TC Electronic PLETHORA X5 - 10 Tips & Tricks | Quick Guide, Deep Dive

10 Tips & Tricks to get you started with your new Plethora X5 (firmware 1.1).
The Plethora X5 is an effects powerhouse - packing the whole plethora (pun definitely intended) of TC Electronic TonePrint effects, and adding in a chromatic tuner and 5 loopers, it's all the effects you'll ever need in one box.
Most of these tips are also applicable to the X3!
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:10 Enter tuner mode
0:36 Change boards without using the toggle switch
1:00 Change FX order on the fly
1:10 Create your own boards
1:30 Duplicate boards
1:47 Activate tap tempo
3:10 Choose between miliseconds and BPM display
3:38 Change external FX loop routing
4:40 Use the expression pedal as volume
5:23 Control multiple FX parameters with one expression pedal
7:27 Housekeeping (the stuff nobody watches anyway!)
Thank you for watching, and as always if you have any questions, drop them in the comments box below.
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[@PedalPlatform]

Get your Plethora X5 (affiliate links) Thomann: redir.love/l47us9oJ Amazon: amzn.to/3BezytV

[@fullcirclesound6498]

Just purchased an X5. Was lost until I came across all your videos. Lifesaving ! Thank you for such detailed explanations of all the functions. Your presentation of this is amazing…..subscribed !!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you, really glad it helped! 🙏🏻

[@steverussell7645]

Absolultely. Whilst the Plethora sounds great out of the box, and is pretty intuitive, I would not get anywhere near all you can get from it without these videos.

[@jonathanvipond8299]

Just got me a Plethora yesterday and this video has probably saved me hours of messing around. Thanks for making this. Subscribed!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you Jonathan, really glad to help!

[@TomButwin]

Hands down the best and most informative video out there for the X5! Nicely done and thank you.

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@fiveby3]

Singularly the most useful video for understanding this great pedal! Thank you!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you Jon, glad it was helpful! 🙏🏻

[@TheRollingBacon]

Clear, comprehensive and concise. You the man. Subscribed!

[@PedalPlatform]

Awesome, thank you!

[@finmuso423]

This information is beyond helpful and has saved me (and, I expect, many others) a great deal of time and bafflement. Thank you.

[@PedalPlatform]

You're very welcome!

[@vittonik72]

Thank you for this video, I received my x5 earlier this week, did the firmware install, and became lost and didn’t find answers in the quick start guide or a manual offered online, I found all the information I needed here and sincerely hope TC Electronics acknowledges how valuable this video is

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you, I'm really glad it helped. Please drop me a note if there's anything else you'd like to see here.

[@thedopefiend]

new plethora user here wanting to say just the same. Many thanks to OP

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you!

[@steverussell7645]

Me too @@thedopefiend

[@paulbjansen2176]

Mine will be delivered today - thanks for this video, I’m sure I’ll be looking at it quite often in the coming days, to get my X5 dialed in!!

[@PedalPlatform]

Excellent, hope you have fun with it!

[@DaveMarket]

I got the X5 almost three years ago and I still like it. This channel has the best info and I still occasionally come here for refreshers.

[@josegallegosdds]

Excellent video.....my Plethora is coming on Friday. Can’t wait to dive in.

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you, hope you have fun with it! 😀

[@lehardeu]

thank you , that will help me a lot when i get mine

[@OlivierRouquierOfficiel]

very useful video ! I enjoyed with my Plethora, and much more now ! Very impatient to get the firmare update to have the Tuner and I guess couple others great new things ! Thank you for this video again !

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Olivier, thank you so much for your kind comments!

[@tobyklatter]

Really useful looking forward to diving into mine!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thanks Toby!

[@rodanrock]

Thanks from Chile!! i received my Plethora X5 this weekend and going to install a firmware. This is a really awesome unit!! TC its the best ;)

[@PedalPlatform]

Great stuff, hope you enjoy it!

