To avoid any confusion... "The 1989 World Tour" is just the name of the tour. This performance happened in 2015, as it is stated in the description and on the video itself (0:13). Why is that the name? Taylor named her fifth studio album, "1989", after her year of birth, therefore, that was the name given to her forth headlining tour, in support of this album. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask.
@sylvainduret98802 жыл бұрын
Some people thought it was in 1989 XD ?
@TaylorSwiftTourExtras2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvainduret9880 you have no idea how many lol, even in this video
@horaciotrevino15182 жыл бұрын
Avril September 1984
@User47392 жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift is born in 1989 she cant be on the World Tour of 1989
@TaylorSwiftTourExtras2 жыл бұрын
@@User4739 did you even read the comment?? or the description?? if you didn't, read it again, for god's sake
@maimaz29103 жыл бұрын
As a 27 year old millennial, I find myself falling more and more in love with Taylor lately and this just tops it. This is the best collaboration I’ve ever seen and I found myself so emotional watching her let Avril shine yet supporting her in the best ways. Absolutely amazing
@Jonathanlenthang2 жыл бұрын
Yoh 27😁
@TheDiegoescobedo2 жыл бұрын
27 too! :)
@keithcanuto82962 жыл бұрын
gollen era 90s 2001
@MichaelLives172 жыл бұрын
27 & I actually remember vividly having my iPod passed around in math class in 7th grade and everyone making fun of all the Taylor swift and Train songs on it & going home and crying and deleting them and then rediscovering her at 18 (& Train they are amazing idc) and she was my hidden artist like I only listened to her in the car alone for years because i thought it was so “uncool” lol so random but yeah kids are mean 😂 now me and my 4 year old daughter rock out to Taylor daily on the way anywhere
@Lifewithkrystal662 жыл бұрын
Yess same!! I love this so much!
@warriorbard2 жыл бұрын
Having grown up listening to both Avril and Taylor, this collab is like a childhood dream come true. Petition for them to do more collabs together!!!
@sheenagallo67592 жыл бұрын
🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@Savagemode092 жыл бұрын
Omg yes same
@larissabewick63102 жыл бұрын
How lame!🤡💩🤪
@Biie176 Жыл бұрын
Yesss same
@carlosgarcia-wq4cw Жыл бұрын
Jajaja I am the 1000 like
@gracechen59052 жыл бұрын
wow.... two of the greatest female artists ever performing COMPLICATED together. This is something. This pulls me in the feels deeper than anything ever could
@lestiaa2 жыл бұрын
Do you know avril and Taylor are cousin/blood-related.
@jasonyntig7172 жыл бұрын
Lyric wise they are the greatest… but vocal for me is Mariah and Whitney. But not reason to bring anyone down. They are all great and they make the world a better place.
@andytn65072 жыл бұрын
@@lestiaa they are so far down the line you almost cant even consider it related, 12th cousins 1 removed. They had never even met before this.
@EdmundWChan2 жыл бұрын
Is like two shooting stars 🌠 meet in the night sky and dance and play together 🫠
@kayker1912 жыл бұрын
I'm just shocked noone has commented on 'COMPLICATED together'
@novacancy60002 жыл бұрын
I love how Taylor is letting Avril have the spotlight she's literally just singing & rocking along awesome 👌
@Ren_Ysidro Жыл бұрын
Well it is her song haha
@gabrielakui7998 Жыл бұрын
I feel like Adrill stole the spotlght
@jenellsaphid Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielakui7998 how? It's her song
@gabrielakui7998 Жыл бұрын
@@jenellsaphid well, 2:30 onward when Taylor Swift wants to follow the program, that's either the best acting I've ever seen or Avril just said "Screw that! We're doing this on the catwalk"
@jenellsaphid Жыл бұрын
@gabrielakui7998 pretty sure it was all planned. They start together at 1:40
@meggzilla0092 жыл бұрын
I love how Taylor looks at her fans like a mom who's excited she brought Avril to hang out with them 💗
@pepethefrog6809 Жыл бұрын
She does the same thing when bringing out Ed Sheeran in her concert in Berlin 2014. LOL
@VolleyballHighlights2024 Жыл бұрын
It’s her true millennial energy. I mean that in the best way too 😂
@MartianCZ Жыл бұрын
and Avril is older than Taylor 😂
@liv5612 Жыл бұрын
😂
@cms1381 Жыл бұрын
Love how big Taylor is and still fan girls for her favs.
