Taylor Twellman: 'We cannot do soccer the American way' | SVP | ESPN

After his viral rant, Taylor Twellman tells SVP that he "feels worse" about the circumstances surrounding the USMNT not making the 2018 World Cup, blaming the country's "arrogant" attitude toward the sport as a primary reason for the struggles.
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[@pauldby1479]

"we dominate in all the other sports" .......err the ones that no one else plays?

[@ihatezen]

Dumbass

[@j.l.3685]

Steven May face it scrub...USA rules the world

[@kerplunc9192]

Silly Scumbag they won't for much longer if they continue the way they are going

[@ilovemanunited6179]

Basketball is played worldwide and there is a World Cup for it. Also baseball has an international competition, along with hockey.

[@tylerdurden786]

ilovemanunited There's a world cup for basketball? Really? Never heard of it. Goes to show how little people care about "American" sports.

[@kjhlkyu]

"I've never seen a bag of money score a goal" - Johann Cruyff

[@curlyfry3049]

What does that mean ?

[@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073]

Messy Marv you can’t buy talent

[@curlyfry3049]

@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 👍

[@davidbaird2211]

Cruyff of all people would recognize that footballing cultures grow out of farsighted coaching and tactical knowledge. America has, for all the money that's been spent on players, a lack of FIFA-certified coaches, and that to me is the single biggest reason they underachieve.

[@isuckdickbecause3752]

@@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073 Please tell me your names a joke.

[@chefawkes]

It's simple. Start soccer programs in the hood.

[@anneb889]

Lol, very true. Sometimes land for field space is hard to come by. The other issue is since soccer isn’t as popular/doesn’t pay as well, it’s not seen as “a way out” like basketball and football are.

[@jamieanderson3475]

Football ⚽️ is definitely a way out , maybe they wouldn’t get paid as well in USA but if they came over to Europe they would be paid very well , or at least be able to make a good living , we have 4-5 divisions in England alone with 20+ teams with squads of 25+

[@smithnwesson990]

@@jamieanderson3475 whats funny is apparently Europeans think that soccer in the US is popular. Its not. Its one of the least popular sports to play. Never will be that popular

[@jamieanderson3475]

That’s totally false , we know what the big 4 are , I’m making the point if someone became a good ⚽️ football player , they could defiantly make a great income , and with the amount of football teams worldwide theirs a lot more demand , it would be a better option

[@deaundrebondscheeks2]

Exactly! Just like Brazil and other nations

[@davidcanarte5330]

If U.S. soccer keeps on relying on suburban middle class kids who see the sport as hobby and not as a potential profession ... the US won't ever make it. However, I also see that football (soccer) is catching fire like never before. Finally, not getting into the world cup happens to anyone... the US should accept that losing is part of life.

[@afk7144]

It's the best thing that's ever happened.

[@beezelsub]

💯

[@raulruizdevelasco6215]

But Concacaf is such an easy qualifying zone.

[@beezelsub]

@@raulruizdevelasco6215 getting tougher

[@m.c.martin]

Raul Ruiz de Velasco USA Road Record in 2018 WCQ; 1W-4D-3L, that lone win, was against St.Vincent and the Grenadines, a team everyone in our group thrashed

[@TheSilDante]

He's 100% right. Football isn't an American sport, that's why it can't be done the American way. There is not thing like tanking in Football, If you're bad you usually stay bad or get even worse. The US needs to adapt a system of scouting and development similar to Europe or South America. They should get rid of the draft and Clubs need to develop their own players. They need youth leagues and good coaches. And the most important thing is they need to change the MLS. Teams need to be relegated if they suck. America needs to understand that in Football you're aren't getting rewarded for being bad, you get punished instead.

[@MsMrapplepie]

The American system is flawed because we don’t train our youth like we do for football, baseball, and basketball. If we trained kids the same way we did for those sports, and actually paid decently, then maybe more youth would play He sport.

[@ivanvargasheaven]

Silvio Dante 👏

[@The2002Slayer]

honestly im Canadian so i cant speak for Americans but atleast here ive seen and experienced the level of intensity of training for soccer with academy teams. traveling to England for tournaments or being recruited to go play in Portugal for sporting academy. with all of these things ik Canada wont be winning a world cup probably ever but i like our chances for qualifying in maybe ten years to twenty years time and i doubt its much different in the USA so i think the next generation has more in-store for the soccer world in North America were not just Mexico is great but the USA and maybe even Canada im the future

[@dedeecdralexandre7097]

You nailed it. Absolute on the money. The college, drafts, those things don't work in football. If a team is bad they will continue being bad, there's no such thing as tank the whole season to maybe get a top pick. Pathetic

[@VitorRedes]

The draft is good for sports. I'm Brazillian and we don't have a draft here. I think north americans don't care much for football, it's an organical problem and this will not be solved by changed the way you think sports. The draft may not be well suited for football because you need 30 prospects to make 1 right. It's not like american football or basketball where you have absolutely studs waiting to get drafted. Again, this suits with the fact that americans don't give a damm about football and... there's nothing wrong with that. I personally think the way you do sports is amazing, the way we do (Brazil and Europe mostly) is horrible and turn teams into money wash machines where the midia dumps all the money in bigger teams and all the good telents go where the money is.

[@tobeast17]

You find the real soccer players in the streets

[@jeffzalonka]

tobeast17 Can’t if you require their parents to pay thousands of dollars.

[@ghanaboy20]

tobeast17 that's exactly what I'm saying. There are kids in the streets that can play to the level of Messi or a Neymar maybe with the proper training and coaching, but won't get the chance to play at the top level because of this pay to play system smh. They picked Neymar off the streets and took him to an academy....Ronaldo too. I'm not saying suburban kids can't play soccer but the kids on the streets have more to play for and fight for. It's their way to live if they get the chance to make a living. There are lots of Latino, African and other immigrant kids as well that don't get the chance

[@joaquinarchivaldoguzmanloe1073]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@MrMuaythai84]

thats the problem usa street has no soccer only basketball and football

[@EuroGupper]

tobeast17 Football* (corrected)

[@CriticalRoleHighlights]

In Europe we refer to the MLS as "the European retirement league" since that's where European star players go to retire because they don't have to work as hard due to the skill level being much lower and and they still get paid a ton of money for it. If there's an American player who has the skill to play at the top of the game he's going to Europe. Not that it's happened very often, but still.

[@Kimmy_95]

Critical Role Highlights EXACTLY.....WELL SAID. I guess that's why some make jokes about Zlatan. I don't condone it but oh well.

[@donniedouglas6837]

Yeah in America we also see it as a European retirement league.

[@quinn3110]

Tbh

[@MrOnetamad]

hahahahaaha

[@carlosverajr2544]

Donnie Douglas as a Galaxy fan I can agree with you

[@ianstephenson9721]

Twellman is the only American who knows what he's talking about

[@harryrocke2762]

He said America have the most resources in football, he thinks America could get to the World Cup semi finals and that they were close to bridging the gap between them and Belgium and Argentina. He has no clue what he is talking about.

[@cameronjohnson2715]

Harry Rocke we beat belgium in 2014 if chris wondolowski didn’t miss a rebound tho

[@harryrocke2762]

Cameron Johnson that’s exactly the point though. You lost the game and missed a rebound you’re not nearly a good enough team to compete with Europe and Latin America you’re team is terrible and you lack good management and coaching

[@cameronjohnson2715]

Harry Rocke obviously we aren’t as good now but clearly we almost closed the gap in 2014, plays like that can easily go either way

[@derpanzer5219]

Cameron Johnson lets just face it and say the US just needs to stay out of the World Cup so they can stop humiliating themselves until they make more leagues outside the garbage MLS and make youth Football(soccer) less expensive. Until then real talent will go play for other countries and other better leagues

[@Jonalexher]

I lived half of my life in Argentina and half in California and I can tell you all exactly why the US is not good at soccer. In Argentina, like in many other countries around the world where the main sport is soccer (football), you call your friends over to play a 5v5 game on the weekend or during the week after school, or during school, every day without exception, basketball, tennis, boxing, rugby etc are all seen as "alternative" sports, but if you don't know how to play soccer you are "weird" because you should because it is the culture in most of the world. Now going back to US, most of the soccer you see here is very organized and formal, for example high school teams with uniforms, or as a young kid in Sunday leagues and stuff like that, the culture of playing in "the streets" with your friends does not exist like it does for basketball for example. In Argentina, if you're talking to your friends after school and you see a bottle cap on the floor, 90% of the time someone will start playing around with it and trying to kick it between your legs or stupid stuff like that, that simply does not exist here and maybe will never exist in the USA.

[@jefketheboss4009]

Jonalexher Thats a real good comment!

[@dkm6613]

Thats an excellent point , im european and its hard to put into words. Its like intrinsic to the culture almost like its somehow been engrained in the dna over the past 100 plus years. The actual 90 minutes of football on a saturday or sunday or through the week with the european competitions are just 1 part of the actual gravity football has over people all over this continent. Its beyond a lifestyle. It pulls religion , politics , business all into it. And like you said , when i was younger it was every lunch time from being 5 or six year olds with school shoes and school trousers and the whole shit. Playing on concrete in the playground , school bags for makeshift goals and honestly not even knowing why , but loving it. Pure compulsion.