[@vonSpets]

Thanks for the EQ tip!! Really useful stuff!

[@PedalPlatform]

Happy to help!

[@JamminJim42]

Simple, clear and to the point ! AWESOME video. This pedal (to me) is one of the most innovative on the market. You just made its massive host of features a LOT more accessable to us. I THANK you for that.

[@PedalPlatform]

Awesome, glad it was helpful! 😁

[@theoversouls]

THANK YOU. This was a godsend for learning all these hidden functions that TC apparently wants to keep secret for some unknown reason.

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad it was useful for you! 🙂

[@runeb4440]

Great Beforehand info ! 👍Getteing my Plethora in a few days, so GREAT 2 know just "Where-2-start" Thanks 💚😎

[@PedalPlatform]

Excellent, hope you have fun with it!

[@FC-jp7ez]

Many thanks for this helpful video!

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Smart-Alex]

Again, another great video! Thank you for this!!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you, my pleasure! 🙏🏻

[@Smart-Alex]

You’re welcome but, FYI, this doesn’t work on the X3

[@PedalPlatform]

This is a very old video, back when there was no X3 and we were still on firmware 1.1. :D Either way, all tips except FX Loop and Exp Pedal, which the X3 doesn't have, still apply - but some have to be activated via menu options (Settings > Global > Product Settings > ...), because their defaults have changed due to the introduction of other options that would clash with the footswitch functions. I've also covered the X3 extensively here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKS5pGOgpcSJacU, and the MIDI functionality here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKPWgIyhd8yZjsk, so those might be more interesting for new X3 owners. :)

[@skapegoat99]

Great video!

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BHiemisch]

Very good and helpful explanation. Thanks from Germany 🙏🤗

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad it was helpful!

[@protocosm]

The best Plethora videos on the web!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you Jan! 🙏🏻

[@jimmannella2291]

Really well done video. Thank you 👍

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you too!

[@peterbennett4783]

Excellent presentation, thank you for your time and effort. Kind regards from Peter Bennett, Victoria , Australia.

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you Peter! (I wasn't late replying this, it's just the time the message takes to get from Portugal to Australia... honest! 🤐😄)

[@mentalembargo]

Thanks for the quick and clear info, mine will arrive tomorrow :-)

[@PedalPlatform]

You're very welcome, hope you enjoy it!

[@zulhafizzariq3391]

Where you bought it? Amazon?

[@mentalembargo]

@@zulhafizzariq3391 No, bought it from Thomann.de, I've had it pre-ordered all the way back from February ...

[@darryldoesit966]

awesome, thanks !!!

[@tlingen1]

excellent video, thank you!

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad it was helpful!

[@NONAME-GIVEN]

Very good primer for setting up this pedal. TKX

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you, glad you liked it! :)

[@user-co6fw6ql7h]

After banging my head on the wall for 24 hours trying to edit the Plethora X5, I figured out NOT to use the software but just program straight into the board and I was on my way. I am using a POD Go for dirt, amp, IR and I put the X5 in the POD Go effects loop. The effects are A LOT better than POD Go. Tap tempo to control Delay , press and hold the Tap Tuner switch and there is a great tuner, effects level knobs assigned. Yeah this will work.

[@dark-oxygen]

Awesome! Brevity is the soul of wit! )

[@noiselabproject9659]

Just got one and this is great Cheers ................. especially as they seem to have seen fit not to provide a proper manual in paper or for download !

[@PedalPlatform]

You're welcome! 🙏🏻

[@mickmoorhouse9834]

Excellent !

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@KevinBorich]

Simple and informative, thank you I've just got mine and need this kinda help as there's no manual that talks through the vital manoeuvres - so a "just outta the box" tutorial would be great to get me going...please?

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad you found it useful! What steps would you like to see covered in that type of tutorial? I'm working on another couple at the moment, so might be able to tweak to include some of those. 😄

[@florianju5638]

The title is misleading, these are not really "tips and tricks", but valuable instructions on how stuff with this device works. Can't wait for mine to arrive.

