TBC Classic - Avoid the Original Pitfalls!

[@PapaGutArchive]

$100 Preach ends up playing it.

[@Fed034]

Make it a 100€ and I'll take u up on that bet

[@Permuh]

He'll see BT come out and feel the need to get warglaives. It's almost inevitable

[@2ndcitysaint52]

not so sure i know alot of tryhards from tbc that arent gonna play it, tbc isnt vanilla, it was amazing to play through at the time but i dont see a reason to go back. With hindsight in mind outside of kara the raids are pretty shithouse when you compare it to any other expansion, like hyjal is objectively the worst raid of all time and it doesn't help the expansion's capstone event is sunwell another underwhelming raid with hindsight in mind, im not saying tbc classic wont be popular, but i can see what a lot of nolife tbc vets will take a seat on this one.

[@PaulAndersonENG]

@@Fed034 Mmm How much is that in real money? (£££££)

[@Broni34life]

tfw he played on opening day

[@blaaablubber]

there is an addon called "attune" which lists every attunement, keys, where to get them and what you need to do in order to enter the raids

[@omensoffate]

Lame

[@OldSchoolMinded]

@@omensoffate yes because alt tabbing or using another monitor adds so much more depth. Stfu classic andy lmao

[@serge2cool]

@@OldSchoolMinded idm the alt-tabbing. At least we can do that in today's world if we want 1 less addon cluttering our game.

[@poostache7707]

@@OldSchoolMinded imagine not having 2 monitors

[@neehime6]

@@OldSchoolMinded alltabbing?? Real og tbc players used pen and paper to write all the shit you had to do at the game before playin...

[@thefalal285]

MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN YOUR GROUP IS ON THE SAME STAGE OF “THE RING OF BLOOD” IN NAGRAND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

[@johannhowitzer]

I mean, yeah, but honestly, Ring of Blood is so much better than stuff like Jail Break. You're not screwed out of the useful part of a dungeon run if someone clicks too fast, you just have to wait a minute or two and regroup.

[@williamshore6355]

So many times this was ruined for me by one dipshit but it seems like most get it at this point.

[@CeilingPanda]

So turn off auto accept and auto complete add-ons I assume? (asking to not screw people over)

[@Ecliptor.]

@@CeilingPanda nah the guy you turn in and the quest giver are different, it's very hard to fuck up if you put 1 person in charge of accepting the quests... yet always some dumbass manages to screw it up haha

[@thespheregridisrunonchemtrails]

"I had such fond memories from TBC" *proceeds to tell absolute horror story from TBC*

[@Jabarri74]

I had to kick one of preach's best friends coz he wasn't attuned to the eye and some other drama. One of my best memories was doing shattered halls timed and the healer died to the whirlwind I combat rezzed in a corner as a feral tank and got them attuned

[@josejuanandrade4439]

Those "horror" stories usualy happened in the middle of a sea of laughs in ventrilo. And most "bad" memories become fun memories over time. ATM we may be angry, but years later, are the memories we remember the most, and that we laugh the most at. I for example. remember that SSC run where after our 10 mins break, our main tank warrior and his brother (mage) had not come back, and we waited for like 15 mins, and then their mom spoke in ventrilo (being a guild of real life friends we knew her) and she greeted us and told us that both brothers *were downstairs eating dinner* and we were all "wtf you pieces of shit!" but laughing.... Also that tank used to be sorta terrible sometimes because he had live messenger open in the other screen to chat with girls... so the RL would yell at him to close the messenger app, and one time he said "is closed!" just to then be betrayed by the "ding" sound characteristic of the software when you got a reply and we laughed our asses off the whole night and made a meme of that for the rest of his life!

[@TheAssirra]

the horror here was just people being lazy though. The fault didn't lie with the expansion itself but with the "do everything for me cause i am part of the team crowd". If you played legion you might know the balance of power questline. That is what attunement was in TBC.

[@serpentsaurus7969]

The part about people dragging their feet on attunements is 100% true. I was an officer and tank in a raiding guild and it always annoyed me when someone who never said anything suddenly complained about "not getting help with anything" on raid night.

