I hate dual rectifiers... So I tried THIS instead

[@TaylorDanley]

Write More Songs With My Workshop - bit.ly/speedwritingdeathmetal

[@philfoster2246]

Hey man, I always and still have a love hate for the Rectifier...but what always worked best for me was an MXR 10 band in the loop...absolutely lethal! Never a boost...just EQ! Such a massive Improvement IMO

[@Fartrellcluggins69]

I think the only reason i like Mesa is because I'm 50 this year and it defined metal for ages. Now you can get that tone with almost any multi fx.

[@TaylorDanley]

Fair point

[@Basserino84]

I remember one of my old scene days bands was a big fan of Mesa amps in general, and then they got around to wanting to record a full length. I never really got what happened, but yea, fizz city with the tone that record ended up having. I think a fair amount of tone has to have a bit of flair that shows its sound isn't mainly the cabinet (boxy). But it walks a line.

[@nickcontabile]

​@@TaylorDanleyThe tonex Mesa pack is really nice for those "rare" Mesa tones, maybe check it out ?

[@Jayteaseepiirturi]

I think it might come down to finding the right parts and then the right speaker. :)

[@woochyna]

Didn't enjoy a single tone from this clip, but I have to thank you for reafirming my decision to get rid of my dual rec years ago.

[@wheresallthezombies]

Dude, it being a gatekeeper’s amp is spot on. I said I LOVE the clean and crunch channel and hated the distortion channels. the mesa crowd freaked out. lol. It’s true though I do love the clean and crunch on them. They’re amazing pedal platform amps. The recto recording pre through a Marshall power amp is amazing. Anyway, the synergy recto thing sounds better than any mesa rectifier I’ve heard: lol

[@flufficornss]

the crunch channel is so underrated especially if you pair it with a nice subtle compressor and a tight boost pedal(or 0 gain 10 volume OD, i honestly prefer this because then i usually get some coloring unique to the overdrive especially if i up the gain to 2-3 area) you can get some beautiful tones

[@TaylorDanley]

I’ve heard some incredible rectifiers, I’ve just never experienced it IRL. But yeah the synergy module does a really good job of delivering “that” sound

[@thet740]

I believe the Synergy is based on a 2-channel Rev G dual rectifier. Any of the 2-channels are where the magic happens. 3-channel not so much. Too much fizz in the highs and a very loose and boomy low end.

[@shaft9000]

Not really. The metal-head's basic issue with it is that the DualRec sounds best doing NOT METAL. My '92 dualrec sounded best in orange channel with the tube rec active - this is counter to tight metal rhythm guitar. It's far more along the lines of loosey-goosey Hendrix and heavy blues. Marks are much better for (classic) metal, due to simulclass' superior transients, the additional gain structure, and graphic EQ. MUCH better.

[@wheresallthezombies]

@@shaft9000 I generally prefer the mark series over the rectifier. Mark series have a killer distortion, amazing cleans, and everything in between. They also do the cool pedal platform thing really well.

[@juliansedor7101]

I will say I don’t use a real recto, I run Fractal, but the Rev F/G model is one of my favourites and I’ve loved so many rectifier tones over the years since I began learning guitar. OD808 in front, bass at 10’, mids and treble at 2’, presence at 11’. Keep the master low and gain no higher than 2’. Sounds great to me.

[@thet740]

I only got into Dual Rectifiers because of that Cannibal Corpse tone.

[@jonsierra723]

To be fair they do make them sound amazing, on the other hand I also like how creed made them sound too, and rammstein too

[@honigdachs.]

"Loose and wooly with ear piercing fizz" - that's exactly what I think of when the Dual Rec is mentioned.

[@beeemm2578]

Me too. I have a Sovtek Mig 100 thats dumps all over it.

[@robertritzenthaler3775]

Yeah and it’s awesome

[@shaft9000]

Mostly a matter of "doing it wrong" mixed with "wtf are you here for in the first place?". It's essentially a re-jigged early 90s take on an old Plexi, so why is anyone trying to out- Diezel-diddle _anything_ with a dual Rec?

[@honigdachs.]