[@PedalPlatform]

I agree wholeheartedly, but most people won't be searching for "valuable instructions" - I wish they did, it would make for a much nicer title 😁 Hope you enjoy your Plethora, let us know how you get on with it 😉

[@florianju5638]

@@PedalPlatform "Tutorial" might be a word that would work and be looked for ;)

[@PedalPlatform]

True! I'll try that in the future and see where it lands in terms of reach :) But I still prefer "valuable instructions" 😆

[@nicolaspachano304]

Great video! The manual that comes with the pedal is absolutely useless. This video is great!

[@eoinjennings519]

Very handy !

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad it was useful! 🙏🏻

[@schoolofrockcresskill5811]

Great video! I just bought one! In Board 1 which is what I am using at the moment. Is the compressor in the loop or before with the 4 cable method? Is there a way to choose in setup? Thank you

[@johnswinglehurst]

Well, I’m sold.

[@marceli155]

VERY COMPLICATED

[@PedalPlatform]

Looks more complicated than it is once you get the moves under your fingers. 😉

[@meetblackbird]

Extremely helpful. It's great gear, but a bit of a beast to get it under control. Your videos are the best I've found by far. Thanks! I do have a question. Does the FX Loop of the Plethora have a AD/DA conversion, or is it a true analog loop? I'd prefer not to do any conversions before my preamps in using the four cable method.... Thanks!

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you! 🙏🏻

[@PedalPlatform]

Sorry, I seem to have missed your question… the loop does have AD/DA conversions to get in and out of it. Sorry I missed it the first time!

[@charlescoggrave4837]

Great video. I have an X5 arriving tomorrow. I’m using a UA LION and an FRFR power cab and pondering whether to put guitar throdrive, then LION then input of x5 with perhaps my El Capistan and Clouburst in insert or fx loop or guitar into X5 then all pedals in insert loop ( including LION) then straight out of X5 to Laney power cab. Welcome any thoughts and looking forward to experimenting! 🎉

[@PedalPlatform]

I might have just the video for you ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGHYnIqfls1omLcsi=kfuC66q35vbilm_c

[@maun7414]

This video is the best information and explanation of the Plethora X5 thanks guys!!!!! could you make a tutorial about the Boss RC600 looper please?

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you! 🙏🏻 And I'd love to make an RC600 tutorial, but I've already maxxed out my gear expenses for this year 😬, so if Boss wants to lend me one... 😉

[@remwaheul671]

Top !

[@MrKennyurchuk]

Brilliant video my friend. But is there a way that the Plethora can change channels on my Boogie amp as per my G-system? That is my only concern.

[@thefiddledoctor]

Thanks for this video. It’s helped me a lot with the Plethora x5. I wish you could do a tutorial on the Grace Design Felix 2 preamp.

[@PedalPlatform]

Oooh, that looks awesome, but unfortunately it's way out of my price range for now... 😕

[@thefiddledoctor]

@@PedalPlatform I’m loving the Felix 2. I had the LR Baggs Venue DI for years but it became too noisy. Decide to upgrade. I’ll probably spent years trying to figure out all of its Capabilities. It sounds way better. I’ve been using it with the Plethora x5 and my stereo AC 90 Roland amp and I’m loving it. Very accurate representation of my acoustic instruments.

[@MarcStoneMusic]

Excellent. Bought one at 6pm yesterday, watched your vid and set up a board, and hit the stage with it at 8pm. A few tweaks during set break and this thing is good to go. Do you know if the current firmware allows EQ and other deeper editing functions on the board itself or do you still have to do that in the app? Thx!

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Marc, glad to hear that! I guess there aren't that many effects units that afford you the confidence to go from opening the box to the stage in 2 hours... 😁 No EQ on the current firmware, sorry. You can tweak an Hypergravity instance to give you a crude 3 band EQ in case of need (here's a video with the basic idea: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bH65layInqete5o), but there isn't a dedicated EQ. As for deep editing, that's still app based.

