but I need to use it a lot more to come to any firm conclusions. When I get around to it, I might make something specifically on it!

[@matmanplays3613]

.366 ap has terrible bullet drop you'd be better off using 54r

[@marksman24444]

@@matmanplays3613 Definitely not when you can build a decent vpo for the price of a base svd and this gives you access to dirt cheap 30 round mags. Also, 366 ap one taps thorax through level 4 armor

[@WhosBucci]

Marksman24444 the ap rounds are just too slow, doesn’t help that it costs too much for what it’s worth to make a gun accurate enough to shoot them where you’re pointing

[@marksman24444]

@@WhosBucci I think you can get them for just over 400 a round from mechanic

[@8acun]

Your play style is so different.. it's slow and steady easy modes; patient and accurate.

[@immDroidz]

Now that the hunter has a suppressor its my go-to budget sniper, it used to be the OP-SKS but the hunter is so much cheaper and has better ammo. However, the Vepr KM / VPO-136 chambered in 7.62x39 is definetly the overall budget king for me, ~14k rubles and since PS ammo is decent and the mags are cheap too, its also very versatile since you can slam on any AK attachments. I've used them for both sniping and close quarters and its an amazing and underrated gun for sure! Oh, and they always come back on insurance!

[@Gigabeef]

I prefer the full auto but for pure budget the low end 762 PS shooters are pretty great tbh!

[@immDroidz]

@@Gigabeef I just click very fast hahah

[@TheBrick534]

@@Gigabeef Shove BP in this biotch and go for headshots and you’ll be doinkin’ kids left and right.

[@Artroxaa]

Criminal how you aren't one of the top subbed tarkov channels!

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks so much for the positive comments. Really appreciate all you guys who've been so supportive - not been at it long so let's see where we can go!

[@E-bk9vk]

Don’t let them know our secrets shhhhhh

[@jehlici6208]

Just a tip for the MP7: I like to run one 40 rounder full of AP SX and 2x 30 rounders full of Subsonic SX.

[@Gigabeef]

Man I love the subsonic rounds, this is a good way to go imo. You can keep refilling the 40, same as with other guns that can take a big drum, just keep refilling and have one or two other mags in case you need a quick reload

[@LerzBerz333]

Now that the vector is out in .45 and 9mm, the mp5 is sorta out classed

[@neutricks]

@@LerzBerz333 not really budget though

[@LerzBerz333]

@@neutricks I guess, but if you get peacekeeper up, you can get 6.3 for 3$, and fill a vector (60k) with it, or just run g18

[@neutricks]

@@LerzBerz333 eh vector 9x19 for me usually cost north of 100k so its not budget at that price point for me

[@Ya_Boy_Bruh]

Love the video one thing I would have added is the viability of shotguns with flechette. Flechette has high pen, armor damage to shred armor, and 8x25 damage with a spread that makes headshots super easy. The buckshots like 8.5 and 7mm both are also viable for headshots but their low pen definitely makes them less viable for pvp

[@Gigabeef]

I did actually do a mix of ap and flechette but overall I found that I was more effective with ap, however I think if you're good at headshots its probably the way to go!

[@kurdistanindependance5471]

immediately nailed the categories for a budget gun and wasn't out of touch (i.e. million rouble guns considered budget) like many streamers

[@RayTonz]

You deserve more subs and I'm sure you'll be getting them soon with content like this. Thanks!

[@Gigabeef]

Thank you so much! Means a lot, really appreciate it :)

[@Flanker-NineZero]

I subbed because of how informative and especially concise you are. That intro, the categorising of the rounds, the literal 5-second self promotion - yes, mate.

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks! Appreciate ya :)

[@liamwinterton7370]

Definitely my new favourite tarkov channel

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks! Appreciate it :)

[@ioanni4681]

Straight to the point. No bs. Earned a new sub.

[@Gigabeef]

Cheers!

[@erdnusse277]

Great video - the Vepr Hunter is really great IMO. i've gone in naked with a vepr and a dream oin woods and left after killing Shturman, his buddies and half the server. It's class.

[@noxy8763]

HolyMolly you deserve much more subs than that ! Great vid ! Keep it up buddy !