@@shaft9000 lol

[@BARRICADE]

I've been using a 1966 VOX Westminster for the majority of my life. Nabbed it from a pawn shop in 98 for $200. If i put the volume on 2?, i could possibly evacuate my bowls if i stand in front of it. Tried all sorts of heads all manner of speakers, nothing quite has the thump and grind of this thing. The only time i had fun with a DR or TR from Boogie?, was at a music store in a different city with the head being jacked into a slanted 4x10 unknown brand cab with some greenback's in it. ALSO: HOW TF DO YOU ONLY HAVE 60K SUBS?. Keep on shredding dude!, happy i found your channel!.

[@27retrodaze]

Great work, TD... Love the Mesa-Boogie Biker Taylor from the early 2000's at a high school prom party... lmao!

[@Patrick-rf7vx]

Would love to hear it against your powerball. They are called German rectifiers (without the mid boost at least). Would love to hear how close they are.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah the thing I like about the powerball is the mid control. It reminds me of a recto when it’s scooped, but when it’s focused it sounds more like the sound I enjoy

[@Patrick-rf7vx]

@@TaylorDanley Video idea: without mid boost against the recto, with mid boost against the peavey module. Maybe it can match both?

[@johnwilson8543]

I had a 3 channel recto for over a decade and I loved it. But the shortcomings were many for sure. Once I moved to an old school death metal band I switched to a 5150iii el34 50 watt and couldn't be happier. Its not perfect, but deffinetly more versatility and aggressive gain then a dual rectifier.

[@TaylorDanley]

And just easier to get in the zone I swear. They made those amps with players in mind.

[@CrushingAxes]

PPS: Hopefuly one day the Bogren Digital stuff get's into the "real world", it would be nice to see a one knob amp!

[@jameskelly9269]

I like the Boomstick the best. Really brings out the mids in a good way \m/

[@TaylorDanley]

That's basically what that pedal is, a mid boost and sculpt control.

[@diabeticmonkey]

I agree about Rectifiers. I prefer the sound of the Mark series or even the .50 cal. A Mesa with a parametric eq is a good one.

[@cadenruda4159]

My dialed in sound on my headrush mx5 is a blend of either a dual rec or blended with a 5150 through a greenback IR. Best tone I’ve ever been able to dial in personally.

[@taylolz]

If you like 16th notes, get a 5150. If you like 8th notes, get a dual rectifier.

[@Blaze_1221]

As a 5150 iconic owner, Can confirm this is true

[@leonvalentine3748]

Please tell me more

[@iLikeD1rt]

Cannibal corpse enters the chat

[@FrostySnowman47]

I like 47th notes. 🎩🤘🏽

[@tylerpatterson3328]

So true!!! Honestly people don't understand that 1 amp doesn't fit all. 5150's have a nice tight compressed sound that helps keep flury of notes nice and listenable. With that being said the Dual Rectifier has that fat wide tone that leads it self to "slower" rifts. I would basically use a 5150 for something like metalcore/MySpace Deathcore, thrash, Grindcore, etc. And I would use the Dual Rectifier for something along the lines of Slam, down tempo deathcore, sludge, etc.

[@d.l.sstudio8922]

I love rectos, besides my EVH 5150 Stealth I think it’s my best amp. I boost my recto with a plumes drive. Also you have to know that the tone knobs eq shift as you turn the presence knob higher. Also you need to know that certain rectos have a whole different EQ curve. I generally treat my rectos like this Mids as Low mids Treble as high mids Presence as treble. If you treat the knobs like that you can get awesome tones for 7&8 string guitars.

[@h3lio5]

I echo your experience with Mesa. Over the years I’ve had a dual rec, mini rec, TC50, and a mark V, and the thing they all had in common was really making me feel like I was fighting to get good tones. They all could sound great, but I never had problems getting good tones with any of the 5150 variants, for example. So now I use a stealth.

[@nickharper8145]

I didn't get into tube heads until 2018 and the first two I were after was a Triple Rec or a Peavey 5150. I got the 5150. A few amps later (and playing in a band where the other guitarist utilized a Triple Rec) I got a Rev G Dual Rec. I am just not a rectifier fan. I like how they sound for some chugs but I do not like how they feel to play. Long story short happy I went the 5150 route. 😂

[@jamesrouse3466]

I have listed over a number of Mesa Triple Rectifiers over the last several years and briefly owned a Dual Rectifier Blue Angel 2×10 combo that I absolutely adored (I had to offload it back to the previous owner to help pay bills). Nowadays, I am more in the camp of the Peavey Invective 100, the Driftwood Purple Nightmare and the Diezel VH4... I would love to have the latter.

