Taurus G2C vs the Taurus 856

Revolver vs semi-auto in a budget firearm? Which do you choose? Let’s compare two of Taurus’ best sellers.
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[@LionquestFitness]

Take some time to read Greg Ellifritz’s study and conclusions carefully www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866 The study was actually from 2011. The difference in round count between .38 special and 9 mm can probably be explained by deliberation of fire vs speed of fire. You can fire a semi-auto 9mm faster. For safety and accuracy reasons, I prefer deliberation of fire, but that is my personal choice.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

i grew up with revolvers and i love them but im facing facts that im not miculek and after the riots im convinced that capacity is really the main downside to a revolver and the reload time but i love both i carry the g2c and i love it.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@joemorganeatmyshortschannel That is an educated choice. And, truth be known, with the shortage of revolver ammo for practice, it looks like I may have to start carrying a 9mm, because I can get practice ammo for that caliber.

[@joemorganeatmyshortschannel]

@@LionquestFitness thats cool man that you put these videos out there im really gonna go out and buy a revolver with the rona check i have modern gear and ammo and piles of mags but revolvers for me are a wholesome thing i learned with and they will keep me shooting longer for less.

[@GunSam]

I like to think of high capacity vs a revolver this way: If we compare to travel in a car, if we argue a G2C can travel 13 miles and an 856 can travel only 6 miles.....but then we realize no one ever travels more than 3 miles on average, and the 856 has better tires and less chance of a flat in those 3 miles, then which is better?

[@mikeseier4449]

Interesting analogy, well said.

[@LionquestFitness]

That is a good analogy. You weigh out your opportunity costs for what you realistically may face. That is always subject to time and place.

[@guerom1367]

Makes since but also u never know if u get attacked by multiple ppl u might need those extra rounds

[@caseyfryback8271]

Great points. This is probably why someone may carry a snubbie all the time, but ocassionally carry a Glock19 depending on the circumstance. Moral of the story? Stay ready my friends!

[@timbo749]

you will run out of time before you run out of ammo.- Tom Givens

[@klrjohn8550]

856 for sure. I like a revolver for many reasons carrying CCW and I carry semi auto for my job. I bought the 856 a couple of months ago and have over 500 rounds through it and am very impressed with it's reliability and accuracy. Thanks for the video!

[@LionquestFitness]

Mine is a real good shooter. I've been very impressed. I'll be working on a video in the coming months comparing it to an old Model 10 snubbie I have. Not that one or the other will be superior, but talking about the strengths and weaknesses of both and shooting them together.

[@matthewrobinson4323]

@@LionquestFitness Make sure to factor in the cost-effectiveness, and parts availability of both. 🤔

[@1982Dawg]

Great video. Want the 3” barrel 856 Defender but all gone now. I’d drop the background music

[@christophernemeth421]

I say compromise and carry both!

[@kissmyblackass]

With the price of a glocj

[@richardgonzales4815]

Best Budget self defense handguns of all time . Taurus is on a roll . I love this video . Thanks for posting .

[@joecampana3398]

I’m joe from Philadelphia! I carry 2 model S&W 60’s every day! I trust my life with these twins! And I carry 2 speed loaders and a pepper spray with a small knife and flashlight! It’s crazy here in Philadelphia these days and whenever I go out to take my wife to the supermarket or post office or whatever I never leave home without them! I’ve been trained on revolvers professionally! So for me I’m comfortable with these weapons!

[@LionquestFitness]

Hey, be safe out there.

[@MPGunther1]

Well done Greg. As much as I try carrying semi autos I always go back to my revolvers and nice shootin' too. Looks like you're ready to hit 5K in subs! Well deserved!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Gunther!

[@GunSam]

You stole my idea lol. Was going to do a G2C vs 605 video soon.

[@LionquestFitness]

Gosh darn it. I still think it would be a great video though. This one I had planned for Christmas, but two bouts of the flu nixed that.

[@PatRMG]

Pretty sure that's a good video idea either way.

[@natehayes82]

I currently have a g2c and I am thinking of getting the 605

[@tomchristian9722]

Gun Sam _Revolver Aficionado_ looking forward to that. My always gun is 605 and am contemplating buying a g2c.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@tomchristian9722 Hey Tom, both of those are good guns and a lot of people have been very satisfied with them. My 605 gets carried more than any other.

[@mariohostios]

856 my new fav for best value ccw.

[@donnawinchell908]

High Greg it's Rich from Donna Donna. I don't watch the videos anymore because it's hard to even hold the phone. But once in awhile I check out the titles of your videos. Yesterday I popped in and saw your memorial for mr holster and Donna and I just got so sad. We prayed for him and mrs holster along with Jack. We're so sorry we are having a tough time right now and can't help her out. But please send our love to her. When she's up to it one day maybe with the help of friends and his posse she could put together a DVD of his best moments. It could help with her financial situation or raise money for one of the cancer societies. His phone calls with Jack were so funny that we would just crack up. I used to show our friends and they would laugh so hard. He has given so much in my own struggles to give me courage. I remember he would go for his treatment a couple of hours away and come home and work on ranch. Like talking out trees to build a new range. He was quite a man. Maybe our politicans could take a page from his book. Have a great weekend Greg. Rich

[@MPGunther1]

😊

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks for letting us know Rich - I'll be praying for you.

