Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus + vs Srixon ZX5 MkII LS // Driver Bracket 2023

In the 2nd Match of the 2023 Driver Bracket, the Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus + takes on the Srixon ZX5 MkII LS. This match came down to 1 mishit!!! It was so so close, but only one driver can move on. Will it be the Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus or the Srixon ZX5 Mk 2 LS? All that, and more.........
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Thanks for watching the video Driver Bracket 2023 // Taylormade Stealth 2 Plus + vs Srixon ZX5 MkII LS

[@robbotronomer]

Loving the brackets and I know you go on the numbers but I'd take a ten yard loss for how accurate that srixon was. I'd love to see the new PXG in the brackets. Also looking forward to the next bracket

[@TwoZero00]

Love the series! I'll take the shorter drive in the fairway over being 20 yards further in the rough

[@ryanalley2446]

If only us "weekend warriors" had a swing speed like yours!! lol

[@ScottDreyfus]

Stealth is a launch monitor queen. I've barely seen anyone not hit it righter outside.

[@MXJEFF94]

I have the stealth 2 plus and I agree

[@gtobs3181]

You had a heavier 70gm shaft, so more control on the ZX5. But Stealth is a ball speed monster and fun to hit.

[@Chris.Cliver]

Also the half inch length made it more consistent as well. Clear trade-off between the dispersion and the distance on the length of shaft

[@chrisvankoevering3549]

I went out and got fitted a month ago for a new set. I wound up going with the Srixon over the Stealth. Primarily because of accuracy. I am in Michigan where we average 600-800 feet elevation and the difference in raw yardage was about 10 yards, so for the price and accuracy difference, the Srixon it was. My irons are Stealth though. I was very surprised too because I have always hit Taylor Made drivers and fairway woods. Shaft is a MCA Tensei AV Blue Link 65 45.5"

[@NewNineGolf]

Awesome to hear! That Srixon is deadly. You’ll love it on the course.

[@TheTater_]

Sirxon got screwed. Heavier shorter shaft and had that one major miss hit that wasn’t the drivers fault. I know this is about seeing forgiveness but that miss hit should’ve been a redo I think we all would’ve understood.

[@NewNineGolf]

Ya I kinda agree. We were trying to figure out what to do. So we took out the sky and Srixon still lost. I think if it won without the sky. We would've had to do OT. Haha ya I'm not sure why Srixon choose to go 70 grams with the x. I was hitting it more consistent though so might have to look into that shaft.

[@mvansb23]

I don’t agree. If you put a heavier shorter shaft in the TM it probably would be significantly more accurate. So it’s really hard to judge. The 1.47 vs 1.45 smash factor tells me the TM probably has a tad more potential. Also - the srixon has a very shallow face. So getting a sky ball isn’t that unrealistic. That’s a design choice by the manufacturer that comes with a performance trade off.

[@jetro7349]

@@NewNineGolf Would be curious to see a driver bracket where you subtracted an extra point for every missed fairway on the dispersion chart.

[@NewNineGolf]

That’s a good idea. Can look into doing that this year when we rank every driver at the end of the series.

[@TheTater_]

@@mvansb23 he hits that same ball with the TM it’s doing the exact same thing lol. And you put a heavier shorter shaft in the TM it will get more accurate but lose its distance. It only be the Srixon by 1 yard when he removed the sky ball

[@williamturner9450]

Great vid! I just found your channel with the Mizuno vs Titleist faceoff and was immediately hooked. As for results, its pretty much what I expected with Stealth 2. I just had my first ever fitting and tried it, and that thing could fly. It had insane distance even on mis-hits. Biggest issue was I had 0 control over where the ball went. Ended up going with last year's Rogue ST Max for the combo of performance and price

[@NewNineGolf]

Appreciate you coming back for another vid! Congrats on the Rogue!

[@mckenziemcgolf]

Not sure how I feel about the Srixon being eliminated the way it did. But I’m sure any KZbin channel can’t be bouncing the taylormade product in the first round 🤭 yes the Taylormade driver is long, but I still think there’s a forgiveness issue for your avg golfer. But I’m taking the low spinning numbers and forgiveness of the Srixon. Oh and not to mention the $100 in savings.

[@kadenbelcourt959]

I believe there should be more emphasis on the forgiveness/accuracy of the drivers. I think you should multiply the distance off line by 2 and then subtract that from the total yards. this would make it more important to straight and in the fairway then a mile up the road but having to take another ball out of your bag.