[@Gigabeef]

We're getting there! Not started too long ago so on the way up :) Thanks for the kind words!

[@noxy8763]

@@Gigabeef you deserve-it bro ! :) In no time you should get big.

[@MyViolador]

Me: Pays atention in poor.

[@Gigabeef]

VEPR hunter then my friend. It's the best value gun in the game imo, especially early on + if you can buy m80

[@diexandead8091]

Scav runs, offline till scavs ready. Practice hard thats been my workaround

[@Maximus-bd4ef]

@@Gigabeef vepr sucks man it's max 10 rounds and they are pretty expensive. Plus it's only semi.

[@Maximus-bd4ef]

@@Gigabeef you can get a vss with a sight and 20 rounders for 80k, that, is the best value gun

[@mustangthekitten7765]

@@Maximus-bd4ef nah good ammo is too expensive

[@RollingSherman505]

Thanks for the pro-tip about the TT01...I feel like an idiot not knowing about that even after hundreds of hours in Tarkov. Subbed!

[@Gigabeef]

Awesome thanks! Thats why we love this game - such detail, always full of new things

[@deangordon2215]

Brilliant vid man. Have to day I've been loving Adars early game. If you find the barter trade for them then the ring mount/scope combo from jager and low profile gas block from mechanic is a pretty cheap option to get a lot of the scav kill quests done, in my experience. Earned a sub. Checking out the rest of your channel now. :)

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks and welcome! I normally am all Russian until later on for the better 556 ammo, but some people swear by the adar from the word go :)

[@icjinu]

I just got Tarkov. This video was very helpful and precise. Thank you

[@Violence1320]

Im a week into tarkov. you have amazing videos well detailed

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks!

[@cookiemonster8711]

Don't show them the way of the hunter

[@Gigabeef]

Your rat attack secrets are not safe with me :D

[@diexandead8091]

Lmfao as soon as i saw the price my rat eyes glew lol

[@cookiemonster8711]

@@diexandead8091 I am a bad influence

[@diexandead8091]

@@cookiemonster8711 we are rats who play chad sometimes

[@diexandead8091]

@@Trixless facts lets rat together xD

[@MM-lo6vb]

Great video! Something I like to use for budget is the dt-mdr Its a nice budget way to run m855a1 With a cqb muzzle and a Mlok grip it’s insanely cheap and decent. Main flaw is the rpm is slower then a m4 but if u get used to it it’s great

[@Gigabeef]

I guess the lower rpm helps with recoil. It's not a gun I've gotten on with particularly, but I do like the 308 version!

[@MM-lo6vb]

Gigabeef same here 308 is fun

[@josephmontanaro2350]

with the TT01 on the hunter you can also run a dovtail optic and still be able to use small sights like the buris, until we get the option to look under for the the iron sights (planned feature), this is the only way to run a red dot and magnified sight unless you use something like the NC star scope, Bravo, elcan (irons on top and toggle for 1x) or acog with RMR/backup top iron sights

[@mishka_vodolaz4165]

Man, you helped me so much with Tarkov. Thanks!!!

[@Gigabeef]

Amazing, so glad to hear!

[@guthriehausken1121]

Pretty sure I just became your 1000th sub man, congrats lol

[@Gigabeef]

Haha amazing thanks! Woo hoo :)

[@cross4579]

I never use shotguns usually, but I've fallen in love with the saiga ap-20 combo. It's so damn powerfull even good upto 100 meters now

[@Gigabeef]

AP20 is a beast if you can consistently hit thoraxes. I really should use the Saiga more!

[@cross4579]

@@Gigabeef yeah it's a great budget gun since there easily looted from scavs, il have try try the other shot gun too I like the idea of more range, nice video dude, appreciate a reply 👍

[@garyhamilton2104]

@@Gigabeef what would it do against level 5 armor tho?

[@Gigabeef]

It won't one shot level 5, I will give you that. But the second shot should have a pretty high chance of killing them due to armour damage - don't think any round kills in one shot vs level 5 any more, that includes 7n1

[@yousifmq]

1:16 lol that moment 🤣 the kicking animation is so funny

[@Gigabeef]

Haha :D

[@freshdachs6200]

One tip for shotguns: BSG stealth-buffed the Saiga12g (and TOZ^^) about a month ago by decreasing the pellet spread significantly! That means AP-20s may be more accurate now, but for sure the spread on something like Magnum Buckshot is way better than before...