[@kattharsismic]

That's a very good point. I'm from France and now live in Montreal, as a kid I would play football every day at school and after school, we would play with just any kind of ball, we even played football with rugby balls sometimes. I'm actually far from being good at football by French standards, yet when playing in Canada or in the US I always find myself to be among the best on the pitch. A sport grows with children having fun doing it. Take ice Hockey for exemple, I played goalie in a club when I was a little kid in France, I was quite good, yet when I play with my mates here in Montreal it's like I've only been playing Hockey for a month ! That's because growing up I could only play in the rink with the club while my friends from Canada could just play Hockey outside.

[@user-co1gi7yd2r]

Jonalexher european football in general is alot more organized-styled than american and they do better

[@javierpacheco8234]

yeah but if i play on the street i might get hit with a car. i lived in ecuador and i played in the street with neighbors. when i arrived to NY kids don't play soccer in the street. only me and my ecuadorian neighbors but in the sidewalk but that's it.

[@gaige14]

this man has been on a rampage the past 48 hours

[@ademirsegura6307]

GAIGE taylor shoulda choked the life outta bruce in 06 for the snub

[@NosyFella]

Big fan simple mike

[@cedric64]

running riot

[@BourneIdentity45]

lmao so true, mans been going around all of the sports networks ranting the same exact thing

[@davidvega9421]

That's the problem , America should be like this guy ,Filled with rage for world wide embarrassment . You guys don't get it football is more than just another "sport" it's fucking life

[@abanjoplayer]

this is the first time I've been impressed with a US football pundit. Fair play

[@MaLTRaiN]

'We cannot do soccer the American way'... THANKFULLY!!!

[@tysswe1]

Stop playing soccer, and start playing football, and maybe you have a chance.

[@thomasoftorquemadamcdxx171]

*World Football*

[@deaundrebondscheeks2]

It's the same sport

[@allanvictor9061]

Hahaha

[@3dsaulgoodman43]

This comment doesnt make sense. There are at least 6 other sports called football.

[@seananthony7494]

We do, why do think every Super Bowl is held in here in America😎

[@MustafaAhmadahmadmawia]

This was amazing Taylor was spot on. They need to make soccer more accessable to poorer kids. As long as you have the preppies playing soccer we will always be in the basement.

[@ilovemanunited6179]

Mustafa Ahmad the attitudes of men's soccer in this country is terrible. At the the high school level, kids are so cocky. I play basketball now and the kids I play with are not a bunch of arrogant tools. The girls that play soccer are not so high and mighty, which is probably why the women are so much better. The boys that make a travel or high school soccer team, seem to become possessed and they think they're better than everyone else.

[@MustafaAhmadahmadmawia]

true so sad isnt it our own bigotry is more important than winning

[@joermundgand]

To play football you need four rocks or shirts and a ball, now go play.

[@ryangrady8978]

Mustafa Ahmad when I was a kid all we needed was a ball 2 tree's or 2 jumpers, but then I'm from England and it's our national sport. Schools should have teams everywhere it is very cheap to create a school tream.

[@numbaoneg101]

miceypoo rogers when did he say this? I'm curious, I do agree that something needs to change

[@allnamesaretakenb4]

Dominating in sports that only US plays, well..... good job I guess.

[@allnamesaretakenb4]

DavePazz I was somewhat joking. That beeing said, baseball is a small niche sport globally, very small sport. Hockey, well the us isnt dominating in that sport. They are mediocre at best. Basketball has somewhat of a pro playerbase outside the us, but small compared to other major sports....

[@allnamesaretakenb4]

DavePazz then we agree. Guess this thread died out quickly...

[@michaelgove9349]

He said "dominating". America is not dominant in baseball. The baseball World Cup was won 25 times by Cuba and just 4 times by the USA. The World Baseball Classic has been mostly dominated by Japan. As for ice hockey - LOL! The yanks have been world champions a whole twice - in 98 years. Yes, they are the best at American Football, which only they play. And if anyone else ever does start playing it, then the first time they beat the USA, I predict the birth of the brand new sport of... Ameriball.

[@jaybrielakoi7747]

allnamesaretakenb4 The funny thing about this is everyone but Americans care about this. Why do people even care about Americans playing soccer. If Americans ever play soccer we would own everyone. Let’s be honest ..... AYSO soccer is as far as anyone will ever really care. I specifically remember graduating from soccer to real football. Then I felt like a man.

[@Akhibrass]

I'm pretty sure that by definition, any given nation can only dominate a sport they play well.

[@lewistaylor2858]

they have the easiest qualifying as well

[@boubacardiallo5945]

Exactly literally Panama and Costa Rica qualified instead of them

[@adama-k2710]

@@boubacardiallo5945 they're both good teams

[@humann5682]

The other teams are improving though. Costa Rica, Honduras, Panama... They all have players now playing in top leagues in Europe like La Liga and the Portuguese league. That will only improve their players and their national teams over time.

[@wandilande9628]

Meanwhile europe and asia is so hard

[@sasukebyak]

@@wandilande9628 In South America Brazil, Argentina and Uruguai have 9 world cup trophies.....Brazil 5

[@ckkeo]

not sure if I'm listening to Joe Hart or Fabio Cannavaro

[@jonpetter8921]

hahaha they are the unknown twinbrother.

[@mangshu21]

Cannavaro lifted the world cup..though

[@simplydolgoruky1018]

they look so fucking similar though, good spot mate

[@thatchillkid07]

Lmaooo mind blown

[@CrimsonFlameRTR]

Or Zach Morris. Sounds just like him

[@bj231217]

Love seeing this man rip the usmnt

[@MarcusB-qr1hk]

Brandon Johnson Taylor is the best!!

[@vinniechan]

he ripped the team a new hole in his rant. "Belgium played the Bosnia on cos pasture and we cant play because the pitch is wet?" gold

[@razgaros]

Now if only the us realised they are'nt that good at war too, maybe we could have peace while we are at it.

[@dan6414]

what is usmnt

[@Tyler-hu3fk]

Dan United States Men's National Team

[@thomasreithmeier5405]

CONCACAF is so easy when it comes to qualifying for a World Cup. Imagine the US having to play CONEMBOL

[@davepazz580]

But then again... if the US was really geographically located in COMNEBOL and was constantly exposed to that level of competition from every rival year after year after year, who knows how their own level of soccer would have evolved and adapted to it.

[@Slaphappy1975]

If the US are serious about improving, they should probably move to CONMEBOL.

[@karlquenzer8194]

@@ricardo_neves US national team isn't that bad anymore. It's mostly club level that sucks. Like every club failing the europa league group stage could still easily dominate Msl.

[@humann5682]

@@davepazz580 I'm not sure. US have been invited to play in the Copa America and it didn't really help them. Israel moved in to UEFA from the AFC after a soujourn. In the AFC, Israel were Asian champions. Since moving to UEFA 30 years ago, Israel haven't even _qualified_ for the European championships. The steep increase in competition hasn't helped their national team much.

[@davepazz580]

@@humann5682 I agree... both the US and Mexico should remain in CONCACAF and there really is no good reason for them to go elsewhere. I was only saying earlier than one cannot compare putting the US in another region now as if that would prove anything.

[@dinitis]

When you have a retirement league that former great players go to expect the national team to have a retirement type of attitude

[@Golden27Boy]

Finally, a good american football expert in ESPN.

[@krey89]

you mean 'soccer'

[@agoraabierta752]

Kevin Reyes Amerca is not the EEUU. America is a Continent, from South to north America. Amerca is being always about the native americans.

[@Skroumst]

Freddy Rios So what else do we call people living in the US?

[@agoraabierta752]

Josh Vandewalle . Since the EEUU is located in north America, so it says by itself Northamericans. And again people living in central and South Ameica are persay Americans that decent from native Americans, but thats what The EEUU is so ignorant to recognize.

[@mwtrolle]

Kevin Reyes "you mean 'soccer'" No it's football. Only complete idiots will call a sport where you primarily use the hands for football, it's even more clueless when the name are already taken! You could call it handball, ah that's taken as well. Maybe just call it armored rugby with weird rules?

[@FCLiver]

the whole us soccer system is wrong. In my personal experience many players who had talent and potential weren't picked up just because they didn't play for travel teams. You have to pay alot of money for travel teams and academy. Or in High school many freshman would come in and make varsity bench just because they played travel, while other kids who had talent also wouldnt be picked. These kids don't have enough money to join travel teams. The fact that coaches think that the best soccer players are on college is wrong. There are many talented people who didn't go to college because of their grades. Many world class players didn't even finish high school. They were already professionals.

[@LuxTheSlav]

All I know is they never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

[@piensaohpatriaydespierta2348]

soccerfan12ify1 you're right.. Mexico's 2nd best all time player came from the ghettos of tepito in mexico city.. Same story with Brazil's pele.. Colombia's james rodriguez, Chile's whole national team came out of very poor uneducated environments

[@mimicmimic5931]

Question from England,what is a travel team?