[@donnawinchell908]

@@LionquestFitness it's rough when you hit 30. ( lol). Rich

[@stevelewis1221]

I have a G2C and haven't had any problems with it. Now that the 856 comes with a 3 inch barrel and front night sight, I can't wait to pick one up. I got a thing for 3 inch barrel revolvers. I know, I'm weird. Anyway, another good video!

[@LionquestFitness]

Three inch barrels make sense for concealment.

[@DanTheWolfman]

3" is the sweet spot I just made a my 3" .357 and 9mm current revolver collection the other day

[@LionquestFitness]

@@DanTheWolfman Been looking at your channel. Boy you look like Jack Dempsey compressed down to Strangler Lewis size. You'd be a hard guy to take down or box.

[@dehyrkas]

Hey Bro, just found you recently. Really like your style! Thank you!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Don!

[@dereksuddreth8672]

Great video Greg! I purchased a Taurus Stainless Steel 856 for my wife and added a set of laser grips. It's the perfect size and weight for her. She loves it, and it is great for CC.

[@bryanboard65]

A point that you make here is one that I feel strongly about as well. I don't want my weapon to, "disappear." I want that constant reminder pressing in to my back and side, that I AM carrying a lethal weapon. That it can be deadly whether in my hands, or the hands of someone who could take it away from me. Just having the physical pressure of the weapon helps keep me more alert to my surroundings. I believe that if the weapon is Too comfortable and we "forget" that it is there, that we can become too casual in our carry, and in our awareness of our surroundings. I cringe when in a gun store I hear, "Yes, with This weapon and This holster, you can forget that it's there!" I don't Want to forget that it is there, that's how accidents happen.

[@LionquestFitness]

Unfortunately there was recently a tragic case where a father wrestling around with his small son forgot it was there. Somehow the semi-auto he was carrying accidentally discharged and killed his son. I don't wish that on anyone. Thank you for your reply Bryan.

[@martymcgill1312]

I bought a G3C T.O.R.O a few months ago and plan on mounting a red dot for my 62 year old eyes. I carry a 856 every day, and I love it. I painted the sights blaze orange for my eyes, and I love that little revolver. Great video, and Taurus rocks.

[@LionquestFitness]

I painted the front sight on my 856 as well. Taurus has definitely come on strong in recent years.

[@lovethehuntOutdoors]

I own these exactly weapons and enjoy them both. We are still getting used to the revolver as it is new to us and with the lack of ammo availability and the price of ammo we haven't had a lot of practice. I've shot 800+ rounds in my Taurus millennium Pro G2 9mm and it's Never failed me in any way. It don't fit my hand like my Smith & Wesson M&P 40 cal. I shoot it much better but its larger size is hard to conceal carry.

[@Me2Lancer]

Thanks for the great advice and good shooting. I have both of these firearms. My preferences lean toward revolvers as well. My first personal handgun was a Colt Trooper 357 and I used it in combat. That said, the M856 works out great for concealed carry. I've had excellent experience with the G2C. As for use of safeties on handguns, the first pistol I carried was in the military and it was a 1911. Try caring that cocked and locked without the safety engaged.

[@ThecrazyScotsman]

Excellent video my friend. I agree on having a heavier firearm and I always practise with the safety

[@bobhartman2571]

Nicely done Greg. Appreciate you using your winter clothes to show the practicing.

[@LionquestFitness]

Well, it was cold that day anyway. But, I get tired of seeing trainers demonstrate with ideal circumstances. In reality it won't be that way. Thanks for stopping in Bob.

[@boris1970able]

Always enjoy your vids Greg 👍, I have both revolver and semi auto’s , both have their purpose while conceal carry, I have trained my self to make shot placement the key ! Most gun fights end with only 3-4 shots being fired if that ... so I think I’m good ,looking forward to your next video

[@joep4235]

I have 3 semi autos and 3 revolvers listed on my carry permit. I practice with all 6, but haven't carried a semi in 4 years. I don't like a safety on my carry gun, and I like a long trigger pull... at my age, I probably won't ever go back … thanks for the vid Greg !

[@andrewguadarrama2285]

Ever since I was about 18 and buying a 9mm semi auto, i found out very quickly I favored revolvers for many reasons. I also am a lot more accurate with wheel guns as well. I don't feel age has anything to do with it, what's practical and performs best far outweighs any other options for the average carrier.

[@YouLookinAtMe-Bro]

Very interesting brother. I liked how you did the commentary at the end. I've been loving my G2c for over 7 months. Liked and new sub...congrats on the 5 thousand subs.

