[TAS] NES Mega Man 2 by Shinryuu in

This is a tool-assisted speedrun. For more information, see tasvideos.org/4410M
TAS originally published on 2021-03-11
Mega Man 2 is a game that hardly needs any introduction. This movie plays Rockman 2, the Japanese version, which is essentially Mega Man 2 in difficult mode.
Shinryuu ( tasvideos.org/Users/Profile/S... ) improves the by 5.52 seconds, thanks to better optimisation. Please read the for more details.
See and the for in-depth explanation and answers to various questions regarding this movie.

[@ObsidianHawk]

A 5 second improvement is just insane.

[@warmCabin]

About 2/3 of it comes from Crashman. He does some tricksy stuff with Item 2 to avoid a refill and two pause menus

[@angryladgd]

I love the new show-off elements

[@internetuser8922]

The music in this game is so amazing.

[@Recon-cv1fe]

The best music in all the MM games in my opinion

[@growingdarkness9884]

ehhhhh, have you listened to the other mega man OSTs?

[@Blaze5857]

mega man 7 has cooler music >:)

[@joeyboi]

the only good track in this game is wily 6

[@thethinker5472]

@@joeyboi correct

[@Recon-cv1fe]

18:32 That fish was intended to be a jumpscare and you cannot convince me otherwise.

[@lmost]

I can be convinced otherwise and you can’t convince me otherwise.

[@silverflight01]

23:45 It's over, Wily! I have the high ground!

[@Belthazar1113]

Bubbleman looked so confused. Poor guy.

[@jefff8130]

I know right? I felt bad for him lol

[@jsbmx2039]

The whole game didn’t know what to do lol

[@myst6673]

12:38 Bubble Man: "What the heck's going on? I don't remember ordering such a klutzy construction crew! Unless... Metal Man, get down right now!" Mega Man: (slow clap).

[@axlthunder]

Wow. This is the first MM2 TAS i've seen in a good few years. Absolutely blew my mind at some points even though I knew about the zipping strats already.

[@Sekiria23]

Even after all these years, folks can still find new ways to amaze. Loving the Item-1 manips near the Wily doors.

[@achilles3140]

Sick audio. The NES Console is a national treasure

[@abraham3673]

the entire mega man franchise has amazing soundtracks

[@ausgamecollector]

*global

[@Marian_Polnocny]

@@ausgamecollector Famicom is a global treasure

[@ausgamecollector]

@@Marian_Polnocny Famicom

[@SATISFYPLANETNATION]

That ending made this game so beautiful, you had to fight such a hard battle to be able to see those end credit arts. Fantastic job on rewarding the gamer exponentially for fighting such a terribly hard game.

[@NA-vr7lf]

Just read the author’s comment on the posted TAS link. The dedication of him and his friends to this game is amazing!

[@Melody-Man]

12:34 Bubble Man: Aha! Nobody can stop me! Nobody can wi-... Mega Man? Where you are?

[@E-102_Gamma]

He was right after all: Nobody could indeed stop him.

[@ddawgmcdawg213]

This was an incredible TAS. I’m not the biggest fan of MM2, but this made me appreciate the game a lot more. I’m curious if the weird falling to the bottom of the screen and ending right by the boss door could be used in other games because I think the engines for the NES MM games are slightly similar. I hope some of these techniques can be used in other games. Either way, this is really cool and easily one of my favorites.

[@warmCabin]

You talking about the crazy deaths that happen in Crash and Wood? Mega Man 1 is the most similar in terms of zips and glitches, but even that game is shockingly different from this one.

[@ddawgmcdawg213]

@@warmCabin I was talking about that but now that I looked into the resource data I realized that it’s not possible.

[@Cabeza492]

What's TAS?

[@rhtorres]

This is just..... Insane

[@msp720]

I like how the first couple stages are fairly normal, then the rest of the game I'm just "um excuse me what just happened"

[@zoroarkdx4491]

Other TAS runs: Surpasses Shinryuu's old time. Shinryuu: *And I took that personally.*

[@gratler]

i wonder how the Tas deals with different kind of boss paterns. do you just run it enough times until you get the perfect run or can it react in some way?

[@warmCabin]

We don't react to bad patterns, we manipulate good ones. The term for it in the scene is luck manipulation. We basically enter the fight, and if the pattern's bad, load state, wait a frame, try again. Mega Man 2 makes this especially easy because your subpixel feeds directly into the RNG, so we can almost always get what we want with 0 delay.