@robertpalatsky50172 жыл бұрын
I love that Taylor is mostly just being fan and taking a backseat to support and enjoy the artists on her tour. Such a class at, but more than that, you can see she's just a genuine fan of every artist/song and doesn't want to take away from each performer's moment
@js703712 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Very very cool of Taylor. I remember when she sang “Summer of ‘69” with Bryan Adams in Toronto, Canada (Bryan Adams’ home country) and how she knew the song from her parents and it’s been one of her all time favourite songs since she was just a child. A true Queen and a Legend. ✨💃✨🙏🍻
@thehighpriestess8431 Жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift is just so classy and refinement. I absolutely adore her.
@Zimuahaha2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe this song is going to be 20 yrs old this year. I was probably too old to love Avril (early 20s) but I did, and I still do!
@artyb.channel74962 жыл бұрын
20 years? Bo wayy 😆 I feel a bit old lol
@saraflint29822 жыл бұрын
You're not too old. If you like her, you like her! No judgment.
@Zimuahaha2 жыл бұрын
@@artyb.channel7496 I meant to say that I was in my early 20's when this song came out 😅
@Zimuahaha2 жыл бұрын
@@saraflint2982 yaaaasssss! 🖤
@sparkdorable2 жыл бұрын
oMG 20 years 😂😂 but avril didn't aged 😂
@monexsharma3761 Жыл бұрын
i love taylor. she knows how to respect the other legends. she always invite other artists in her shows
@selena521 Жыл бұрын
Im so happy she always did that 😭😇😇😍💙
@latinadavis36917 ай бұрын
One thing about Taylor Swift, Beyonce, and Britney Spears, they are three of the sweetest female artists ever and Avril Lavigne is just a goddess!
@christinaaguileralegend3 ай бұрын
Yeah Taylor swift even said Christina Aguilera is the first CD she bought with her own money love she gives legends like Christina and Avril their respect!
@bagelbenji3 жыл бұрын
Dang its crazy how good Avril's live vocals are basically exactly same as track. Edit: Wow thanks for all the likes friends
@Verikae2 жыл бұрын
That's because she actually can really sing with out the music lol unlike some singers. There are some really talented people.. Christina Aguilera is another one who can sing with no music
@lililil42222 жыл бұрын
Same as Taylor’s and many other singers’
@nedababic88652 жыл бұрын
@@lililil4222 Guys there talking about Avril
@Jordan-df9qq2 жыл бұрын
@@nedababic8865 you know people can’t help to bring in other female artists when someone talks about their favorite. people have the urge to compare and contrast them for whatever reason
@nedababic88652 жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-df9qq So true!
@zarrlastimosa2 жыл бұрын
Avril never changes, her face and her voice, it’s like she never age. I was in elementary when i knew about “the avril” now that i am a working girl, she’s still it! ♥️
@r.a.cabrales16772 жыл бұрын
It's like she never grew up
@jmeseo1456 Жыл бұрын
Her voice changed now... bcoz of Lyme, but still beautiful!!!!
@VanessaKim-sy6xg10 ай бұрын
!!!!!!
@lokifrostpaw29769 ай бұрын
Here’s to never growing up
@litodelacruz94339 ай бұрын
She is melissa
@juergenwest Жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift is so wholesome.. love it.. she’s so happy and willing to share her stage with one of her idols.. it’s not a competition.. it’s genuine admiration..
@rachelcrepeault76172 жыл бұрын
i grew up with Avril and I definitely blasted Taylor when I was 15 and I still listen to both. this was like a daydream. 2 amazing, strong female idols performing together. So beautiful and the entire audience singing along to Avril gives me chills.
@_.itsnivea2 жыл бұрын
Same
@challaandfriends59622 жыл бұрын
Same, hopefully they can perform together again
@henriquebentes71872 жыл бұрын
Same
@analuciadeoliveiralopes94 Жыл бұрын
Continuo detonando Taylor. Amo a Avril para sempre.