[@Gigabeef]

Would tally with the in game experience tbh - grazing shots from scavs don't half mess you up these days, legs and arms all half damaged, one blacked etc, damn brutal!

[@miguelcanizares7522]

They nerfed saiga a bit and buffed mp 153 more recently so mp153 has lower spread and higher accuracy

[@freshdachs6200]

@@miguelcanizares7522 oh shoot, didnt know that!

[@ScabbyMcKniel]

TOZ life! Throwing 186 damage In a single shell SHREDS

[@Gigabeef]

Toz is secretly my early wipe favourite haha

[@TNTrevor]

I know this video is 3 months old, but you should note that the 7bT1 tracer rounds for the 7.62x54R caliber are a solid choice since they mitigate recoil as opposed to SNB, which adds recoil to an already recoil heavy weapon, especially if you arent modding the SVD out. if you can buy them from the dealers it is definitely worth using.

[@Gigabeef]

I'm not that much of a fan of tracers for sniping as it can give away your position! But I know people who really like them so personal choice I guess :)

[@lostgamer224]

adars can be bought for roughly 13k from skier ll3 using the recbat trade so you can get a semi auto 556.45 gun for less than 20k. you can also turn an adar into an m4 via the reciever but you will be less likely to get it back in insurance

[@Gigabeef]

Recbat trade is gold, as is the receiver upgrade!

[@spacecaesar7619]

Concise, good info. Sub well earned friend.

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks :)

[@SpaceMissile]

i love the appreciation for the vepr hunter. that's a great gun; i love when they fall into my stash one way or another. edit: also TIL "boomerang gun" and i love that idea with the long shotty.

[@RileysDogma]

This guy sounds like the rock dude from Thor Ragnorak and I love it

[@Satori-g4v]

I can smell the effort you put into your vids new sub

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks!

[@clamum]

For a lot of the ammo, you need to take into account that the reasonable prices for them are from the traders, not Flea Market. For people like me at level 16, I've got no hope of maxing out traders or probably even getting to level 3 before the next wipe. I ignore ARs and the MP7 because the ammo is so ridiculously expensive on FM (I could afford subsonic 4.6mm but meh). AKs are my mainstay because BT is affordable enough, and 308s are OK too with M80 (VEPR Hunter). Just looked at 9x39mm prices and damn, SP-5/6 are actually affordable. The 20 round mags aren't the greatest but dang I might have to try that out.

[@Gigabeef]

Yeah maybe give them a go! Btw I actually really like subsonic, what it lacks in pen it makes up for in rpm. Seems to take down people pretty well on factory for example, but it's a bit challenged at longer ranges due to the drop.

[@javierfranco2013]

This video made me a subscriber. You're awesome bro, thank you!

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks so much! And welcome :)

[@javierfranco2013]

@@Gigabeef I will be watching ang giving likes to your vids latter, have a good one!

[@parkerschanle12]

Great video definitely gonna think about all of this when making budget kits

[@Zenneh1337]

Surprised you didn't put the 209 with AP rounds with the Special category - its definitely a budget class material - 1 shot to kill chest with 30 round mag - with a cheap suppressor option is amazing

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not convinced either way yet on the 366 ap, but with the rounds at mechanic 3 I tried to stay away from too high a level req (most of these are 10-20 region, other than the m4 obviously but people can always use an ak). By the time you get to mech 3 I feel like you have better options or know what you like a bit better. But do I agree its like a better version of the hunter at that stage, however I haven't extensively tested the huge accuracy debuff it gets, and the recoil is pretty insane? Given its so specialised I might do a video specifically on it, once I've used it a bit more and come to some firm conclusions :)

[@axesul5131]

Underrated channel

[@Gigabeef]

Appreciate it, thanks!