[@NeuralNetProcessor]

Jesus I had no idea Wood Man's stage was so broken

[@lewisspring35]

The fact he let Heat Man kill him at the same time Heat Man died and the game counted it as Mega Man's win is a SUPREME flex move.

[@Carnaj90]

Bruh that Crashman level was hilarious. Then I saw Woodman's stage. Shoulda been named Weedman with how trippy that was.

[@OmegaVideoGameGod]

Beyond beautiful

[@Revaan86]

He use a many glitch so is not beautiful

[@LiftedStorm2733]

Now that speedrun was something :)

[@dkillalegend]

That was fun, given the minor improvements!

[@gabrieljoseozanan6989]

Oh boy, that Woodman level just threw me off!

[@jsbmx2039]

He didn’t even touch the ground lol

[@rodonic01]

Finally! It's been over a year and 6 months...

[@scrash_14]

7:45 and 12:28 , Megaman clearly falls DOWN and it triggers the before the boss screen? I don't get that ... If I try this myself it's instant death ... how does the triggers work into those screens?

[@phoenixdaronco9540]

I think the trigger works because Shinryu confuses the game by adding to the amount of sprites onscreen, and it causes the game to program a transition instead of a pit. Like for instance, Shinryu was able to transition down the pit at the end of Bubble Man's stage because of all the explosions, crabs, and Metal Blades present on screen. I'm not particularly an expert on speedrunning, but I think that sounds right.

[@samdilophosaur9787]

Wait the background stars in the robot master intros are the birds? How did I not notice they were birds?

[@wolverinesigma2565]

Astounding to see this game beaten in under 25 minutes, as someone who has beaten all six mega man nes games

[@nicoletravis1290]

Very impressive gameplay. Megaman vs Heatman draw

[@abraham3673]

that wood man run was insane looking

[@icenovice]

Does dying while charging A. Fire instantly revive you, or was TAS just doing that for fun?

[@icenovice]

Whoops... I left the screen for a second and TAS was already breaking Crash Man's stage. Wait, it just happened again....

[@sourandbitter3062]

Yep you got it right. Releasing a charge of atomic fire after dying bypasses and shortens the death animation. Death animation and fire charge must use the same memory address and interfere with each other, Idk. You can do it while playing, it's super easy.

[@Tailsfan5338]

This was my dad’s childhood game. He played in normal mode when he was a kid and was able to beat it,

[@stillill3375]

What's the difference between normal and difficult? I am nearly through with normal and wondering if it's worth to try it in difficult.

[@HylianWindRider]

The difficult mode makes the enemies tankier and do more damage. It's actually the difficulty in the Japanese version.

[@stillill3375]

@@HylianWindRider thanks

[@HylianWindRider]

@@stillill3375 You're welcome!

[@alexbond841]

Did not get what happened at the beginning of woodman stage

[@lightfeather9953]

Bubble man fight at 12:25 was hilarious. Wow

[@abomasnow4]

Is there gonna be a reupload of this with visible controller inputs? You know, like the last tas for Mega Man 2? I like seeing the controller inputs, especially on the "Get Weapon" screen.

[@ezgames6925]

Mega Man Zipless only had the input display because the author made an effort to do music syncing with it during the weapon obtain screen.

[@xxEzraBxxx]

He didn't do music syncs but I made one for you anyway. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmHPp4epgKyHfbs

[@zosonils]

the death lasers in quick man's stage are such bullshit that even the tas needs flash stopper to get past them

[@sourandbitter3062]

During the zips the laser patterns and rooms/obstacles are out of sync. It's impossible to complete this level with zips without using time stopper. I know it's just funny but yeah, fyi.

[@zosonils]

@@sourandbitter3062 oh that's interesting! never apologise for sharing Cool Mega Man 2 TAS Facts i'm very pleased to have learned something neat as a result of my mid-tier joke about mega man being hard

[@ahmadgames2011]

How to Make Long Video wothout Bandicam and Mobizen in PC

[@darkseba_1825]

sssssssssssssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr glinch , it never fails

[@jsbmx2039]

Now that was a good wood stage

[@gourdy6297]

megaman 2 has a sick soundtrack

[@mr.business2922]

nutty

[@sportsjefe]

12:25 until the boss kill is just next level stuff.

