Beginner Liner shader tattoo machine explination

[@jadeahn4288]

By far the best and easiest to understand explanation of the basics of coil machines after all 12 years. Thank you.

[@joevromero]

By far the best machine tutorial I've ever seen! Awesome!!!! Thank YOU!

[@michaeloddo2003]

You obviously put a lot of work into this video. The computer animations are great. This is a much better idea than those videos with a person holding a machine in bad lighting and pointing in a general direction with a fat finger.I have taken college courses where the instructor did not put as much effort into their presentation as you did. Thank You.

[@kevlarguardian]

One of the most accurate and comprehensive vids around (not only the tattooing related ones)!

[@chrisrivera646]

I will DEFINITELY be referring to this video when I get my kit in the mail. I learned A LOT, and am grateful someone had the brains to put a video as detailed as this on youtube. Thanks dude, you've just answered all of my questions on how lining and shading machines operate.

[@1tattoou]

This was the best for basic information on simple setup and difference between liner shader that I have seen thanks.

[@ragerone1654]

best information ive found by far really love your approach to it as well with the animation as you explain it very well done!

[@renzbumatay6523]

thanks sir. it helps me a lot to recognize which is liner and shader thumbs up

[@MobiusBandwidth]

Very useful set up info, particularly the last bit about liner/shader set up differences, nice graphics too!

[@pankey71]

This video had been a huge help. Thank you for taking the time to make it!

[@screwgunsupernova]

this is a great video. the clearest info ive seen so far.

[@sothathappened]

I wish i could give you a hundred thumbs ups for this very informative video

[@Jvmore10]

Mr.COLTSR2 so basically put it over a barbeq grill or stove until red? and how would i clean my grips? and wouldnt it turn my stainless black?

[@jeffrey64]

Good explanation, thanks for sharing the knowledge!

[@sickspack1747]

Very well put and the animation helps a lot.

[@jdeuces69]

Good work explaining how and what a machine is made of and how it works and how to adjust gap

[@stano0o]

nice video explain the best i have seen on here,

[@Resurrection4groove]

This is the best Tattoo machine clip i have seen-really well done-is there a full dvd available?

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@8Danchi8 are you speaking of 2:27 the gap from the front spring and the screw ? it depends on the machine a liner is a short stroke 2mm a shader is 4mm but the front spring is also different and the rear spring has different amounts of tension th eliner has more tension and the shader has less .. see the video labeled "Correct tattoo machine settings"

[@mikemooney559]

This makes a lot of sense to me. I have tattoos that I did on myself with a line needle. It was difficult when it came time to do the color filling. Plus I only had line needles. But all in all my tats came out decent.

[@aaronjenkins4539]

good stuff there it is helpful for new bloods to know the gear they are working with and to know you get what you pay for in a liner or a shader

[@Z32orDIe]

best video explanation ive seen yet!!

[@italiansensation22]

Rewatch and rebuild the machine...best way to learn

[@CoCreate369]

Thank you so Fin much Mr.tattootraining ! finally i can properly adjust my machine now :D

[@Stoneyfaith1]

Amazing video mate!!! Much appreciated!!!

[@ClearSightX]

Help me out a lot... I just did my first tatto and actually used a shading gun instead of the liner. My other question i havent really looked for it, but what set of speed should i be using on lining and shading? Thanks

[@missInklanation]

brilliant graphics dude! appreciate the effort! :) thanks

[@ZIGGIEPRODUCTIONS1]

Iv only got an outliner micheen . I'm just getting bak into tattooing , but iv got bigger coils , and spare bits , but don't know if it's longer ? Very useful info thank u :)

[@gambleyourhealth]

@TATTOOTRAINING It was a basic rule of thumb, and its correct, your statements about the various shader/packer/liner/cutter completely agrees with it. As I said, in the end its up to artist preference. Ive seen some pretty amazing tattoos done with unconventional methods and weird setups. I dont know how much time you have had in this game but if you had over 20 years experience in it you would have seen the same thing.

[@cdtiedeman]

so best advice for a beginner like me is to just buy a shader and a liner until ivebecome more intimate with my machines? What is a good place to buy my equipment from? Ive found a couple but would truly appreciate your input. Thank you.

[@ccaamille_]

This video is god sent 🙌🙌🙌 thank youuuu!!

