7 years later, and your thoughts to help are still making a difference, Bruce. My Dad & I are in a tough spot with a car thats way too expensive; & just need it to limp along for the meantime. You helped tremendously thanks Brother!
@willd97393 жыл бұрын
Thank God somebody who made a video about removing this type of an alternator on this car that realized that removing the bottom pulley makes this job so much easier. There's some old guy that looks like he's from the movie Deliverance and he made four videos on how to remove this alternator and it was the most disturbing thing I had ever seen because every step he did including removing the shroud was half ass backwards. This job should not take any more than 2 hours even if you went for a beer run. Thanks for the video dude
@adamgraf79288 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bruce. I started replacing the alternator on my wife's 05 Sable, got everything apart (minus taking the CV shaft off) and couldn't get it out. I got frustrated, put it all together and told her to take it in. I came across your video and am willing to give it a second try to save money. I never thought of taking off the pulley. Thanks for posting!
@davidscott59034 жыл бұрын
This method was so very helpful! And just a word of advice for all the other commenters on this video that say this isn't needed, and you can just roll it, please be more specific about which direction or something else helpful, because without more information your comment is useless. The video is more helpful in describing at least one helpful way to get it out. So to Bruce, I give a heartfelt thanks for helping me so much by making this video. We thought about removing the crankshaft pulley, but wasn't sure what that would entail, and definitely didn't know that the pulley would come off of the harmonic balancer, and that it was lefthand threaded, so even if we had tried to get it off, we probably would have broke something. Thank you!
@vanmasterflash71537 жыл бұрын
Sounds way easier than any other way i've heard about. Thanks Bro!
@MrTonyBrooklyn8 жыл бұрын
Great tip planning on doing this job tomorrow when alternator arrives .Thanks Much GOD BLESS!
@carlosjuanballester4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!! It was very helpful! I was thinking about to remove the CV joint axle, but with your video it was not necessary. Thank you again!!
@davidscott59034 жыл бұрын
Same
@jonraczagain7 жыл бұрын
Bruce, thanks for your video. My daughter's '04 sable has that same 24 OHVC engine and I will use your approach when the alternator fails. Today something failed with the main pulley that is connected to the drive shaft. Motor too hot and too late in the day to do much now. But getting to it with the wheel well guard removed is definitely the way to go. Thanks also for the good manners language-wise. It's for sure a lot of folks on KZbin need to clean up their language.
@VinceYoungIsTheBest7 жыл бұрын
This is a great and helpful video. I hope Nobody else ever has to change one of these fucking alternators. The damn SOHC Tauruses are easy. DOHC engine is a pain in the damn fucking ass to fuck with, shit.
@bentnickel74876 жыл бұрын
Jason Stump If you think the DOHC space is tight, you should try to replace an alternator on the 96-99 Taurus with the V8 engine. You'll add alot of new words to your vocabulary.
@BigKWS Жыл бұрын
Good grief, at least now I know why the Ford Garage wants over $400 in labor to do this job on my 2000 Ford Taurus.
@tearzboom235 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the advice, my alternator went out today, thought I'd have to pay a mechanic, nope, I'm doing it myself, thank you!
@towmike04155 жыл бұрын
Bad ass video u explained it perfect i deffiently thought i was gonna have to pull the cv thanks for the help man thumbs up from me
@brucethemechanic27385 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jakelewis410814 жыл бұрын
Omg , you just saved me so much time. Thank you
@barry57247 жыл бұрын
The alternator WILL come out w/o removing the crank pulley. Remove the battery connector and the alt connector by rolling the alt in the tight space. Then completely roll it over towards the driver side and it will come out. The long bolt on the top rear will not come out until u roll the alt.
@brucethemechanic27387 жыл бұрын
Bart Blakely For anyone reading, Bart is correct. There are a handful of methods. Removing the crank pulley only gives you more room to operate, but is not entirely necessary.
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
Yea but its so much easier n faster to take an impact gun n socket to the crankshaft pulley n remove it in like 10 seconds as opposed to leaving it on destroying anything n everything trying to wrestle w that alternator for a very long time tryin to remove it w it jammed up in between the engine and firewall of the vehicle dude trust me ive done them both ways n let me tell u its ur best bet to take 10 seconds of ur time removing the crankshaft pulley again as opposed to leaving it on n wrestling beating ur fingers knuckles hands n arms up for hours fighting that thing just to remove it
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
This alternator on these duratec engines is about as intelligent of a design as 1500$ water pump jobs on 08 n newer sable taurus vehicles what is ford motor co thinking when it comes to designing automobiles this is ignorant design how bout if u want to change quickstruts on some tauruses u have drop the subframe on the car so theres enough clearance to swap out struts i mean ford motor co need to stop hiring idiotic people just because theyre relatives use to work there at one time see theyre great grandpa that worked w henry ford like 100 years ago n his kid had knowledge on fixing n designing automobiles this generation knows about text messaging n playing video games n that is y we have so many dumb designs on vehicles today u should never have to invest that much labor into changing an alternator struts or a water pump 😆
@riodward3 жыл бұрын
Bruce, I am having to do that job on a 1998 tomorrow evening. Thank you! I will let you know how it goes.