@slashskii Жыл бұрын
You Lie
@rodbirch58762 жыл бұрын
This just shows how cool Taylor is. Wow. Performing with other stars and giving them props. Wow.
@ExtreMe-uk4lm3 жыл бұрын
90s kids will be going insane rn in concert..
@Verikae2 жыл бұрын
I bet they did haha
@user-ml4ps5cq3v2 жыл бұрын
Most of them are 90s in Taylors concert, she debuted in the 00s .
@youredelicious99452 жыл бұрын
Avril first album was in 2001
@ortizlloyd83782 жыл бұрын
not just 90s even 2000 era
@Alchemy87892 жыл бұрын
I’m a 90’s baby
@MichelleW34 Жыл бұрын
I love that Avril is one of Taylor's favourite artists too! I'm a huge fan of both. I saw Avril live last year and this is exactly how she sounds
@martinramirez44333 жыл бұрын
im 32 now but i grew up listening to Avril songs and Complicated was my song wen i was in High School "sight" good Memories if u are 17 and reading this message pls live u life and enjoy you senior years cuse time go really really fast and if u complain about waking up every morning to get to the School Buss just wait wen u get my age there is no time to get enough sleep cuse u need to go to work every day and do a lot of adult stuff but i enjoyed my senior years so i cant complain... cheers everyone :)
@levipb14033 жыл бұрын
I realize that now being 20 with depression, it feels like yesterday when it was my first day in high school...
@martinramirez44333 жыл бұрын
@@levipb1403 depression is a serious matter if u cant fight it by your self look for help and try to Relax a little bit listen some good music and enjoy time with u family i hope this helps i will pray for you cheers.
@jesskeepplaying2 жыл бұрын
this is so on point. now 31 and I have idolized Avril when I was in HS. she was also an influence to why I have always wanted to sing while playing the guitar. she had inspired me in so many ways. And now, I'm starting to like Taylor and appreciate her music even more and her as an artist.
@realpinkunicorn2 жыл бұрын
I'm 17 right now, very nice message thank u !!
@sagelovescoffee2 жыл бұрын
Same age here! And I agree with you!
@shubhisharma7442 жыл бұрын
The only two female singers who were a huge part of my teenage. And they both had a huge influence. So grateful for these two 💖. Seeing them together is a dream come true.
@ronaldrojas10682 жыл бұрын
It's so so cute the way Taylor hugs Avril. I'm in love🥺
@kflow1379 Жыл бұрын
Dude if Avril Lavigne randomly showed up at a concert i was attending and sang complicated I would literally explode
@jaodasilva19803 ай бұрын
My girlfriend looks like her. We listened to this song 20 years ago. Greetings from Brazil.
@alexg72542 жыл бұрын
I so wish there were a studio version of this, or that they would collab elsewise. Their voices complement eachother very nicely.
@bolakutendang30492 жыл бұрын
I hope soooo
@tiasnails35522 жыл бұрын
they’re almost counterparts to each other. complicated and the way I loved you sound similar, Mary’s song and here’s to never growing up, and skater boy and the outside have the same starting instrumental
@pumpkinspicelatte44482 жыл бұрын
@@tiasnails3552 And Change sounds very like an Avril song!
@nurulaidamsh89262 жыл бұрын
i so wish there were people who answered mine w/out I'm telling any. I'll keep it very nicely dis time.
@jamesyeh71062 жыл бұрын
An Avril feature on SN TV vault track would be a dream come true and a perfect fit
@mariellaofc Жыл бұрын
I love how Olivia and Taylor both sung this song with Avril on their tours
@ShermanCassidy2 жыл бұрын
These two are the reason I started playing guitar. there were not many female artists who played their own guitar. I love them.
@bolakutendang30492 жыл бұрын
The sameeee
@vikashprajapati80772 жыл бұрын
It's been 3 days I started learning guitar
@MegKampen2 жыл бұрын
It was Jewel For me!
@mara_aa_2 жыл бұрын
Look, sameeee! I was 10 and trying so had to play everything they released in the early 2000s/2010s And I started listening to country and punk because of them, still do.
@tytell77 Жыл бұрын
Meredith Brooks, Melissa Ehteridge, Heart, Joan Jett, a long list.