[@bendrasin]

David Silk travel teams are private youth soccer leagues. They have to travel a lot because there aren't that many teams. Compared to normal high school its a higher standard of coaching and competition, but you have to have money and at least one parent with a lot of free time to do it. See e.g. www.sycva.com/page/show/477110-a-parents-guide-to-travel-soccer

[@1AngryPanda]

The thing is US has the NHL, NBA, NFL all of these Leagues are #1 in the World. But all these Sports are National and have their own rules. The Big Leagues in the US live in their own Bubbles. And then you have soccer(football) with the biggest Fanbase Worldwide. And the Game rules are the same Worldwide, no exeption for the MLS. The MLS must find his place in the World of Football. You can live in your own Bubble, but then you dont make any progress in Quality. In Europe the MLS is the nearly retired League. Old Superstars from Europe go for the last Big Money Deal and a easy life on the pitch to play Soccer in the MLS.

[@kendall_knows_best2872]

Love this guy 👍🏻 get him on match of the day in England

[@themilkywayuniverse6962]

Many years later and these words still ring true😢😢😢

[@joesakic91]

But it also helped the USMNT get back to winning ways. They added another CONCACAF Nations League title in 2023 including a Tres A Cero over Mexico in the semifinals.

[@themilkywayuniverse6962]

@@joesakic91 indeed progress has been made The nations league victory was a great game But we still have to fix a lot of things in our federation

[@joesakic91]

@@themilkywayuniverse6962 True. But if the USMNT keeps developing more legends and keeps on winning games and titles, the future is much brighter.

[@themilkywayuniverse6962]

@@joesakic91 also true 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@thehooper.4495]

Recruit from the streets

[@boxingace7025]

Rick James no give an opportunity to Mexican Americans, Latin America’s a chance to shine . Lol but racist America will not allow it .

[@JR-sj1jz]

Rick James. I don't think you get it. Some of the best players in the world out there never went to fancy colleges or schools. Many come from impoverished families and start as kids at their parent clubs and develop from there. Now if the USA uses the NCAA to develop talent they will always remain behind

[@goatedtothemax1773]

+Edgar Bahena don't forget East Africans like Somalians, Ethiopians/Eritreans, who play every single day and dream to make it but it's too much money..

[@crazedmartinez]

The Hooper . Rich white Soccer moms don’t want there kids playing with poor Mexican American kids ...

[@RobotShlomo]

Everyone in "the streets' is playing basketball.

[@elfrank333]

football soccer wast always in all countries a sport of the middle and lower clases youre corrupting the spirit of this sport by looking for talents in universities instead of soccer courts pitchs in poor and middle class neighborhoods

[@christianduran1717]

Thales Schäeffer can you please stfu

[@tgmartin]

I think as a Brit that the US has all the right ingredients for the game to prosper in the future. Other big nations fail to qualify from time to time too so I wouldn't worry about missing out on the first WC in 32 years. But you're absolutely right about looking to players in the streets. Think of all those children of Central and South American immigrants and what they among others could bring to the table. The MLS needs to have more confidence in terms of investing in the development of young players and not waste money on the ageing superstars of yesterday looking for one last big paycheck

[@janj09]

T.G Martinez I think the issue is not getting results against Trinidad or Panama as opposed to European countries. Then as a result not making the worldcup. Makes it look even worse

[@tgmartin]

janusan09 I hear what you're saying, we got knocked out of the Euros by Iceland. Losing to Panama or Trinidad isn't great but the potential for the US to be a global force is still there. As an outsider looking in objectively, losing against the likes of Trinidad is over simplifying it. If you don't qualify you just dust yourselves off and look forward.

[@janj09]

T.G Martinez in a way I like that people are angry about USA not making the worldcup. Shows that they care. But what I'm saying is that USA have an awfully easy qualifying group if we're looking at it from a European perspective. Sure England lost to Iceland but that's fine. It was a one time knockout match. USA not making the worldcup because of their group is like England losing to Iceland 4 times in a row. It shouldn't happen. Like the guy said they've used so much money and resources over the years and for the to take two steps back like this is wrong. If they do fulfill their potential like you say they should. Then USA will be a dominant force for a long time because really they should be beating these countries with ease time and again.

[@michaelgove9349]

The reason for Americans' arrogance in the "big four" sports is that most other countries erm... don't play them. So the solution to their inability to win at football is clear. Simply persuade all other countries to lose interest in the sport, until only - say - the USA, Mexico and Trinidad still play it. The USA will then be the 3rd best team in the world. Yowza!

[@suryavajra]

Actually if you look at soccer, the club superpowers of Europe monopolize that sport.

[@suryavajra]

Also they are not specifying by what they mean by arrogance...

[@davilip]

what do you mean by monopolise?

[@suryavajra]

Well Ross in the European Champion's League, there are seven or eight powerhouse clubs that dominate that tournament and usually it is that tournament that determines the best players and clubs in the world..if you look at national club sides in the World Cup, those strong nations have players in those seven or eight elite teams....Real Madrid, Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester United, Bayern Munich..etc. Almost a monopoly of soccer talent concentrated in Western Europe.

[@raymondrembert6870]

Almost every country in the world has a basketball team and is a Olympic sport. The other 3 sports I can agree with

[@blooxeno1537]

"are we not good at soccer?" has 2 football helmets, a football and a baseball bat on his table but no soccer accessory whatsoever.

[@alejguz1552]

Lol I c that

[@sazhawk]

Change the way MLS works Change the way college Football/Soccer works By time Americans are done with School/College and are eligible to be drafted they're 21 and older while you have superstars age 18 in Europe competing in the Bundesliga/ La Liga/ EPL/ Seria A/ Ligue 1 Let there be relegations Let small clubs have the opportunity to get promoted and quit the stupid playoff format already!

[@sazhawk]

Eric Harris that’s what jokes are there for ;)

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

What's wrong with a playoff system?

[@sazhawk]

Nickoli Lion whats wrong? Let me tell you whats wrong The best team of the SEASON should be the champion Not a lucky team Ask yourself why mls sucks ass compared to other leagues Have all teams play each other twice (home and away) And in the end you’ll have a true and honest champion

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

sazhawk Sounds boring. And what happens if two or more teams have the same record? All American sports have a playoff system. A regular season with no playoff is like having sex but never having an orgasm.

[@BlueScouse4]

Nickoli Lion if they have the same number of points at the end of the season then it’ll be decided on who has the better goal difference. If the goal difference is the same then it goes down to who scored the most goals. If by some miracle they still can’t be split then it’ll more than likely come down to the two teams head to head results between each other.

[@DavidMarquez83948]

This guy is always speaking facts. He'll probably run American futbol better than any other person we have right now

[@LtPeeWeeHerman]

Guy below me is dumb football was created in England so it's football if you want to be correct

[@franka.5008]

It was not "created" in England so... First accounts of any form of football being played was in the 13th century by the Chinese. It was then in England during the 19th century that rules were formally put into place that made it more people friendly; rules and the Fifa organization and all.

[@JK-vc7ie]

Guy below me is dumb I haven’t seen any answers from him. Only complaints. Useless.

[@DavidMarquez83948]

Jason Kroll He's complaining bc nothing is being done right. But yeah now that you say it he doesn't give much answers

[@JK-vc7ie]

Guy below me is dumb That’s my point. People should STFU unless they have legitimate answers to the “problems” they are complaining about.

[@kaspermichaels2520]

He is absolutely right, the entire culture towards football/soccer in the US has to change if you ever want to be good. He was also right about the culture of the US sport rewarding mediocrity. This parity that ppl speak of is the same thing that allows teams to tank. Tanking would never happen in Europe, fans would burn the stadium down before they ever allowed that.

[@Kazuya720]

Americans who say "Americans are to arrogant", getting very sympathic to me :) There is hope for you guys! Greetings from Germany.

[@michaelcap9550]

We're not arrogant, just exceptional.

[@troloosauhund8747]

@@michaelcap9550 You can say bad less complicated

[@escolastico7]

@@michaelcap9550 Exceptional at what? 🤣

[@larrybuchannan186]

@@escolastico7 exceptional at kicking your as.

[@elgallitodemorelia1603]

well if you want your kid to show his skills at soccer you have to pay . kids should play soccer for fun not for profit

[@unknownelite2844]

el gallito de morelia football *

[@DawryMike]

No more pay for play and the problem is solved.

[@lecat7818]

Exactly, many parents can't afford to send their children's to academy. While the rich can easily be scouted, the poor can't.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

Then how is the sport run exactly?

[@sandman1347]

Nah it's different. In our country, poor kids don't play soccer. We have this travel team culture that makes the sport mostly for suburban kids who's parents can afford it. Poor kids make the best athletes and they don't play soccer in this country. When you look at the top players in La Liga or the Premiere League, most of them grew up as poor kids. When you look to other sports like the NBA or NFL, you are seeing leagues filled with poor kids grown up. We can't win with a bunch of soft rich kids. It's as simple as that.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

What I mean is if no one is paying to play in the youth leagues then are all youth leagues run by volunteers?