[@leonirspaz540]

Tarkov budget op Gun: 55k roubles vector 10-15k rotor 9 mm silencer Whatever bullet u want 5k lem laser 5-10k foregrip of your choice Gratz you just made a less than 30 recoil smg silenced for under 100k that fucks people up

[@Gigabeef]

Seems to go up by 10k a day, over 70k now... when will it end? I agree the Vector is super

[@savagehippie420]

AS VAL will still shred in one to 2 hits right? Did they balance the VSS I heard something like that, was just wondering bout it, awesome video man, love the layout and detailed tidbits.

[@Gigabeef]

Kind of - it's just not really budget any more. Still kicks ass, but VSS are like 70-80k and VALs are 90-100k stock. SP6 is 700r per shot and the pen was nerfed a bit so SP5 only has 35 pen now. My biggest issue with these guns however continues to be the cost of 30 round mags at 40k EACH - with a fire rate of 900 its crazy to me to run it with 20 rounders. I'm sure some people out there smash it but it's not for me :) Edit: Oh and thanks for the kind words, much appreciated!

[@savagehippie420]

​@@Gigabeef My pleasure, to think though, how complex this armor and cal. system is, I just want a full weapon swap to left shoulder option, it would change the gunplay so immensely, I think Nikita knows of it and wants to implement, but I'm not too sure. Enjoy, I'm hitting that sub and like button btw :)

[@Gigabeef]

Amazing thank you!

[@gster109]

GREAT video man

[@kairala2011]

How about the mp5SD after you unlock it? It’s essentially better statwise compared to a fully modded m4. And with the new 9x19 rounds it’s a budget monster.

[@Gigabeef]

I have a whole video on it, its one of my absolute favourite weapons in the entire game! It's the ammo though that just keeps it out of my top top list, but it is super fun to use and has like, 0 recoil

[@fishsticks198]

the probleme with the mp5 is the accuracy, for a 50 round mag dump at 50 meters which is kinda close, you may only hit 6 of does rounds because of the shitty accuracy of the barrel even if the whole time you had your sight on the target

[@jaytaztt]

Very informative video bro, good job, hope I see more.

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks for the support, much appreciated! Trying to get out as much useful content as I can for newer players - I love Tarkov and I also love helping people get into the game :)

[@Chironex_Fleckeri]

Maybe it's quite new, but there's a stock for the Hunter available from Jaeger LL2 for 5500 rbl. It's a straight upgrade for recoil and ergo. Ive been running this with a dovetail OKP. Even with M80, I'm finding it easy to hurt the enemy badly enough to either kill or injure them to the point where they head for cover. Gives me options. I'm also carrying an APS as a cheap last ditch gun. I find those for like 7-8k each at times. Been having some disgustingly good raids. Ill try the others you've mentioned. For me, this wipe has been about building my courage to get killed. I actually find myself doing well against the panic sprayers with my preference for aimed shots. I'm enjoying my second wipe so much more because of the perspective gained from my first.

[@Gigabeef]

Second wipe is a wonderful experience :) yes the hunter stock is brand new in the patch!

[@scrivster]

Nicely explained. Great video thanks! Maybe if you haven't already, some budget mod guides for these? Cheers!

[@Gigabeef]

All on the list, will get around to them bit by bit :) So much stuff to make!

[@sovereign6291]

Saiga 12 with a Monster Claw muzzlebrake, Side Mounted Kobra and 10-round mags(Use an Alpha Rig). Ultimate Insurance Fraud. 6x3 gun that won't fold. You need to take the mag, muzzle brake and optic off/out to make it a 4x2 folded and none of the pieces cost enough for anyone to bother. Therefore they pass on the gun completely, because they don't want to fill their backpack up instantly by picking it up.

[@bryanshang4972]

Bank:exists My brain: BREAK IT!

[@Gigabeef]

Haha get your efficiency on! If you're gonna spend it, spend it well :)

[@Zenned]

i've gotten the same vepr hunter back six times in a row lmao

[@Gigabeef]

Love that gun, honestly the staple of my early game alongside the AKMS. My favourite is the axion Scope mount + laser + acog, its so funny. I actually killed Schturman with a hunter, so it's definitely a beast haha!

[@Zenned]

@@Gigabeef is it worth it to pack some bp into the akm if i am broke and people have gotten decent armour? thanks for the response! (the mid tier akm)

[@Gigabeef]

My favourite trick is to just slot 10 in at the top and PS underneath. Gives your opening volley a bit of oomph, and if you take 3 mags you only lose 30 if you die. Keep some in your secure so you can top load it after a fight!