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@VVR13FLAKO the size of the line .... but for small are shading you use a 9 round not a liner , a 7 liner can be used first then a 3 to shape or sharpen a line , a shader you are referring to is a traditional medium gap style NOT a cut back . but a nickle gap with a 7 mag #10 bugpin with a medium value wash

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@xxsurcentralxx you can also get a bipolar cap so you dont have to think about this they are the ones that both wires come out of the same end 47uf 35v otherwise neg end has a grooves near the end

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@gambleyourhealth not becouse you need to realize there are 2 types of liners and shaders , long and short gap . single pass liner short gap , scultptin gliner big gap , traditional shader medium gap cutback shader short gap . 2.0mm gap singlepass liner cutback shader - short front spring .018 - .020 rear 22-33uf cap 3.5mm gap trad shader .018 front n rear 33-47uf cap 4.0-4.5mm gap color packer-sculpting liner long front .016-.018 / .018 rear 47uf cap see my other videos

[@WolfsBlood44]

Great video. Very informative. Thank you !

[@daniratm]

Is the arm bar in both machines the same height and weight? What is the angle of inclination in the front spring? I bought two springs, one front of 45 mm and one rear of 34 mm. The front wasn't bend so I bent it. It all seems correct but now I have a weird problem. The front spring is too high and the contact screw needs to be so inclined to reach it; in a 20° angle. I have a liner machine that is perfectly calibrated, like the video says, so I compared measures on both machines. The only difference that I found (besides the ones that actually have to be there, according to the video) is the height of the arm bar, being 5 mm shorter the one on my shader machine. I haven't really tested the shader machine because I'm waiting for some coils that I bought online, so I really don''t know if this difference with the shader of the video is gonna be a problem.

[@psybera1987]

@TATTOOTRAINING thanks man! i was sort of finding somethings out before i could get it. what does 8 coil wrap mean.....will it work on a machine if i make one? i mean if i purchase the machine itself and try making a coil by myself? what would be the best way to make a coil. thank man!

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

do you have a armature bar alignment tool ? may way is way easier than any other but you need this or make one out of an old screwdriver

[@tjhendrix2922]

would it be ok to use a spark plug gapper to check gaps to know exactly what my gap measure meant is

[@Dipstick14]

Amazingly helpful!

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@tigger00025 forget that..... you want to set it at 3.5 mm for your shader the liner is 2.5mm

[@Jvmore10]

to retrace it to where its dark enough witch causes more pain.. i was wondering if u could recommend a r-liner that make a good thick line the first time? and i was thinking of changing to round shaders for outlineing? wat r ur thoughts? i didnt really get ur needle vid..

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@VVR13FLAKO you need to read "Reinventing the tattoo " im sure a free pdf file can be found online there is a section about sculpting lining . the thickness of a line depends on the size of the peice and the peice it self some lines are thinner depending on foreground background or inside lines used for separation , its called "line wieght " only smaller lines can be done in a single pass

[@psybera1987]

@TATTOOTRAINING thanks man! but i dont get it......your saying the kits are junks! which machine are you using? i'd like to know!

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

obviously thi sis very basic but i put it up for the beginners who ask questions before i think they understand basic things. please focus on learning all the basics from machines to settings to sterile practices before asking me how to do something beyond your understanding. and be sure to look at my upload list for all subjects before asking about what has been covered in other videos. thanks

[@Jvmore10]

@tattootraining a 7 round wat? liner or shader?.. also i did a LA on my gf back.. i used a 5rl and a 7mag.. i did a technique that i think is called dust shadeing where i put the mag on the edge of the outline and flick it where it gos from dark to light(disappearing like) it came out alright but the 5rl is to light i had

[@Jvmore10]

@tattootrainer if i put my stainless steel tubes in a sterilization pouch will it still clean if i put the pouch in a pot of boiling hot water? or just put them in boiling hot water for that matter because money is kinda tight for me to buy a presure cooker and a auto clave especially since im not chargeing alot since im still not that good.. so wat would u recommend for my situation

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@lampweld i have a pig skin video , i suggest you first practice LINES on foam pads the colored foam pads sold in the kids art craft section , better than practice skin and cheap

[@psybera1987]

@TATTOOTRAINING is there a way to make the colour look darker.....there are some tattoes that have a really dark black colour....sometimes its really light....whats the way to make the colour dark? will that all be mentioned in the cd the kit providers provide.

[@StiffFingers1]

@TATTOOTRAINING both the liner machine and the shader machine, or can i just buy a longer spring to do the shadeing??

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@VVR13FLAKO bagging is best but if you want wipe it down with a germicide i dont know alconax , i use a simple germacidal wipe with a little barbacide . put what in a pouch ? what kind of pouch ? do not boil a machine head

[@adriancaldeira7883]

i have a 10 wrap coil... will it work perfect for linings....I am new to this! tired making a line on my arm but as I whip off once im done with the drawing a line the wound is visible but the ink wipes off! where am I making the mistake? I tried moving the machine really slow and it works 50% I cannot understand is it the speed of my hand movement or is it that I am not poking the needle deep enough....