[@fmendezgnu]

Nickoli Lion I'll give you an example, in Argentina, all the teams has a youth academy development, which you can go and try to get in without paying any money, if the club wants you in, then you start paying an affordable amount of money that almost some poor people can afford (like almost 10u$s per month) then you start playing for the club in local leagues which helps the clubs to develop their young players, they grow up and start to play on higher categories until the young has enough skills to play on the first division of the club (the professional team) all that system allows, not only Argentina, the entire Latin America, to develop and still develop the amount of players that is playing right now in the entire world The clubs here has no wanting of earning money, all the money earned, goes to pay the expenses and invest on the club, it is run by the associates and owned by them too, the clubs has no direct owner, and the also has social functions here, like help the youngs to stay away from problems and focus on sports help them When USA start to think more about the development and less about the money, then you will be better at soccer

[@JMCHN21]

Our culture doesn’t support Soccer/ football. relegation should be implemented in mls. For competition. Most reasons I hear with my friends that don’t like Soccer/football is that it’s “boring”. It sucks being a football/ Soccer fan here just cause of the lack of culture it has.

[@mysund]

When I was in school, we always played football (not the US-rugby kind) between classes. After school, you could play it organized, in a club, with a coach. There is a football club in every little town with more that 500-1000 people. That is the foundation you need, for your country to be more than a decent football nation. It is what you see in all of Europe and south America.

[@jyashin]

Relegation should NEVER be implemented in the US. The only reason relegation works is because of politics. Soccer in other regions is indistinguishable from nationalism and politics. As a result each nation pours all of its resources into 1 or 2 teams. What is the result? You have 1 or 2 teams that pretty much wins all the time, and 19 teams that exist solely to be a punching bag so all the bandwagon fans get to rally behind a single team or two. It's usually the same teams that go to Champions League, and your performance is a reflection of your own nation's wealth and prestige. That would not work in the US. We are one country. We don't want "The other guys" to suffer because we're all on the same side. Having a relegation league would be the single worst thing to do. People are complaining about the NBA already, and a relegation league would be the NBA's situation on steroids.

[@Orinap]

what's happening with the NBA?

[@ryanb7833]

We just engrossed with coddling. I mean it spread from everywhere. I mean basketball is my favorite sport and would love it to be competing with soccer and even better with football as the top sports in the world. But you look at the NBA most punks here literally think its cool to shit on and teams and think ti useless and should just follow the arrogant Lakers or whoever Lebron goes. Here in the US it is either Win or bust. Relegation here would be hard cause people have no pride other than success or what will be easy for them. I mean growing up as a Nets fan in NJ it was only me and my friend in my middle school that only liked them. There is so much bandwagon and cunt fandom here in the U.S. that it affects how sports in general is run. Sports here is run like a business nowadays. As a Nets fan, it is admirable how fans of mid tier clubs in Europesuport their teams. EPL and La Liga is not perfect and think they need to find a way to help boots tier teams get more money, but the way they run leagues has a lot more passion. Honestly NCAA basketball and football is kind of similar to European leagues tbh. It is baffling cause these teams are just college aged kids where 85% of them won't make it to the NBA. NBA needs to focus more on the fans than the players and owners and it is the same with all major sports here.

[@alexbeltran6668]

jyashin THANK YOU!!!!!!

[@Mr-zx8fu]

“We dominate in EVERY other sport”. Ok.

[@michaelmayo2489]

I mean it’s pretty true just look at the Olympic medals the US has 2827 the country with the second most the UK has 883 do you see the disparity

[@blackwidowsm]

Regional sport’s perhaps 🤔

[@observeandreport2011]

After the U.S just lost to Nigeria in a qualifier

[@almister]

Rugby ? Tennis ? I don’t think so

[@pietrocosentino6636]

@@almister volley? waterpolo?

[@magman6756]

Iceland qualified from a group stage that’s like way harder to qualify from than the us group, makes it even more inane :)

[@ahblezasellars]

The Lakers comparison was ON POINT! "We reward mediocrity."

[@RedPop4]

The team owners in the leagues (NBA, NFL) call it "parity" so that at some point or other all franchises have a chance to get better from where they are. The thinking is that by doing this, you keep TV ratings because any given year, any given team can make a run. Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's what drives it.

[@pteranodon6612]

I think it comes down to this number: Total hours spent playing soccer. For most Brazilian players, that number is probably way higher than the US players.

[@taffelost6221]

I don't know the system enough to either agree nor disagree, but I do know that I love seeing someone passionate and willing to argue their case.

[@garciapedro7554]

“We have the best leagues in the world” no, you have the best basketball league in the world, because no one else plays “football”, nor “baseball”

[@donttell7940]

By several you mean 5 and other 2 that have it as a second sport. Not to mention a bunch are countries that can't even afford to train their players properly.

[@aramondehasashi3324]

Hockey, the only league that comes close to the NHL is the KHL in Russia.

[@guruxara7994]

No one plays basketball too

[@foehammer1215]

Garcia Pedro other country’s play baseball so

[@NemoHoes]

Guru Xara ummm yes they do

[@divgoel8197]

Promotion/relegation creates a sense of urgency. Even if you are a middle of the pack and especially if you are a bottom feeder you need to play every game like it's your last because it very well could be. Until MLS adopts a similar system with NASL and other leagues results don't change because the complacency will be there. It's just a difficult situation because there isn't the interest in soccer in America to where a corporate sponsor can risk a team they are backing being relegated where literally nobody will care about them/go to games and they essentially become a money sucking entity whereas in other countries the teams will still be supported to a relatively good degree.

[@barna_de]

"We dominate at every other sport" Just not the two most popular. 1)Football/soccer 2) Cricket (they don't even recognise the second most popular game around the world.

[@davepazz580]

Not dominating in cricket is perfectly understandable, since there is extremely low interest in that sport... lacrosse is probably more popular overall here. Soccer is a different story because there is a professional league here that is slowly expanding... The point of this video was to analyze why the traditional channels of professional sports development work so well for other sports (such as baseball, football and basketball) but fails to deliver the same results for soccer. The answer is of course because soccer presents unique training challenges the other sports don't have...

[@maartineriksson]

"Closed leagues" hurt sports. It may work in the MLB or the NFL, but if you wanna have continous development and a living sports culture, you gotta have open leagues with relegation systems and divisions to be able to advance through.

[@davepazz580]

That's really only appropriate when talking about independent clubs with no restrictions... Clubs do not exist in the US, because of financial longevity, they must all be franchises that share revenues and have restrictions on spending.

[@konstantin2548]

Change it to football, and you will see results.

[@TheMETALICA40]

Rhaegal 136 it will be a good start

[@GamerX78902]

Probably the first step lol.

[@STAWSKINATOR]

That won't do a damn thing

[@johnnyhandegg4168]

*Exactly, bro.. It's not just a matter of simple terminology, it's FAR beyond that..* *FOOTBALL* = passion, way of life, history, tradition, culture, quality + the actual & technically correct name for thee greatest sport ever (so step #1 - call it properly!) *SOCCER (SUCKER)* = outdated af slang term + sh*tty version of Football (for suckers)

[@dylanjohnson2602]

With American football as it is right now it would only hurt them even more

[@ike.o6944]

Love the passion

[@haaazzziiim]

Build more fields and futsal turfs in every state. Street soccer also plays an important role in development.

[@raggeragnar]

I’m from Sweden and I am surprised that USA didn’t qualify. You usually shine in every sports endeavour you embark upon. Backed up by good organisations with good people leading the way. Including in football(soccer). Given that I’m no expert at all , but I can’t see where the problem originates.

[@JayPee25]

I’m not even a soccer fan but I like his passion

[@TDH959]

They have the best leagues in the world in other sports cause no one else does them. The one sport that America tries that everyone else plays and they suck.

[@xiSpider-Man]

Thought Police there is baseball and basketball leagues outside the USA you know that right?

[@boxingace7025]

Manuel Alcaraz and USA can’t even win the baseball World Cup lmao thanks to black Americans basketball is your only real game lmao .

[@joe3k907]

Esports has more viewers than baseball and the U.S has pretty much ruined basketball by making it a freak show.

[@clapdrix72]

Everyone else has basketball and we are really-really-fuckn-good-like-no-one-will-ever-even-come-close-to-us fuckn good at basketball :) But soccer, yes we suck and probably always will.

[@mauriciostancati3593]

Thought Police basket? Ok....baseball?...japan..football( none).hockey (russia / canada)..so yes, i agree with you...it hurts but it’s truth

[@dynamofan25]

And 2 years later...his brain is right.

[@aldosigler1559]

I think one of the main reason that the US soccer team is bad is that they don’t compete against any true rivals until the World Cup. When you participate only in the gold cup where your biggest contender is Mexico your players will hardly ever be pushed to a higher level. That and the fact that the MLS overprices the players, which avoids any possible negotiation to premium European teams. Why pay 10plus millions for an unknown American player? General public interest in the sport should also be a concern, but not as much as people may think, I mean it’s a country with 200 million people, I’m sure finding 30 talented players should be that hard.

[@davepazz580]

Every point you brought up has been exactly repeated by critics in Mexico... referring to the Mexican national team and it's players.