[@tor7492]

GREAT THANKS,

[@PedalPlatform]

You are welcome!

[@agia-57]

I can confirm that an Ernie Ball low-impedance volume pedal (25k-Ohm) works just fine as an expression pedal for the X5. Single TS cable from the volume pedal output to the X5's expression input. Go through the calibration procedure on the X5.

[@wasichu66]

Great vid, clear and straight to the point. Very eager to find out the following: I'm building a pedalboard around a MKIV MIDI loop controller, and would be looking to replace several MIDI pedals by only one MIDI unit (modulations, reverb, delays) as I fear programming patches and multiple MIDI channels will be more than this dinosaur can handle, SO, my question is, if the Plethora is integrated on a pedalboard, can I switch boards via MIDI with no latency as if boards were patches on a multifx unit? Thanks in advance.

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Christian, you can indeed switch boards via MIDI, but there is a roughly 2 second delay where you signal gets muted while all the parameters for the various effects are loaded. If you can work your sounds and board switching around those brief interruptions, it'll be a very effective system.

[@wasichu66]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks for the quick reply. I was seeing this as a favorable alternative to a Helix HX FX or a Fractal FX8 because of its simplicity and pedalboard real estate, but I guess if they don't fix this then it kills the Plethora for me... :/ Keep up the good stuff.

[@daveflynn4760]

I’d like to ask a question about editing MASH function on the iPad app. I’m not sure if it’s possible to set up the MASH button the way I want to but I haven’t been able to find any up-to-date info anywhere so far. What I’m trying to do is have the MASH alter a setting for an effect, say tremolo speed for example. With my foot off the pedal speed is whatever the default setting for the current effect is, and as I push the MASH switch it gets faster. What seems to happen is that when i first push gently on the switch it ‘resets’ the speed to zero, and the speed increases from there with more pressure. This doesn’t sound good to my ears, and I don’t know how to change it! In the MASH section of the app the first section of the curve reads ‘Default’ and isn’t connected to the second section. This is the reason for the sound behaving this way, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to change that so the speed change in the tremolo (or similar parameters in the delay and reverb toneprints) can respond completely smoothly. Thanks for your great videos - they’ve been very informative and helpful :-)

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Dave, thank you for your kind comments :) You're absolutely correct, it's the jump between the two sections of the curve that causes the 'reset' feeling, and at this point there isn't a way of connecting both sides to create a perfectly seamless transition - my way of getting around this is by just getting the 2nd part of the curve to start somewhere close to where I'll be using that particular parameter more often, i.e. the knob position / 'default' part of the curve. That way there might still be a jump, but it's probably going to be smaller than it would be otherwise. Hope this helps for now :)

[@MartinStromer85]

Hi, great video! Do you think that TC Electronic team will make switching among boards quicker (or at least will allow to have two or more effects already "on" when you go on a specific board) with future upgrades? The "Pedal Dance" is not so comfortable... And a digital version of the TC Spark Booster could be implemented in the Plethora?

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you! All good questions - switching the boards takes a bit of time because of having to reload all the related effects parameters, so I'm not sure how much quicker they'll be able to make it. It's slightly quicker over MIDI Program Change though, since the software doesn't have to wait to check what board you want to switch to. As for the effects on / off status, the Plethora remembers them from the last time you used a specific board, so if you need a specific combination when loading a specific board, make sure you leave them on whevener you come out of that board and that's how they'll come up the next time you load it. With regards to the Booster, there are more users asking for some kind to be implemented - I don't know if that's going be a digital interpretation of the Spark, a pure volume boost, or if it'll even ever be implemented, but the TC people are still hard at work on new features, so we'll see where they end up :)

[@MartinStromer85]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks for your kind reply!

[@simoneavigo9766]

Thank you for video. I've a question, can I use the midi connection to change the channels of the preamp? how can i program this function? Thank you

[@PedalPlatform]

Hey Simone, that'll be a no. The Plethora only has MIDI In and Thru ports, so it cannot act as a controller.