[@jonathanthompson9068]

When I played in Atheist I used a Dual Rec. I loved it! But then when I stopped playing in E and did my own thing I couldn’t get the sound I wanted. I don’t use pedals, even a boost. I ended up playing in all the lower standard tunings and now can’t beat the sls 5150 red channel.

[@alexandertorrente198]

Usually use something like this live! Other guitarist switches between (I believe) the red channel on a dual rec, and an SLO, going into the mesa 412. TS808 in front, OFC.

[@Le-Dormeur-Duval]

I love the 2 channel Rectifiers and I totally understand your opinion. I have began with a Rev G, and it sounds really fat and loose, very scooped and dark, it definetely needs a great boost and a 10 band EQ in my opinion. Since I do it (like every amp I have), I can extract awesome tones. But, I have discovered heaven since I have get a Rev F wich is more open, way more low mid grunt, very punchy and aggressive. Boosting it is awesome too. Even if they are similar they have big différencies to me and I am totally in love with that Rev F, doesn’t mean that I don’t like my Rev G anymore. Both are great amps. But even if I love these amps, you have to boost it and depending what version you have it can be very hard so dial in, wich is a shame for the price it costs.

[@endtimeguitarist]

That synergy module sounds 11/11. It reminded me right of the bat those album tones. The screech with the treble maxed out was like the taste of beautiful açaí. The rest was like blueberries 🫐,strawberries 🍓, and most importantly…raspberries

[@thet740]

The problem is that not all Rectifier amps sound the same. So many revisions have changed the overall sound of these amps. Try a 2-channel Recto preferably a revision F for metal. I have an early 3-channel and I can get it to sound good (to me) but damn those 2-channels from the 90s are where it's at for that classic 'album' style recto tone. I'm pretty sure the Synergy DRECT is based on a 2-Channel rectifier from what Fluff said in his video. Update: I see you have owned/had a 2-channel on your KZbin.

[@Le-Dormeur-Duval]

Owning a Rev G and a Rev F, the F is an absolute beast for big metal chugs, not so far from the Rev G I have imo, but has this extra push and back on the kick wich is very insane.

[@teamskdm1]

while your take on the dual rectifier is 100 percent accurate , those things are fixed by using el34 tubes for tightness and smoothness instead of wooliness and harshness the 6l6 brings , and also use a clean boost that cuts low end like a fortin 33 or a classic graphic EQ . this is common knowledge about taming rectifiers not secretive at all

[@ItzBruce-po2bv]

At that point, get a good amp that has high wattage. Glenn Fricker already demonstrated proof of tubes making no difference in tone.

[@teamskdm1]

@@ItzBruce-po2bv according to that asshat nothing affects the tone besides cabinets. But there is an extremely limited amount of cabinets that are actually used on metal records and everyone isn’t all sounding the same using them. Not everyone using gt75s immediately sounds like meshuggah

[@ManuSDP]

Want a scooped sound? Go solid state. Way cheaper, the chunk you want. I like the Recto only in modelers hahah

[@burtsgurt]

After having a Peavey XXX for multiple years, I plugged in to a Dual Rec at a rehearsal ONE TIME 13 years ago... Never played through another after that day. haha

[@Chainsaw_HM-2]

I have an MKI Single Rectifier… I use my 5150 Overdrive pedal into the clean channel because no matter what, that thing never sounds that great otherwise.

[@TaylorDanley]

Interesting. I’ve never heard one but was advised against buying one a while back

[@chrisvuk3053]

Thanks for being a cool dude Taylor! Since you're a sometimes old school solid state guy, keep an eye out for the Ibanez TBX150 head. It rips. Don't pay more than like $200 tops.

[@KeatonSilverBeats]

Line 6 Spider insane channel ahh tone

[@leep_]

I completely respect your opinion of the mesa rec sound! For me the Dual rec sound is one of the most incredibly visceral things ever and the amped dual demo actually made me stank face, but I can completely understand how it might be obnoxious to some. Thats what taste is! Everyone has their own taste and its perfectly fine to have a different taste from one another.

[@TaylorDanley]

You are way too level headed to be a guitar player. Are you sure you're not a bass player? 😂 JK, thanks man.