[@auraX67]

bubble man was like "uhh, am I too early?"

[@POSSUM_chowg]

And to this day nobody knows what happened to Bubbleman.

[@MANTARD]

Poor Bubbleman looked so confused

[@Zeoinx69]

Wanna know why Wood Man gets defeated by Airman Tornado's? Because Air is mostly oxogen and not carbon dioxide :D He was suffocated to death.

[@E-102_Gamma]

Strictly speaking, plants don't "breathe" carbon dioxide so much as "eat" it (they use it to make glucose, a type of sugar), and they still need the O2 as well. _(ACKCHUALLY)_

[@ConnorsPiano]

I thought it was because tornadoes can tear up a forest pretty badly.

[@SRADracer]

I watched bubbleman’s stage multiple times, because the awesome music was way too short 😊

[@gratler]

12:37 bubble man so confused about the whole thing he decides to do nothing at all. he could at least move around :D

[@ProtoMario]

But where did Crash man's missile go?

[@TrueAgentZeroVT]

NES 8bit Music so damn amazing considering the limit of the console Hehehe MegaMan goes brrrrr

[@dylanblue9201]

12:38 Bubble Man: Aw man, Megaman didn't defeat Metal man yet, did he? Megaman: *SAW BLADES GO BRRR!!!* Bubble Man: _WHAT THE FUCK!? IT'S RAINING SAW BLADES! AAAAHH!!!_

[@sourandbitter3062]

I wish this could be done RTA 18:36 but there's noooo way. There's the randomness of whether the fish will appear or not then the TAS probably extends i frames with lag and there are those 2 precise jumps on the spike thing and on the corridor's floor. Probably ends the zip with fewer than 5 invincibility frames left, if it's not frame perfect even.

[@user-hu9zw3sq1m]

やはり最後はこれ、木、か、私は何かそのような予感がしていた。

[@user-lh5dc5cy1b]

9:14 rock man payed a visit to hell

[@rgygduysdgyuygsduysd]

At 12:39, did Wily forget to program me to look up and fire 😂

[@dablueblur3148]

it letrially took 6 seconds to beat both phases of wily machine No.2

[@kevine8736]

poor bubble man didnt no where to look for megaman lol that was funny

[@millsxi]

Bubbleman had no idea what was going on.

[@GyroMan5136]

I hope some of these zips are possible for a human to do, it's fun to do them in playthroughs lol

[@SHINXANTA]

23:40 .......excuse me?

[@xxEzraBxxx]

button mashing

[@ShinryuuTAS]

...and there's an invincible block you can land on.

[@sourandbitter3062]

​@@ShinryuuTASSo cool! I wonder if this could be done in RTA. For 1 item-1, the possibility to always get a left side kill. I guess runners would have implemented it in runs by now if it was a good idea.

[@sarcasticguy4311]

The Bubble Lead only allows two instances to be active on-screen at a time but you can totally mash buttons at point blank range to make it seem like he's firing a machine gun. Very easy to do on Heatman's boss fight but it burns through the ammo faster than you can damage him due to invincibility frames.

[@thegrayshaws]

The Wood Man stage is insanely broken.

[@reguedebulle]

Wouahouh

[@NonRandomUser]

At 18:37, the Big Fish (actual enemy name) clearly hits Megaman and triggers mercy invincibility in order to setup for the Item1 Zip. Why doesn't Megaman's lifebar decrease from the apparent contact with Big Fish? The wiki says it should do 10 (ten) damage, if I'm not mistaken.

[@warmCabin]

They straight up don't hurt you on the Japanese version. No obscure glitch, they just deal 0 damage. The wiki probably needs to be updated.

[@SpyroTheEternalNight]

5:41 WHAT? why did that enemy just... disappear??

[@AB39]

imagine a category like uhhhhh Wily% where all you have to do is get to Wily 1

[@warmCabin]

Some people actually do that. Look up 46 robot masters

[@bovchyourano8652]

This woodman stage glitch is really hardcore.

[@bovchyourano8652]

i mean... we dont even see mega man spawn... wtf..,? is it real ..?

[@sarcasticguy4311]

@@bovchyourano8652 "There is no spoon."

[@hongduongang8718]

5:34 why did the small heart move?