[@josephjames5362]

Great video as always…looking forward to the next matchup!

[@NewNineGolf]

Thank you 👊🏻

[@Jasontaylor369]

Thank you for going out of your way to get the Wilson in the bracket.

[@NewNineGolf]

👊🏻

[@7_0_sav5]

Geez I need a driver lesson from my guy here. First video I have seen of yours, love the data, subscribing

[@NewNineGolf]

Haha thank you! 👊

[@nickrawlings8436]

I find this interesting, everyone swings different, for me stealth 2 plus came in dead last for me this year. Using same shaft and loft not only was it 20 yards shorter but it was way less accurate than the ZX5 LS. It was 25 yards shorter than Paradym triple diamond and 28 yards shorter than Aerojet LS. I swing at 122 club head speed too, used a Ventus Black 7x shaft for testing.

[@ryajsmit]

Srixon looks good

[@NewNineGolf]

Ya it's definitely growing on me more and more. Haha

[@snwman862]

Price to performance the srixon is by far going to be the best driver

[@denniscai6895]

Awesome video. Hopefully you can put in PXG gen 6 in the line up. Heard many good things about this driver. Cheers

[@gcoffey223]

I couldn't hit the stealth to save my life. Ended up saving so e $$$ with a radspeed. Love it

[@yangendron1348]

Best reviews in town!!! Good job Brandon

[@NewNineGolf]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@devonmccalla498]

Srixon seems to be the better driver actually.

[@blakeg.1093]

Have to admit I was surprised by how close this was in the end. Really enjoying this bracket series.

[@NewNineGolf]

Close is an understatement! Glad you’re enjoying the bracket so far. The next video is a BANGER!

[@goutfromfriedokra3936]

@@NewNineGolf have you found improvement in your putting using the mezz?

[@NewNineGolf]

To be honest I haven’t been able to outside in 3 months. Still a foot of snow on the ground where I live. I’ll know next week tho.

[@mikec.2314]

YYC reviews at Modern! This Cochranite loves it.

[@jimhowell4282]

Thank You for the shout out

[@NewNineGolf]

👊🏻

[@verificacionnecessario9190]

Your editing is getting very good - you're going to have a big channel one day if you keep it up!

[@NewNineGolf]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@dylan5324]

Great vid. If anything you’re giving people a way to objectively look at numbers in their next fitting!

[@NewNineGolf]

Thanks Dylan 🍻

[@iLynx83]

I just got fitted last night, for context I'm playing to around a 1-2 this season and my numbers are 108-112 mph swing speed, 160-163 mph ball speed and my current driver is a Stealth w/ Tour AD IZ-6 S-flex shaft. The Stealth 2 was my 2nd worst head I hit, the Ping G430 LST was the only one I had worse results with. I ended up buying the Srixon ZX5 MkII LS w/ Ventus Blue TR X-flex shaft. This club wasn't even on my radar, I fully expected to walk out with a TSR4, Paradym, or Stealth 2 Plus.

[@NewNineGolf]

That Srixon is DEADLY! Surprised the crap out of me.

[@iLynx83]

@@NewNineGolf you and me both! I’m still having trouble comprehending it! Love the content!

[@NewNineGolf]

Thank you 🙏🏻

[@alanluo7911]

8.5 or 10.5

[@lederboard1955]

Might be better to alternate 5 with each driver during these head to heads. Takes away warm up bias. You were swinging faster with Taylormade and looked looser also. Just a thought.

[@NewNineGolf]

That's not a bad idea. I did a full warmup before so i was definitely warm. But I get it. Might try that to see if it messes with my rhythm getting used to a different driver every 5 hits. Thanks for watching and the suggestion. 🍻

[@mvansb23]

I had this thought after the first matchup. Which was also 1 to 1.5 mph difference on swing speed. But the 1/2 inch shaft different could certainly be a full mph. Some heads are also slightly more aerodynamic.

[@NewNineGolf]

I can say with certainty it’s the clubs (shaft length and head). I’ve hit them multiple x off camera with similar results.

[@chucksmerdon6256]

Always look forward to your bracket. One of the best on YT!

[@NewNineGolf]

Thanks Chuck!

[@mazingerz7962]

It will be interesting to see once the Driver test is compete to list them not in a bracket but as a score total and see the list and if its different from the actual bracket test results.

[@NewNineGolf]

We read your mind. Haha. Ya we're planning on doing something like that. Thanks for watching and suggestion. 🍻

[@jefflina8596]

after watching this video i think im actually gonna buy the srixon. personally i need the accuracy more than distance

[@NewNineGolf]

It's a very good driver.