[@HorusHeresy1982]

The only one I had trouble with and specifically had to ask in my guild for help with was the Shattered Halls timed run. Everything else was just questing or could be pugged for the heroics. Frankly I don't know how people could fall behind doing them.

[@serpentsaurus7969]

@@HorusHeresy1982 There was this weird thing on my server where people were convinced warriors couldn't tank Shattered Halls and it made it hell for me to get anything done lol

[@lv100Alice]

i would put 1000£ preach is gonna play at least a little bit of tbc

[@cammywammy420]

I would guess he caps his warrior, and either pugs or casually runs with friends But I bet we never hear about it lol he talked about how he liked farming Gruul in a previous video, so I would be very surprised if he just skipped on the chance to do some of that stuff again

[@Drukhyr]

preach hoping his new hair gunna end up like the thumb nail

[@HangmanVa]

I don't tune in super regularly anymore, but I've watched a few recently though. What is up with homeboy's hairline anyway? I'm a bit in the dark here.

[@meowmixx8899]

@@HangmanVa he got hair transplant surgery

[@HangmanVa]

@@meowmixx8899 No shit? When did he do that?

[@margidda]

@@HangmanVa he did a video about that, some months ago, go check it

[@nickolasroper3237]

TBC is the best gaming I’ve ever had. I had a group of 7 RL close friends I worked with and we gamed every night and it was the best time of my life. I was a Feral Tank and loved every minute of it. The term guardian didn’t exist back then. Downing Kael’thas pre nerf on chogall server the day my daughter was born was the best moment and feeling of my life.

[@Bollibompa]

Wut? Did you miss her birth to down a boss?

[@nickolasroper3237]

@@Bollibompa my wife was having contractions all day, she wanted to stay home as long as she could manage. When they got 3-5 mins apart, we left. It was literally after we downed him the first time. Good times.

[@Aethelhald]

Same. I went in to it with a group of online friends who had all been playing together for around 5 years. We first met in Battlefield 2 where we were in the same clan, then we moved to WoW in late 2005 and played together all through TBC (didn't get to do endgame stuff in vanilla because we were only just barely hitting level 60 when TBC dropped). When you say TBC was one of the best times of your life, it's the same for me. That's the thing about WoW back then - it wasn't just a game, it was literally a second life, a second world you lived in. I genuinely feel sorry for people who never got to experience it. When I'm old and my time's almost up, I'm going to be thinking of those years in TBC (among other things, of course) as some of the best years of my life - an experience I wouldn't trade for anything in this world.

[@spof465]

It do be stellaris music doe.

[@toney001]

I noticed too! Had to put my ear to the speaker to know for sure...

[@Freelance170]

I barely heard it, but it's great. Stellaris be vibing doe.

[@khanosji9908]

This video feels like Preach is giving me dad style live advice... I like it, ANOTHER

[@syzygy2464]

"i dont have anything to take out of it" I dunno I guess thats you but I for one LOVE being able to replay my favorite games and since I spent these last 16-18 years thinking I'd never be able to play classic and TBC ever again and now we can, I'm as pumped as I can get to do my "second playthrough". Especially to witness it from my older adult perspective. I was in my early 20s the first time around. My life is much different, much more stable now.

[@jazzdomi4364]

The Elemental Plateau in Nagrand will be pretty crowded lol

[@Cyriuxa]

We got ourselves a gankfest!

[@jazzdomi4364]

@@Cyriuxa Halaa is for Plebs

[@roberthansson8222]

Layering will still be a thing though.

[@AkromaStrategy]

People going to be doing it as a group probably

[@Idividezero]

That's an understatement, lol I was on a PvE server in TBC, and that place always had at least 2 people there. I imagine (sadly) that it's going to be perma-botted shortly after launch.

[@matthewdiaz6478]

This is where my wow journey started and I didn't finish all the content when it was fresh. Can't wait.

[@TheAssirra]

I have the exact same feelings about TBC. It was my favorite expansion but i don't want my memories tainted. I done all i wanted and i hope people will love it.

[@kekelapp0r]

Why would your memories be tainted if it was your favourite expansion?