[@FagnerDeschain]

I'm a brazilian so... Trust me on this one. The most important thing we have is what we call "the base". It's the training system developed over the years, it isn't perfect, but works. Kids and teenagers are trained by the teams, sometimes they become professional players for the same team or are transfered to play somewhere else. It's huge. I don't have the numbers, but, from the bottom of my heart, it's around 80% the numbers of the kids that try to play soccer by applying for a test in the teams' bases all around the country where they choose the best prospects. However your draft system is a beauty. The division system used all around the world is good to make the best teams at the time to compete against mediocre teams. It's not fun to watch. It's like the spanish championship, wich you'll see Real Madrid competing against Barcelona and the other teams just watching, just because soccer doesn't use your draft system, where the teams are almost on the same level of quality. The brazilian championship has the same problem, the top 5 teams are always the same. Look how Germany built its team after 2006 and you'll have some good ideas. You can build a strong team using the adapted form of the american way.

[@alefgiovane5178]

The brazilian championship has always the same top 5 teams? You're kidding bruh

[@lucasmajor1057]

Alef Exato haha No começo do brasileirao de 2017 tinhamos muitos times com possibilidade de ganhar o brasileiro, e é assim todo ano. Os 4 grandes de SP + Os 4 grandes do RJ + Gremio (O inter sempre disputa, mas tava rebaixado). So nessa ja sao 9 times, e que todo ano estão na disputa. Entao dizer que sao 5 times é no minimo equivocado

[@facundoaguero7856]

Lucas Major 7

[@vaannebilim]

im agree in all what you said except in la liga mediocre teams precisely in the small teams is where you find the rise and improve of the football bases in a country and when you see the top teams in the world struggling sometimes with really humble teams that cant afford with all its budget to pay the worst player in the epl salary that tells you they are using their resources effectively with the youngsters and says that you can find talent everywhere

[@gomezlakade]

Brasil tiene una cultura futbolera que estos obesos armados no tienen, no existen plazas o canchas en los pueblos o condados eeuu, no hay hambre. Miren sus deportes, todos o la mayoría solo ellos los practican.

[@harrisonjananto91]

U can start by calling it football

[@charliethemaddawg]

harrison jananto We already have a sport here called football.

[@danielyanezgarrido]

which is mostly not played with your foot at ll

[@charliethemaddawg]

daniel yanez Don't care. That's what we've called it for over 100 years and we don't plan on changing what we call our sport anytime soon.

[@charliethemaddawg]

rockn roll I don't care. Different countries have different names for Soccer. Italy calls it Calcio. Croatia call it Nogometni. It is also called Soccer in Australia and in Canada. American Football got started from Rugby. It is called College Football, not College American Football. The NFL stands for the National Football League, not the National American Football League (NAFL).

[@augie6479]

Even if we started calling it football (which will never ever happen), it wouldn't change a thing...it's not the top sport in the US.

[@kendall_knows_best2872]

Need this guy on match of the day in the uk

[@arturahmeti486]

That is part of life. Loosing, happens to everyone even the best. This is the beauty of football.

[@frankmarshal7767]

"we dominate in every other sport" ... really? In hockey in IHF championships The Soviet Union/Russia has won 27 gold, Canada has 26, Czech Republic/Czechoslovakia has 12, Sweden 10 and the US has 2, lol. You call that dominant? The US wins gold in men's hockey at the Olympics in '80 and they are at least honest enough to call it a 'miracle on ice', not a domination, haha. Shaka got it right with his comments on the previous panel that "Not only is this the worst US team I've seen, but it's the most arrogant team I've seen"

[@solasta]

The US are shit at cricket tbh...

[@ralphkiszakiewicz1030]

That's true handball is hard for Americans to pick up the game is so different but cool at the same time. They are good at Volleyball though and beach volleyball. They should put more into these sports which are big international sports as well.

[@ianstephenson9721]

For international hockey, Russia/USSR has always had their top players. Even now that pros are allowed, Canada and the US don't take the World Championships seriously, the Russians do.

[@superlex611]

@@ianstephenson9721 because they care about the game

[@ianstephenson9721]

@@superlex611 Also, the KHL season ends in time for the World Championships, the NHL season doesn't. A lot of it goes back to Soviet days when they used sports as propaganda.

[@Worldsportstalk24]

You don't dominate in hockey 😊 that belongs to your friendly neighbours to the north 🍁🍁🍁

[@mareklame8589]

US does not dominate, but its hockey teams is always a champion contender. But how many countries really play hockey? US, Can, Rus, Fin, Swe, Czechy.

[@KingmanIII]

Still bitter about losing the bet over who keeps Bieber. :-(

[@aramondehasashi3324]

Your right but Hockey is only played in certain parts of the country, its either 4 or 5th most popular sport and were still a top contender.

[@kevinp5325]

Okay, but is that apples to oranges? It's my understanding that the US National Hockey Team is unlike other national teams in that it doesn't recruit the best athletes from its professional league (NHL); rather it relies on up-and-coming NHL and collegiate players. In the NHL, which incorporates both American and Canadian teams, the Americans do just as well as the Canadians. Also, America is unofficially considered to be part of the big 6 in international hockey (US, Canada, Sweden, Russia, Czech Republic, and Finland). There are plenty of other nations which play the sport.

[@kevinp5325]

To which league are you referring? Because if you're talking about Olympic Hockey, I already pointed out that's an apples to oranges comparison; the US doesn't necessarily put its top players on the Olympic teams the same way that other nations do.

[@isacfredheim4734]

American sports is all about who is the strongest, fastest and most athletic. Football is most about technic and reading the game. Football ain’t just a sport it’s art.

[@brentw741]

Any country could be good it just requires the right attitude. Look at Iceland 🇮🇸 ⚽️. They qualified for a lot of tournaments and their population is the size of a US city. Plus they weren’t ever really that good before but found a way to establish themselves on the international scene. We have 1000x times the population of Iceland and enough people care about it here. Twellman is totally right. People should listen to him. A lot of people involved with US soccer are too arrogant.

[@tobeast17]

Soccer development?THEY DO TRY OUTS TO MAKE MONEY BUT PICK UP TALENTED PLAYERS.....THEY USA ALSO THINKS THAT THE ONLY TALENTS IS IN COLLEGE AND THAT'S CLEAELY NOT THE CASE NEYMAR,RONALDO,MESSI NEVER WENT TO COLLEGE

[@tobeast17]

*Don't pick up TALENTED players

[@ivanvargasheaven]

better scouting is a big part .

[@tobeast17]

Ivan Vargas That's true and when they have state tryouts they need to pick up the real talent instead of doing try for money

[@jeffzalonka]

tobeast17 That’s because football is a pay to play sport here in the US. Parents have to fork over thousands upon thousands of dollars for their kids to play, especially if their kids want to reach a higher level. The poor kids in the US don’t have that option so they will never get into football. Instead they either play a more popular sport just like the rich kids or they will go find regular jobs to support themselves and their families.

[@The2002Slayer]

yeah in the USA and Canada its all about having connections or having money. if someone in North America (besides in Mexico) really wants to make it in soccer for their skill than its better going to a south American country to play in because over there its about skill not money

[@igloo614]

Honestly,they should make Twellman manage the USMNT

[@aquabuddha8022]

Are you mad do you really think he can help a sport called FOOTBALL, by playing soccer......be realistic Awesome N 3

[@fensen6949]

People complaining about US not having pro/rel system have no real knowledge about Geography. USA is a massive country with an area of *9 million sq. km* which is significantly larger than England (130 thousand sq.km), Germany (357 thousand sq.km), Spain (500 thousand sq.km), France (543 thousand sq.km), Italy (301 thousand sq.km), and many other european nations *combined* . Let's say USA does have a pro/rel system and teams from small local clubs of _Oregon, North Dakota, Arizona,Texas, kansas, Florida, Wisconsin, Maine, West Virginia_ end up on the 3rd division.. (for Europeans perspective, it is like having teams from small towns of _Ireland, Denmark, Latvia, Portugal, Serbia, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Russia, Kazhakhstan,_ all in a 3rd division battling for pro/rel) Imagine the travel cost and travel exhaustion the team have to undergo every week, and for what..? to get promoted or demoted to a new tier which may not be as prestigious as the first tier.

[@r2dad282]

Wut? its not that size is the problem, its the fact that were don't have a proper soccer pyramid like every other meaningful football country (Aussies don't count). with a hundred D3 teams, dozens of D2 and 40 D1 USSF could build the game in this country if it wasn't so busy sucking up to MLS and their socialist business model. Pro-Rel supports free enterprise, but MLS billionaires don't want that.

[@justcuzitsepic5874]

I'm not a MLS fan at all but I have to admit USA's team has been decent in the recent years. I know the MLS has nothing to do with USA's national team per se, but the MLS works in a very American way. Maybe it should shift away from the corporate way of thinking to something more in tune with the actual sport. In that sense , I commend you all to check out Japan's approach to soccer and its history . I think you can learn one thing or two. It's very similar to the US in history , but they learned to adapt it and somehow almost always end up qualifying for the worldcup. Speaking of which, get their coach for the 2020 worldcup. He's legendary. He knows how to build a team from the ground up. He's got verve. His name is Vahid Halilhodzic

[@yaneyd93]

"We dominate every other sport" No you don't... That's the arrogance people outside of America hate

[@jamesblunt1915]

Zizou Francoforte Have you checked the Olympic Medal count lately?

[@nobeladhikari4317]

Most medals are fron swimming...so technically you dont dominate all other sports

[@yaneyd93]

The most popular teamsports worldwide are soccer, rugby, cricket and baseball. Non of them are dominated by the US. The medal count at the winter olympics was almost always won by Germany, Norway or Russia. The only event the US dominates is the summer olympics because they are very good at swimming and gymnastics and stuff like that. That's barely every other sport though...