[@JTOPETE14]

Well i got a kit with an 8 and 10 layer coil guns and am having trouble telling them apart. One machine has smaller sized coils. is that typically the 8 layer coil?

[@krazyass420]

im wondering something .. okay. so im plannin on buying my first tattoo gun coming up soon and i have searched and searched to find one i am confident in purchasing. only problem .. it doesnt come with the rubber grips, power supply or anything, just the machine itself. its a liner and a shader gun in one from what i understand. how exactly should i go about making sure i have absolutely everything i would need and THEN some. please help

[@dannyleigh09]

Thanks alot a very helpfull video and i know understand the machine in alot more depth :D

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@ClearSightX there is no set speed there are 2 types of shading and lining machines , the speed is built into the machine , if your machine isnt built for a specific function tweeking a screw is pointless

[@django2605]

Great video but i have one (maybe stupid) question. When you say the angle of the contactscrew should be between 25° and 30°, from where is that messured. On the diagram, the angle of the liner's contactscrew seems way bigger than the one on the shader. Is the "zero-line" horizontal or vertical? The diagram suggest horizontal, hence my confusion...

[@arealassassin]

Ignore that nonsense. Just make sure that your contact screw meets the spring at a 90degree angle- screw to spring. Choose spring length, and adjust binder post and screw to suit.

[@Jvmore10]

i was wondering if i can just use a chemical to clean stainless(without this whole presure cooker tech.) like cavicide or alconax? wats the use of cavicide and alconax and wats the difference?... and if i buy the pouch would it work if i put it in a pot of boiling hot water and let it boil clean?

[@jizzi2010]

excellent video

[@Jvmore10]

@tattootraining ok.. also theres a video called "how to tattoo.. words with shadeing and color" by fattasticvoyage.. i was wondering if u know wat to use for the shadeing at the end like a round shader or a mag because he doesnt write back so if u know i would be thankful

[@kozmums]

Is 38 special tattomachine build for lining and shading, like the black and gold ones?

[@Jvmore10]

@tattootraining i think u misunderstood me.. i ment wat is the difference between a 3rl, 5rl, and a 7rl? is 3rl a thiner line and 7rl thick? and also what is the difference between a 3, 5, 7, and 9 flat and round shader and their uses.. for ex: wat do i use to shade in old english, and for the smoke/fog effect shadeing, and shadeing around a name..

[@marshaspears2237]

Hi, just got a beginner tattoo set with 3 guns. Altho there are differences in the frames, the distances between the armature bar and the coil are the same. I really can't tell a measurable difference. So I can't tell if I have all liner guns or shader guns. And at this point (beginner) it's all going to be hard! Any suggestions on how to figure this out, or just go for it, learn from my mistakes (on fake skin)?

[@kldzk]

i want to buy my first tattoing equipmet as most noobs i looked up chinise kits from ebay most people say its completely shit. i was wondering does it worth taking one of these and tune it and change some parts and make it actualy worth?

[@psybera1987]

@TATTOOTRAINING ok so then if all kits are a waste thens whats good for the work to be done? there are some suppliers i came accross named eikon, hilbrandt, and some other custom made machines their all a waste?

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

actually i set alll machine at a 45 , ( i didnt make this its just a outtake of a video i though would be a good beginner intro explanation ). the contact on a shader needs to be forward becouse the geometry of the FRAME puts it there. not the angle of the screw

[@psybera1987]

@TATTOOTRAINING which tattoo kit would you advice?

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@VVR13FLAKO yes the 7rnd is a bigger "weight" line than a 3 , and you dont want to use "FLATS " you use MAGS no t the same ... a 5 mag or 7 mag is for smaller areas than a 17 mag also the needle come in different sizes standard is #12 THINNER #10 OR #8 IS FOR SHADING but for what you mentioned you want a 7 mag #10 needle it goes in a 9mag tip SEE MY NEEDLE VIDEO

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@JTOPETE14 well yah if it is a true 8 and 10 and not just some added wrapping (see my padded bra coil vid) but yah less layers is less size, but that really has nothing to do with what is the liner or shader the 8 is typically a liner and SHOULD have a short front spring , but if it was a kit it is all wrong anyway . you need to get a set of spring for both 1 set liner and one set shader 18g from infinite irons or atimemachine , then set the tension ,, lots of my vids to watch

[@Jvmore10]

i was wondering if i can use a 7rl stainless tip as a 7roundshader tip

[@naomir6125]

Very informative. Thanks!