@SincereWolf Жыл бұрын
Good vid Bud!!
@csbennett922 жыл бұрын
Another tip as well, if you're comfortable doing it a lot of shops recommend dropping the subframe on the right side, passenger side, around 3 to 5 in. This should also give you enough room to get the alternator out of there and you should also not need to remove the harmonic balancer or CV Shaft, though some still recommend removing the harmonic balancer for space. Hoping to make a video of it today.
@willsrestorations2 жыл бұрын
Yes you can drop the subframe about 2 to 3 in not 5 in, 5 in will totally free up the subframe and that's not good for a do-it-yourselfer. You only need 2 in that's it and the thing comes right out if you angle it properly
@chrisboroff354611 ай бұрын
Hey baby you might know. Ford says you're supposed to use a timing chain lock before taking the alternator off did you have to do that? And did the car run fine after you did the alternator without putting the timing chain?
@portermatthew846 ай бұрын
@@chrisboroff3546someone is telling you storys. Timing will only be affected if you open this engine. It has nothing to do with any vehicle's alternator. Rather, the relationship between crank, cam, and distributor.
@m.mooverssr92114 жыл бұрын
Got one on the lift now 👍 thanks good vides
@kegan0144 жыл бұрын
Same Y I K E S
@davidscott59034 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@bobdorsey48 жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce, Thank you so much, worked great!
@zakkskiles8254 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video 2020 and this is still helpful
@davidscott59034 жыл бұрын
Yep!
@joeweaver99137 жыл бұрын
Tried and the crankshaft pulley proved difficult to remove, even with our best pneumatic impact wrench. My brother, in a stroke of brilliance, removed all the fasteners on the passenger side of the subframe and that dropped it enough for us to remove and install the alternator. This was FAR quicker and easier than removing the crank pulley, as the impact took those bolts out in seconds. I do appreciate the crank pulley trick, but it did not go well for us.
@brucethemechanic27387 жыл бұрын
Joe Weaver There's probably dozens of ways. When I had an Escape(same motor), I ended up unbolting one of the motor mounts to get the extra room. Alot of people have a problem with the "flip and twist" method though, including myself. This is just one more method to add to the madness.
@joeweaver99137 жыл бұрын
Had I known you would reply so quickly, I would have asked if you knew any trick to replace the power steering high pressure hose. After replacing the alternator, that hose started to leak on the fitting at the p/s pump side. No doubt I was bumping up against that hose with my wrist/forearm while wrenching the fasteners for the alternator. Replacing that hose was far more difficult than the alternator! There are two mounts for it on the firewall and everything you can imagine is in the way. I managed to remove the fastener for one of them using about 18" of 3/8" extensions on my ratchet with an 8mm socket. The other one, I could not remove and ended up cutting the old hose at both ends. The gearbox side fitting was in such a place that with the airbox removed, and sitting there on my knees in the engine bay, I would turn it about 30 to 45 degrees at a time, flip the wrench, and repeat. This is all on my mother's car, not mine...I was very glad to have my older brother's help as he is the better mechanic by far. In total we spent about 6 hours just to do an alternator and a p/s hose. On my Subaru I could have probably done all of that in under an hour because it is easy access to everything.
@brucethemechanic27387 жыл бұрын
Joe Weaver I know the hose you're talking about and congrats. My friend had a p/s leak and thought it might be that line. When I looked at it for him, I was horrified and very thankful it was not the leak. I wouldn't have had any suggestions for you. I was a heavy-duty mechanic. All of my light automotive knowledge is incidental to my extremely poor luck, and helping others.
@shimes4246 жыл бұрын
Ford service manual actually says to remove engine mounts and cv joints, then have a 2nd person lift the engine up a few inches with a pry-bar I have an 00 Sable duratec and fear the day I have to do it. I want a 300a upgrade, but I'll live with the stock 130a for now.
@bentnickel74876 жыл бұрын
Scott H Replacing the alternator on my 98 SHO. Why would you want a 300 amp output on the 3.0 engine?
@AlphaPackBoi5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I really needed this information.