[@timkryworuka1196]

Ytm , thanx dudey!

[@PedalPlatform]

🙏🏻

[@pabloadolfolopezalegria7390]

Hello there, great channel, should be great have a different board on each footswich it is possible?

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Pablo - that's not possible with the Plethora because it's not the concept TC was aiming for when creating it. Their concept was more related to immediate control of the individual FX and their respective MASH switches, with the added possibility of storing several boards that you can change between with the triple tap + up / down. That said, the MIDI implementation allows you to change boards via PC commands, so there is the possibility of using an external MIDI switcher for direct access to boards if you want the ultimate flexibility, albeit one that one take a lot of floor space 😁

[@HubLocationSound]

Can the Plethora x3/x5 be configured like a loop switcher? Meaning: could I program a combination of effects to all come on when I hit footswitch #1, and then another combination of effects are assigned to footswitch #2 and so on?

[@morellotg]

Nice video. Wondering if there's a way to deal with flashback subdivisions. Maybe it can be set up only via toneprint editor?

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Tommaso, check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pYXZmJd-fKZnjJI. If that doesn't clear it up, just let me know!

[@morellotg]

@@PedalPlatform thank you

[@tszleung]

Nice man‼️ But I still waiting my Plethora X5😢

[@peterlindsay3800]

I brought a use one one small problem when I press the pedal three times to change banks up or down it doesn't work same for the tuner got to do it manually.

[@Ultra7165]

Can you do a full video with using other pedals in the effects loop with the effects loop of an amp. Demo it. I can't seem to get it to work right. Another question. If you can select the effects loop to between lets say 4 and 5. Why is there an option to insert an effects loop on a footswitch? I am so confused lol

[@PedalPlatform]

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll see what I can do :) As for the option to insert the loop on a footswitch, it's designed in case you want to use the Plethora as a loop switcher, i.e. have a pedal / chain in the Plethora's loop, that you can tap on / off from the Plethora itself. You obviously give up an effects slot for that, but gain some flexibility should you need it.

[@derekthrasher1116]

01:20 Whitesnake? Sweet! I wanna hear that Pedalboard Set!! 🤘

[@PedalPlatform]

It's factory board #1, so it should be easy to find. ;) Just had a drive in the effects loop, and rock on ;)

[@kleber9999]

i need one that!,, amazing....

[@soundkitchenamplifiers3419]

Thanks for your videos and sorry if this is a dumb question but I bought a Plethora X5, I have it connected into my amp's FX loop and I control it with my Boss ES-5 switcher. My question is: how can I avoid delays and reverbs being cut out when changing board? Thanks

[@PedalPlatform]

Sorry to say that you can't, the Plethora has to reinitialise the effects engines when you switch boards, and that includes the audio buffers, so it isn't possible to keep the tails in that situation. If you need the sound continuity, it's better to switch between effects within the same board, or, if possible, generate some toneprints that can "morph" between different settings within the same effect. 🙏🏻

[@soundkitchenamplifiers3419]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks a lot for such a fast reply! ;)

[@terrillmel]

Will the pedal remember my delay time setting if I switch presets and then back? I'm hoping that fiddling with the knobs won't change it permanently just well performing

[@ALTDOK667]

Is nice!

[@Ebutouy5180]

Very useful - thx for sharing. Do you know? Is it possible to save a setting from an existing pedal (such as "sub n up" or others) and store it in the plethora?

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you :) No, toneprint sharing between equivalent pedals isn't implemented, but if it's a toneprint you created yourself and you still have access to it, you can recreate it on the Plethora with the toneprint editor. If it's an artist toneprint, it's already there and ready to be loaded. ;)

[@Ebutouy5180]

@@PedalPlatform So I can store my personal setting of my sub'n'up on my laptop and restore it to the plethora. Is it right?