[@HAUNTERMAKERcom]

7:03 Linners and shaders

[@PlyKraze]

Can a 12 coil-wrap gun be used for line and shading too?

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@lampweld i have a pig skin video , it is for color and shading , i suggest you first practice LINES on foam pads the colored foam pads sold in the kids art craft section , better than practice skin and cheap

[@offhostproductions]

Great resource, thank you.

[@TheDaz41]

brilliant very informative, many thanx

[@saint13503]

Great breakdown =)

[@TaylorKnightCosplay]

I'm planning to go into cosmetic tattooing in the future

[@imying72]

Out of curiosity..are you from pittsburgh pa?

[@psybera1987]

@TATTOOTRAINING when you say kits are a waste are you saying the DVDS are a waste or actually saying the kit is of a waste? i'd like to know what exactly are you talking about?

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@psybera1987 well if you are sold a junk kit that isnt properly tuned ,doesnt have the proper springs how much good information can the dvd have ? take it for what its worth but i bet you dont learn anything i dont already have up . it will show you how to put a needle in a tune and put the tube on the machine , beyond that dont expect much

[@jabari189684]

So help full thank you

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@psybera1987 im use my machines , i build my own , it depends on what you want to pay for you can go 3000.00 for one thats good to go or you can go to ITS international tattoo supply and then all you have to do is tune them by adjusting the tension or replacing the springs with the proper ones. unless you pay 200 or more per machine they will not be properly tuned but that is something you should learn for yourself anyway

[@7JDTATTOO7]

very very nice vid bro... everybody should thank u for that stuff... just had to say this when i see all the other trash in here from all these Pro`s...xD i guess u build your own guns? u sell them although? so, thats it.. keep goin.. greetz from JD Tattoo-Artist from Germany

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@edgarsanchez1904 ? a properly assembled and tuned machine . in other videos i explain how to set up both types of shaders

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@vespinozalanyi it is introduction to color by dean deak*** i forget i it from gnome workshop

[@mandy6954]

can u please tell me how to bend front springs.cant find any videos on this.thanks

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

sure why not ? you can only go so deep or you creat blow outs. inl migrates under the skin if too deep , you want enough to stick out so you can see the needle so as to monitor the depth

[@edgarsanchez1904]

what should i use for a smooth shader?

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@StiffFingers1 YOU CAN USE A 3.5 GAP FOR SHADER AND A LINER BUT NOT A 2.0 DIME LINER I BET YOUR LINER IS A DIME LINER OR SINGLE PASS LINER , THAT IS NO GOOD FOR BEGINNERS . SET IT UP WITH .018 SPRING FRONT AND BACK. 400 GRAMS REAR SPRING TENTION AND A 3.5 GAP THEN YOU CAN USE IT FOR BOTH

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@JTOPETE14 8.1 or 10.1 JK first they are not wraps , it layers a 8 layer coil can have 300 wraps , also it depends on wire size and core size . many cheap coils say 10 but are only 8 and many are uneven , the only way to know you have good coils is get american hand made 10layer coils they have 12 but a proper 10 will do any job , look up bicknee

[@Jvmore10]

i have a question.. wat is the difference between 3, 5, and a 7 round liner?and their use?.. also the difference between shaders for ex: smoke shading, shadeing around a name, and dark shading for old english? thanks to who answers...

[@TATTOOTRAINING]

@VVR13FLAKO no thats pointless, boiling is not the same you need heat and PRESSURE if you dont have a pressure cooker then use disposable or at least scrub them well and soak the parts in barbacide for 10 minutes , but even a 10lb pressure cooker used for 30 minutes will kill everything . only use sterile pouches with pressure cooker

[@MrPanda1999]

muito util essas explicaçoes, obrigado...

[@Jvmore10]

what is a good tattoo machine? cuz i bought a piece of shit $40 one and i am going to get one as a gift.. my friend said i have to buy one of atleast $130 for it to be good quality but i dont know if it should be iron broze or metal.. so what would u recommend?

[@rockomartinez1690]

Very nice video

[@JTOPETE14]

Respond to this video... what coil wrap is bigger in size an 8 or a 10

[@MarquinhosR75]

Thank you very much!!!

[@tigger00025]

n1 m8 thanx is ther any British coin ya can use that is same as a dime lol i had them both set perfectly and some tit messed it all up

[@okie_outlaw]

Very informative, thank you