[TAS] Nintendo DS - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon - Explorers of Sky (Full Story)

[@danmoreman3738]

*grabs popcorn and prepares for seven hours of amazingness* Seriously though, thanks for TASing this man

[@milkman9314]

I kind of chuckled in the beginning. Imagine the person or thing behind the aura asking the questions and the tas being the player saying yes without them finish saying what they had to say lol

[@batofdestiny]

55:40 It’s ya boy Guzma

[@kennynakawaki]

Love this game! TAS makes it so much more enjoyable!

[@YoshiKecleon978]

Awesome TAS :)

[@Tonyette]

6:24 I laughed for some reason when your partner almost killed you

[@Tonyette]

oh wait

[@assainwolf5704]

Rip pikachu. You will be missed

[@Pika250]

Through my personal experiences, I learned that pikachu was the best choice for the hero. T-shock is excellent for early game, gets a lot of other interesting moves later on (agility and discharge especially). One factor for the partner selection is can it use a long-range attack that OHKO's rhyperior in darkrai's boss battle? Water and grass easily come to mind; vulpix gets energy ball (albeit from a TM) specifically for this.

[@Pika250]

+Pika250 And vulpix starts with ember and faint attack, also good moves early on.

[@Pika250]

+Pika250 My strategy goes like this: On pikachu's turn, throw sleep seed at darkrai (assuming I'm carrying one); he should fall asleep. Partner will use said long-range attack to OHKO rhyperior. Then pikachu can spam discharge (now that rhyperior is out of the way) until only one enemy (most likely darkrai himself) remains.

[@luca5621]

I use pikachu in my First play

[@zxylo786]

My first play was me as Pikachu and Vulpix as my partner

[@richarde98]

at least a FULL run. gg

[@chipmunklegends9518]

1:39:44 every speedrunner's nightmare

[@kumoko3728]

So much time lost by not holding the B button to skip dialougue

[@Damariobros]

I remember in Explorers of Time it was possible to get softlocked at Steam Cave. It actually happened to me when I was really little. I had months of EXP/Reviver Seed grinding (meaning I had about 3/4 of my Kangaskhan Storage full of Reviver Seeds). I thought I was a good enough level, so I went in and destroyed Drowzee (if you don't beat Drowzee you can actually have time to grind infinitely without story progressions) and then went through the story up to Steam Cave. Neither of the Kangaskhan Rocks there had storage access enabled, so I ran out of Reviver Seeds at the Fake Groudon fight, finding out that I was STILL underleveled, and that I was softlocked there and had to restart the entire game. All the rest of my Reviver Seeds were in Storage, yet there were TWO Kangaskhan Rocks there that SHOULD have had Storage Access enabled, but did not. So, all of my items were just outside of my reach. I was NOT happy.

[@luca5621]

I have difficulty hidden Lander temporal tower aegis cave dark crater rayquaza dungeon heatran dungeon giratina dungeon gyarados cave mesprit dungeon

[@genericusernamething]

dat graphics glitch at 4:26:29

[@efbfbd]

glitchless, no commentary 👍

[@geph13]

6:47:20 how ON EARTH did this man go through these floors so dam fast

[@sleepyprincee]

TAS

[@gallopingquackers]

What choices did he use for the questions?

[@starfruitified3456]

My god, so much talking in this game

[@Tom-dg1yv]

Seeing a wonderful game like this one being speedrunned breakes my heart

[@spongeb27]

Ok I don't know if this is a really dumb question, but... aren't the floors in this game created by RNG? How does the TASbot know which enemy Pokémon are where, where the stairs are, etc.? Unless there's some CRAZY RNG manip at play here

[@HgFin]

You probably forgot you even made this comment but I'll provide an answer, along with some info you didn't ask for but might find interesting. TASbot knows where everything is because of save states. So you make a save state at the beginning of the floor, figure out where the stairs are, then load the save state and make the route to the stairs. RNG in this game is determined by frames and inputs, so the RNG value will change every single frame and every single input. So theoretically, someone could potentially make a TAS where they manipulate stairs in the first room of every floor by playing around with inputs or waiting for a specific frame to enter the stairs. But that'd take a LOT of work (that probably no one wants to do) and would only be possible through TASbot since it'd require literally every single input to be frame perfect. TASbot could also wonder mail in a warp scarf and manip warps to take them right next to the stairs, which is what runners do in Blue Rescue Team Unrestricted speedruns, so check those out if you wanna see what that kind of RNG manip looks like in action. Also, if you aren't familiar with normal PMD speedruns and didn't know already, this run is really, really outdated. Like not only is Pikachu now considered one of the WORST possible choices for a speedrun (which in the up-loader's defense, Pikachu was considered the most optimal for runs at the time this was made, so it only made sense to use it), but the WR for any% with Wonder Mail is now 4:59 by Wh0misDS, which makes it only around 5 minutes behind this TASbot's any% time (link if you're curious kzbin.info/www/bejne/m3rdq3SVfKlrjdk ). There's also now amazing strats using wonder mail to get really good items for going fast; one which doubles your speed (fight gem) and another which lets you walk through walls and on all terrain (mobile scarf, creating very high risk high reward strats). So if a TASbot used those then there would be less of a need to RNG manip 1st room stairs every single floor. Plus, it would honestly be way cooler imo to watch a TAS using those strats because of how hard moving fast with those items is normally, so seeing a TASbot navigate rooms frame perfectly with these strats and no RNG manip would truly be insane. In Any%, there's 3 hours and 43 minutes of cut scenes, dialogues, and content when you just have to do nothing but hold B. So I'd estimate a TASbot run like that could easily be sub 4:30, and Darkrai% could be at least sub 7, but one using perfect stair floors would be much less. Anyway, I know you didn't ask for all of this info, but I hope it was interesting and cleared some things up for you.

[@asdq495]

@@HgFin Super late to this comment but I have some input. Manipulating the stairs to spawn in the starting room on every floor is actually impossible, since the layout for the entire dungeon is determined on floor one. The only way to affect floor layouts after entering the dungeon is by quicksaving, which is almost always going to be slower than just running across the floor to the stairs. I think quicksaving only gives one possible layout anyway, so the manipulation potential is extremely limited (I haven't tested quicksaves in my own TASes since there really isn't any point to it.)

[@Kotori--Chan]

and i always thought this game is impossible to speedrun/tas because too much rng D:

[@notso7093]

(Working on a TAS of this game) dungeon layout is determined when you enter and attack stats have a pseudorandom generator that seems to output the same results in the same circumstances.

[@AAABattery24]

Your choice was Pikachu... wow. That's the Pokemon I had to play as when I played. Only difference is... I had a Chikorita as my partner.

[@luca5621]

I charmander leader Piplup partner

[@jinks9671]

Why sky? Why not time

[@johngotti4286]

Furent because it’s the same thing

[@Cupshadow]

It has more features than time and darkness

[@CesarTorres61296]

Sky has Vulpix.

[@Martyste]

Time/Darkness would also waste a LOT of time with sandstorm damage slowly hitting each on-screen pokemon one by one.