[@_harry218]

Nice video. Liked and subbed

[@fhsdgbxdf]

if u spam fire while u reload it will cut the animation off on the next available loop. just so u know bro

[@Gigabeef]

Sometimes it just doesn't want to seem to play ball haha 😂

[@franmartinez3317]

Great video very informative thanks man

[@jonesy9744]

Well now that we're in 2021 we can add the new TOZ to the shotgun category here because that gun is absolutely absurd with shrapnel rounds. You definitely wont get it back in insurance, but if you do the prapor tasks to buy it off him it's like 45K instead of the 90-100K on the flea. Only investment is really ammo. But the better shrapnel shells you also get from having traders leveled up.

[@wlogan0204]

best budget weapons: close? any cheap shotgun + flechette med? any 366 ak long? mosin

[@psychoazzadar6487]

I'll sub, but you have to upgrade to 1080p sometime soon.

[@Gigabeef]

I'm heartbroken by how hard it is to get these new cards! Looking for solutions and should be fixed sooner rather than later :) Appreciate the sub, thank you

[@jeffreymelton2200]

Thanks once again for your tips. am I wrong or are most of those mags you mentioned that you could get from traders, locked behind a loyalty wall? So I (at level 11) cant buy?

[@Gigabeef]

Definitely possible, depends on who you have unlocked at what level. The hunter has this issue with jaeger rep unfortunately as the 10 rounders are at ll3 I think. Svd 20's also are higher level. One gun that didn't exist when I made this was the RFB, I think that is a bit more accessable

[@lildan4101]

love your content, keep it up:)

[@Gigabeef]

Cheers, appreciate it ty!

[@bigbear9182]

Hunter OP M80 and M61 mega pog

[@itsthunder8492]

Personal opinion, ADAR best budget gun, I run a gasblock, a muzzel and a small reflex. in total its around 30k ish, you can pick up and adar off a easy scav run or rec bat trade, rec bat goes for around 13k on the flea

[@mateusz_0]

If you get an adar from a SCAV you should disassemble it and buy a lower reciever from skier. Then put all the parts on the new reciever and you have a 100 durability adar for 7k

[@meanbob6762]

By now the KelTec is cheaper than the Hunter (same setup), and has better stats. Also a couple more possibilities to upgrade if wanted. Greets, P

[@jordynicolas1]

Kedr+sp7 is a good leg meta budget and kill very fast, the downside is the playstile can be difficult.

[@H3lmHammerHans]

I would add the two vpos chambered in .366. they have a bad rep from before 12.7 but with the addition of .366 ap they are my go to budget guns. +suppressors are dirt cheap

[@Gigabeef]

I need to do more work on these, I've used them a little bit but not enough yet to justify coming to any specific conclusions. I have had some accuracy issues at medium distance though which put me off a bit

[@Simon-in9iq]

You can hold left click to cancel the reload

[@Gigabeef]

It always seems... Temperamental lol

[@mikaylamahood2046]

7:58 and don't forget the PPSH-41; I've killed so many sweaty chads with this its mental

[@thesoundsyouhear4507]

your thumbnail was the least cringe so good job i watched it

[@polskiogorki-zp7ks]

i used the glock 18c as my pistol of choice for the skier pistol kill quest oh my god luger cci in that thing is something else

[@AverageMayhem]

Yeah, half of all my PMC kills this wipe have been using an MP153, it is such a powerful weapon 😂

[@Gigabeef]

I've been doing the shotgun tasks with a saiga 12 + drum on factory, zero ergo build laser point shoot only it's been fun!

[@ZeroGaming-el7yt]

MP9-N is a good budget PMC killer now that 9mm got a buff. Also 7N31 is ridiculous

[@Gigabeef]

The fire rate is monstrous but the mags aren't big enough for my potato aim sometimes haha. I've been having a lot of fun with 7n31, next vid tomorrow is on it actually!