[@TheAssirra]

@@kekelapp0r Because memories are rose-tinted. I do know that but the times are completely different. I was a kid in school back then that could play all the time and pressing the same button over and over . I was a holy paladin back then and you had 2 buttons. Nowadays i wouldn't be able to stand it not to mention a lot more experience so why taint it?

[@NeptuneXVI]

First time playing TBC, having a blast. Thank you for all the information!

[@jcd7583]

Preach, hopefully you will get a chance to enjoy TBC anonymously.

[@theheadone]

I loved TBC as well, My group in the guild got the server first Kara clear, it was super exciting! You definitely brought up some good points too. I played a little on a private server, once I got to max level, I realized I had forgot how much of a grind it was (rep was the one that stood out the most to me). I failed a lot of classes in college because of this expansion, lol. My friends I use to play with during TBC want to go back and play it again...we'll see... Also, heroic shattered halls was no joke, lol.

[@drakkar7955]

Yep, feel this. I was a guild leader during TBC and I can't tell you the number of times I had to deal with drama because "I wasn't invited to do my attunements".

[@yolover111]

Gotta understand, if the guild promotes helping all, then all you see is the top5-10 close people helping each other, then look around at the rest of guild "like y'all ain't ready" Like no MF, I have to pug,and thought we all would be helpful. But there will be that 1 guy that doesn't even know what attunements are lol

[@Bollibompa]

@@yolover111 You need to ask for help. If you have asked and they never answered or said strictly no - there's your rebuttal. The problem is that people with your attitude don't even ask. Preach said as much and explained how he offered help to all guildies.

[@yolover111]

@@Bollibompa I have been in both type of guild dude, more of the one I wrote tho, where they help their close circle and expecting everyone to also be ready, after saying they help. When your in a guild that don't care what you need, just get it done. Those are the ones I flourish in and really cherish. Haven't had that since wotlk. For me.

[@Iggybart05]

i was one of the two main tanks for my guild, i had 1 healer i ran with most of the time, but other than that i had 3 dps slots always opened to do attunements when needed, we even hard carried people. i still remember people complaining that no one helped them. and i vividly remember the time other guildies jumped down someone's ass on my behalf. "this dude does 2-3 heroic dungeons a day, is fully geared and doesn't need anything so he does what people request, if you haven't got your attunement done you're an absolutely lazy fucking cunt". it was glorious lol

[@fnordcola3226]

Preach really keeps outdoing himself on the unsettling image edits

[@thejollysloth5743]

I dunno why you don't just have a bit of fun with TBC. You are more likely to make some new memories than taint your old ones.

[@timm9559]

Love the video preach. I unfortunately, was one of the people who waited around hoping people would drag me through things, way back when. This is one of the reasons, I will be playing, to be one of the players who gets it all done. Thanks for making this, hope people will heed the warning.

[@DingDongDelly]

preach, you're gonna play it. stop playin.

[@RamblingJosh]

I have a lot of fond memories of TBC, and they all fade away when I think about how much time I spent doing dailies, attunements, farming herbs, farming resist gear... The group content was great, but I could go a few lifetimes before I craft another steelskin flask.

[@vitsavicky]

To be honest, I kinda miss attunements to raids and content in general. It makes sense. You need that key for that door and you can only craft it from that metal and so on... Nothing so complicated like it was in TBC, but there should be something...

[@true7563]

I liked that there where some requirements for the suramar dungeons in legion even though it was a boring one

[@Elementroar]

I will admit, I didn't play TBC retail. But I did play on a non-boost server, which aimed to be as 'real' as retail as possible. The experience was so good and fun and fulfilling, that my non-retail guild did in fact buy WOTLK and we all moved to retail proper. My fondest memories of that time is still in back on the old private server tho. Learning to tank and everything all came from that experience (and with the smaller private server population, arguably was even more close-knit than original vanilla or TBC retail servers).

[@kuramacon]

I fully expect I will be in a slow moving social guild, getting things done at my rate, and just jumping into pugs for t4 content. I did my hardcore raiding (dkp, loot counsel, spending an hour with your class leader learning to improve, 3 nights a week, total try hard) stuff in wotlk and cata. I don't have the mind set for that anymore. Being one of the 10 man raid leaders for the first part of cata was so much fun. Now, that's a headach I can't deal with. Also, imma be one of the guys in shat yelling "giving free X-mute CD. Am x-mute spec. I keep any extras that proc"

[@zachhawkins5005]

I just can't wait to PvP. I started out trying to raid in original, and discovered the joy of pvp late in BC. Time to do it right this time.

