thanks for the review. I was torn between these two machines a few weeks ago. I ended up buying the bishop shader because you had showcased David Vegas work and he uses them as well as a few other artists I admire use bishop. I made my decision solely off of that & I'm glad I did :)
@julievarner7013 жыл бұрын
I have that machine the battery last a lot longer that 3 hours. What voltage are you running it at?
@greggrease13773 жыл бұрын
Bishop wand gang stand up
@krisfreeman88493 жыл бұрын
I have all 3 wands and I must agree they are just great machines period!
@jasoncole30753 жыл бұрын
I've been using the shader as well as the packer with the critical battery's for about a year and I fully agree. I also do a lot of black and grey but as a shop artist I have to do a bit of everything and these machines do it all. But I also have an Axys Valhalla that I keep as a backup and I really love that machine too. Curious if you've ever tried one?
@artsyhernandez95113 жыл бұрын
I recently have been using the Valhalla as my daily. I used to prefer the Xion
@jasoncole30753 жыл бұрын
@@artsyhernandez9511 how are you liking it? Sometimes I'll still pull it out. Definitely very versatile and nice .
@artsyhernandez95113 жыл бұрын
@@jasoncole3075 I love it. I used to think it was too punchy compared to the Soektra Xion. But now it’s just a time saver
@Cjmm0072 жыл бұрын
Vahallah still working? It seems a lot of people have been sending them in for repaira
@grim-13693 жыл бұрын
The bishop wand liner and color packer are amazing also. I went through a bunch of machines before I got the tri fecta that is the bishop wand series of machines. Amazing!
@naryanclaudy211610 күн бұрын
Would you say the bishop has any give to it ? or is just a hammer?
@johnyxart3 жыл бұрын
I bought the Packer for color and it does a phenomenal job. As always Oliver laying down the knowledge, thanks man!
@cocorodrigueztattoos49693 жыл бұрын
The video I been waiting on my guy 🤝🏆
@PRO_GAMER_SIM Жыл бұрын
i just bought the wand shader came with free batery like u got but shorty
@Tomvans80283 жыл бұрын
love your Chanel bro I watch all your videos I bought the exo because of the show u did doing Roman numbers
@dustinhail14082 жыл бұрын
Man idk, I’ve been tattooing with the exo for a bit now, running the powerbolt on 7 and I can tattoo 9+ hours with it no problem. Maybe you got a bad batch of batteries or something. 🤷♂️
@vinchinzo11232 жыл бұрын
Was really wanting to get the Exo! This video has made me rethink!💯
@greggrease13773 жыл бұрын
I just got mine and i just practice on fake skin its like butter on fake skin bruhh it blow my mind now in my apprenticeship im opaque black and grey and grey wash n i just got what i needed to hear for if it could line
@lukeluna37323 жыл бұрын
You don't do color with it do you suggest it? Cause I really wanted the packer but couldn't get it at the time, so got the valhalla xion eclipse and halo² but I wanted the packer instead of the axys. I'm surprised I haven't seen you giving the axys valhalla a run if you have what donyou think of it.
@frank_tattooer2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the new powerwand? I would love to see a video of it !
@chadmorrow28263 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. You said about selling your exo. Is there a reputable place to buy and sell used tattoo equipment online?
@hifi88443 жыл бұрын
What needle brands fit this wand shader?
@LeroyMustang3 жыл бұрын
So I can’t say exactly the problem with the exo but it’s supposed to excellent battery life, but with an 8 watt motor you don’t need high speeds to effectively tattoo, people work at between 6-7 watts, if you’re running above that you’re going to damage skin and run the battery out much faster. Problem I’m assuming is your hand speed which you’ve mentioned is fast before. It’s hard to tattoo completely differently if you’re used to a certain stitch speed. I’m just guessing the cause of the short battery life and skin damage. Just be aware that generally the battery life is considered exceptional and running it high and hard would likely negate that.
@roytumbelaka3 жыл бұрын
I think you’ve got bas batteries…mine works about 7 hours and my voltage is about 9,5-10volts Sent them back i would say
@kaidenrodriguez163 жыл бұрын
What do you clean your wand with bro? Lookin for different ways to clean mine
@blacksheepx31763 жыл бұрын
Thank you brotha I’ve been wondering which machine I should go for and you convinced me!!!