[@PedalPlatform]

Sorry, I didn't explain it correctly - you'll have to create a new toneprint for the Plethora from scratch, but you can use the same parameters you used for the Sub'n'up - with the added bonus of using the expression pedal and MASH switch if you want :)

[@Ebutouy5180]

@@PedalPlatform My Plethora will arrive today ... I'll check it out. Thanks for explaining. Stay save!

[@marcosounds6890]

Great video! Does anyone have an idea on how to create a toneprint that emulates the pedal Crescendo Auto Swell or the effect of "auto volume swells" in the Plethora?

[@PedalPlatform]

It's very difficult to get the parameters right, and it's very dependent on guitar and picking, but here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/en_QqXtjrsudoLs

[@marcosounds6890]

@@PedalPlatform thanks, I will give a try!

[@001mladen]

For tuner mode on switch 5, its possible only if on switch 5 is assigned as one of the effects. If you have looper on switch 5 /last) tuner will not engage, it will only engange looper (record).

[@oscarpalaciosbustamante4029]

Hi man, thanks a lot for the videos! What expression or volume pedal do you recommend and how does the plugging look like ? Thanks!

[@PedalPlatform]

Cheers! I've had good results with both the Boss FV-5L and the M-Audio EX-P, both at the opposite ends of the price and sturdiness spectrum. 😁 That said, the EX-Ps seem to handle a bit of abuse better than I'd give them credit for. I also have a Hotone Ampero Press and a Soul Press II that I need to test, but haven't yet so I'll reserve judgement until then. As for plugs, the M-Audio has a built-in cable with a stereo plug; the other ones need a TRS / stereo cable to work with the Plethora. Hope this helps!

[@oscarpalaciosbustamante4029]

@@PedalPlatform thanks a lot, man! Cheers!

[@JRP3music]

Can you use dual tape delays, so they will pan with different delay times and repeats?

[@paulbjansen2176]

Quick question - is there any way to put ONLY delay into the effects loop of my Boogie, or does the entire PX5 either front of amp or effects loop?

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Paul, you can use the '4 cable method': Guitar > Plethora input Plethora loop out > Boogie input Boogie loop out > Plethora loop in Plethora out > Boogie loop in Then on the Plethora you can select the external loop location to be between slots 4 / 5, which will put the first 4 slots before the Boogie, and leave slot #5 for the delay in the Boogie's loop. Hope this helps!

[@falschnehmung]

5 thumps up - much appreciated - tnx a LOT ! QUESTION: how did you get the firmware Update in the first place ... ;-) ? Can't find any on TC's web ...

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you :) I'm on the TC Electronic beta testing team, so I got early access to it. Hopefully it'll be out soon!

[@Kattemageren]

@@PedalPlatform Fwupdate 1.1 was released the 14 of april 2020 :) www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Effects-Processors/PLETHORA-X5/p/P0D9M/Downloads#googtrans(en%7Cen)

[@RobbyBaier]

Hi! great videos! I just updated my PlethoraX5 to 1.3.11 but the tripple tap tuner function is not working on button 5. Any clues why this might not be working? Thanks man!!

[@PedalPlatform]

Have you checked Settings > Global > Product Settings > FSW Activate Tuner?

[@RobbyBaier]

@@PedalPlatform Awesome! Thanks for taking the time!

[@PedalPlatform]

Firmware 1.1 now released: www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Effects-Processors/PLETHORA-X5/p/P0D9M/Downloads#googtrans(en|en) TUNER TRIPLE TAP - If your triple tap FSW5 isn't activating the Tuner, go to Edit > Settings > Global > Product Settings and check that FSW Activate Tuner option is active. This option only appeared after the firmware version I was using in the video. (Thanks Marcus for the pin tip!)

[@paatacharashvili5587]

Hello, can I use Plethora as a footswitch to mix my single pedals and racks?