[@thomaswilliams8270]

Preach, you look like a blonde Ozzy Osbourne in the thumbnail and I can't stop laughing!

[@parsa8941]

AAAAND I CAN'T EVER UNSEE THAT

[@justicerainz]

It's cursed

[@Flatunello]

At least he's not as incoherent

[@HorusHeresy1982]

I have a lot of fun memories from TBC and I've thought about playing again but i'm super casual now and back then I was like you. So I don't think I'd get much out of it. I saw all the raid content bar completing all of Sunwell of which I'm not that bothered. But like you I really enjoyed the attunements. It was so satisfying to finally unlock my key to Karazhan. I was so pleased to get my Champion of the Naaru and Hand of A'dal. I was one of the people who did the Nightbane chain to summon him. I don't think there's anything I really have left to do.

[@mibb748]

It's like we're going back in time to the hair you had when TBC came out originally. All jokes aside, hair is looking good preach!

[@davidfence6939]

Whenever BC Classic rolls over to Wrath Classic my time with WoW will probably end. No desire to play SL. The games are night and day different. You speak of all the happy memories of BC, Preach. I have many of them too and it's my favorite expansion. I'm missing a KJ kill. My BC guild stopped pre-patch on Brutallus. And I want to see how much better of a feral I can be as I was a clicking beast throughout most of BC. All depends on if my guild or part of my guild decides to keep going. We've hit a an attendance wall since January. We are working on Sapphiron with only about 1 total night of attempts spread over two nights of raiding. Got it to 40% and felt like it would be good. Checked Discord for raid today and only 35ish people signed up. We haven't been a hardcore guild in anyway. We haven't had massive overturn. Went back and looked at a Nefarian kill screenshot and all, but 10 of us from that kill were still active and raiding. We just can't get a consistent 40. We've even been bringing in alts of guildies' friends. Officers are calling it this week if we don't have enough. They do so much to keep us running. We lost a few top heals in February and it has made Loatheb and Sapphiron much harder fights. Officers are looking for a new start with BC. Probably take performance more into account than we have in Classic. So yeah, unfinished business in BC and then WoW is over for me. Been playing since Vanilla. That's enough of my life to one game.

[@chetanandrei950]

I get you, my unfinished businnes is on the pvp side, want that gladiator title! Gluck with a succesful ending to your wow journey. Im gonna cal it quits where i started all!

[@cekefun]

I might have kinda been that kind of player at the start of Shadowlands. I rolled a dps only class (came from a Monk) and my guild asked of us to do M+ for some extra gear. At first I tried to do it, but couldn't get an invite in pugs. I tried asking in discord/guild chat, but was always either too late or no one who could help me out (lack of tanks/healers). After a few weeks, I started to slack on gearing through m+ and realized a dps only class just isn't for me. I decided to reroll, but by then it was already too late and I couldn't catch up to the rest of the trial/raiding roster... Now I'm just chilling in game doing whatever I want whenever I want and enjoy the game a lot more then forcing myself in a class I didn't enjoy :)

[@tyrannosaurus696]

Nah you're not 'That kind of player". You tried being proactive and getting into pugs, and were asking to go on guild M+ runs. Not really sure what else you could have done. Preach is talking about people who can't be arsed to do stuff outside of raids, like get rep, achieves, attunements, or grind crafting. My SL experience is very similar to yours, and I also rolled a monk! I can hold my own in pugs but wouldn't get invited to meaningful keys because my .io was too low, and I'm not wasting an hour getting rejected from M+ groups. Went on a few guild runs but most of the time I was logging on too late to get into the only M+ group (have to give my daughter a bath and put her to bed), and once the solitary active tank decided to call it a night that was that. Decided to re-roll a mage but it's taken me about a month to get geared enough to not be a liability in dungeons. One option is to switch guilds, but I'm already on guild number 10 since BfA, there's no guarantee it will be any better, and then it's back to square one with making relationships. Anyway, kind of a moot point as heroic Denathrius (plus lack of loot and decent content) killed my guild, and most of the raid team quit after a big argument, with the rest logging in less and less because there just isn't anything to do after getting curve. Might as well just wait until 9.1 and try again.