@bkkim61862 жыл бұрын
Complicated definitely has a Taylor Swift vibe from the lyrics to melody everything
@davidmueller93423 ай бұрын
Jar of hearts as well
@srcha_iyuh3 жыл бұрын
A collab we didn't expect
@tataydaily Жыл бұрын
This is the two best female artist in the world in one stage. A dream come true, it gave me goosebumps and the way Taylor lets the crowd enjoy the song for Avril, its like the best thing that has happened in the world baby!
@gaddawnc2 жыл бұрын
Best collaboration I've ever watched. I really love Avril cause she's cool as she is and I love taylor the way she is, and now the two female singer whom I really love collabed. This is a really amazing collaboration
@khairulbasirrudin7322 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I felt goosebumps and actually smiled..and i watched a lot of collabos..this has something special..
@カズキ-k3q5 ай бұрын
イイね
@ccroseofficial7 ай бұрын
i love them both
@sultanali18632 жыл бұрын
taylor and avril performing together screams power
@joeleviackerman4124Ай бұрын
Avril lavine. My childhood ❤. Now im 30 years. First listening to avril when i was 15 yo ❤
@christinef23143 жыл бұрын
Taylor and Avril are two of my favorites 😍
@JustMe-us2jy2 жыл бұрын
Me too
@lupitaalvira35312 жыл бұрын
Same
@unirax86282 жыл бұрын
same
@yujielai2454 Жыл бұрын
Yes🎉🎉🎉
@geoffworsnop5726 Жыл бұрын
Can I join you guys 😐
@bytacc6 ай бұрын
Avril is a damn legend. Still popular with new songs, filling out arenas and so on. After 22-23 years doing this! True Lengend & Queen! Her songs will never die.
@hayleygonzalez50922 жыл бұрын
Avril was one of my favourites back in the day. She looks exactly the same....ageless, just as her music is. I love how Taylor is such a geek and a legend at the same time. Love Story still my favourite xxx
@doni24112 жыл бұрын
always fall in love the vibes of avril lavigne voices
@kb98472 жыл бұрын
Love Taylor spotlighting other artists. One of the things that makes her so cool!!
@MiKa-bz2xg Жыл бұрын
Taylor Swift and Avril Lavigne, Two insanely beautiful singers !!!
@catleaxmas54162 жыл бұрын
these two women shaped the highschool me and to see them on stage together?? i literally got chills
@matthewcoleo Жыл бұрын
Taylor is like “look kids mommy got Avril Lavigne to come sing for your birthday!” Love how she showcases guest artists…especially LEGENDS like Avril Lavigne!
@victorbriceno37303 жыл бұрын
Im just as excited as Taylor right now lol
@loukaspappas8476 Жыл бұрын
When two of your idols perform together hugging around. PRICELESS
@faiyiuwong24112 жыл бұрын
These two singers are my favorite idols and her song named "complicated " I was listening again and again when I was in high school !
@DanielSouza-oh6lq2 жыл бұрын
Avril Lavigne e um patrimônio mundial, pena que no rock in rio não teve reconhecimento merecido, sou fã dela demais❤️
@mkay69692 жыл бұрын
I remember being a huge fan of Avril Lavigne. I used to go the library to use the computer and watch her videos cause I didn’t have a computer! 😢 it’s emotional even talking about it. But how I loved it!!!! It was EVERYTHING to me. I also got my first rocker ring belt cause of her, oh how I begged my dad to get me one. ☺️ my first CD album 💿 was “Let Go” I also loved “Sk8er Boi” !!!!
@jinyiduan25462 жыл бұрын
Same here dude
@np75292 жыл бұрын
me tooooooo
@kangkang15602 жыл бұрын
Same here❤
@antonynyquispe23132 жыл бұрын
Gran relato :3
@harshitabhuyan88922 жыл бұрын
I live in India, as a teenager we didn't have access to buying original records here, i also didn't have internet. I remember listening to her songs after downloading them from an internet café. And i became a huge fan without ever watching a single music video. My mind was blown when i saw the video of "Girlfriend" on my friend's computer(who had internet), I remember literally buying a blank CD and running to her house the same evening to burn the song on the CD. Gen Z would probably blanch at my comment. Lol.
