[TAS] Trackmania A-0 - 4.38 (-0.01) | Ft. JaV, Trabadia, Shweetz

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Never stop, and don't give up, and don't lose hope, because you will be rewarded for your efforts.

[@Kimuraah]

Well said!

[@lollol-en9xx]

Now do .37

[@Aymil]

never gonna give you up

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@Aymil Never gonna let you down XD

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@HyprTM XD

[@Plastorex]

I was told "not possible" so many times on many seemingly maxed maps which I later broke RTA, but seeing such limit broken thanks to TAS is beautiful, well done guys :)

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

It was really worth the struggle!

[@arthuratunescoimbra]

Wyląduj

[@xalat6277]

One and a half minute video for a 4 second record, now this... Is content

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I think I can mostly see this being a compliment, but I thought at the beginning it wasn't. XD Thanks BTW!

[@ca1ebyt6]

4.38 second record*

[@tobiasauyero1078]

The world's most optimized track has been finally broken, and it was believed to be impossible due to how precise you need to be. Also F to Nadeo for being .01 off the WR KEKW

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

If you never give up on a goal, that's what you get!

[@halalcat9792]

@@gl1tch3d_tm 4.37 PauseChamp ?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@halalcat9792 Not a chance

[@jeremymcdowelltx]

Gl1tch3D What about never giving up?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@jeremymcdowelltx Listen, 4.37 will not happen because of the amount of time it took for us to get the 4.38, and the amount of precision the run has. JaV even explained that shaving off only a few more micro-seconds would be extraordinarily hard to do.

[@Cuthalion]

Insane. TAS the most classic, the most basic, the shortest map of any trackmania and managing to find a-0.01 on a 4.38 (or 4.38999999) sec map, is genius. Bravo.

[@Poutrel]

Just to be the annoying purist here, there are actually quite a few shorter Nadeo maps. But yeah, pretty insane

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@Poutrel There could be, but yes, we spent a long time trying to get this TAS WR, way more than final enigma

[@Powercube7]

@@gl1tch3d_tm couldn't you technically just bruteforce this time?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@Powercube7 If only it was that easy, it would've been done way sooner.

[@igntuLTM]

gg I saw this coming after I heard about shweetz 15 decimals time bf script Good job guys

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Oh, I didn't know that, neat! And thanks!

[@Poutrel]

After everything you've endured on the Discord server, that's a deserved achievement

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks! It really only seemed to fuel me to keep on going, but it was only a matter of time that they didn't wanna hear about it until it really happened.

[@meable3763]

mom: "dinner is in 4.38 seconds" me: "I've got time"

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

LOOL

[@linden2391]

Honestly this took so long, but glad to be apart of the journey! Thanks Glitch and hope you find some more Nadeo tracks that are "impossible" to beat, keep it up!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Maybe I will, we'll see!

[@Kya10]

Let's FUCKING GO dude! GG for not giving up, you made the right choice! I'm so proud of you! 🔥🔥🔥❤

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@RacetasClub]

what a time to be alive! let's go :)

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Yup!

[@svk_zoltan]

as someone who really tried hard to go for 4.38 on this map and was only +0.001 away ... this is insane! finally someone could actually simulate 4.38 run on A-0 ... I didnt go off the start edge however, it seems like you can shorten the distance with that and not lose any momentum. Great achievement.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@lincolndethomasis6602]

Nice work, I bet there will be a glitch to set a 3.50 in the future

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Lol XD

[@lincolndethomasis6602]

@@gl1tch3d_tm most people thought that a01 tas was maxed then a nosebug was found

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@lincolndethomasis6602 Yup

[@RomanMlejnek]

@@lincolndethomasis6602 nosebug was found years ago, you mean noseboost

[@lincolndethomasis6602]

@@RomanMlejnek yes, thanks for correcting me

[@Shweetz]

gg Gl1tch3D for always believing gg JaV for helping so much

[@maik3001]

Nice job! Press forward harder for more speed

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Never heard of pressure-sensitive acceleration, will be sure to try it! XD (I know it's a joke, but for some odd reason, it feels as if you steer harder the more pressure you put on the left or right key)

[@maik3001]

@@gl1tch3d_tm it seems like that XD

[@daewe]

okay now this is what i call a "flawless run"

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks! :D

[@MONSTERAGAR]

History was made today!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

You bet!