[@LionquestFitness]

There is a lot of truth to that. You can buy Taurus at an inexpensive price and decide if you like a certain type of gun; then upgrade. However, there is another side to it I didn't mention that might have offended some people and that is price doesn't always equate to quality and function. I have owned three different polymer pistols from S&W: an SD9-VE, an M&P 9, and a Shield in 9. I've shot other people's Sigs, XD's and Rugers. In my experience, the G2C has been a better gun all around and is a keeper, along with my Gen 3 Glock 19. Taurus has it's dogs and rejects like any other company, but they are not as bad as some try to make out. If I were going to daily carry a polymer pistol, it would be the G2C hands down. It is compact for concealment, it is lightweight, I'm accurate with it, it holds 12 rounds, it has a safety, it has fed every round I've put in it, and I like the loaded round indicator. LOL - so you get to see the rest of the story. Thanks for subscribing.

[@YouLookinAtMe-Bro]

@@LionquestFitness Oh what a wonderful reply. I feel so much the same. Of course there are better firearms with higher quality, but the G2c is a great deal...even for twice the money.

[@richardgonzales8502]

Awesome Review on two outstanding weapons . I am a new Subscriber.

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

One day I hope to handle a Taurus. Look like good firearms.

[@UncleDanBand64]

The G2C is a great little pistol Santee but, A Peacemaker in 45 brings out the cowboy in us all👍🇺🇸

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

@@UncleDanBand64 LOL!! Yes!

[@LionquestFitness]

@@UncleDanBand64 You are going to have me replacing my double action with a single action Colt!

[@LionquestFitness]

Hi Santee - the steel snubbies that Taurus makes and the G2C are pretty good guns at a good price. I also like the Taurus Beretta 92 Clones. Before I buy any particular Taurus firearm I research what people say about them. A lot of people like and are satisfied with the aforementioned three with few negative reports. They're coming out with a three inch 856 this year, but I'll wait to see what the initial reports are before I buy one.

[@UncleDanBand64]

@@LionquestFitness lol😂👍🇺🇸

[@killfacedoom3755]

Long Time watcher Greg. First Time commenter. You're the man. I like both the polymer wonders and revolvers. I feel that a reliable gun in a serious situation is going to aid you if used properly. The important thing is that you arm yourself and give yourself a chance against a crazy trying to inflict harm on you. P365 and Taurus 856 is my rotation. Trust them both to serve the purpose intended. Stay strong and carry on my brother!! Be safe!!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you!

[@davegoodridge8352]

I remember MrHolster talking about how a long hard trigger gave him the option of changing his mind. I go with revolvers. Thanks

[@dicarlo57]

probably the best advice available on U Tube.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks dicarlo!

[@terrybarnes0712]

I just bought a Taurus 856 i love it Great Gun

[@pistolerochilensis5266]

Really appreciate you doing this video. There are so few videos that compare the Taurus 856 with a semi-auto like the G2C. I'm really thinking of getting the Taurus 856 ultra lite for a possible carry wheel gun and as a backup to my HK VP9 at home. I also own the PT111 G2 for several years. I know some people hate that gun but I have found it to be reliable and easy to shoot- the trigger is something I've gotten used to.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you. I own a G2 and a G2C. I've gotten where I like the trigger. I also like the finger pads. If you use a thumb forward grip, you can put your thumb on the front pad for a more secure grip and better accuracy. As well, the 856 would make a very good carry and back-up. At home the ultra-lite would make a good pocket carry for around the house. It was also make a good concealed carry for daily business outside of the home.

[@Tdream8]

Very nice straightforward talk sharing your insights and opinions. Thanks for comparing these particular weapons which are affordable and reliably functional. Thanks again Mr. Newton!

[@richardehringer1948]

very good video and good shooting. i still like my revolvers ,

[@LionquestFitness]

Well, unless things change drastically, that is still my preference.

[@phoenixskeptic7698]

I've got both those guns, the G2C was a holdover till i got the Sig P365. The Taurus 685 was an impulse buy that is more concealable than the SP101 3" in .327 Fed Mag. and the S&W 686+ 4" for sure.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

Enjoyed the video as always. We've had lots of rain and snow this winter so it's been too muddy down on the lower part of our property where my firing range is. As soon as it drys up I'll be down there practicing with my Taurus 856. I love the looks of yours with those wooden grips. I keep procrastinating on buying a holster for the revolver. I don't wear a belt, so that rules out lots of choices for holsters. Cheers!

[@LionquestFitness]

Yep, we've had a soggy, wet winter this year too. I'm ready for some warm weather!

[@soulesailor]

For me it comes down to sights. I love my M64-4 2" but I carry my PPS M2 because I can put tritium sights on it. I've practiced in low light where there is still enough light to clearly see an attacker but I simply cannot see my revolver sights at all. I choose tritium sights over point shooting. Great video as always, thank you!