[@allanj1872]

James Blunt how many americans go to the Olympic games dumb arse

[@Ilovemunchlax1]

Cricket is only there because one country obsesses over it and it is a billion people. The US doesn't play cricket and barely plays rugby.

[@EuroGupper]

Keep the draft system, but also put down football fields for poor urban youth to play on. The poor have always been the source where legends were found

[@chibifirestorm]

the draft is stupid, players never develop in college anyway. Most of the players picked in the draft hardly see the field in the MLS, they are bench players at best. kids need to be trained in academies from a young age

[@vicp1990]

In most other countries you know if youre going pro by 16.. College and draft doesnt start till 18-22 too late at that point.

[@EuroGupper]

Vincent Peguero you need a fall back job. The draft secures a future after the college level for all students. Other countries can learn from the US. Looking at the NBA for example, name one country that's better at basketball than the US. The draft works because there are enough youth interested in Basketball. Right now football (soccer) is big but still a 2nd tier sport in the US imo. When you guys get football riots and club hooligans we'll talk about the US world cup 😅.

[@joaquinvargas3110]

Snyder187 you can't compare basketball to soccer buddy the NCAA soccer it's not as good as league 2 of England. so in other words your saying let's keep 18 year old American soccer in a college division another amature division until he is 22 and then play at the MLS. Tell me one good US player that came from MLS who was drafted out of college and made it in a European league? In basketball the College division or NCAA or whatever is it call has the almost the same level as NBA. We need to copy the system of every where else in the world.

[@EuroGupper]

Joaquin Vargas like i said in another post. The problem isn't the draft it's the lack of connection to the urban and ghetto youth. US football is treated like polo when it should be treated like basketball. Make it popular with everyone. The rich but also especially the poor. Put football fields in housing projects and ghettos. Organise meet and greets in those neigborhoods and tournaments. Basically copy American Football and Basketball

[@THEREALZENFORCE]

"We dominate every other sport" Internationally besides basketball, track and field the answer is NO you dominate only in your self invented sports, in the rest the USA is behind (especially in men sports) : - collective sports (soccer, volleyball, handball, rugby, etc) => USA ? - tennis, ping pong, badminton, etc => USA ? - fighting sports (MMA, Kickboxing, Muay Thai, Judo, BJJ, Karate, Boxing) => USA ? - motorsports (F1, WRC Rally, MotoGP, Man TT, etc) => USA ? - Wintersports => USA ? USA a 331 million nation internationally being beaten by 70 million France, 90 million Germany (even sometimes by 17 million people The Netherlands) in most internatonally played sports. A fact that most people outside the US bubble now. Even in breakdance (you invented it), the USA has not won the crew world title since 1998 (Battle of the Year on Wikipedia as proof), where South Korea, France and Japan dominate US teams easily.

[@davepazz580]

The context of this conversation wasn't about number of international trophies... they were specifically discussing player development for the other US sports leagues (baseball, football, ice hockey and basketball) and why America's traditional channels of development are enough for those sports but not for soccer. The fact is they produce *enough* quality professionals in these other sports to be a factor (referring to Taylor's poorly-chosen term here "dominate")...

[@kung_fool]

This never gets old, even right now in the midst of 2022 World Cup. The US Award mediocrity... Taylor my man, you said it there. That's the magic word, that's the kryptonite of some Americans. An NFL team finishes the season with a record of 1-15, the worst in the league, and in the draft gets the number 1 pick..... what the actual F*CK. Taylor spitting facts, USA needs to stop the arrogance and treat soccer the right way, not the American way.

[@davepazz580]

Treat soccer the "right" way and you get no top league at all... America has its own professional sports culture which must be followed if it is to have *any* chance at long-term survival... Would you instead prefer the top team the top draft picks as well?

[@kung_fool]

@@davepazz580 you must not watch soccer a lot don't you? Have seen any European league games at all? Do you know how they're structured? Those are top, well established league. Making tons of money, and impacted its surrounding communities. I didn't say the NFL or NBA has to follow the system of football in Europe or the entire world. I'm just saying, and like Taylor said as well in the video, the MLS should be modeled after the European league structure, if Americans like myself, wanted to see progress in the development of US soccer.

[@davepazz580]

I watch plenty European league soccer... what does that have to do with anything I said? And I know how they are structured as well... they are structured as such because soccer is the national obsession there, unlike here. The US (like it or not) is a multi-sport country - there is no single sport that is going to followed in a die-hard fashion at the exclusion of all others, which means soccer *must* be presented in a totally different way than it is in Europe (this is just common sense). While I agree with Taylor's overall sentiment, I don't agree with the details of what he's suggesting... MLS is a single-entity league, which means that the teams can *only* legally exist as a top league team and aren't free to jump up and down between leagues. Please don't make the mistake of assuming the exact same passion fans in Europe have for their local clubs, following them with the same fervor whether they play in the top division or lower division can be replicated here simply by copying the same system... it cannot.

[@nachoalvarez7171]

To be fair, all 4 major league sports drafts (except the NFL) has a draft lottery to fix that problem. Still doesn't take away the fact tho

[@davepazz580]

@@nachoalvarez7171 Actually, it does take away the fact... Teams that finish last or near last need way more than just one potentially great player to really turn things around anyway...

[@joshuakennedy5069]

This man said bridging the Gap between Brazil and Argentina???? Bruhhhh

[@UyemaHD]

lmaoo right? Like a decent player coming out of Brazil or Argentina would be the greatest player to ever play for the USA.

[@user-bq8jb9hy5e]

Joshua Kennedy and belgium

[@TheEyeball37]

Hey, never stop trying.

[@tomasdelcampo2]

Yep

[@EpicVideoMaster11]

UyemaHD No they really wouldn't because average players from those countries play in MLS

[@leastimnotarepublican]

We're never going to win playing the same way they do with inferior players. Our talisman is a regular player on other sides. Our understanding of the game holds us back more then our lack of talent. There are 20 guys working in a factory that can beat our NT. Open up the league.

[@cronos104]

"We cannot stop the game to put ads to gain money" Bruh, just let the game flows

[@davepazz580]

Games are never stopped on TV because of ads... not sure where that came from.

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

Who’s here after the usmt might missed the Tokyo Olympics

[@seshadhri_s]

Mens football doesnt really care for the Olympics

[@Frankieefootballmundial]

@@seshadhri_s I guess that true not quite exciting as the World Cup

[@dedeecdralexandre7097]

I'm glad the americans got a taste at reality. You're not better at everything. Maybe a little humility will do well. What a shame only need a tie to qualify and end up losing to the Trinidad reserve team.

[@s.fingerboard1218]

dedeecdr alexandre no one gives a fuck tho

[@ugo49396]

dedeecdr alexandre the are the best in every sport apart from rugby and football

[@dedeecdralexandre7097]

That's your excuse to this failure. Since you guys didn't qualify "no one gives a fuck" arrogant ass nation

[@ugo49396]

dedeecdr alexandre they do have a reason to be arrogant when it comes to supports have u seen the olympics and how many medals they win.

[@s.fingerboard1218]

dedeecdr alexandre yes it is

[@josvandershirt8455]

belgium has one of the best teams in the world dont compare usa soccer team to the belgium national football team

[@j.lizbardo]

The list was belgium, brazil, colombia and Argentina. 😆

[@scottansell5513]

Love for the game is the number one thing you need to succeed

[@Bialeepoynter]

young kids here in Brazil play in the streets, in a park, ANYWHERE. Football it's not supposed to be expensive guys. It has to be encouraged, and most of all, done with love and passion.

[@a-walgames1350]

This!!!

[@TheSpaceman12345]

If America took soccer seriously they’d fall in love with it, like the rest of the world does. The country that size should be able to find talent but they don’t. They players just ain’t good enough. If they set up a league structure similar to La Liga or the premier league then people would get into it more. It’s like when you see teams like Manchester United, Barcelona, Real Madrid go over there the American players and coaches are in aura about how good they are.

[@jayjayson9613]

Jacque Cotgrave it's hard to fall in love with soccer here for those. It's not a fun game to watch when you compare it to let's say hockey, a sport not native to the U.S but U.S.A Hockey continues to produces elite talent and has won gold in juniors and Olympics. There's more and more kids playing soccer but it's lacking something.

[@theword3917]

Jacque Cotgrave The problem with the US national teams is the development. In my area from 11 year olds and up every kid needs to pay at least $2,000 per year to play for clubs where the best coaches are at. How many naturally gifted kids from the lower class or low middle class do you think get left out because of these ridiculous fees?? Every MLS team should invest heavily in the youth of their perspective areas by creating youth teams. Higher the best coaches or train them. MLS teams have the money to cover all of this so that no naturally talented kid will be left out because of their economic background.

[@kingjones325]

We only use a fraction of the population because we have this stupid pay to play rule

[@XxAlex530xX]

They do take it seriously but here in USA you usually go through the college route so by the time you go pro you are above 20 years old for sure

[@XxAlex530xX]

Jacque Cotgrave I have a friend who’s went from community college to university to the NASL and he still is waiting to go to the mls and he’s 22 already

[@jeffzalonka]

Alexi Lalas was right to call out the US team.