[@homiemuddax]

No fucking way. You guys are legends for breaking limits and years. Unbelievable. 👍🏻

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I don't even know how it's been since we've gotten it.

[@aleckslolol]

nice timesave

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thank you so much!

[@WinterlyTM]

Lets fucking go!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

XD Yup!

[@ReVDeatH]

Such brilliance...

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

thanks

[@marcinzielinski3655]

Wirtual will do 20 min episode about 4 sec map :)

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I was thinking about wirtual possibly making a video on this, maybe he will.

[@nekojimTM]

Best revenge I've ever seen

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol

[@eblignoi]

How? I cant believe for this Impossible Sick!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@jopahui2001]

It happened, oh god it happened.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

indeed it did

[@robinbinder8464]

That TAS dude is pretty good!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@tumage8592]

That looks so easy. But just imagining the hard work that made this payed of is beautyfull

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

yup!

[@dreflox]

A truly inspiring TAS to live by

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Yup! And also Happy New Year!

[@BFHThePunisher3000]

I honestly expected this to be a joke video and am confused now. Can we maybe see a comparison with some of the best human runs with Photo finish perspective? Also I am curious about the time in the description, 4.389999398896471s. Did you measure it somehow or just guess the digits?

[@herkules593]

Game ticks are not this precise by nature, so you're rightfully confused. It's probably linear interpolation. If you know the speed and exact position of the car in the game ticks before and after it crossed the finish line, you can calculate when it did. Tbh I don't know for sure how TMNF works under the hood but this is usually how games like this do that.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I didn't guess the digits, the time in the description is what the custom precise finish time bruteforce script told us.

[@KuchenKiller]

Someday my friend told me: never dont give up

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

well, you should never give up on something you want to achieve

[@greenstonegecko]

Incredible.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@wallyTM]

impressive, congrats!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@Arcsinx]

What thats actually super impressive !

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@TheRareOcelot]

4.37 believer btw

[@TMAllBest]

can't believe this is real

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I couldn't quite believe it either when JaV got it, but it really is real!

[@ensiehsafary7633]

At fisrt I thought of some crazy nose boost or something

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Lol no.

[@DomikTrackmania]

The biggest mistake that some1 can say is like _Theres a 99.9999999% its not possible_ (with how much nines you can imagine) you still leave that 0.00000001% out there. Saying such a phrase, you certainly know that you may not be right. (Dont take as a insult Schmaniol btw :x)

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

You're definitely right though!

[@IlGreven]

This needs a Wirtual commentary and sexy jazz music...

[@GuanlongX]

en aften ved svanefossen my beloved

[@mechanicalmonkee6262]

Any doubters, L I don't know what this is abt lol (in the sense that ive never done this before), but i wouldnt go and tell someone something theyre trying is impossible even if theres juuust a 0.00001% chance its possible. Realistically it might be impossible, but by saying that youre just making it less possible

[@mrstronghands476]

Nice nice

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Thanks!

[@gslTM]

4.389999398896471 I can't lmao it's so close to 4.39. I know I'm a year late but this is ridiculous

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Hey, don't worry, but yeah, it is really close.

[@ennyyyable]

give me the first minute back holy fk

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol

[@more_yasnotsi]

So, A-0 is MAXED, .37 is surely impossible!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

For a good moment thought you commented that it is possible, but yes, 4.37 is not possible.

[@more_yasnotsi]

@@gl1tch3d_tm I think so too, but my comment is also a little of a parody for all the comments you mention in the video. Secretly hoping to be featured in a video about the next TAS on this map :)

[@LouisPlaysDrums]

@@gl1tch3d_tm Until one day, Hefest got... This run

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@LouisPlaysDrums haha XD

[@unwritten8953]

yes

[@aijena]

You could definitely do this in ESWC with just running those TAS inputs as an independent macro that presses DEL first and then is on a timer of its own. This one shouldn't be that crazy to do like that since it's so short.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Well, you might wanna include the slightly different physics factor

[@aijena]

@@gl1tch3d_tm Yes you would adjust the macro for that then a bit ofc.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@aijena might not be that easy

[@andrezzz_]

Got this recommended to me by the algorythm. What can I say...Wirtual video when?

[@ericdanielski4802]

Nice TAS.

[@OPEK.]

I remember when some idiot tried to tell me that this map was maxed. Don’t ever test my knowledge

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Wow, glad we can prove him wrong.