[@ZeroGaming-el7yt]

Gigabeef can’t wait

[@kaa8646]

dude i honestly dont have a problem even using pst gzh the fire rate its melts faces, and if i do run into someone with an altyn or killa helmet i can just switch to the legs and still feel confindent in those fights, easily one of the best budget guns, ive even started running it with a sniper instead of a handgun

[@Gigabeef]

Makes sense with a sniper, I gave up using pistols ages ago!

[@GHOST13500]

My budget builds are custom named by me as my rich builds, usually taking a total budget of 40-60k, with anything over 100k being streamer money for me. I had 8 million once at the end of 12.12, like literally the third to last week right before all the events. That lasted 4 raids and I made zero profit. M4A1 with 23 recoil is fun but not when it’s chambered in M855A1. It’s basically an airsoft gun at that point. Pro tip from my experience: don’t expect to have a positive KD if it took you the whole wipe to get trader level 2 on peacekeeper, mechanic, therapist, and jaeger only. I need assistance homies

[@Steven0O0Seagal]

I hope there ends up being a cost efficient meta for more of the weapons. I hate getting the same HK/M4 and AK's any time you get a kill in a raid..

[@gondir6891]

Very nice guide

[@sukez.cinematics]

What upper cloths do you use/ how can you get the digital watch?

[@wokedog1799]

The very idea of subsonic MP7 rounds completely negates the strength of the cartridge and makes my skin crawl

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

No pp, mpx, or klin mention. Ill forgive you but they are chad slayers. Iron sights on the klin arw good but it seems to shoot a bit high, idk why

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

Also, buckshot/magnum buck is a chad slayer, always has been

[@Gigabeef]

I just don't think it's consistent enough, especially for newer players! The ammo is too crappy and often you have to go for legs. Can be good but I don't like it personally - I got ABSOLUTELY DESTROYED by magnum buck the other day so there is merit to that for sure hahah

[@dirtydeeds4free553]

@@Gigabeef buckshot less so, but shrapnel 10 and 25, my god, one shot one kill feckin heaven. Almost got an altyn boi on crustoms, did nearly 350 damage to him with qwakemaker in a pp19, fucker had ap6.3 in a vector, chad got lucky i didnt land the last 2 shots

[@SeekerDan]

Amazing videos!

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks very much :)

[@icedly7978]

great video bro

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks! Appreciate it

[@erdinyobarboza8083]

Adding an AR grip+stock combo to 153 make sit also permanently wide in raid so it is even more likely to turn back to you as long as you put cheap grips and stocks

[@bhsmith13]

put a pp19 grip on the AK, its super cheap and adds a decent amount of ergo to the gun.

[@Gigabeef]

Thanks for the suggestion! The base ak grip gives 5 ergo though, so I'm just not sure if I'd notice the extra 2 given the pp19 grip only has +7. If we're talking hyper value then every 1k must be saved 😅

[@EvanJones-jn7nu]

PPSH is the best short range budget gun imo, dominates on factory and is like a baby P90

[@Mrslykid1992]

When you run m80 from beginning to the end of the wipe! Come on! Come on! Respect my gangsta!

[@RuffsTV]

Seems to be that an ak74, slightly modded to about 75 vertical, running either BP or BT is the best bang for buck gun this wipe.

[@TheNitrozwerg]

What about the 5.56 MDR? 50k and very usable with only a sight.

[@F1ghteR41]

7:12 Those 4.6 mm AP rounds are totally unrealistic and imbalanced. The whole 4.6 lineup is a bit too high in damage, but the real problem is armour penetration, that is simply ridiculous given the small bullet and case size and moderate chamber pressure of the round. Together with 5.7mm rounds this stuff should be significantly tuned down. 8:38 How do you rate the recently added KS-23 though?

[@presidentskillz7502]

I would prefer the MIA )) higher rate of fire lower recoil 50 mags and you have only to pay 15+ k more in the flea market for the stock version

[@Gigabeef]

M1A is a good gun, I just don't run it a great deal - plus with the 50 rounders and the price of the non m80 ammo I think we're kinda moving out of budget land, but no doubt its a decent weapon

[@mr.watersheep9824]

What about mp9 with AP. 3 dollars a shot and the mp7 ammo is always out of stock

[@Gigabeef]

Hmm I just think ap 6.3 is too low on pen to be consistent enough vs level 5 armour, which is what you really need to beat at this point. I'm sure it works sometimes but both fmj and subsonic for mp7 perform better and usually you can buy one of the two. Not that this is always what you should go off, but there's a reason mp7 ammo is out of stock and 6.3 is not in my opinion!