@brucethemechanic27385 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@AlphaPackBoi5 жыл бұрын
My buddy just told me that if I remove the crank then I'll throw out the timing,shouldn't be a big deal
@brucethemechanic27385 жыл бұрын
Nope, not at all. It's just the pulley.
@masterpanther15 жыл бұрын
Cool I may have to do this sometime soon. I will charge accordingly! Lol
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
Great video man
@phillinarios96694 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you very much.
@portermatthew846 ай бұрын
Thanks a million. Considering just cutting a giant hole in the wheel well, I am.lol
@laiwill65772 жыл бұрын
I took off the plate right between the pully
@timofsix6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video.
@derrickgunn61733 жыл бұрын
Thank you bruh, you da man
@jeffsgarage19693 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🇺🇸
@davidscott59034 жыл бұрын
Whoever designs these should be ashamed of themselves and slapped upside the head.
@michaelcostner83752 жыл бұрын
It comes out without any of the extra parts being taken off so just take alternator loose and it will come out the bottom and go right back in not very difficult at all do not take anything else apart
@user-en4ic7vs811 ай бұрын
Good deal, thanks
@TheWaelabo027 жыл бұрын
thank you
@blankeyes1208 жыл бұрын
Hey Bruce, broke college student here trying to buck the trend and do things for himself. Managed to get the old alternator out, having trouble getting new one in. What do you mean by using an impact to get the crankshaft pulley off? It is in my way and I don't want to break anything. Thanks in advance.
@brucethemechanic27388 жыл бұрын
An impact wrench. You can buy cheap electric impact wrenches at Harbor Freight or similar stores. If you cannot find one, hard blows with a good hammer (striking the handle of your ratchet or breaker bar) should do the trick.
@brucethemechanic27388 жыл бұрын
The reason an impact is preferred is because it can deliver hard hitting blows, very rapidly. If you simply put a ratchet and socket on the bolt and try to turn it, it might turn the engine's crankshaft instead of breaking the bolt free. If you can't find a way to impact the bolt you can use a ratchet if you can figure out a way to keep the pulley from rotating.
@chrisboroff354611 ай бұрын
Hey Bruce hopefully I hear from you how did your car run after that? I was looking at the dealers manual at Kelly Ford and they tell me that I need to use a timing chain lock what is your opinion?
@brucethemechanic273811 ай бұрын
Hey Chris, removing the crankshaft balancer does not change the timing at all. The only issue you may run into is holding the crankshaft from rotating. It doesn't hurt the engine if it happens, but becomes a pain in the butt because the balancer bolt is on very tight. Using air or electric is preferable to hand tools because of this. If you are using hand tools, you just need to find a way to hold the balancer from moving while you attempt to loosen the bolt. Good luck and feel free to reach out again if you need to!
@brucethemechanic273811 ай бұрын
Oh, and the car ran just fine. I hold two master mechanic certifications, so ol' Bruce knows a thing or two about a thing or two.
@brucethemechanic273811 ай бұрын
Even knowing a thing or two, I'm describing removing the pulley, but calling it the balancer lol sorry. Just the pulley is coming off.
@chrisboroff354611 ай бұрын
@@brucethemechanic2738 Yeah I figured that out I just wanted to know how come they wanted a timing chain lock on it to do the job.
@jrjr.66677 жыл бұрын
I was reattaching the cable to the power post and tightened a little to much and the whole piece that holds the threads came out. Had a little plastic attached but any suggestions on what I can do to fix this?
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
Yup go buy another alternator
@trurobertson6 жыл бұрын
Just did one yesterday. Ended up breaking inside the engine when I tried removing it
@brucethemechanic27386 жыл бұрын
Benjamin T Robertson Oh the crank sensor broke off?
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the honest to god truth may seem offensive to you tube but its the honest to god truth
@trevorcody36543 жыл бұрын
I know a better way to take it off. Than doing all of that.
@Remiphysco5 жыл бұрын
I had 2 97 taurus sold one last yesr for 5k.
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
Ya know im sorry u tube but the truth hurts sometimes dont it u shouldnt delete comments because somebody has a very valid n honest opinion about how ford motor co is
@roberttomas52353 жыл бұрын
Idc what you tube thinks ive been dealing w ford motor co for a long time i know how they hire people n trust me when u hire people because theyre family worked there many many years ago that were good mechanics n were extremely knowledgeable about vehicles that should not qualify this generation that again knows nothing about designing nor working on these cars n trucks because they have knowledge in text messaging on cell phones n playing video games im not sure how the truth of what im saying is offensive in any way shape or form dude its the truth theres to much hiring going on out here because so n so knows so n so not because they have the skill n knowledge for the job thats all im saying do u want a mailman to operate on ur heart or a certified qualified doctor