[@keitht24]

JEFFREY A guy named Alexi has no business calling out anyone.

[@jeffzalonka]

tyro apache Ok “tyro apache” ...

[@matthewlarue578]

The answer is in the structure and culture within club youth and public school programs. It's not so much arrogance as its cultural and societal weakness.

[@terah101]

They need to introduce a multi-tier system with promotion and relegation in the MLS. They have it everywhere else in the world except for USA. It will make the league miles more competitive and force players, teams and the entire league as whole to improve. That will extend to the US national mens team too.

[@hisnameisbass6405]

I completely agree with Taylor he has my exact thoughts

[@ALEXXGARSK8]

Facts Breh

[@dickyboi1985]

Kids in Europe, South America etc.. grow up with a passion for Football (Soccer) kids in America don't have that passion as it's not as popular as NFL, NBA etc.. you can coach all you want but, if the nation isn't as interested as you are, you're never going to win.

[@nelson776]

so true back when i was a kid we used to make our own ball by making out plastic and stream this is back Cento America

[@WedersonWinchester]

This video needs subtitles.

[@MrFelixify]

"we dominate in every other sport" umm no you don't and the ones you dominate in , you are the only participant in.

[@Bongaboi151]

The USA isn't very good in women's field hockey. Argentina and Germany can attest to that.

[@GGMatt]

Uh, cricket? Rugby? Tennis? Motor racing? Boxing? Field hockey? Golf? The US doesn't dominate in any of those sports either, and sports like rugby and cricket are hardly even known in the US despite being 2 of the most played sports in the world. The US doesn't dominate in any sports other than American Sports and Athletics..

[@GGMatt]

DavePazz I've seen you comment the exact same thing on a dozen other comments. He literally says "we dominate in every other sport". Nothing about that statement or the context in which he's speaking indicates he was only talking about American sports, YOU and you alone have made that assumption and preach it as if it's gospel.

[@Bongaboi151]

The point's made Dave. We aren't good in sports.

[@GGMatt]

DavePazz I did look at the context, as has everyone else and you're literally the only person I've seen in this comment section attempting to change the words coming from his mouth. Face the fact that you live in probably the most arrogant culture in the developed world and that a lot of people within the United States would actually believe a statement like "we dominate in every other sport", whether it be from someone else's mouth or their own. I 100% believe he meant what he said, and you literally have no argument against that as those exact words came from his mouth and the context you're implying wasn't implied by him in the slightest.

[@animationparmar5607]

Americans just don't give a Damn about football Stephen a Smith gave a 40 second reaction for the elimination ffs

[@daveinindy]

THIS is the truth. No amount of training or organizing will turn B and C level athletes that gravitate to soccer (with very few exceptions) into world class athletes. The A level athletes don't choose soccer. At least not right now.

[@onebuffalo5402]

SAS, donts know anything about hockey or baseball either so that doesnt exactly mean anything. Hes a 2 dimensional sports viewer which isnt most of the country. Most of America are 3-4 dimensional knowing about all 4 major sports or atleast 3 of them . Soccer not included cause its the 5th.

[@johnferreira885]

Well said.

[@seanmcclelland8893]

and the 2019 Gold Cup didn't make it better either but we have a new coach and a few new players but the new ones need to step up. Still a long way till 2022

[@gontrandjojo9747]

The Gold Cup is a joke, just make a Mexico-USA game and give the trophy to the winner instead it will be faster.

[@adamrobertk]

He makes a good point. Players across the world at times face relegation fights. Games where if you lose there is real jobs at stake. These games teach the players how to grind out the results, the US system lacks that. The point on number 1 draft pick for finishing last is superb. You finish last in the premier league, your team loses £100 million and staff lose their jobs. Maybe bringing in relegation to the MLS will give the US players more experience in real lose or die battles.

[@mareklame8589]

Simple relegation is not enough. You need many leagues. The last 3 teams from 1st league go to 2nd league, in exchange for their best teams. Then there is exchange between 2nd and 3rd. Below are regional leagues. And the lower the league, the less money for teams. So the leagues represent the stages of players skills. Very talented 18 old player ("rookie") might start from the top. But in general he starts his career in lower leagues. Then he advanced either with his team or is bought by upper teams. I've already posted several times my comment about Lewandowski. Read his story below. Shortly , at age 18 top Polish team told him he's not good enough. He started in 3rd league. Now he's top scorer in top Germany club, Bayern Munchen. Young US players must go to Europe to have real competition with pros. Age 18-22 is crucial in soccer development. You transform from youth to senior. I tell you the story of the greatest polish player ever lived. Robert Lewandowski. He was development at the major team from polish capital, Legia Warsaw (polish 1st league). At age 18 he was REJECTED by Legia senior team. He went to the third league (3rd). He competed at 3rd and 2nd level. Then he was picked up by Legia's rival, Lech Poznań from 1st league. During his time in Lech times he became the top scorer of 2010 polish champion team. He could stay in Poland, he was already a star in his country. But he wanted more. He went to Germany to their 2nd best team Borussia Dortmund. He was no star at the point. He struggled against rivals in his own team. He became the main forward in Borussia team. But he left Borussia and went to the greatest Germany team, Bayern Munchen. If US players want to success they cannot stay in US. If someone thinks MLS is enough, he could never be great. And when you go abroad you must start from lower ground and struggle to the top division. What more should you learn. In European football there are so many stages for seniors. They show you on what level you are. Soccer players always try go higher. But when the competition is too strong they go down. Another example. Second polish forward, Arkadiusz Milik. Not so good as Lewandowski. At the age 18 he also went to Germany, to Bayer Leverkusen team. He was too WEAK for Germany. After one-and-half year he went to Netherlands. Ha made it to the first team. Then he has been selled to Italian league, which is better then Netherlands. Now, he's just 23. During 18-22 young players must compete with pros, it is tough, but it is the only selection.

[@Jut_tc]

Perhaps how can an organisation charge youth to teach them how to play football while in other footballing nation, they play the game on the street. No sense at all.

[@Brqinstorm]

The vast majority of football talent in europe play in club from age 6, then the best talents get in the best formation center that are run by clubs for the most part. The game is not taught on the streets this is a myth. Do you know whats preventing american child from playing on the streets ? Nothing. You need, two sweatshirts to make a goal, a ball. USA has no passion for football, its not structures, its not money, its passion, love for the game. With all the money USA has and the size of the country, its a disgrace that they can't produce half decent players. USA has a system perfect to produce athletes, like China, no surprise that both are bottom dweller in football where athleticism is not the priority. If the U.S wants to develop they need to get rid of their system, have actual football clubs with money spent on youth and youth detection. Stop with the high school system, the draft. Players in europe are treated as professional from their teens. 12 and up they already play against top competition their age, then from age 16 they can be called to play with the pros. By the time a player gets drafted to the MLS he's a decade late in development compared to other countries. Also the franchise system is great for fair competition and sponsors, but it stiffles the development. In all countries, an amateur club can play in a cup and end up playing against the top teams in the country, allowing for amateurs to get national exposure. Relegations emphasizes small budget clubs to invest in their youth and in the end it raises the level of competition. As long as the US stays locked in their traditions, US football will be a joke.

[@Jut_tc]

Kids start playing football in the street in other part of the footballing world and grow up playing for a team . My case is kids in america don't play as much football compared to Hockey, NFL , baseball and basketball.

[@Brqinstorm]

Not much. My father was a football coach, all my brothers played. At 5 I was at football practice, at 9 I had 2 practices on top of my club's practice with my father again at the club, saturdays were the game and tournaments, and you could also be a ball boy to see the adults play every home game. When you wanted to play, you could come at the stadium and take a piece of the pitch while the adults teams trained. Playing on the streets was a bonus. My point is, as soon as I was old enough I had structures available and thats what the US is lacking. Grew up closer to being "poor" than a lot of people so no, football even in club is absolutly not something that requires much money. With the recent questions about head injury in tackle football, parents are less willing to put young kids at risk. Football is the most inclusive of all the major sports, the two best players in the world right now have completly different body Messi 5"5 150lbs; Cristiano Ronaldo 6"1 179lbs. There is a huge gap to fill in north american sports and its up to the clubs to create the environment necessary. Also I don't understand this notion of "pay to play" Last time I checked, football is a fraction of the cost to run compared to its American tackling counterpart. There is no pads, no helmets, no mouthguard, no kicking tee, ONE COACH and his assistant (maybe two if you feel generous) This "pay to play" thing should not be an issue. And kids will start playing on the street once they'll have the necessary structures to start enjoying the game in the first place. Because again, there is nothing to create to make kids play on the streets, they can do it right now, thing is, they dont want to.

[@jimjones3287]

Brqinstorm you are not following. The poster is talking about kids playing soccer in the STREETS with their friends for FREE and for fun. Playing just for your youth team isn't just enough you got to play against the kids in the other neighborhood or the other school (unofficially). Over here I see no such thing. The ones that play soccer are usually the rich white kids because they can 'afford' to pay for the camps when in reality it's the ones who can't afford it are usually the better players. Look at the best players in the world, usually all came from poverty where they had to play with tennis balls, soda bottles, stones, etc. When you learn how to play soccer in those conditions you will be MUCH better than the guy who played all his life on the best facilities.