[@danialweeaboo3706]

Use 7N31

[@owowowpal4396]

At the rate the MP9 fires, I’m sure it should be more than enough to kill someone if you hit all your shots

[@ZeroTolerenceGaming]

I cry whenever he mentions decent ammo being under 1000 roubles a round where most now is over 2k a round

[@viikmaqic]

you dont need to reload the whole shotgun, just a slug or 3 then stop reloading?

[@Gigabeef]

Well yes, but then you only have 3 - just think mags are better tbh!

[@viikmaqic]

@@Gigabeef I just meant when you were being shot at and you fully reloaded the shotgun, looked funny. But yes, mags always better, i agree

[@Gigabeef]

@@viikmaqic oh yeah - sometimes it just won't stop reloading haha! Have the same with the SKS top load sometimes... Odd one!

[@zani661]

Best content

[@Cthulhu357]

Yo ik this is a while ago but why can I almost never find a pmc standing still that doesn't know I'm there?

[@Gigabeef]

It takes time to figure out the map flow + where people might be + hearing gunshots in your exact raid and figuring out where to stand so they come across your path without spotting you. Just experience tbh

[@SlickJohnFPS]

Genius!

[@jasperrobson100]

the 136 is the true budget it cossts 35k from skier lvl 1 and u can shove a black stock butpad rk6 ak100 handguard and any dot sight and its under 70k running ps

[@peanutwars]

I don’t get how you could ever justify buying a 100k gun even with insurance I mean what happens if you go in and lose that your down 100k? Also I am a noob and probably don’t know what I’m talking about but I usually have like 300k ish and idk I feel like that’s way to big a risk

[@Gigabeef]

If you're just starting out then I get that! Once you are making decent money though you'll have a different view on it. Hideout makes money once upgraded, and loot in raid is typically 10k+ so you only need a few items to sell on the flea to afford a 100k weapon

[@peanutwars]

@@Gigabeef haha that’s a pretty good point actually I do make enough after a raid to justify it honestly probably. Got a quick question do you know if you kill a player scav as a player scav does that turn all scavs hostile ? Thanks for the reply :)

[@Gigabeef]

Yes it does - the only exception is if they shot (and actually hit) you first, then you can kill them and the ai scavs won't become hostile. But they actually have to hit you with a bullet annoyingly, if they miss you have to be careful about fighting back!

[@peanutwars]

@@Gigabeef damn okay that helps a lot thanks so much I’ll be telling my buddies about your channel just started this game when it went on sale and I’ve been loving it so much lol

[@Gigabeef]

Awesome! Best of luck, it's tough out there :)

[@CrestDriven]

its sad that some of the weapons i used to have set up like. my boomstick. the 153 shotgun with slug rounds with speed loader and 8 rnds, hexagon silencer with a top rail for the red dot sight... used to cost me a little over 110k.... now its around 360k. its insane how much the prices are up. :S

[@earlmarvin8025]

Good vid

[@Gigabeef]

Cheers!

[@HotdogSosage]

Wait a sec - bs is stronger and cheaper than m55a1? Why am I not using it all the time? I thought with both at trader purchase the bs was way pricier?

[@Gigabeef]

BS is stronger but more expensive than M855A1

[@arkplayer179]

I just roleplay a conscript and run ak47 with standard 7.62 and thats it

[@Gigabeef]

Haha love that. I have done far more of it myself than I normally care to admit - AKMS, PS rounds, bucket helmet, golden! 75 round drum if feeling fancy - amazing how well it works lol

[@Conrad75]

Was 55a1 really only 250 a round a month ago?? It’s now consistently more expensive than 995 on flea

[@Gigabeef]

It's only worth it if you can buy it from the traders in my opinion, which is why I don't recommend 556 weapons before you have access to it there

[@Robertthebob]

Wait, you can kill other players?

[@viper5857]

You kinda look like if jerma and Linus tech tips had a child

[@maxstor6422]

the ultimate chad killer budget gun of all times is KS-23 with shrap10s