[@fragheads6456]

Why isn’t there a calculation for going if the fairway. It’s far easier to hit from the fairway compared to off the rocks. There should be a factor for going off the fairway. Like rough should be a factor of 10-15% less because your next shot is not going as far and you have to club up. PLUS what about the rocks 😂 good luck even finding it because now your dropping almost for sure. Their needs to be a weight on those variables. Maybe hit 21 balls and drop the worst one. Then add those factors in there.

[@snodevlin0247]

Did you get PXG gen 6 into the bracket?

[@NewNineGolf]

Technically it’s not in a head to head but we just filmed a fitting for it so we will include it at the end of the bracket ranking all the drivers.

[@jakesells2379]

Wouldn't Total Dispersion be a better measure of accuracy than Average Dispersion? As an example, a driver that sprays balls equally 80 yards left and right will beat a driver that consistently fades or draws it 10 yards.

[@NewNineGolf]

You're right. We had to calculate it manually. Rather than letting the left and rights cancel out. We took each drive and looked at how far it was offline. Added them up and divided by the number of drives. As far as having one consistent miss. There's no perfect formula so I let you guys determine what's the best for you. Ie. If a driver is consistently fade bias, and someone that'd slices will want to toss that driver in the 🗑️. I think for the most part, this gives a pretty good indication of which drivers are straighter. Thanks for watching n the comment. 🍻

[@GRIFF22]

I wonder why the Stealth 2 is getting a bad rep? One thing I notice is that not many non contracted players are using it, its only really Adam Scott who's not under contract that I've seen using a Stealth.

[@ericfletcher2887]

Srixon had an average off center line by only 5' and Stealth had average off center line of 55', an ABSOLUTE NO BRAINER to choose Srixon because it is tough to make pars and birdies from the rough, 55' off center line is huge . Any Pro would choose the Srixon with this data.

[@NewNineGolf]

Not sure where those numbers off line are coming from but those are not the average yards off line for both drivers.

[@mattc3233]

Hey Brandon, of all the drivers you’ve used, which one would you say is the most neutral? TM stuff seems to be kinda fade biased but I don’t want a draw biased head either

[@NewNineGolf]

Ping G430 Max followed buy the Titleist TSR2

[@mattc3233]

@@NewNineGolf tyvm sir

[@emilmuhamad7131]

it is interesting to compare titanium/titanium with carbon/carbon head/face drivers' durabilityover years. will carbon driver maintain the same performance after 5+ yrs?

[@bryanhunter579]

Are you selling the rope hats?

[@NewNineGolf]

Yes they will be in our store soon along with a new cloths and gloves too

[@davepoulsen1007]

Wait - wasn’t the TM 9’ and the ZX5 9.5’ 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@ecliqxse9591]

2023 pga champion Brook Koepka , srixon 💪

[@lbieniek11]

you should hit 5 shots with Srixon then 5 with Taylormade. It looks like you got faster as you hit more shots and its not quite as fair for the first driver....

[@NewNineGolf]

I do this as I move closer to the bracket finals if you’re keeping up with the series.

[@jexuzz8757]

Was it not zx7 who is the low spin option?

[@NewNineGolf]

They have 2 low spin options and when I hit them side by side I had better results with the ZX5 LS. I have a full srixon driver line up review on my channel if you want to see those numbers side by side.

[@ryajsmit]

Need to kick the taylormade out

[@zacarich]

I sell clubs. Stay far away from Taylortrash. Tons of cracking problems.

[@bradshawsteeley9506]

leaving the sky ball in the data is invalidating it completely

[@NewNineGolf]

You saw me take it out right?

[@bradshawsteeley9506]

@@NewNineGolf comment was pre-emptive, i take full responsibility

[@michaelocean4788]

I don't like how you're subtracting the avg offline from the avg total distance to get a number to determine the winner. I think that's a very bad way to look at what's better. First, if driver A goes off line on the same angle as driver B, but driver A goes further, well, the yards off line will be more, so by not taking this into account, you are penalizing drivers that go further. Second, in your adjusted results at 13:10 a 350.04 at 27.55 off line is probably in a lot of fairways like a 337.5 yard drive and 16.08 yards off line, but that 12.54 AVERAGE yards more you got from the Stealth 2 Plus is nothing to scoff at, that can easily be a club difference into a green.