[@LionquestFitness]

And that becomes more and more of a consideration as we age.

[@dicarlo57]

I own both, excellent guns. Sent my G2C back to Taurus due to a dead trigger. Excellent customer service....

[@willknowdoggs4764]

Good shooting and practical info, just what I expect. and get from your videos. Thanks.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you Will.

[@keithreh9338]

nice presentation; I carry a wheelie during colder months (S&W 638 airweight) & a semi during warmer months (Ruger LCP); have owned both 856 (steel & ultra lite) and G2C...neither are on my faves list yet both served me well; most of my practice is 6-7 yds (lcp) and 8-9 yds (other handguns)...use 2 hand modified isosceles, strong single, and weak single

[@paulbervid1610]

Great video, nice shooting

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Paul!

[@tomcarr4630]

Another fantastic video, Greg! I purchased an 856 after seeing your first video with it. Am so happy I plan on getting the UL version soon.

[@LionquestFitness]

That sounds good Tom!

[@jackbauer9077]

Great video! Love the wheel guns! They are my favorite to shoot

[@dbloss]

I own both the Taurus G2c and a 856 (2 inch barrel)... Both are listed by Taurus as weighing 22 ounces... Your G2c may be lighter, but mine loaded with 13 rounds of 115 gr. 9mm. is noticably heavier than than my 856 with 6 rounds of 130 gr. 38 Special... And, my Ultra-Lite model is 4.5 ounces lighter...

[@fbweaver63]

good shooting ,again. it's nice to see someone who doesn't snud their nose at the taurus. i usually carry a taurus 605 appendix on my strong/left hand side and a keltec p11 on my right/weak hand side. i bought my wife a taurus g2c for her carry. i also have an 85, i looked at the 856, and wish i had bought it instead, but wasn't sure it was +p rated as it was new at the time and i was worried about the chamber wall thickness

[@LionquestFitness]

That's why I waited on the 856 until more info came out as far as the Plus P. I like the Taurus steel snubbies a lot and I have two 605's I rotate with the three inch Chief's Special Mr. Holster gave me. Good strategy with the strong side revolver and weak side semi-auto.

[@fbweaver63]

@@LionquestFitness thank you. the snubby is the go to. if i have to defend myself with a handgun, i figure it will be real close where an auto might get out of battery. the auto is just a new york reload. i have an aftermarket 12 round mag in it that only holds 11, but with one up the spout still gives me 12 rounds. people like to trash the keltec, too, but mine runs flawlessly. it just hurts my trigger finger so i practice with thin gloves.

[@Me2Lancer]

Thank you Greg. I have the G2C and 856 and enjoy firing both. That said, I lean toward revolvers as well and it's great to have a 6 round snubby. Good shooting sir!

[@hotrodhotrod-wc3bu]

Either shots gonna take a man down .finally a video thats straight to the point. No bullshit.

[@LionquestFitness]

And that was a good compliment.

[@Graydog-sx6le]

I carried my G30 all day yesterday and then my 85 UL all day today. Will say that I felt as safe with both but was more comfortable today. I like revolvers and tend to carry one daily. Some days I do carry my SW66 but it’s still pretty heavy. The beauty of a J frame is ease of carry. Good video.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Graydog. I've got more revolver videos coming this year, Lord willing.

[@Graydog-sx6le]

Looking forward to them.

[@chrisrogers5614]

Just bought a stainless 856 and replaced the springs to a smooth 5.5 pounds on the trigger pull.like night and day.and I've carried the G2c for 2 years.more accurate with the 856 prefer it.thanks for the video.

[@bassman6619]

Trying to find a taurus 617 impossible to find. Good shooting!

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks, and yes, even before the gun and ammo shortage the 617 was hard to find. You pretty much had to order it from an online gun company.

[@CATmover1]

Philosophy of use: a purely defensive gun with unmatched reliability and stopping power that anyone from 8 to 80 knows how to use and if and when it is deployed is easier to defend in a court room... a 38spl revolver is my choice every time.

[@LionquestFitness]

Good choice.

[@MarkusCouto92]

Excelente vídeo! Parabéns! Estava a dias procurando um comparativo entre esses dois mini foguetes, mas não encontrava. Infelizmente ainda não tem um vídeo brasileiro assim. Mas o seu vídeo ficou muito legal, os tiros e a apresentação do agrupamento. O 856 é a minha escolha! Brasil!!

[@LionquestFitness]

Obrigado

[@jeffpaul8260]

Quais armas você está autorizado a comprar no Brasil?

[@jeffpaul8260]

Eu tenho essas duas armas e acho as duas excelentes! Eu normalmente carrego o 856

[@fuzileironaval1808]

Aqui na loja da Academy, no Texas ela custa $329.00 estou tentado a comprar. Ainda não tenho nenhuma Taurus, só confio nos revólveres deles.