[@Smokie1523]

I feel the same way about lich king, but im gonna have to go try it again, no matter how happy it made me back then and how happy it will make me this time around.

[@TheCheekybeans]

Never played TBC or even WoW before classic, I am PUMPED. Thanks for the epic video!

[@Oldwhpsian]

"I won't touch TBC"... Bro literally two days later and you already caved :D

[@Bollibompa]

Lol really?

[@Oldwhpsian]

@@Bollibompa Haha yeah he was playing TCB beta on stream last night ^^

[@brucekentallen]

Gotta milk that trending content

[@coreyjonesmusic2859]

Blizzard needs to bring TBC classic back !!!

[@fourjhin_cookies]

I was in 5th grade during TBC, mybest accomplishment was getting my haste proc bonus on the assassination set lol, and rocking a Latro's Dancing Blade. Can't wait to get back to the same point, and then beyond it :D

[@andrewshandle]

FYI, they have confirmed that attunements will be in like original TBC release in 2007 and Heroic Keys require Revered. There is a great add-on that is already in Classic that tracks your attunements for you and "fills in the bubbles" for you automatically which is very nice. It syncs across your guild as well if more people have it which is a nice feature.

[@Jaigarful]

Elemental Plateau is going to be a complete nightmare with how big servers are. So many world mats need grinding. Back in TBC, I was on a dead server, we could 10 man raid Karazhan which was fun, but we wanted to push forward, and trying to go from 10-man kara to 25 man gruul just didn't happen. I still have my Frozen Shadowweave Set on my priest in the bank... I never replaced it in TBC. You needed T5 4 piece set bonus before it could replace it.

[@TheAshleybruno]

Recruitment in mid TBC was a nightmare - at the Hyjal/early BT point of progress you're commiting to re-clearing Kael and Vashj for attunements for new recruits. Insane they never added something like attunement scrolls that dropped at boss kill so you can store them for reserves. Guilds should think about this ahead of time now to plan something different.

[@yolover111]

That's part of the process, being helpful to others even if the majority are done..... Not everyone is gonna have time or the actual decent group to complete these task. A scroll lol?

[@TheAshleybruno]

@@yolover111 As someone who did it for months, spending prog time on reclearing content you didn't want to in order to ensure your recruits could enter the raid you were actually progging was a bad system - punishing to new players as well as older ones. It's nice to say "helping others" - but in reality that's just excusing a stupid system for no reason and it's not how it panned out when it was live. It's cool if you don't agree but I lived it - it breeds resentment and ends up creating heavy plateaus for players to cross before they could even be considered for raiding. It keeps certain guilds middling forever due to player turnover and incentivizes higher guilds to carnibalize in that top end pool. Having something drop off the end bosses you could keep in guild to provide to new recruits to waive that boss attunement would have been smart.

[@ScorpionP2C]

Holy Memories Batman! I first got into raiding hardcore in tbc and I completely forgot about some of this stuff...the attunements (specifically people wanting to raid that didnt do them) people whining that they werent included on trinket farming because they didnt bother to even craft some gear and expected carries... ahhh the hilarity that my brain forgot about over the years. Much like Preach I did the heck out of tbc, I shall leave it as a fond memory. That said I hope those who never experienced it enjoy it, it is such an amazing expansion of content and good times!!!!

[@jeffreyarnold2626]

i miss when crafting actually meant something. farming mats was daunting but was rewarding. now it's just daunting, and a means to enter the item lvl climb.

[@declanfletcher6067]

regarding attunements - get the attune addon which tracks and tells you what part of the chain you are on.