[@iamjonguy]

Hi, did you already updated firmware to 1.3.11? When I did on my plethora x5, I suddenly lost all the shortcuts like board changes using toggle and tuner and all other stuff, can you help on how fix it? Thanks

[@PedalPlatform]

Firmware 1.1 now released: www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Effects-Processors/PLETHORA-X5/p/P0D9M/Downloads#googtrans(en|en) (Thanks Marcus for the pin tip!)

[@8Junio76]

Is it possible to use the switches as non-latching switches? Great video btw. Cheers.

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you, @crguti. Unfortunately that's a no for now, all switches are latching, but if enough users ask for it TC might consider creating that option if possible.

[@hairnation68]

I have an hxeffects. Wondering if I’d prefer one of these with my pedals.

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Fred, it's a great question that I have seen asked a few times now... I don't own any HX series gear though, so can't be of much use other than to say that if you tend to like TC effects, this is an awesome box to have. :)

[@nizzamp]

Thanks for this. What is the most ideal place to put an overdrive pedal when using 4 cable method? Seems I can place it as GTR -> OD - Plethora input. Or I can place it at the MFX SEND - OD - AMP INPUT.

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Nathaniel, both of your options will work, but if you want a bit more of an in depth look at it, check this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hGHYnIqfls1omLc

[@nizzamp]

@@PedalPlatform Aces. Thanks for taking the time to do these videos on the X5. I have had mine for 3 days now and with no manual, one has to learn from guys like you. GREATLY APPRECIATED, I know making YT videos is very time intensive.

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you for the kind comment, and I hope you’re enjoying the Plethora 😁🙏🏻

[@KempoSensei]

I had to enable triple tap for tuner in the menu options in order for that to work for me.

[@PedalPlatform]

Yep - when I filmed this video, the triple tap was enabled by default and didn't have a user accessible option. I'll have to keep updating the video as new firmwares roll out :)

[@SlowDazzle]

@@PedalPlatform I was hunting online to find out how to do this!

[@PedalPlatform]

@@SlowDazzle Glad you found it here 😁

[@navinadv]

Granted the Plethora is a nice concept and I like TC sounds ever since I got my Nova System. I just wish they had simpler ways to bank up and down because hitting a foot switch 3 times with shoes on is not easy in a live setting especially when the same foot switch is “mash” enabled. I wish there were simpler ways to get into a Tap Tempo, Bank up and Down, and having both Volume and expression pedals at the same time. A sloping front like the Boss ES8 would also help.

[@Kattemageren]

There's a dedicated toggleswitch to switch between boards. Furthermore you can change boards via midi

[@navinadv]

Marcus Therkildsen yes I know there is a toggle switch but as a guitar player in a live setting reaching down to the toggle switch between songs would be a challenge. I also know there is tripple tap way to get to bank up and down but I don’t know how easy that is given that the same foot switch is mash enabled. I have not got the chance to try the Plethora but other pedals that have double tap for one function or triple tap for another function have been difficult to use in the real world. That said I have always found TC products to be very easy to use in real world live settings. I love the tone print option that allows me to program the pedal to my liking (I need to do this only one else). From the time TC made the Nova System (what a lovely compressor and analog drive it has) I have been a TC fan.

[@PedalPlatform]

Looking at the Plethora as a customizable 5 pedal unit rather an out-an-out MultiFX unit explains some of the design decisions that went into why it is the way it is. Having dedicated tap tempo, bank switches, 2 expression pedal inputs, etc would have made for a physically larger unit, and the trade-offs could be bigger than simply the extra size and cost. Also, as Marcus points out, you can use an external MIDI switcher to handle board switching - and because MIDI clock is also high on the developers feature list, MIDI tap tempo should also become possible in the future.