[@ianlahaye9476]

Same, man. I've heard some ruthless Dual Recs live, but when I finally get around to asking the artist which witchcraft lives on his board, it's always a great distortion pedal utilizing the beefy power section and not the amp shining through. Plenty of people make great sounds with them, but I hate them under my own fingers.

[@sauce_aux]

I have never had luck getting something I enjoy from a Rectifier. One of those amps you just tweak and tweak, but never find a happy spot. Mesa's are not cryptic amps. There is no special version. I agree; you'll always see rack gear if not a whole pedal board in tandem. Hot take; they're over implemented and constructed with little regard to some of the levels the circuit outputs. I don't care what albums they're used on. but, of course, im just some n00b who doesn't get it lol Edit to add that I would definitely snag that module, over an entire Rectifier, if I really needed that "mesa thing" Great demo, thanks for sharing with us

[@krangv2485]

Why have a Dual Rectifier when you can have a Peavey XXX AND a 6505 combined for way less monies?

[@megatodd707]

You’ve clearly got a great sense of humor. Min 1:20 😂 The ‘vintage’ setting after you tweaked it sounds pretty good. The ‘Medusa’ sounds killer! 🫵👍 I too do NOT like fiddling around. Just plug in and go. 😃 BTW- what is that guitar!?! Jackson Kelly? Home made hybrid? Beast from the depths of Mordor!?! I love it. ❤❤❤

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks dude, trying to add more humor into my videos! The guitar is a Debian Guitars Grimoire

[@sillyness3456]

@@TaylorDanley Debian Guitars, entirely Open Source...

[@Durkhead]

Ive always had a prob where if i like how open chords sound then i wont like how the palm mute sound so ill dial in a good palm mute sound then i wont like open sound

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah I hear you on that!

[@TonyHookedonVanlife]

Cannobal Corpse seems to make em work... triple recs, I think, but still. Soooooo much of recorded tone is down to speaker cab/microphone combos.

[@leonvalentine3748]

Everyone's playing style and touch is different, and that affects what gear is best suited to you. What I can say is that you are right about mids being a problem, and you pretty much need something like an OD or externa equalizer of some kind to get around that in most cases.

[@vanessajazp6341]

I got one of these Drect modules a couple of weeks ago and honestly I love it almost as much as my SLO module. The Drect is a bad boy (but in a good way 😉)

[@AtTheSourceStudios]

Put JJs in the power amp and it'll open up the presence with any of the modules. (Synergy owner here)

[@jcspaziano]

Awesome vid Taylor, I rode the hate train on the Rectos for years. Once day I saw on for a steal and I was in the moodo for some self loathing and bad financial decisions. So I bought it. Not I really love the "uniquness". What you said at @16:49 is 100% why it just kills in the studio!

[@K707OR30]

I’m only a minute in but the gatekeeper skit is so accurate. The hilarious thing about it is that once you have seen inside these amps and know how amps work in general, you start to understand how poorly built they are. Your struggle with dialing in Mesas isn’t your fault, it’s Mesa’s. They literally use under-rated components (IE capacitor rated at 400v that in normal operation sees 500v), the values are often just wrong (“designed” for a .1uF cap and someone put a 1uf or 10uf or .001uf cap in there), the schematics are either unavailable or don’t even have values for certain components or tell you which component is which, they use components not manufactured anymore, the traces and pads are microscopic, they’ll put a 500v trace 0.5mm away from a ground trace; and it just goes on and on. They sound weird and are hard to dial in because the circuits are literally not built correctly in a lot of cases and it totally screws with, as one example, the HPF/LPF crossover in the tone stack. And this sort of shit is what Mesa snobs are not only largely unaware of, but will excuse as “someone else not knowing how to dial in a mesa.” It’s ridiculous.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah I’ve heard this from several techs that hate working on them. Idk what I’m looking at inside, but looks complicated.

[@ALLforROME]

I was a huge Slayer fan in the 90's 🎉

[@Left_Hand_Path]

I use a spookyvibes fx night terror over drive on my dual rec and it’s so sick. Dual recs need a boost mandatory imo lol

[@heavybrett-al4082]

I enjoy every high gain amps ever made! To be honest I associate there tones to the evolution of metal/Rock, but being budget limited my whole life I find a way, with what ever I can get my hands on.