[@Kendardoesstuff]

😳😳😳😳🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

XD

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Well, some of you want a comparison, so here it is! streamable.com/0jnqbb (No video, just picture)

[@ralphmarbler27]

This is how you shut detractors up.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol

[@detour23]

O my we thought the track was maxed

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Well, it is now.

[@Maxiie_TM]

How to make a 1.30 min video out of 4.38 seconds run

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Had to make it dramatic, but didn't have music. lol

[@ninosnarzz3323]

I did before 🎅

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Well I did it for real.

[@TMAllBest]

please come back

[@arcieplays9040]

for the future, can you show a comparison between human and tas, and explain all the minute details, since from eyeballing it the run seems somewhat unoptimised!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I actually forgot to do that, I really wish I remembered, I will put a picture link in the description if the Comparison of our worst TAS, Vs RTA, Vs 4.38.

[@arcieplays9040]

@@gl1tch3d_tm thanks, can't wait to see it!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@arcieplays9040 there's not much information, there's really not, but check comments, I posted a picture of the difference

[@arcieplays9040]

@@gl1tch3d_tm i saw! TAS is futher ahead then you might think...

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@arcieplays9040 It prob is

[@kierenunderwood1941]

Oh yeah, do 4.37...

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

LOL, not a chance, unless we sometime find a really crazy bug again in trackmania that'll allow us to get that.

[@deeleer_]

da hecc

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol

[@Orange_Wowee]

>ok

[@PetterLyngeng]

Video starts at 1:14

[@zai-tm]

The problem is that it's using TMUF physics which aren't the same as TMN

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

We'll that's only only problem, we might be able to use unlimiter to really simulate TMN ESWC physics

[@jashepoon]

1:15 If you don't deserve to be lectured and just want to see the replay

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol

[@billlloup8708]

hahahhaha wtf broo impossible hahaaa big GG man !!!!

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

yup

[@gbod6002]

custom scripts >>>>>>>

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Wouldn't have been possible without them

[@Shweetz]

Custom scripts

[@HellisCatus]

Is the .38 possible RTA on ESWC? I can tell that .38 is not RTA viable on TMUF, but because of the difference in the physics of the two games, maybe would be possible to achieve .38 RTA on ESWC. I would be interested in trying to get .38 RTA in ESWC, I tried that 3 years ago and failed, but seeing this TAS makes me hopeful again

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I don't really know.

[@Radovanslav]

KOWALSKI. ANALYSIS.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

XD

[@tyetonix8071]

then ppl will say "then do a 4.37"

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

that has happened, but it's impossible

[@meteorname]

Okay, but how do you even improve this aside from just letting bruteforce/precision script running for a long time?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Not really much you can do other than try crazy ideas and have patience.

[@joevdb9232]

4.37 poss

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

nope

[@brockenbauer]

Greeaaaaat Job, and now A1??

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I may consider trying, but not too soon.

[@brockenbauer]

@@gl1tch3d_tm i will wait for it :)

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@brockenbauer But it'll probably be a long time.

[@NickMaovich]

i think ill have wife, house, kids, car before glitched gets .37 on A-0

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

You will because 4.37 won't ever happen.

[@Soundlmpact]

4.37 is 99.9999999% impossible

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

LOL, well, I can definitely say, that it is.

[@PassiveIZ]

Wait so for my little human-calibrated mind i dont understand why you would make the right turn in the end, mind letting me know?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Apparently it saves a little extra time, like around 0.0015ish.

[@oreotheuser]

what is neocreed's rta time?

[@The_Yuki_Hime]

nice, 4.37 when?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Will never happen, impossible, unless we find a new crazy speed bug

[@trabadia]

It was so tedious

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Seriously, it was.

[@nekomata_mottsii]

havent the two tm games had vaguely different physics?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

they do

[@krong_tekk]

can i download the maps

[@noseboost]

Ok what

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol

[@ExodiumTM]

Do you know why doing those super small turns seems to be faster? It seems counterintuitive (I'm guessing the bruteforce found it by itself?)

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

JaV pointed this out and we don't yet fully know why it's faster than just going straight.