@DogHouseStu Жыл бұрын
I have the bishop and I love the machine but I have a lot of connectivity issues since taking it apart the wires are extremely tiny and snap fairly easily..
@leighhall35213 жыл бұрын
Ever try any Cheyenne machines?
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, have a question? Can I run the Wand shader at a lower voltage than the user guide suggest (8.5 volts)? I mean 5 or 6 volts for pepper shading or whip shading{ Awesome video, thanks.
@OLIVERAYRE2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man I’d recommend 6v
@derekink3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Have been waiting for this vid quit awhile and it’s so helpful, cheers!
@secretservice36553 жыл бұрын
just bought bishop shader, your videos are pretty much helpful for me, thank you!
@royltattooatl3 жыл бұрын
My flux last for 5+ hours I wonder if the flux and exo are that different as far as motor and battery usage.
@TsunamisZone3 жыл бұрын
The exo has the same motor as the flux
@j.cvaltierra29903 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review. Supporting the Channel one video at a time!
@jamesmanriquez3493 Жыл бұрын
Ive been debating between the shader and the packer. I think I’m gonna go for the shader after watching this
@beu25432 жыл бұрын
It’s sounds like your main issue was the power batteries ? What about the performance? What are the comparisons as far as tattooing performance?
@loyal2ink2 жыл бұрын
I own 6 Bishop Wand/Power Wands. I just love them so much I placed a new order on my shader. Kingpin has them on sale for $515.00 regular $650.00 better get'em now before they go
@tattguy6903 жыл бұрын
I agree. My critical wireless lasts for 2-3 tattoos before I have to charge. And I tattoo 6-10 hours a day. My Zion and my valahara are awesome. I may now order the wands
@sinanbiyik3 жыл бұрын
First of all thanks for the great video bro! I love your content!! But have you compared the bishop shader with a cheyenne sol nova unlimited???? I would be extremely interested in such a video like this!
@screwjack003 жыл бұрын
I very almost bought the exo machine going on your first video on it, boy I’m glad i didn’t now. Got myself the batteries from critical for my packer and I would highly recommend them.
@subwooferroads3 жыл бұрын
Fk have issues with the updated firmware which is causing battery drain
@pencilheart55683 жыл бұрын
Hahaha it's been Brilliant watching you bounce between platforms and finding what you find works best for you! Hope YT is the one brother 🙏🏻✨👑
@Santan0103 жыл бұрын
How much are u selling the Exo fr?
@energiesandvibration3 жыл бұрын
thank you i needed this, was about to buy the exo when i have all three bishops lool
@keimckeown55463 жыл бұрын
Re: battery life. I bought the spektra and updated the battery via the app, and was getting crap results as you say. Its a dodgy update that's screws the battery up that I'm unsure if they've yet to rectify. I bought another battery and didn't update it and have since been able to run it all day. Anyone else aware of the same issue?
@S1KRR_Rider883 жыл бұрын
100%
@S1KRR_Rider883 жыл бұрын
I got the flux with one battery and did the update and after not using it for the weekend it would be dead, Ended up buying the exo and two batteries on Black Friday and didn’t update them and they are great
@EmpireMongolz3 жыл бұрын
There is bishop shader and liner? So for a complete tattoo we must buy 2 machine? Or can we finish with 1 bishop liner a complete tattoo??
@simonkristiansen9603 жыл бұрын
dude, just google the machines and understand stroke.
@sushinktattoo13662 жыл бұрын
Can I just say. Bishop shader has a small 2607 motor that consumes small amounts of power. The motor in the EXO is whopping 9w. Of corse it’s going to drain quicker. The power of the EXO reminds me of how coils used to be. I never have to touch up my tattoos after I use the EXO
@travelinghearttattoos54823 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 is more of a color packing machine rather than the shader. I personally have the 2.5 and it’s amazing for greyscale I absolutely love it and I’ve never run out of battery power with mine, the most I’ve used it is 5hours though, and I’ve been tattooing for 2 and a half years so I’m not as experienced as you. I shade around 7.5 - 8 and I haven’t noticed any bruising in the healing process. I would love to try the bishop though I’ve heard nothing but amazing ness from them, so hopefully I get one in the future. Great review as always 🤩
@thomaspayet63413 жыл бұрын
Hi i would like to have more information on the 2.5 exo. I already have the 4.0 but am looking for a shader but don’t know that to choose between the 2.5 and the 3.2. Am scared that the 2.5 is too soft for me
@travelinghearttattoos54823 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspayet6341hi sure, when I work with the 2.5 on greyscale shading I find it like a pencil. It’s great for layering, and when my mentor looks at my tattoo afterwards she’s love the soft look. I guess it’s a difficult choice because we all work differently just like Oliver said, when I watched his first time using the exo I just just as excited using it for the first time, because it was a huge difference between my Fk iron, the ink go’s in like butter. And as a newish tattooed is was a good choice because of the less skin damage. I also look forward to using this machine every time I pick it up. And it’s good to have that confidence in finding the right medium for you. It’s all trial and error mate. I work slower than Oliver atm so I hope you this helps.