[@DarrenWaters75]

Missed opportunity to bust out the Pentademon... 😪😪

[@vincelupone]

You're the first one to actually show the modern/vintage switch is actually on the inside of the unit. That feels like a miss by Synergy compared to their other units like the Uberschall which had a lot of features built into the faceplate. When I've played with a rectifier live before, rhythm was red channel modern, and lead was orange channel vintage. Not being able to set one channel to modern and one to vintage is an unfortunate design choice here.

[@TaylorDanley]

I know I’m surprised more people don’t mess with them. The majority of the modules have them

[@MetalHeadProductions]

Nice. would love to compare this to my Rev G. The Synergy stuff is so good.

[@sepherus]

I love the Recto, but if you aren't into the typical Recto sound, they are VERY counter intuitive to dial in to do something else. The high knob is set to a higher frequency than the Presence knob. The EQ at noon is incredibly scooped. The EQ is all highly interactive, including the presence. On older 2 channel amps the presence is interactive between the 2 channels. There's a lot to not like, especially if you like things straight forward.

[@Seven7Pain1]

I kinda like the joyo zombie but I never played a actual mesa

[@kwk111]

I personally love Nickelback's heavy tone on the albums Silver Side Up and The Long Road. The Dual Rec sizzle really compliments those guitar riffs.

[@chaosandorderstudio]

I guess they compensated for the power amp effect of the rectifier with some EQ filtering. The sound of the rectifier comes from the power amp. Take the preamp off a rectifier, send it into the power amp of a 5150, and you lose that sound. While the 5150 into a generic 6l6 power amp (not the rectifier power amp) with a resonance control will still sound like a 5150.

[@TannerVW]

I've never gotten along with the Dual rec. My buddy let me borrow one while my 6505 was in the shop, and I was never really happy with it. Took a boost in front and an EQ in the loop to get remotely tight enough for me.

[@denverrandy7143]

Omg That boom stick in the words of the great Drew Barrymore is "Magical"

[@TaylorDanley]

It’s a good one! A lot of cool stuff coming this year 💪

[@aheadofmetal]

One other little thing Ive noticed with my recto; compared to a 5150 and marshalls, there is a dip in the 1-3k range and then a BIG spike from 8-10k that other amps generally do not have. Compared to my jcm800, the mesa actually has more mids (around 800hz).

[@krokmiten]

I can totally understand your feeling. For me it's the inverse, everything else sounds off to my ears. For instance the 5150 has this honk honk in the palm mutes that I hate. On an album it's alright but when I play one, I hate it. I could crap on almost every amps I've tried that isn't a Rectifier, except maybe a few ENGL models that are sweet.

[@FilipFichoBoshevski]

Dude, just recently found your channel and love your content! 🙂 So, Recto…2 words: Tremoverb + Fortin Grind/33…(ok, more than 2 words 😄). That’s IS the combo

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks! Glad you enjoy. Tremoverb might be the one variation I haven't tried.

[@Tgaddy314]

i've tried a Rectifier before but i truly didnt enjoy the tone that came from it. ever since i have used an Orange amp, i have gravitated towards them. being more on Sludge, Doom, Stoner style guitar player. i love the bottom end you can get from them and they take pedals well too.

[@Jayteaseepiirturi]

Heh. Yeah, okay, I get ya. If it doesn't work as is, I think it's justified to ask whether it's really worth the effort and the money. I used to want a 3-channel Rectifier because of the assignable FX loop... Nowadays, of course, the game has changed and getting to where I want to be is a different thing entirely.

[@dustinhopkins6470]

I saw a comment once that said this amp sounds like a very overpriced metal zone pedal. Sometimes I can’t forget about that.

[@Max-The-Axe]

Funny you say you wish an amp had one knob there’s a plugin by bogren digital digital where it’s literally one knob and it sounds amazing. I also hate dual recs but bogren digital’s dual rec plugin is actually super good for solos and leads. It’s called one knob

[@666warschau666]

Whats your Opinion on the M/B Stiletto?