[@yokrininsomnia6521]

I understand where you're coming from Preach. I started WoW in TBC, and im kinda bummed i took classic to Naxx with my main. I wont get much gear until raiding T4 it seems, and ill miss out of the gear progression from questing and dungeons. At least my alts can have fun with the gear progression

[@Scoobadoob]

I'm skipping this one for the same reasons as you. Had a blast, and got as far as killing Muru. But yeah, so much of your advice is important. Stepping up and putting in as much effort as others is so important. My guild ended up merging with another for the same reason as you said others have: we were two groups of people, half of which were trying, half of which were looking to get carried. What is really awesome about it is that we are still friends and still play the game with players from the other guild today.

[@RuneFToftlund]

Have great and fond memories from TBC and those cannot be repeated. The people made it more of an experience than the actual content.

[@altonbunnjr]

I agree with not playing BC Classic. I started my WOW adventure in original BC and I've already played it. That, and I have pleasant memories too of running the content and the dungeons with friends, some RL and others in game. Those days are long over and whenever I visit BC and WOTLK zones I get nostalgic and a little sad because I miss it. I will say this though: its the only expansion where I loved all the dungeons, each and every one was awesome.

[@darylcheshire1618]

I remember the rep grind and the attunement quests then Blizz dropped the attunement reuirements. The massive attunement table was eye rolling.

[@Forty2de]

how long do you think it will take before Blizzard buffs the guards in Thrallmar and Honor Hold?

[@ArmchairMagpie]

Oh yes, I remember the original BC when I was on Sunstrider realm on Alliance side, and we literally rushed the attunements to be the first guild on the realm to enter The Eye and kill the first boss. Big scary hulk of metal whose name I forgot. We really pulled through this and I remember doing Heroics for this pre-nerf as well, there were some really ouch-y ones with hard hitting stuff. I remember doing most of them as a Resto druid with four other drunk guildies in the party.

[@KolossusB]

I'm hoping attunements are there. Instant gratification where you can just walk into anything leads to people just quitting after a month or two when they're already "finished". And like you said, it's very fulfilling to complete it. And lets you engage with the new expansion world and it's dungeons.

[@djodjekg81]

I follow this man for years now, did you guys noticed that weird things happen when watching his videos and always those are nice and funny, ty Preach for all those years man, keep'em up. 👌

[@mattmccgowan]

I have seen advice to not quest in a zone but to do the normal dungeons till you get honored as the normals rep stops at honored so after you ger honored you can quest till you get rev to get into the heroics and the keys for the lvl 70 normal which will get you to exulted

[@trinkeslato9598]

There's also a neat addon called "Attune" that basically shows you all the paths you need to take ingame

[@omensoffate]

And this is the problem with this game now.

[@WtfThisSucks12]

@@omensoffate as opposed to having a checklist on the other monitor?

[@cornishpasty4344]

"have a prot paladin" omg YES.. so much YES. We had to fight tooth and nail to get our prot pally who was forced to heal to be prot in raids. We had these old school warriors who were terrible and they refused to step down from tanking. Eventually about 10 of us quit and joined a new guild lol!

[@darylcheshire1618]

I remember leaving my guild when I had to grind the voidwalkers in Nagrand for mats for BT shadow resist gear and it was like a second job and I was burned out. There were these NPCs in BT that sold recipes and you had to have certain rep to buy them.

[@brandonreames4121]

"Don't be that guy that has 5 alts and doesn't get stuff done outside of raids" -Stares at guild roster and specific people that pushed 8 alts...

[@MastersOfTheWinds]

If you take away anything from this and you have the opportunity to do so: LEVEL BY DUNGEON SPAMMING! You will get all the rep from the dungeons they provide (normal dungeons stop giving rep at honored). You will also get a metric shit ton of gold off of doing all the zone quests at 70. AND ALSO you will get all the rep of the quests on top of where you already are from dungeon spamming. It will make the first few weeks so, so much easier. And questing with a flying mount is also a lot better.

[@omologo95]

9:20 Yeah, I kinda... no, I really am that type of person. Asking for favors in general is an absurd challenge for me for mental health reasons, so I have a tendency to fall behind the pack unless someone picks up on it. Luckily, I've got some friends in my guild that knows about it, and are very inquisitive in my progress.

[@clambert608]

Love how you say that the memories of TBC are so good you dont want to change your feeling towards it. Feeling exactly the same, not gonna touch it as it just wont be the same.