[@warmCabin]

It actually clipped inside the ground a little and zipped! Mega Man's not the only thing that can do that.

[@mikuhatsune8121]

Ông cũng biết chơi trò này à mà ông cũng fan Miku à 😁

[@hongduongang8718]

@@mikuhatsune8121 phần này tôi không chơi mấy, tôi chơi phần đầu nhiều hơn và yep, tôi fan miku :))

[@KnuxMaster368]

Hopped on TASVideos to check the forums, and I saw this and just said, “Woah.”

[@twinhats8221]

this was very scary to watch

[@JebronLames9612]

Op

[@chamtheman551]

1:27 I don't know why this is so funny to me

[@LoisBlaize]

tas on this game in an nutshell game : did you die ? tas: sadly yes... BUT IVE LIVE

[@seronymus]

What happened at around 15:55? A level warp? This run is crazy

[@ShinryuuTAS]

I did a glitch known as DelayDownScroll. It scrolls me to the next screen from below. For example I do that at other stages such as Bubbleman and Woodman but in Dr. Wily 1 it allows me to kill Mecha Dragon with one hit at that certain room. I also perform a trick known as Double Death as seen at the end of Heatman fight so I can teleport even after Rockman dies. Rockman teleports 8 pixels a frame as far I can remeber right so it's a handy trick.

[@sonicthehedgehog71]

@@ShinryuuTAS why did you use metal Blade on pico pico? his weakness was bubble lead

[@solarflare9078]

@@sonicthehedgehog71 Allows them to destroy out of reach drones. They die quickly anyways with the Metal Blade.

[@sonicthehedgehog71]

@@solarflare9078 oh

[@sonicthehedgehog71]

@@solarflare9078 also have you played zook hero z for The game boy color?

[@moysesalejandrog6748]

Cómo puedes entrar por las paredes en megaman y bass

[@thechestrockfield]

What in the Game Genie is going on here with the extra guy for every kill?!

[@wolfpackflt670]

It's called item drop manipulation. The TASer is doing it on purpose.

[@cassandrarousos3555]

Are these glitches or cheats

[@regularrock8637]

Glitches. Everything done in this run can (in theory) be done without the use of an external cheating device. SummoningSalt recently put out a big video about speedrunning this game and how a lot of these glitches work.

[@RyneMcKinney]

I want to see kids from 1989 react to this

[@LunaMinuna]

Nooooo Bubble Man 😭 he couldn’t defend himself 😭

[@scruffnananessful]

Word to granny this games flashes gave people seizures, gave my cousin impared vision cause he used to play in the dark so he ended up with glasses

[@robertorges1338]

muy bueno! me encanta este rockman!

[@rubikscubeearf6218]

Am I the only one who rave dances to that first song? Amazing

[@user-lh5dc5cy1b]

Ironic that tas went to heat man right before air man lol

[@opa-rappa]

Wait! I've just realized that the boss gates don't activate at the same place! Even though I've played Rockman 2 since like 2017!!

[@luisditaa]

8:16 why are there birds instead of stars?

[@warmCabin]

It's a little Easter egg if you hold A

[@luisditaa]

@@warmCabin OH wow I didn't know that thanks

[@Megaman12]

21:27 Boss rush

[@hoopla1480]

15:47 what

[@errorexe319]

scroll delay with double death )

[@CarlosExplica]

4:59

[@MEGAMAN-os5ek]

poor bubble man😢

[@bgrcomputersltd]

Another world record speedrun of this game.

[@stardustmotion]

13:35 fire is wood man stage weakness

[@sarcasticguy4311]

Multiple bosses in MM2 have more than one "weakness". Atomic Fire can one-shot Wood Man but it takes longer to charge to full strength than just rapid firing with Air Man's weapon.

[@AboveEmAllProduction]

Fire man weapon are best in game

[@ORECCHIOGD]

3:56 bug of game, there was a tie

[@seven8time]

Wow!

[@Silentema]

Nice

[@Revaan86]

Chester 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@twvids7097]

Cut it a little close with Heat Man there.

[@guest3988]

Megay Man 2

[@mikuhatsune8121]

Stop crying 1 Year old kid is salty 😁

[@wellokayyes1266]

3:56 💀

[@silverflight01]

15:47 What

[@pd7266]

I've said wtf too many times watching this.