@thomaspayet63413 жыл бұрын
@@travelinghearttattoos5482 thanks for your reply 🙏🏽do you have an instagram so as a can see work you made with the exo?
@travelinghearttattoos54823 жыл бұрын
@@thomaspayet6341 I do I didn’t want to put it up to start as I didn’t want to pimp myself ;) but as you kindly asked me then sure, it’s lunarianart
@thomaspayet63413 жыл бұрын
@@travelinghearttattoos5482 thks 🙏🏽
@filipmandic20833 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the cheyenne sol nova ?
@pat3k0718203 жыл бұрын
Bishopwandshader my only dream machine. Only a dream🥰
@Mikaisafk3 жыл бұрын
You know you can just take the cartridge out rotate it and plug it back in and it will line up with with the leds on the power bolt……. You don’t ever need to take the battery out. Come on bro
@fuelshop47742 жыл бұрын
Which one is louder?
@rafa.blackbird.tattoo3 жыл бұрын
Eu estava esperando por um vídeo como este. Obrigado cara! Ainda gostaria de obter uma opinião honesta de alguém que experimentou o Cheyenne sol nova ilimitado 3.5 have you tried it?
@cooglamooskies20913 жыл бұрын
have you tried the cheyenne spirit?
@ryanantalek50763 жыл бұрын
do you think its better then the Cheyenne 3.5
@trilogicsk83 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried the cheyenne sol nova? Do you have opinions about it?
@corydee81873 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried inkjecta x1 ???
@yaanzola88163 жыл бұрын
What's better?
@Kashtown2 жыл бұрын
Looking for a new machine, I do alot of darker neo trad but I'm definitly looking to smooth out my black and Grey's, hard with the flux, with my style, but I'm glad my battery will last 6 hours+ I haven't updated it yet either
@sarahswann22473 жыл бұрын
Just want to say, I found if you turn the batteries off for travelling mode at the end of the tattoo, they last longer. Mine last 5/6 hours sometimes more.
@Tomvans80283 жыл бұрын
my battery lasts 9 to 10 hrs at 10v
@nathanfalco48633 жыл бұрын
I got the liner and it didn’t work half the time. Using the flux now. Love it!
@VictorMendoza-oz4fz2 жыл бұрын
What voltages do you run on the flux for lining and shading?
@Scott-YouTubeAddict3 жыл бұрын
Good comparison but surly the perfect machine must have changeable stroke lengths at least.
@artsicchannel39553 жыл бұрын
Boss, do you have signature machine?
@bostjanloncaric3 жыл бұрын
Good video,there are too many machin types available on the market. I'd love to have Bishop rotary.
@mikewoods63353 жыл бұрын
The wand is on my shopping list for sure! 😂
@paularroyo71893 жыл бұрын
Bng setup for me is the fantom or the shader by bishop I'm pretty sure they run the same motor and stroke and color and lining I use a Dan kubin dmcv2 and the neuma 4 with a 3.6 stroke but yeah my wand gets used daily so I agree it makes u use technic and not depend on a tool so much
@krowkowe8 ай бұрын
When u use your ipad or any random charger u can really easy broken fk irons battery. Thats reason why its work only 3h for u.
@jyotattoozongole39333 жыл бұрын
How price (bishup wano machine)
@djs93153 жыл бұрын
Cheyenne unlimited.. all day.. everyday.. for the last year plus.. batteries are so simple, use ine, have back up, charge other or both inbetween or after.. still running EXACTLY the same as day I got. Was an FK fan.. still am if km honest, Edge X, Xion, Flux.. but the Cheyenne unlimited does EVERYTHING I need all the time.. everyday. £950.. but that paid for itself within couple tatts.. so nice to use..