[@mickeygiesbers8176]

I love the Dual Rectifier, it is one of my favorite amps, but what I've noticed lately is that I really love it when I combine it with a different sound. For example, I started using Tonex since a couple of months, I got the Mesa pack, so for my mixes now, I'm blending one of the Dual Rectifier presets, along with a preset of your Engl Savage pack actually 😂 Sounds really cool. I'm actually trying to figure out to maybe get a Tonex One to use along with my Tonex pedal and figure out some phase issues I have to maybe use that tone live too 😂

[@admgloval]

Cannibal Corpse use them(or used to use them?) with a Metal Zone as a boost which tightens it up and gives it a razor sharp tone. Also if you haven't heard any of the modded Rectifiers from Hermansson Amplification, check em out, they sound REALLY good! But I always gravitate to the Mark series amps for Mesa, they just sound better to me and don't NEED a boost to sound good like a rectifier.

[@brandonjackson5865]

I had a rectoverb 25 and thought I loved it I then bought a DSL20 and the two together were amazing but I found myself only playing the rectoverb with the Marshall and if I was only using one it was the DSL20 so I had to sacrifice one and the rectoverb went I only miss its clean channel and it’s blending with Marshall for clean and high gain. I’d love to have another darker voiced amp to pair with my dsl but I don’t think it’ll be another Mesa . I’m thinking maybe an OR15 or OR 30 would be cool paired up. I love a lot of rectifier’s tones but honestly the Marshall at 1/3 the price was far better for me. I’m sure the EL84 power section doesn’t help the lower wattage rectifiers and maybe a 50 or hundred watter is a completely different animal but it’s just more volume than I need 20 watt amps are a lot louder than I need. I think for the money if it’s got to be a Boogie a MK4 is going to be the best bang for buck boogie if you can find one for a decent price I remember when 800 dollars would get you a clean used MK4 but unfortunately the last time I looked at them they had went up close to double that.

[@jww732]

Like for example, youre an EMG player and fan , im not really a fan , but I love many tones related to EMG.

[@SnowTau]

Glad to know I'm not alone in this. I tried basically every amp sim under the sun recently, and every time I opened a Dual Rec I was not a fan. I have a mate who seemed to think it was the shit, but he has since sold it and replaced it as well hah.

[@ronnielobosmith4870]

My first real amp i owned i bought from a pasadena tx pawnshop in 89 for $150 they didn't have a clue what a Mesa Boogie simulclass mrk3 colosseum purple stripe this started my love for Mesa Boogie

[@withinthrall1445]

I have a screenshot of the “awoooga” on that video of Sophie’s and it gives me strength when I’m at my lowest

[@Hagstrom4ever]

The Recto poweramp is what makes so particular that amp. I owned multiple Rectos and I've ever eq'ed them into a range from 11 to 2 o'clock. Ever. The amp sounds sick at noon but the modern mode should be explained a bit to understand the Hate. 0 negative feedback = lots of bass and highs and scooped mids, but at the same time you loose the attack and the it's not as tight as an amp with lots of negative feedback, like a Mesa Mark. That's why.

[@jeremymccallisterDD]

Dude, that Jackson is sick!! 🤘

[@CorNigrum]

No man, I'm with you on rectifiers, been wondering the same ever since they were released (I'm that old...) Of course they've been always been more popular in American music compared to here in Europe, which probably has also a lot to do with the price over here. I know they've been used extensively in the studio, even in black metal releases, but heavily processed and filtered. If you're willing to tweak and EQ anyway, I think the Bogner and Fryette modules are easier options to get heavy sounds dialled in just like you want. Nice Bathory shirt by the way.

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks dude! Yeah they can definitely be cool with a lot of tweaking, maybe a better studio tool

[@DreadNovella]

Well for me there's not one amp that i don't use an EQ pedal on. In my opinion every amp doesn't sound like i want it to. Thats why amps like the dual and the 5150 are just closer to what i want. So yes the duel sounds awesome.

[@honeybadger1810]

I can’t stand dual rectifiers for metal. Even heavily boosted, not my thing. Ive even tried a mini recto which are supposed to sound great across the board. I love it for rock! Really sounds great at low gain with a boost, and I really enjoy the clean. I LOVE the dual rec for making really musical, atmospheric, interesting sounds. Adam Jones used one for all of those hazy, eerie tones on Aenema.