@hipidipi20157max2 ай бұрын
I love what Taylor Swift does inviting many other artists on her tour. Would be great if others copy that
@Imfranticc2 жыл бұрын
Two queens on one stage
@Moderndaydorothy152 жыл бұрын
10 year old me who was obsessed with both these artists is quaking rn
@coletravers67172 жыл бұрын
Literally my 2 favorite artists im sobbing
@azjatyckidorsz90342 жыл бұрын
Watching my favorite female artists together is the best! I love both Avril and Taylor, it's just amazing ❤️
2 жыл бұрын
This is so cute, how i fangirling avril lavigne since the first time, as goes by become swifties are the great destiny, then knowing taylor is a blackstar as well is a really amazing :)
@cartooncentral2632 жыл бұрын
Two legends singing a classic Avril Lavigne song together! Just what the world needs in these troubling times! 🤩🤩🤩😁
@ronnydeleon77112 жыл бұрын
Punk rocker and pop country solid.. avril and Taylor forever.
@frogtownroad91042 жыл бұрын
Can we point out how on point the band is? Holy hell
@cheyennehaughie36892 жыл бұрын
I'm 14 rn and literally living on Avril Lavigne music. I can't help it tho she's literally the queen of soft rock.
@florence.0662 жыл бұрын
Imagine being there listening to two amazing wonderful artists at the same time, Avril and Taylor are amazing 😭
@kennybauernfeind18392 жыл бұрын
I'm infatuated by both of them. Avril lavigne is the best thing that Canada ever produced Hands down
@jp30322 жыл бұрын
True
@sanevoice37232 жыл бұрын
Bryan Adams doesn't agreed.
@nedababic88652 жыл бұрын
Avril, and Bryan Addams
@auandaily2 жыл бұрын
@@sanevoice3723 who?
@Ryanrea20022 жыл бұрын
Rush, Bryan Adams, the Weeknd, Celine dion, Neil young, Alanis morissette
@SCARASLEFTARMPITlel Жыл бұрын
Facts: Avril used to sing Country Songs when she was young. Taylor, started as a country singer. Amazing 💕
@leanneangedelhinojales74022 жыл бұрын
This is a dream concert for me if I was there. Like omg, that's my two favorite singers on the burning stage!
@Them33znation6 ай бұрын
Ahh my 2 favorite artists singing together this is amazing!
@purpelle232 жыл бұрын
I need a vault track with Avril!
@fhafha33842 жыл бұрын
My 2 favorite Singers all of the time in one stage. Incredible!!!
@idgafwarveteran62 жыл бұрын
NO BC AVRIL NEEDS TO BE ON A SPEAK NOW VAULT TRACK
@MegaXavi9992 жыл бұрын
They could make a sister for Better Than Revenge 🛐🛐
@glitznglamourxoxo9 күн бұрын
They need to collab for TS12
@AbnormalAbbi2 жыл бұрын
How have I only just discovered this. Like my two most listened to artists.
@loliliketoeatcake76542 жыл бұрын
Ok ok HOW does avril have SUCH A STRONG HIGH CHEST VOICE?!?! She’s awesome, aaa
@mikemarchialette2 жыл бұрын
Now Olivia brought Avril to a show.... I think this means something in store for Taylor and Olivia
@loliz20822 жыл бұрын
Avril is part of my live 27 now but still keep listening to her and keep myself young inside ☺️ #
@tleigefer5302 жыл бұрын
The entrance of Avril is so cute. With that adorable smile and "Uh huh" 😍😍😍
@melodywolf34222 жыл бұрын
Two of my favourite singers are together, that's amazing!
@evermoreboi2 жыл бұрын
i cant stop smiling 😍 it's so great to see two of my favorite artists singing together
@julqmt2 жыл бұрын
Why Taylor's voice suits in verse 2 of Avril Lavigne song😍 Happy to see them both.
@kawaiikhai1342 Жыл бұрын
Petition to do more collabs of Ms. Avril and Ms. Taylor soon! They both are my most favorite artist of al time!
@antoine73343 жыл бұрын
2 femmes magnifiques 2 super chanteuses ( 2 lovely girls / 2 great artists ) Ca devait juste être trop beau à voir ! Please a HD version ?