@Lumpdadabubub2 жыл бұрын
Which one do you have? 3,5 /4.0?
@youaintmyauthority47322 жыл бұрын
@@Lumpdadabubub 3.5.. bought the bishop packer since then and the battery.. between the Cheyenne 3.5, the Bishop wand packer and the Xion (with battery) set at 3.2 .. i swear I’ve found MY (99%) perfect set up.. only inclusion I may make is the bishop liner.. I was well impressed with the packer, I take back all my cynicism .. I’m sorry.. it is a fantastic machine.. the reviews look great for the liner for line heavy pieces and being able to move your hand quick on the pull, stippling.. mandalas with bigger groupings.. I like working quick.. so, think I’m sold on a bishop liner How’d you find the unlimited.. which one you get?
@Lumpdadabubub2 жыл бұрын
@@youaintmyauthority4732 I got both but i sold the unlimited, bishop packer is not so heavy and I like to see the voltage when I’m working and not guessing like on the unlimited 👌🏼
@Glug213 жыл бұрын
Here is the problem . If you put the blue tooth crap on the machine and all that jazz you messed up.. the blue tooth drains the batteries. I have the flux with 2 batteries and i get 6 to 7 hours out of it on 8 volts and 8.5 running all the time.. If you buy the machine dont mess with the bluetooth or software crap. Look into it i'm not the only one to say this.
@garcia29173 жыл бұрын
same, i have exo and flux, im not a fan of the e give, but even with the update i can still tattoo all day with a fully charged battery, but the battery will drain quicker overtime so you have to charge daily.
@Tomvans80283 жыл бұрын
wish I had the money for a bishop
@johnlittle45192 жыл бұрын
Why not try the exo 2.5 if u want the smoothest black and grey blends ,out of the exos seems like the one too go too
@ronychambipuma64083 жыл бұрын
How much it cost Oliver thé winder machine
@simonkristiansen9603 жыл бұрын
Do you not have google?
@CHUEYINK3 жыл бұрын
Sold my Wand Shader and Liner, it was the best thing I did. Just stuck with my Cheyenne machines.
@paularroyo71893 жыл бұрын
Dude the sol Nova and the bishop wand shader have the same motor I belive but I do like cheyenne I just prefer bishop cause I live in the US and bishop has better customer service
@HectorValenzuelahuglife3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the batteries on the exo. As far as shading I think it’s great. It does hit hard but it’s more of a hand technique thing. I get less passes with the exo but it takes more finesse.
@S1KRR_Rider883 жыл бұрын
The fk batteries only suck if you update them to use the e give, If you don’t update then they work better.
@vadims3312 жыл бұрын
@@S1KRR_Rider88 fk irons changed the updating app.it works spot on now.i fucked 3 powerbolts with first upgrade
@VictorMendoza-oz4fz2 жыл бұрын
What voltages do you run on the exo
@Tomvans80283 жыл бұрын
guess ill have to get a bishop
@subwooferroads3 жыл бұрын
I reckon exo running faster than shader that's what's causing your issues
@x_z0mb1_x3 жыл бұрын
That's what I think the motor in the flux /exo is running really fast even on 7,8,9 volts. 10 11 12 etc from the one I had . Would be insane.. huge difference between 9v on a flux vs 9 volt on shader wand that's like running 9v on packer wand and shader wand and being confused why one is causing more trauma .
@blainehall52493 жыл бұрын
I think you need to tell them you got bad batteries cuz I've been using those machines the Flux and the exo for over a yr now and each battery will last me up to 10 hrs and that's running it from 11am till 9pm and I do large pieces alot I have noticed though if the light is flashing more then one color it's not charging properly it has to b flashing one color
@billyrauch9203 жыл бұрын
Same thing I was thinking man I use them all day and even to charge them fully only takes an hour or hour and a half
@inkheadkustomz34442 жыл бұрын
That's the color packer exo not the shader the exo 2.5 stoke is the shader
@johnyr59313 жыл бұрын
Please can u do a liner show down or best liner..cheers bro take care
@johnyr59313 жыл бұрын
I watched the end after I commented. Basically get a wand liner too
@Stonemade_ink Жыл бұрын
Mines last about 6 hours . At 9v with my flux
@rabindra1423 жыл бұрын
Please do a review of oozy real tattoing style. Would love to hear your views on it. He has a KZbin channel by the same name.