[@tadziu2400]

I don't play trackmania but I believe the TAS script just follows the actual shortest line to the finish and at the end it does turn right so that left wheel crosses the line a little bit faster than the rest of the vehicle

[@ExodiumTM]

@@tadziu2400 I didn't mean that. Look at inputs at around second 2. It turns, but it's not doing the shortest path

[@tadziu2400]

@@ExodiumTM fastest path here would be a curved line because the track is curved even though you can drive in a straight line. This is how physics work, and I do believe that it does this small turns to follow this curved line with computer precision

[@ExodiumTM]

@@tadziu2400 again, I did not mean that. Literally just after starting the attempt, people just go straight, and THEN turn left for the turn. However, instead of going straight BEFORE doing the turn, the TAS does very slight turns left and right

[@PepekBezlepek]

so .. what did the tas actually do better than .39? There are no tricks here, I am confused?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Nope, not confused, the TAS actually pretty much did everything better than 4.39, the start, the middle, and the end. Because you see the inputs flickering constantly to achieve more precision that humans just cannot get.

[@CrusardModding]

So, what exactly happened? Before the finish line he turned to the right so that his left tire can cross the finish line faster because of the steering angle.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

That actually helps up gain some micro seconds. Without it. It would've taken too long.

[@Kya10]

Thats FAR from being everything tho... Thats just the end of it.

[@gergosoos4652]

Ever tried speedsliding?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Lol, nice one XD

[@gustavholmqvistloved7286]

Alright a 4.37 is definitely impossible.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Darn right it is, indeed!

[@banana_]

how do you even find an improvement in this map....

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Days of hard work and effort, and help from custom scripts. Plus, I didn't doubt the possibility when I started.

[@banana_]

@@gl1tch3d_tm that's amazing, congrats!! 😀

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@banana_ Thanks!

[@chrispy780]

Bruh like that has to be like 4.388 or 4.389

[@WinterlyTM]

I believe they said its 4.3899994

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

check description

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@WinterlyTM Yes, it is, I updated the description accordingly, yet I don't have the other decimal place values

[@chrispy780]

@@gl1tch3d_tm ok I thought the decimal place goes to the 3 numbers but I stand corrected

[@HaseebHeaven]

If its not Valid in ESWC then how it is achievement because we only care about its original Game that is TM not TMUF, they both have different environments and game engines.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

It's an achievement anyway because in TMUF, it's most likely harder to get 4.38 because of different physics

[@HaseebHeaven]

@@gl1tch3d_tm congrats for TMUF but for TM ESWC if its achievable there then its great otherwise not.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

​@@HaseebHeaven Well Different physics will most likely mean different result, but maybe if donadigo tests it, it might work. I'm just glad we got it in TMUF

[@HaseebHeaven]

@@gl1tch3d_tm well lets hope it will work for other versions as well then it would be nice achievement overall 🙂

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

@@HaseebHeaven yup

[@Cyberangel39]

Yes, but how about 4.37?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

haha very funny

[@adg30]

I got a 4.39 like 62 times. 38 human possible?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

I'd say just forget about it, because it will never happen due to the input precision required to get that time even if you slow down the game.

[@abordachev]

Ok ok, so what’s the trick???

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

There's kinda no trick at all, just patience, precision, and trial and error.

[@Khetomi1]

why does it steer to the left randomly at the start and steer to the right before the end?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

It's a little bit hard to explain for the start but the ending is done this way because it saves a few micro-seconds, and for the start, it's mostly to squeeze out the extra micro-seconds needed to get this time as only using 1 input for the start will be slower.

[@hakumen9149]

Why does the trackmania community always tell players their goal is "impossible" and then their goal gets reached

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Because, if their goal seems very out of reach to others, then people will doubt.

[@mok5364]

So this run is not humanly possible?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

Nope, it ain't.

[@ADOSMOORINOS]

In what trackmania game does this track exist?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

TrackmMania Nations ESWC (Electronics Sports World Cup)

[@nakoda1610]

ngl, i diddnt know of this track so this feels very anticlimactic for me

[@cipherxen2]

So 4.37 is impossible?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

yes

[@matstach5598]

is there any video on yt how to use this app?

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

It's not really an app, it's more like just a desktop game Or lemme know if you mean like, how to make runs like this

[@ananomaly3346]

.23 is not possible

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol, dang right it isn't

[@T4B_M3RC]

True video starts at 1:12 thank me later!~~~~!!!!!!

[@Eddyj0314]

But then, Hefest got this run.

[@gl1tch3d_tm]

lol XD

[@syntheticfun]

lmao imagine actually caring about this