[@Bollibompa]

Preach changed his mind, he's gonna play.

[@cas6382]

Preach: "I'm not going to be playing TBC Classic...because I've already no life'd THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF IT"

[@TheOdMan]

I agree with Preach when he says it's satisfying "filling in the bubbles" I loved doing attunements back in TBC, and I'm looking forward to doing them now, but I'm also lucky in that I know I'll have friends and old guildmates to play with, if I was completely solo going into TBC, I think I would be dreading it.

[@tdmc6428]

I’ve got a 5 man party of friends coming into BC. No pugging for dungeon content whoop whoop

[@k1r10n]

I remember we need up giving out cloth users tier 5 anyway since it has a lot more stamina than crafted. And you needed this in black temple.

[@sik3xploit]

Man, I did not just sit around "waiting for things to happen". I grinded hard to be the main tank for my guild.

[@badassoverlordzetta]

The Shattered Halls leave you with Shattered Balls. Have fun!

[@NekoDavid]

I loved TBC. It was the time in my life where I could play to my hearts content. I played with my friends. I loved it

[@26scootinkitten19]

Love the video u made.....really nice (game play) & great teacher of classic wow. And 'yes' TBC was / is the best of the expansions. I 'm prolly the only one who thinks Shadowlands is not good Player since 2005. Long Live Azeroth!!!

[@BicycleBob44]

I remember trying to clear Black Morass at least 10 times to get attuned for karazhan but I had a turd of a laptop. Whenever then fan would spin up it would freeze for for 10-15seconds, just enough time to die and wipe. Good times...

[@rockomax4284]

I mean there's a reason why Illidan says in the cinematic "You are not prepared" lol

[@violetbliss4399]

I'm kind of in the same boat. I think one thing that will affect much is how just as high-end raids and pvp can be inspirational, it also works itself down with the bad side of the coin like what will become the norm for pve and such. There won't be as much of a developing meta, which I think was the least satisfying thing with me for classic. We'll already know what to do.

[@keithb6344]

I won’t be playing TBC Classic. Back then my guild “job” was getting everyone attuned for Raids in a guild that kept loosing main players and bringing in new ones. I can’t run those dungeons again. 😊

[@Jaejgaren]

My memory is kinda vague but I think this is how china got the first illidan kill. china got their first kill on illidan by having every1 soulstoned AND having another raid logged out so when 1 dude died the logged off ppl could login and continue.

[@Harruin]

One of the ways to get rep to heroic dungeons quicker was to grind dungeons leveling until you hit honored, then do the quests. Once you hit honored only the bosses gave rep or something like that.

[@geddaj4563]

These tumbnails are getting better and better ❤️

[@brucekentallen]

If I may add, as someone that has been playing tbc exclusively for 7 years, guilds are gonna have a lack of tanks. One of each spec arent enough to supply the demand of runs specially later when ZA comes around with three day cooldowns so I suggest yall make like a pally or feral alt for farming and Offtanking karas and ZAs

[@Solo_Traveling]

Ah the good old days. Wtih attunments though, except the ones that include raids, you'd get them by normally playing the game: questing, doing dailies heroics, this sort of thing.

[@Aozora333]

I'm a rare case. Too young to do raids, too bad at heroics, but now I'm hoping to finally raid as a competent adult.

[@Kavou]

Pog, a video from Preach about TBC!

[@scorpiowarrior7841]

So the biggest problem is the same problem we have in shadowlands rn, good to know.

[@Chiefjoseph82]

I agree with you, reason I didn't play classic was the same I already did it loved it and no reason to go back. I think the reason people look back on those days wasn't the game play. It was the people. Back when you had to join a guild to raid it being 40 or even 25 you had to in a guild. Maybe your shy or can't make friends easy or whatever. You could only do so much solo back then. So you had to join a guild and after while those people back your family your died you killed bosses you literately fought for each other. Thats what wow has really lost the sense of Family.

[@jippy33]

Man, I feel sorry for those who had the attunement chart lined up and methodically rammed through it. My guild never knew of any chart. We did the content that was offered to us and organically progressed through it, getting attunements as a natural part of discovering the world. Classic TBC is another beast ofc, it will just be a framework for min-maxing.