[@GregoryBrown6283]

Hey Greg Another great video thank you very much! I carry a Taurus model 85. My birthday is coming up in March and my wife is giving me one of the new model 856 revolvers. Looking forward to taking it to the range and having that extra round. Have a great day keep up the good work

[@LionquestFitness]

What a nice gift! I bought one of the last 85's sold and gave it to my youngest daughter back in the fall.

[@GregoryBrown6283]

Lionquest Fitness that’s too cool. I know she loves it

[@GregoryBrown6283]

Hey Greg I have a quick question. The Azula holster that you’re using for the 856, is that the holster that design for the model 85? And if so it looks like it fits really well for the 856. I have that same holster for my 85 and that’s why am asking. Thanks for your quick reply‘s

[@LionquestFitness]

@@GregoryBrown6283 It should fit, but it will stretch it out some.

[@chrispuckett5138]

Thank you very much for the video, could you do a video on holsters and what to look for in a holster?

[@LionquestFitness]

Mike - I put that on the back burner to simmer. I think that would make a good video. Holsters have to fit the gun and your body type. As well, a seemingly well made and expensive holster may fit like crap; yet a cheap holster may work very well. You also have companies that do well with one version of a holster and that style just doesn't work for another handgun. So I'll be working on it.

[@chrispuckett5138]

@@LionquestFitness Thank you sir.

[@bigal2696]

You always give us plenty of common sense and practical information.

[@LionquestFitness]

I try Al. As I said to you yesterday - I try to present things ordinary, everyday people can use. Thanks for commenting.

[@Leverguns50]

Great video as always you brought out several good points, One very important point you bought out is not everybody is rich and can afford those expensive guns, I’m a revolver Guy myself but I do carry some automatic sometimes

[@LionquestFitness]

If you need a firearm - you need a firearm. I get ill at the people who expect you to go out and immediately pay for the more expensive firearms. "What's your life worth?" Well it is worth a lot to many people, but so is having a roof over your head and food on the table for your family. If you are going to buy a gun, you also need a good holster and ammunition to practice with. If you live in an urban or suburban area; you'll also have to pay for a range to shoot at. There is more to it than laying out $500 to $600 for a new gun.

[@Leverguns50]

Lionquest Fitness I remember growing up it was hard enough to get food much less extra expensive firearms, if it wasn’t for deer meat, I would’ve went hungry a lot more, never believed in living off the government. I remember using a charter arms bulldog for years for self-defense and also a Colt Walker replica, I agree the key is just to be good with what you have, I wish more people would pay attention to the knockdown power versus the capability of the magazine like you brought out

[@DanTheWolfman]

Nice vid Greg....though ballistically w good ammo 9mm way better then .38 imo...up to the person to put them where needed. Ie .32, .22 boom headshots in that study. 692 (my review set for next thurs 12th) then g2c then 605 then 856 for me. Hoping by next year a g3c w better trigger would be nice, though I'd lock tight my safety always off or disable myself.

[@jeffcolwell7391]

Found the study very good thanks for posting it read part of it like what he came up with

[@markedman3990]

Great video Greg! Very informative! 👍

[@garageguy879]

another excellent video Greg.As far as having a manuel safety on a firearm,it's never been a problem for me as I have semi autos with and without those safetys.I also train using the safety,it's a very important part of the training.I'll carry a semi auto for a couple of weeks then I'll change up to a revolver.

[@LionquestFitness]

And that is good advice.

[@Revolverguy38]

Excellent video my friend, keep em coming

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you Michael.

[@Revolverguy38]

@@LionquestFitness You bet brother

[@anonymouslegion4928]

I’m fine with modern Taurus guns in general and hard to beat the lifetime warranty. My lady and I own g2c’s and a couple spectrums and we edc. I also own a bersa thunder 380 along with a lcp2, we can’t wait for our local shooting range to open. Great video sir.

[@johnnymccann5607]

as a reloader of 42 years, gun trader in my experience with semi auto pistols some you may have to shoot 2,3,5,7 different brands to get the load that shoots flawless and accurate, revolver not much issues . unless you reload or not the best option is 9 mm pistol and 9 mm revolver. What don't work as flawless in pistol shoot in revolver and problem cured and a good excuse to have to guns different in same caliber , with ammo prices as is very smart option. nanna and papa wishing you well

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you for your insightful comment. Tell Papa and Nana I said hi.

[@jeffreymorris3002]

I’m waiting to buy one until they release that 3 inch model it’s literally going to be my EDC until I’m 50 I can already tell

[@copierdude78]

Ive had a deposit on the 3" ever since the day after shot show. I cant wait. Almost ready to get the UL 2" just to tide me over because I'm getting impatient :)

[@jeffreymorris3002]

Brian Mays which one did you put a deposit on because I’m hoping they’ll release a plethora of models like the 856

[@copierdude78]

Jeffrey Morris originally the 3” ultra light, but actually changed my order to the tungsten cerakote because I don’t intend on carrying this and liked the looks of the wood grips and the heft of an old school revolver.