[@spastickitchen]

I love my dual recto. I never used any pedals with it. I always used super high output pickups, though- X2N's, EVO, etc. With low output pickups, it sucked. If a knob got jiggled, it'd suck. Weird acoustics in the room? It'd suck. Amp in a bad mood that day-it'd suck. But I used it exclusively as my live amp for 20 years. It's also on every recording I've done until recently (always with a Marshal JCM and usually a Peavey 5150 as well). Last year, I got an Axe FX, instantly, everything was much easier to dial in, sounded better, and just works better.

[@watcherzero000]

One thing I noticed in watching bands over my 45 years of listening to music in general. And that one thing is people were using whatever head except for Mesa Recto and had a Mesa Recto Cab. I can't even begin to count seeing guys using a Peavey 5150 or a 6505 and a Mesa Recto Cab.

[@spongebob6664]

This set up is on my Bucket list 👀👀

[@lostinpa-dadenduro7555]

The recto cab was the one to get if you could afford it at the time.

[@shaft9000]

They seem to have a way with dovetailing baltic birch. Not so fond of their aftermarket replacement wheel-caster situation, though.

[@jessehutchings]

I was so excited to try out the rectifier simulation on my effects processor simply because of the hype around them .. but basically right away I could tell that the distortion was not something I would ever want to use

[@cefalu63]

I always like the rectifier but never got one. Then the badlander came out and I bought one immediately. So much tighter. But gear is always a personal preference. I also love the diamond phantom.

[@Juppi13]

The Dual Rectifier had it´s place in the 90s/2000s and for me, it can stay there.

[@southernpanda33]

Yea, that’s the whole reason I haven’t bought one. They’re hard to dial in. Yes, let’s go with that.

[@NickySayahSina]

You do one video on Temu how you decided not to work with them and KZbin is like "Oh, here is commerical for Temu during your video!" Is it irony or bad analytics? Anyways nice video! Every time time I see your Deviant Grimoire I'm like "Soon... I will have my own verison..." rubbing my hands together like a cartoon villian.

[@TaylorDanley]

Haha thanks. I have no idea, I'm sure google sees people watching something with the brand name I will not speak to avoid these things, and they just assume you must like that and give you ads that are based off that.

[@andreisidro6544]

As someone who firmly believes you can make great music with almost any guitar amp, I totally get the rectifier hype and hate. It has a very distinct big but tight bottom end that sounds different from any other amp I've tried. Palm mutes through a rectifier sound massive. That being said, if you're not into scooped tones, you'll likely need to blend it with a marshall in order to cut through a mix. And is it worth spending 3k on an amp that, 75% of the times, is used basically just to thicken up a JCM800?

[@chrisloud1976]

This was great. I really liked the review. It was sitcom like and comical. I think the rectifiers just get very muddy and sterile sounding. I don’t hear any real guitar tone or articulation. Just dimed out distortion and overdrive. My favorite Mesa is the Badlander, before that it was the Mark 4.

[@7StringsOfCharles]

The classic recto is probably my all around favorite family of amps so I'll be in the minority in the comment section here haha. Honestly it's easy to see where people dislike these, it's one of the "slower" feeling gain structures out there plus the note clarity is clearly lacking compared to other more modern options there are around today. Moreso, digital models and ampsims also notoriously have a hard time capturing that specific amp's "thing" people like me rave about, and that "thing" really resides in 1) dynamics and 2) how well it responds to different boosts (and I'm not being anti-plugin, they are fantastic ! I use them very often even if I have several amps), and finally these amps got stupid, stupid expensive. All this doesn't help with opinions of people on the internet. BUT ! Where that amp shines in on recordings as you mentionned. It's on a crap ton of records and has been taken on countless tours across all the subgenres for good reasons : It's just a cheat code amp to track and mix heavy metal with, it just works. Leaves the right spot for vocals, is very dynamic so the guitar tracks always sound exciting since they "move" around, unlike something very compressed and "safe" like a Diezel that will just kinda ... be "there" in the mix, if it makes sense. The lowend, whilst huge, remains very very clean and it handles downtuning like an absolute champ, that makes for a super wide feeling wall of sound. The mandatory boost argument is bogus to be fair, because who doesn't boost their Marshall (or have a gain/saturation modded unit/clone, same idea ...) or 5150 to get that precise pick attack thing thats appreciated in metal ? As far as looking at it as a guitarist and not a guy that only pushes faders on a mix, to me and to most of the other recto guys out there, its very much about the addictive chug power and the generally scooped voicing they have. Digging in for that room shaking chugga chugga combined with the signature "chomp" sound (which I too get it, can be acquired taste) feels like it can never get old. Once more, in my experience, with all things I mentionned so far no other amps does what a recto does honestly, but it's not the be all end all "if you dont have or like that then you're a donkey". Don't forget people on the internet are often both very opinionated (cos the thing they spent money on *has* to be the best) and poorly informed/experienced. Its effectively one of those amps you have to adapt your playing around a little bit. As far as settings go, the two main things is to stay around noon on the mids and treble plus never ever going past 2 o'clock on the gain knob. Also, did you know the presence knob on channel 1 of the older 2 channel rectos affects channel 2 also ? Even if you're currently playing in the good old modern-bold-silicon diode settings ? It can definitely be percieved as a little whack design wise, but there is something similar going on with 100w EVH 5150III heads regarding gain knobs of channels 2 and 3, and I believe these are oh so praised by the general public. I think things like these make the analogue stuff still fun and relevant these days ... ;) I'm done yapping, I'm not really trying to convince, but just to share my 2 cents. Keep up the good work✌