[@mattjustofficial]

Hyjal wasn't opened until Cata when I used to play. Did they change it or something? We had Kara, Gruul, SSC, Mag, BT, and Kelthas...

[@Viltreta]

God I remember tanking my first heroic, it was so overtuned at the start haha. It didn't help that I went in much earlier then I was supposed to but the first few mobs just 1 shot me constantly. I am looking forward to going back now that I am better at the game and really experiencing everything BC has to offer.

[@Sexnuf4u]

Bc heroics crushed tanks at the start. HC still killed tanks even after getting normal loot. Fun to watch heroics crush. Now its just silly.

[@mortals94]

im mad hype for TBC

[@johnnytex1034]

Im with you Preach. Do not dare taint the memories of BC - the best expansion of WoW. (Or so says my memories)

[@cks796]

Preach, thank you for putting into words what I wasn't able to figure out on my own. Something with Classic and BC has been nagging at me. I play it but I'm just not interested in Classic. BC I was excited for but dreading it for some reason. Now I get why...I've got fond memories of both of them and don't want those memories being changed with what ever new memories I make. I'd prefer to remember it was it was than play what it is now. It makes sense...and yet...I still want to play it...

[@MrMikalGood]

Your Warlock dot timers are beautiful. Please elaborate on how you display those. Add on or WA?

[@mb-es1cn]

this is what im torn about i want to play it badly but i also dont want to taint my memories

[@lisaleone2296]

I slept, I worked, I played... yes TBC was the "golden age" for me too. I don't have the stamina any more! As far as lazy guildies, my guild had a checklist and a master spreadsheet for dungeons and raiding and people still acted like the guild was supposed to make them better rather than feeling like they had to put effort in. This is why I stopped raiding.

[@ArenaHealer]

That thumbnail! Hahaha so much win and hilarious dude.

[@Mathijsss247]

So tempted to play TBC classic as a holy pala again. Good times. But yes elemental plateau farm is going to be fun now everyone knows..

[@xxtovarichxx]

This is how I feel. I didn't really get to do anything in vanilla, besides hit like lvl 50. So I played Classic. However, I played a lot of TBC at 70. And I'm hesitant to dive in now. Not to mention the player base, is honestly a bit shit. People are going to be acting like asshole to get their BiS, and I honestly don't feel like dealing with it.

[@omensoffate]

Exactly it will never be the same. I would love to play but the player base is shit

[@1986mikeclark]

Resentment is real sometimes. Doing HC current retail raid. A few of us in good m+ gear, some in blues still and of course loot always drops for the 1s being carried

[@msf47]

Yep TBC is like life if you are waiting for things to happen most likely nothing is going to happen

[@shhfiftyfive]

also, there is an add-on called Attune, which tracks attunement progress.

[@darkwa456]

Exact same reason I won't be playing the burning crusade was the pinnicle of my gaming experience in wow and I don't want to ruin it and change my memorys of it

[@Judiacator]

I personally know a lot of introverts that, for them, the idea of speaking up or organizing groups pushes them towards anxiety and they just walk away. For those people, you (general you) have to be their leader and put them on a schedule etc or it wont happen. It sucks

[@ChinnuWoW]

They don’t need to speak tho, all they have to do is type lol

[@Judiacator]

@@ChinnuWoW true. But its still being the initiator. They are only comfortable being a follower

[@frostgodxeek]

not necessarily true because preach said in his case that he was constantly asking for people to tag along and asking if anyone needed help. all the introvert has to do is say "me" or something. Also those people will always be shy if everyone accommodates everything to them and the hardships that come with them being shy. but if u do know somebody specifically is really anxious socially then theres no reason not to go alittle out of ur way and drag them in

[@Babaganoosh69]

Looking forward to Classic TBC, I can appreciate your reasoning for not playing. Thanks for the tips!

[@Greco4915]

Wait till the Tempest Keep GDKPs for Ashes of Al'ar start

[@jonathansoko5368]

I decided to play tbc, not to relive memories but because I don't like any other mmo, I want to play wow. I tried getting back into shadowlands but I was miserable. Tbc Is my best option. Pve tho I learned my lesson with classic pvp servers