[@oceaniceos]

I have both guns except my 856 is the ultra light version. What I think a lot of people miss is that police officers who carry a Glock, actually have a safety. Its called a security holster. My department let us carry a Sig 226 or a Glock. I went with the DA/SA Sig in a security holster of course.

[@LionquestFitness]

Sorry to respond so late, but FINALLY someone else makes that point about the security holster. There would be many less accidental discharges with striker fired guns if folks would realize that.

[@toddcox8436]

Great video. Thank you for the comparison.

[@jeffreybeigie5244]

Just discovered your channel. Great Video, really enjoyed it. One thing on capacity folks ought to keep in mind, in many States, you aren't allowed over 10 rounds. If you live in one of those states - and I do - the difference is much less between the two.

[@LionquestFitness]

That is a good point Jeffrey.

[@gregb6469]

Nice-looking grips on the revolver!

[@cobra.3886]

Hey Greg. How’s it going .? I really enjoy a revolver. I carry apendix . I really like to carry my Taurus 605 But I can’t find the right holster for iwb. Also the factory rubber grips hold up my clothes, (I can’t see myself paying to price online for the wood grips on Taurus website). So that puts me in a position where I find myself carrying my Kahr MK9 or CM9. So going back to what you spoke about stopping power . The truth is .38 spl or especially 357 mag have more stopping power then 9mm . But where a 9mm lacks stopping power it has a advantage of reloading faster and higher capacity as well. And with 9mm they make some really small firearms , like the db9 . Living in Florida ,size matters for sure especially in the area I live . We have lots of Yankees during our summer times . the right holsters makes a big difference .Will thanks for the video and the time to read this message.

[@code9guy988]

Look into the the Blackhawk A.R.C. holster for appendix carry. I carry my 605 in that daily

[@cobra.3886]

CODE 9 GUY thanks I will.

[@Dr.Pepper001]

Watch out for those Yankees, bro. Some of them faint when they see a handgun. Lol

[@LionquestFitness]

@@Dr.Pepper001 LOL - but not all are snowflakes. I had a great great grandfather captured at Gettysburg by some of those Minnesota good ole boys.

[@bruced.370]

38 not more powerful than 9mm. 357 is but not 38spl

[@ThePreparedNorseman]

Good video Greg, and sound advice!

[@LionquestFitness]

Hi Fredrick - thanks for stopping by.

[@Icarryone]

I won't shoot an assailent more times than necessary - by the way, "Old Necessary" just happens to hold ten rounds. 🤠

[@LionquestFitness]

LOL!

[@Icarryone]

@timmybmn A 10 cent royaly will, of course, be applied everytime you use it. PayPal will work just fine Tim. 👍🤓

[@PatRMG]

One consideration about tight groups when you're talking about self-defense.... We all wanna make clover leaf groups, but if you're stopping an attacker don't you wanna spread out some tissue damage?

[@LionquestFitness]

I had to think about that. It depends. I tend to go for center sternum because that is the most likely target to disrupt the respiratory, circulatory or neural-muscular systems. Now recently I went shooting with a former student who is an infantryman serving in Afghanistan. I noticed he shot fast and hit the target, but had a spread out group. I asked him about that. He said that in the army they didn't care about precision shooting; only that you hit the target and hit a lot. Now for the military that makes sense. However, for citizen self defense, because we not only have to stop an attack, but have to worry about stray rounds hitting innocent bystanders and whether or not our round count could be judged by an over zealous prosecutor, I'd go with more precise shooting.

[@totizabayle377]

I think it's a toss up, but although I like my PT92 ,Beretta and Browning HP, I am always partial to revolvers. Nice shooting Greg.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thanks Toti.

[@hpgproducepatch]

I really like you 856. I need to get me oneof those. Despite the advantages of a semi auto, I’m a revolver guy too.

[@LionquestFitness]

My philosophy is carry for the situations you could face. Most times it's steel and wheels, but depending on where I'm going, it could be my Glock 19.

[@pinslayer4579]

In my opinion human nature is if you have more rounds you would tend to use more rounds. The G.I.'s in Vietnam kind of proved that theory Nam had the highest round per casualty count of any conflict. I believe that Greg's markmanship is the best example here because in the civilian world more rounds fired means a higher possibility for collateral damage and no responsible armed citizen wants to wound or kill an innocent by stander. End game place your rounds properly don't panic and do a frantic mag dump cause we are not Paul Harrel ( a real operator )

[@LionquestFitness]

Marksmanship? What's that? Joking aside, thanks for that comment. Marksmanship does seem to be a neglected concept in this day and time.

[@hotrodhotrod-wc3bu]

Thats because most of the time we,couldn't see the enemy so we just sprayed the hell out of any damn thing that moved until it didnt.

[@LionquestFitness]

@@hotrodhotrod-wc3bu Well, that's one way of solving a problem.