[@Mike_Torres_Golf]

or instead of hitting at Sea Level, I bring you down to Orlando to get a session with you and get a few rounds out of you sir.

[@NewNineGolf]

I'll definitely take you up on that when I make it down there! Harder to travel now with the kiddo.. 😔

[@ethanaderemi]

307.6 to 321 is less than 14, not "almost 20"

[@NewNineGolf]

Clearly not a big math guy. Sorry I’m not perfect 🤷‍♂️

[@Chris.Cliver]

I get that everyone craves distance, but if you are a golfer on course with any common sense you are looking at those dispersions and picking the Srixon 100% of the time over that stealth+2. I'm confused why you chose to move the stealth2+ on in the bracket after what you said at the end of the bracket. Is this purely a distance bracket? Should be clarified if so. No fitter would ever look at those two and suggest the stealth plus there in it's current state. They would at the very least swap shafts or shorten it down to compare to the Srixon apples to apples. But if this was an A or B rigid multiple choice test "as is" then every fitter out there is putting you in that Srixon. Period. This feels a little intentionally skewed because the larger market for the bigger brand name stealth2 plus will get more views later in the bracket. And that's coming from someone who games a stealth+ driver. Also the half inch length difference cannot be ignored. That will impact club and ball speed considerably. Typical rule of thumb is about 1.5-2 MPH of club head speed gain with 0.5 inches more length. Which equates to about 2-3 MPH ball speed gain, which equates to about 6-10 yards of distance.

[@NewNineGolf]

I tried to reiterate most of the problems you have with the video in it so I’ll try write them out for clarification. The bracket is determined by distance minus dispersion. The head to head math chart graphic we put up show the numbers and how winners are determined. This formula seems to be the popular way to pick a winner on channels much bigger than ours so we tried to follow suit. The difference in shafts and head lofts come from what is given directly from the manufacturers. Stock options are used because that’s what the majority of the public will end up purchasing. My hits are no different than a fitting you’d pay for with stock options. This formula seems to favour distance so we will have to look at another way for accuracy to have more weighting. I personally don’t care what driver moves on either way……just wait for our next video. I just pick this driver with the highest numbers based on distance minus dispersion. We are still learning so trying to make the best of what we have. We appreciate your feedback and will try to make these head to heads better.

[@Chris.Cliver]

I appreciate your efforts to compare these for the general public the way most will purchase them and it’s more than anyone else is doing in terms of free info to go to your fitting or pro shop with so thanks and don’t take my words too critically. Perhaps a better formula would be to say driver A went 7% further on average than driver B, and driver B had 30% better dispersion than driver A. Do some calculation to see how many additional fairways that would give you in a round. Large number stats can tell you strokes gained off tee by additional yardage and by being in the fairway so perhaps use this data to change variables in distance and fairways hit off tee to see which driver gave you more strokes gained off the tee? Just food for thought.

[@NewNineGolf]

I’m not a big math guy so even this is a struggle 😂 but we can look into trying something like that.

[@anmgify]

I would go for the srixon.

[@scottn5431]

Pretty ridiculous and unhelpful to use a different shaft in a comparison. Kind of like using different golfers with completely different swings. If you want to do a head to head comparison, the shafts should be identical. I understand trying to measure stock offerings, but most golfers are trying to determine how driver heads compare.

[@NewNineGolf]

Unfortunately if you went to the majority of golf stores to hit these drivers head to head, you’ll be using the same shafts I was given. We were at the mercy of their stock options because of the driver tip adapters. Until golf companies move to a universal adapter our hands are tied with their stock options.

[@scottn5431]

@@NewNineGolf Totally get it, but the comparison is published as a "head" comparison, which would have identical shaft if it was to be accurate. I appreciate the video, but think that using different shafts is misleading in a "head to head".

[@NewNineGolf]

The term head to head is used to describe a battle, confrontation or versus. In sports ie Mia Heat are going to head to head with Denver Nuggets tomorrow night. Wasn't using it in the literal sense. Sorry for the confusion. 🍻

[@TheDeepsilver]

It's not 20 yards more carry by the way. 307 to 321 is not "almost 20". It's 14.

[@NewNineGolf]

Heat of the moment talking on the spot. The data is there to refer to 🤷‍♂️ I’m only human.

[@jjackman2032]

You must be a blast to hang out with!

[@TheDeepsilver]

@@jjackman2032 yes, baffling that I can count :)

[@jjackman2032]

@@TheDeepsilver baffling that you care