@TaylorSwiftTourExtras3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but there aren't many videos of this performance in HD, only two (that I could find), which I used in this video. I always try to make these videos as high definition as I can, but sometimes is just not possible, unfortunately :(
@antoine73343 жыл бұрын
@@TaylorSwiftTourExtras i search for 2 min on you tube and I find only yours attractive ( and you have the best length ) (Sorry for mistakes in english) But great video anyway !
@TaylorSwiftTourExtras3 жыл бұрын
✨Thanks! (and my english isn't that great either hahaha)
@teddyyama12122 ай бұрын
最高コンビ!ありがとう😊こんな素敵な映像見れて幸せ❤
@xiagobrownie8522 жыл бұрын
Two legends singing feels like always cold December with a lit touch of summer ❤️
@eyrvan48512 жыл бұрын
I've been following Taylor Swift since 2009 and this nostalgia is overwhelming 🥺
@pierdoletoo2 жыл бұрын
That's... My teenage icon meeting my current icon. Can't be more iconic than that 👑👑❤️
@bennykugger1516 Жыл бұрын
This is a special colabs.. Taylor Swift & Avril.. with the songs that never gets old.. "Complicated".. I really love it❤
@tiasnails35522 жыл бұрын
i love this so much! a lot of both their songs to me sound like different genred versions of each other to me so this is so cool
@kravitzd23962 жыл бұрын
Olivia literally following Taylor's steps
@paulb7458 ай бұрын
Nothing new there…
@dongminrodriguez5 ай бұрын
She also invited Avril?
@azecarbs78072 жыл бұрын
1989 world tour is really the best! My two favorite artist in the house! This is so great Taylor! Thank you for this! Love you Taylor and Avril! 😘😘
@audramuth4147 Жыл бұрын
This is why I like Taylor . She supports other artists. Doesn’t tear them down, gives them some of the spotlight . There’s enough to go around . She’s much like Myself . Wants everyone to be happy
@unedarma7483 Жыл бұрын
Two superstars meet in the one stage ..amazing concert super fantastic performance
@rebvanwinkelstein2578 Жыл бұрын
The guitar solo at the end is just so lovely ❤
@youtuber33282 жыл бұрын
to keep being COMPLETELY honest i really really LOVE avril lavigne as a musician
@tawhidahmed94402 жыл бұрын
two of the best artists I grew up listening to. They are my heroes.
@arnulfobudiit1152 жыл бұрын
feels like a dejavu when olivia and avril perform the same song in sour tour
@halimaomar98202 жыл бұрын
Love how she's a super fan too who geeks out at her favorite artists.
@munchocrisps2 жыл бұрын
This shows Taylor can be friends with almost any Celebs, same goes for Avril 🤟🤟
@timandallthatjazz2 жыл бұрын
Cuteness overload!! 🥰🥰🥰
@kaylaireland26232 жыл бұрын
I love how Taylor is just 'fan girling' over performing with Avril! I'd feel the absolute same way to have that opportunity with either of them
@asholinares14992 жыл бұрын
it's so heartwarming seeing my two favorite idols standing on the same stage
@natashakershaw5581 Жыл бұрын
Their voices are so hard to tell apart!
@singularity45182 жыл бұрын
The fact that avril sounds so good here despite having lyme at the time is insane. She's such a wonderful singer
@javintv55642 жыл бұрын
This gives me chills!! Two of legendary singer in one stage! 😍
@danl4222 Жыл бұрын
Just it a year later. I loved their combined voices.. it kept getting better and better ..likely because the sound guys kept tweeking the mix. Loved it ladies!!!
@369tayaholic52 жыл бұрын
both are my favorite singers ever 🥺💜
@warrenpeterson60652 жыл бұрын
Avril Lavigne was on the top of the charts and then caught lyme disease unfortunately. It is very nice to see her making her way back and for Taylor Swift to give her a helping hand. Absolutely love it!
@annemjohnson99562 жыл бұрын
LOVE THIS!!!!!!! LOVE when icons can really really get to enjoy performing together, this is when it's truly about the fans and the music!!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@DriverAlexProTeam10 ай бұрын
what an amazing outro!
@michelleg.45872 жыл бұрын
Love Avril, I rocked her music back in the days and she still got it😍
@nahariaalamada71694 ай бұрын
Taylor swift is the Avril Lavigne version of this generation.