[@stevenblair8624]

If you can find one try the 3” version of the 856 I think it will exceed your expectation. I carry the 856 3” with 38 spl +p for the knock down and the G2c as the backup with the 20 round clip from Sig Sauer for when things really go to s-f!

[@LionquestFitness]

Sounds like a good combo.

[@fishersofmen4727]

Can you post a link to those grips if you got them online, I really like the look of them.

[@LionquestFitness]

Search ebay for Taurus 85 wooden grips. There is a manufacturer from Thailand.

[@DanTheWolfman]

U also bring up good point re rate of fire ie or split times....w 7 hot .357 I'm prob more likely to make my shots sound at about a .33 split....lightweight 9mm and .45 I'm about ..20-21 splits I did comparison video

[@mkshffr4936]

For me it is the 856 hands down. If I were to get an auto for a backup it would be something like a Bersa Thunder Plus or perhaps a Beretta model 81.

[@stewpidasso288]

A like and a comment to help the channel.

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you Stew!

[@PatRMG]

Those go a long way!

[@Jim-oo7dk]

You've said it a bunch that revolvers are inherently more accurate, and if someone watching you hasn't shot a revolver, they should try it. The recoil might be slightly more harsh on a revolver, but nothing bad. I'm just carrying regular pressure .38 Special Hornady Critical Duty.

[@LionquestFitness]

That's a solid round for self defense and not that less hotter than the plus P version. A snub revolver is excellent for point and shoot out of concealment, which is what you need for close quarter self defense. Not many semi-autos excel at that, albeit you can train yourself to do it.

[@tylermorrison7051]

Greg, I think I spotted some speed loader pouches on your belt. What's the brand, and are they made for HKS? Thanks.

[@LionquestFitness]

They're generic leather pouches I got from Cheaper than Dirt. They look good from a distance, but not the best quality.

[@brianmiller3349]

Hi Greg. Nice video as always. I'm about ready to purchase the Taurus G2C. What holster are using to conceal carry it? Is it the same one you mentioned in your video?

[@LionquestFitness]

Hi Brian - that one was a lucky find. It is a Tagua I found on e-bay. Checking their website, it doesn't look like that make that model anymore. If so, is a shame because I really like that holster. If I ever decide to go completely semi-auto; that is the rig I'll carry.

[@brianmiller3349]

@@LionquestFitness thanx Greg

[@matthiasthulman4058]

@@brianmiller3349 not sure if you're still looking, but Vedder makes a range of kydex holsters for the G2C. I have the inside the waistband version and it was $50 on sale. It is the best holster I've found so far, plus they take care of you if anything is wrong with your holster

[@dannysmith6035]

Like my new taurus 856 completely staying under my bed and for conceal. 🔫

[@donnawinchell908]

P.S. I really miss you all. Rich

[@LionquestFitness]

Hi Rich - how have you been?

[@wpax2k]

Great video and information. BTW the holster is pronounced Tag--wah. no offense I am a Taurus man. I have a G2 Millenium and is excellent. No mishaps in over 1500 rounds. An 856 is on the way home as a swop for a defective Rossi revolver. You made me even more eager to get this pistol. Thanks again.

[@LionquestFitness]

I like a Taurus guy. If you don't subscribe already - check out the Taurusarmed.net forum.

[@dangerman007]

Bottom line it boils down to personal preference. Find out which one works best for you, train realistically, and you are good to go.

[@michaelschaffer5984]

As far as the weight comparison. Does the G2C fully loaded weigh less than the 856 fully loaded?

[@LionquestFitness]

No. It weighs roughly 2.5 ounces more. Roughly 25 ounces to 27.5 ounces. The rough weight of a 158 grain .38 special versus a 115 grain 9mm.

[@dano1956]

I carry a 85 and a 856, if I am in a dark spooky place my glock 19 with 3 mags are with me as well

[@jorgeaquino3652]

Great video, realistic use, tks for sharing

[@dilbertbob5420]

Great shooting Greg. You must be better with the revolver because, in watching you squeeze off rounds, it doesn't appear that you stage the trigger prior to the break before pulling it all the way back. Its something I've been working on.

[@LionquestFitness]

It just takes time and practice. I work on dry fire a lot with those Taurus' since they don't have the firing pin on the hammer and dry fire shouldn't affect them.

[@chrisbatten2432]

Where did you find the wood grips for the 856?

[@LionquestFitness]

Ebay - search wood grips for a Taurus 85.

[@django7342]

What would be a decent holster for appendix cary on a Taurus 605 snub?

[@LionquestFitness]

I'm not much on appendix carry, so I couldn't say. Also I'm not sure that any manufactures make specific appendix carry holsters for snubbies. They do make inside the waist band holsters though. Alien Gear and Simply Rugged are two that come to mind.