@subwooferroads3 жыл бұрын
Check out lucegrey she's possibly lining and shading with flux at 5 volts 🔥
@elmoy57593 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro like always great video.
@DanWilson4203 жыл бұрын
The wand DOESN'T have a ratchet grip?? WTF That's almost a kill on the deal right there. I want the FK in the 4 and the 3.2, but the cost.... oh lord the cost.
@S1KRR_Rider883 жыл бұрын
Tell me why you want that combo ? Cause I have it and I’m on the fence about selling for the bishops
@dennyurie40382 жыл бұрын
I think both of them are a waste of money it's not the tattoo machine it's the person wasting all that money for a motor and a tube. I can make it happen with a tape player motor and a Guitar string and prison made ink and make it look the same as if I was using both of them tattoo machines. China is killing the tattoo game at the moment. China is making better tattoo machines with German motors Swiss motors they are killing it hands down and the price is amazing. I can definitely buy anyone of these tattoo machines but y when I am getting better tattoo machines at the right price. People are paying for the name and people think the tattoo machine is gonna make them tattoo better I promise everyone that's bullshit you got to put the work in to be the best 👌 💯 this guy is crazy....
@incognitoazzmobsta Жыл бұрын
💯💯realest thing ive seen in this comment section yet.
@teri35853 жыл бұрын
Lmao i got this recommended on a exo(korean group) page
@rasooljafari70383 жыл бұрын
Wery good. Thank you.
@Joki44883 жыл бұрын
Nice lah video ni
@Carlovbasic2 жыл бұрын
Oliver, You spending a lot of money for this Machines, Please try this , I have two like this. One battery last for 8 hrs. Please Try , make review , they work like horses. Cheers. Darek from Poland , I can't put the link, but is on Ali----xpress XNET Tattoo Equipment Store Machine with two batteries. Link on priva only
@jadeddragon42543 жыл бұрын
sol nova unlimited batteries last waaaaaaaay longer than those fk ones
@gotink6tattoos5613 жыл бұрын
I will trade you a bishop packer for it.
@TsunamisZone3 жыл бұрын
The exo isn’t just a shader it’s a liner too. I line with it just fine
@OLIVERAYRE3 жыл бұрын
The 3.2 Exo lines awful!
@TsunamisZone3 жыл бұрын
@@OLIVERAYRE what!?? How because my lines are clean with it you sure your just shaky?
@TsunamisZone3 жыл бұрын
@@OLIVERAYRE there’s videos all over of artists lining with it aswell
@TsunamisZone3 жыл бұрын
@@OLIVERAYRE in the FK description it literally says “ideal for lining, color packing and color work” 😂😂😂
@OLIVERAYRE3 жыл бұрын
@@TsunamisZone well I can categorically says it’s awful for that lol you wouldn’t pack colour in with a 3.2mm stroke machine.
@timxx35803 жыл бұрын
Bro go for the avengers 2 pro
@simonkristiansen9603 жыл бұрын
why? it's a bad machine. I had it, sold it. And i LOVE vlad blad, got all their coil machines, and other rotaries, beast machines, just not the avenger 2.
@kyleleite50303 жыл бұрын
The soft ware update for the battery is bullshit I’ll stick with coil guns no updates there unless I want a new gun
@rufdoestattoos3 жыл бұрын
The fact you’re calling it gun already shows…
@mizterJerk4LiFE3 жыл бұрын
You’re the shit dude from Bradenton florida
@Jennifercnl3 жыл бұрын
subtitle indonesia please 🙏
@Kolba_Team3 жыл бұрын
Wand have brush motor so is softer and exo is direct drive motor so hits harder that's the point and it's true when u go from inkjecta 2 wand ur work start be different in good meaning but why ur work change u must tell use and it's not machine! 😉
@krushafflee84723 жыл бұрын
Can you show all your machines you have?
@dropdeadinc.customtattoo25373 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even consider a rotary pen a "tattoo machine" and you never run a rotary over 7.5 volts And a actual shader should be 4mm+ as far as the stroke length