[@Brqinstorm]

I know what he was saying, and I explained why I think its not as important as you think to play on the streets. I'm french, and like I've said, I have a father who coached football since before my birth, and my entire family played, I'm not claiming to know all the implications, or to have all the answers, but I actually played football in a club and outside, and I have a pretty good idea of the intricacies of detecting and developing young talents. Playing on the streets is great, but it will only be a reality in the US once you devellop a real passion. And having structures is the first step towards that. Once you give young kids the taste of the game, they will naturally want more, and guess where you can meet other kids your age that like the same sport you do ? In a club. Also, what you said about kids learning to play on the streets is not really accurate, you learn some skills on the streets, but your game IQ is only really evolving through organized 11vs11 play. Also, you wont understand on your own complicated concepts, like off-ball movement, moving as a team laying an offside trap etc. There is also the fact that playing on the streets or indoor is pretty much a completly different sport compared to an actual football pitch. (playing basketball on the street, you still play on a 10" hoop with roughly the same size of pitch) Short field in football means dribbling in close quarter is emphasised, the ball goes faster rebounds totally differently, runs are totally different, offside doesn't exist and so on. I played keeper, and I was "forbidden" from playing it on the streets and indoor mainly because I have a bad hip and also because I'd develop bad habits (you don't defend a 3m*2m the same way you do a 7.32m*2.75m) so I'd just play another position wich was good to help devellop my foot skills. Thats in my opinion the importance of playing outside of the club, to complement and add to your club experience, not the other way around. And all those favela kids you're referring to, are detected from a very young age and placed in clubs that actually help them blossom into world class talents. Finally, Europe is arguably the biggest talent pool in the world, and this "playing with a soda bottle" just doesn't exist and literally every kid that is pro here started playing organized from a very young age. 8 of the top 10 Ballon d'Or players are from Europe (14/20 if we go deeper)

[@t.thomas6967]

Soccer in the US is a pay to play sport

[@Orinap]

T. Thomas what do u mean by that? Do u have to pay to play football?

[@t.thomas6967]

In the US kids can only play soccer if they join a club. Which means their parents have to have money. There are not open pickup courts in the park for soccer like in every European or South American country where any kid can just go and play. BUT there are open basketball courts everywhere in the US, which is less common in Europe. Thus US is the best and basketball and horrible at soccer.

[@Orinap]

T. Thomas that kind of happens in Europa too If u want to go pro u need to join a club (pay) but if u just want to play for fun there are fields for u to play like in basketball and every single school (at least in Portugal) has a field where u can play.

[@moheganson]

T. Thomas not like tennis or golf. Soccer is cheap

[@ibbycooling2]

Yeetus Maximus you have to pay to actually join a soccer team

[@edwincitomeza]

PAY TO PLAY IS SOME BS LETS BE HONEST HERE MANY PLAYERS OF LOWER RESOURCES ARENT EVEN GETTING A SHOT AT THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE

[@salmaanhussein9067]

Edwin Meza you can play professional but it’s at the cost of education

[@mrjasonsamuel23]

Trinidad and Tobago forever, remember that name yanks

[@Sileray18]

Jason Samuel Costa Rica y Panamá send their regards!

[@RedPop4]

Paul Caligiuri, thank you for your service.

[@mrjasonsamuel23]

Yare V Germany winning this world cup again

[@vincentlyckowski9228]

Jason Samuel So, No one gives a fuck.

[@Bongaboi151]

Alvin Jones, remember THAT name, Yanks.

[@TheEmancipatingPoet]

the MLS shld introduced an EPL style league the where teams r relegated and promoted

[@UserRobot215]

Tee-Jay Ndjoze more like every other league in the world

[@-TurboS]

They have the money to do it but they don’t do their cheap

[@_oam_]

its more than jjust money

[@-TurboS]

KingShadow11 more teams

[@-TurboS]

Canada USA and Mexico should have league together that would be sick you guys agree

[@ismaelhernandez222]

Don't just look for players in universities. Look for them all over the US. Then we will see how a true USA team can play.

[@joesakic91]

A three-peat in the CONCACAF Nations League, a 2021 CONCACAF Gold Cup, and a R16 Knockout Stage appearance in the 2022 FIFA World Cup later...

[@triunegroup]

I don’t know who Taylor Twellman is, but did he say he and others thought the USA was bridging the gap between Belgium, Germany, Brazil and Argentina? He clearly does not understand the most beautiful sport in the world - Football. The USA has never had, and will never have a player in the top 100 players in the world. Not today and not 100 years from now. The countries he listed are the best on the planet and they produce some of the best players at every level of the game. There are 14 year old footballers in the streets of Brazil who are better than every player on this current USA team. What is he even thinking to mention the USA among these countries. This is where the problem starts; commentators comparing the USA Football team against the greats. Belgium has players on the bench who might never play in Russia who are better than every player on the USA team. Form a real Football system, with 1st and 2nd division leagues, and get top players across the globe playing in the leagues. Without such leagues, you will never become a Football nation.

[@jimjones3287]

There are also 14 year olds in the streets of the USA that are better than every single Brazilian player so i guess you are missing the point. America has 300 million people and you're going to tell me that not one individual in the country has outstanding talent? I play pick up still and I meat AMAZING players all the time but American culture puts soccer as a past time and not a way of life as it is in other countries. What happens is that child will either end up playing american football, basketball, baseball, hockey before they will play soccer and then to boot there is not much money to be made because the other sports get priority. Americans dominate almost every other sport but yet soccer is something different? No, they just don't care for it. If they did, they'd allocated all the funds neccessary to make SURE they win. I mean the women are winning pretty easily and you know why? Parents who want their daughters to play sports put them in soccer as it's not as dangerous as the others so what do you have left over? A bunch of women who have been playing all their lives. Trust if the same were applied to the men USA would be right up there with the rest of the big countries. You think there aren't brazilians, germans, italians, spaniards, argentines in America. With this kind of melting pot USA should EASILY be producing the best talent not to mention the obscene wealth over hear to fund things like that. It's all about culture and priorities and in USA, the majority do not care one bit about soccer.

[@daveinindy]

+Jim Jones - pretty much agree. Soccer just doesn't attract the best athletes in the U.S. - at least not yet. As American football fades (brain injuries seem to be a giant hammer waiting to crush the sport) - soccer might fill the gap. That could well be the tipping point needed to attract something other than our B level athletes (at best). You can't #$*& with culture; people either learn to love the sport or not. In the US - it's still "not".

[@jimjones3287]

+Quay Rude exactly. Our best male athletes have at least 5 sports to pick from and soccer is the bottom of the list. The argument that we need a relegation/promotion system is a decent one but gladly we're on the same page and agree it is a CULTURE thing. What about like the Malaysian premier league? I'm sure they do exactly what Europe is doing with multiple tier leagues and playing all their lives but how good is Malaysia.....? It's all culture. America has every race of people here so it's not some genetic thing. I bet America is the only country that could field multiple all (insert ethnicity) players in their XI. We have the talent but not the time or care to cultivate it. To the original poster explain then why the american women are consistently the best women soccer team on earth?

[@waydebelgrave-haynes855]

Jim Jones Are you fucking joking? There aren't 14 year olds in the streets that play better football than all of the Brazil team. Stop dreaming.

[@jimjones3287]

No I'm not joking. Original poster said there are 14 year old Brazilian kids who are better than every player on the USA team. Guess what? It works both ways. Does that mean these young talents will ever be found? No. Point: There are talented players all over the world. The topic at hand is how the USA handles it's top talents and the answer is very badly.

[@kimberleeclemensen8413]

I used to hate Twellman But I can’t find where he’s wrong here at all

[@jimjam999able]

Nottingham Forest won back-to-back European Cups (Champions League pre-1992) in '79 & '80. That is one more than Chelsea and the same amount as Juventus....1999 was the last season they played in the Premier League, they've bounced between 2nd/3rd divisions of English football ever since. Football outside of the US is unforgiving, which makes it so competitive. No drafts, to help out the little guys, it only takes one bad season and you're gone. That's the difference between the players, the fear of failure, even in the smaller nations.

[@ScouserGirl89]

as a brit, it worries me the cockiness of some americans when it comes to sport. the majority of the countries in europe and the world have one thing in common - football (soccer), for most countries it is their national sport and most played it in their streets as kids, honing their skills. i remember meeting up with my mates and having a kick about in the street, going to footie practice, playing it in school and this was all along being a ballet dancer on pointes. america is cocky in football (soccer) and they are lacking in many areas of the sport. the best league in the world in my opinion (not biased....much) is the english premier league, we have some of the best teams in the world and yes whilst we have a huge foreign influence, the major factor is all these players home countries main sport is football (soccer). there needs to be major changes in attitude for america in football (soccer)

[@keitht24]

As an American, I can tell you this. There's nothing insidious behind our lack of interest in soccer. We've seen the sport & find it to be unbearably boring. For this reason alone we have no interest in the sport. It's that simple, there really isn't anything more than that. Where it becomes somewhat toxic, is when foreigners act like our lack interest is somehow based on irrational hatred or because our mens team sucks. None of which is true.