[@theepicgamerultimate4831]

Well once again another interesting video and some dang good shootin. I noticed your reloads were a lot quicker with the auto, my opinion perhaps if you were right handed your revolver reloads would be quicker. As for the G2c I had a G2s I didn't like the trigger well my next step was a bad one. Got myself a Glock 43 I couldn't get a good purchase on that gun, drawing from the holster, the Taurus was able to draw and shoot better. The Glock 43 went and since the 856 has no hammer lock I decided to try it and I'm glad I did. Like you I'm a revolver guy, yes I have autos too. My 1911 is a range gun and I enjoy shooting it. My Glock 19 gen3 is my go to gun for auto pistols, it conceals well in not so hot weather it's accurate and RELIABLE and once again the only auto pistol I would trust my life to. I also have an Advantage Arms 22lr. conversion unit so I can shoot 9mm and 22lr. out if the same gun.

[@LionquestFitness]

You are probably right about being left handed and loading with speedloaders. Smaller snubbies have always been an issue for me. I don't seem to have the same problem with K frames. I like shooting 1911's as well, but would have to practice much more before I felt comfortable carrying one on a daily basis. I hated the G2 trigger at first, but after I got used to it, I got to liking it. Like you my Glock 19 is the go to semi-auto.

[@espartano940]

Parabéns pelo vídeo, seria interessante a comparação da g2c vs RT 856 de três polegadas de cano ,com certeza aí nos USA deve ter o 856 de três polegadas !

[@LionquestFitness]

Eles são muito difíceis de encontrar agora por causa da pandemia.

[@jeffpaul8260]

I have both of these firearms and carry them both (not at the same time) depending on situation, however when using an Autoloader I typically carry my Kahr cm 9 or my SCCY in 9mm. The sccy has a revolver like trigger pull and second strike capabilities. I usually find i really dont need the high round count and favor my 856 or kahr cm 9.

[@caseyfryback8271]

Sounds like you would love the Walther P99c, if you don't already have one.

[@YellowHammer26]

Great video, I think you would of stopped the threat with either. To me it's just a matter of which you prefer. I carry a m&p shield in 9mm or a s&w model 437 j frame. I like carrying both, but have to admit I really love revolvers.

[@LionquestFitness]

And realistically it comes down to what you like best.

[@richardhaas9519]

I have an 856. Where did you get the wood grips?

[@LionquestFitness]

Check on e-bay for wooden grips for a Taurus 85.

[@danbailey5613]

Greg I am considering the 856 revolver for home defense. Is a snub nose good for the distances involved or would a longer barrel be better since concealment isn't a concern. I would stick with 38 ammo. Is this a good choice or is there another 38 or 357 you'd suggest.

[@BigBossJ]

Don't get a short barrel for home get at least 3 or 4 inches

[@lfader]

Good comparisons! 👍

[@LionquestFitness]

Thank you!

[@lfader]

@@LionquestFitness I'm picking up my 605 next Tues (Commiefornia) and wanted the g2c but hard to find off roster always see the 856 but like the .357 - waited since last November black Friday at my local JUST came in can't wait. For around the house sweatpants a 2-in snubby just seems practical. My g19/ 26 / 29 fit the Levi bill so a big boy's "Derringer" is perfect wheel protection! Thanks again! 🇺🇸🗽

[@LionquestFitness]

@@lfader The 605 is one of my favorites.

[@-Wolfgang]

The new 856 Defender in three inch is going to be a huge seller for Taurus. Watch for S&W to follow suit.

[@LionquestFitness]

The only thing I'm leery of with the new defender is how sturdy that fiber optic sight will be. Ironically, I was working with my Model 10 snubbie this afternoon and thinking how I wished S&W would come back out with the basic Model 10 and Model 64 with two and three inch barrels again.

[@jeffpaul8260]

Have you ever tried the SCCY CPX2 or the new DVG with electronic site? While I love my Tauruses, I also have had very good success with the SCCY. It also has the double strike trigger but the trigger pull is similar to a revolver.

[@LionquestFitness]

That is a good question. I'm not real big on the electronic sights, but sometimes your opinions change. I did handle a SCCY at the range the other day and it did appear to be well made. It doesn't take a lot to make a polymer pistol and with Glock's patents having run out, more and more the pricing will drop with the major brands as people start gravitating to less expensive firearms. Or, at least that is what I see.

[@jeffpaul8260]

@@LionquestFitness They also,make,the,dvg without,electronic sites.

[@stephen8433]

Good video. Please tell us how the trigger of the G2C is different from other pistol triggers and what the pull weight is. Thank you.

[@LionquestFitness]

That I couldn't tell. I don't have a Lyman trigger gauge. It is a similar trigger as the PT111 G2. I hated that one at first. You've got a lot of take up and then a break. But then I got to liking it. I was going to do a comparison of the G2 and the Shield this summer, but never could get the Shield to perform like I wanted and I didn't want to upset Shield fans by the G2 running better for me.

[@stephen8433]

@@LionquestFitness 10:4! Thanks. Steve