[@TheSpineSplitter1990]

I never got alone with one either, In the fractal fm3 I have to use the input boost grinder and also a 808 drive in front to even make it tight haha.

[@TaylorDanley]

Luckily in the fractal gear you can do a LOT of things to it that you couldn’t IRL which help it out. Leon Todd always makes it sound 💯

[@vminator]

You know I always though they sounded like a sandblasting aluminum tone but I can't deny the tones that amp has produced. Clean channel was not great but was ok when pushed. All this to say, I much prefer a 5150 or 6505.

[@jasonshaffer7516]

I tried so hard to like the dual recto, I even bought one a second time, only to trade it back for a marshall jcm2000 again.

[@CrushingAxes]

Man I think the dual always need a ts8 in front, and I also think they really work on the mix, but if you're playing alone it does sound weird, I don't own any dual rects, I'm more into Laney and Marshalls, and man Peaveys are super classic, right?

[@Left_Hand_Path]

Also this video makes me really consider checking out those synergy modules. They sound pretty sick honestly haha

[@clarkkotte3069]

It's not vintage or modern voice for the cathode select. It just changes the cathode follower value giving different feel and matching the input value to that which would be on a real amp such as a marshall, fender, or soldano esque value. There really shouldn't be much of a difference tone wise.

[@TaylorDanley]

It’s called vintage/modern in the manual

[@andrewgoff5792]

Michael klein dybbuk pedal is my favorite 🔥

[@infinidominion]

Rob Barrett uses the TS9Pro+ with bass boost into his

[@Igorator42]

I like opinions like that! And I also like that little skit.

[@ricgalvezmusic]

Sick ass Bathory long sleeve brah brah

[@officialfanofrichiebricker8324]

I didnt know I hated that amp before. Its embarrassing. A friend is selling one and I was about to buy it. I always thought he had weird settings and had his action set too low causing alot of buzzing, so thanks for saving me some money or saving me from kicking my friends ass to get my money back. It sounds very non-harmonic or non- musical like running the signal thru some crumpled up newspaper an crumpled up tin foil. It probably keeps the government from spyimg on ya but attracts Aliens and dont ask what happened to Sigourney Weaver when she played thru one

[@RizzleK]

I also do not like Rectifiers. Never have. They're just too fudgy. Its not a thickness youre hearing. Its a fudge.

[@TaylorDanley]

I like that, I’m gonna throw fudgey into the vocab

[@RizzleK]

@TaylorDanley Haha. Go for it. Quick question; Was plugging into a Rectifier your worst gear disappointment moment ever? It was for me. Close second to the Seymour Duncan twin tube mayhem preamp pedal.

[@metalvisionsongcontest7055]

The Mesa Rectifier is the Microsoft Windows of amplifiers: A suboptimal amp that somehow became the most successful.

[@2hiptom]

I lost it on that skit 😂😂😂 and I agree with you I have a dual rec that hardly gets played anymore I enjoy my fireball or invective built in noise gates are the way of the future IMO

[@totalbullion5882]

Watch this channel , his Dual Rec Mods are insane. Hermansson Amplification