[@navinadv]

Pedal Platform yeah I have a Musicom midi capable looper/switcher but if I use that in the front my board and the Plethora ends up in the second or third row of pedals then I won’t be able to use the mash function of the foot switch. The plethora can be a replacement for all your modulation, delay and reverb pedals and would use only one loop in the looper/ switcher. I prefer most TC effects to Boss or Line 6. There are a few exceptions but generally if I have to choose one it would be TC. I wouldn’t mind a larger format if they incorporated tap tempo, bank up/down, a volume pedal loop, etc. Maybe there will be a X7 or X8 that does this in the future. I just made a quick and dirty concept X7 board but I can't post the picture here because KZbin won't allow me. I can email it if you want.

[@Radical_Libre]

very useful tutorial ! One question about FX loop routing : is it global or editable board by board ? I hope it is 2nd option ;) Thanks alot for clarification.

[@PedalPlatform]

Per board 😉 Any settings on the "Board" menu are stored per board, so you're free to mix and match as you need. 😉

[@steverussell7645]

I see you've just recently bought your Plethora. I've been looking at it for a while now. Just wondered if you'd mind saying how you're getting on with it? TIA

[@voodoosioux1300]

Is there a delay when you turn the effects on and off like on some multi effect, or is it seamless, like individual pedals

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi! It's seamless within each board, just like clicking individual pedals on or off. There is only a bit of lag when changing between boards.

[@ryanspencerlauderdale687]

Can you use the EXP input as a external tap tempo input for your delays and tremolo?

[@PedalPlatform]

Not at this point, but TC are always listening for user requests and this has come up a few times already... if it gets enough traction, it might get implemented!

[@Tonhomones]

How do I set the mash button? I'm selecting it, but it doesn't seem to work

[@RegalitoDeDios2]

Very useful, thanx! The triple tap of footswitch no. 5 to enable the tuner doesn't work with my Plethora and I just updated it to the latest firmware 1.1. Any hints?

[@PedalPlatform]

You're welcome! If you go to Edit > Settings > Global > Product Settings, do you have a FSW Activate Tuner option? If so, check that Triple Tap FSW 5 is active :)

[@RegalitoDeDios2]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks, it works! 👍 But now another problem: the Tap Tremolo in the "vintage" setting doesn't have any noticeable effect. 🤨

[@PedalPlatform]

Mine seems to be working - are you able to get into tap tempo mode by pressing and holding the switch? Also try raising the depth parameter to 50% or more, the effect isn't always obvious below that.

[@RegalitoDeDios2]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks and yes, I adjusted all parameters from low to high, but the vintage setting doesn't work (the others do). Hmm. And I miss a few nice effects like Vibe, Rotary or the Alter Ego Vintage Delay, which I had as the standalone pedal and was very good. I think about a change with the Boss MD-500...

[@PedalPlatform]

The Viscous Vibe has been confirmed for the 1.2 firmware update later this year, together with the Helix Phaser and a looper :) Other effects are being considered, as well as other user requests, and TC are actively listening to user input, so there's hope. ;) If you haven't yet, pop over to this thread on the MusicTribe forums (bit.ly/2WphAC8) and let them know what you'd like to see. :)

[@pierremilleret698]

Hi ! Does the Plethora have a "silent mode" for the Tuner (and which be enabled/disabled in the settings) ? - Thanks.

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Pierre, at this point the tuner mutes the signal path, so it only allows for silent tuning. There have been user requests for an enable / disable setting, but it hasn't been confirmed by TC yet.

[@pierremilleret698]

@@PedalPlatform Ok that's exactly what I want as a priority :) - Thanks

[@tylerpoe8628]

Does engaging the tuner via triple tap kill output to the amp similarly to a single tap of their polytune tuner?

[@PedalPlatform]

Yup, it does kill the output.

[@navinadv]

I got a crazy idea, what if you stack 2 Plethora X5 using the send / return loop of the first one to insert a second one. This way you can technically have 9 TC pedals available at any time. Using a MIDI looper/switcher you can control both boards.

[@PedalPlatform]

I think in that case I'd rather stack them linearly (first out to second in) in full stereo, and use the loops for other stuff 😆

[@aknevrnky]

Is there any whammy effect which I can control with exp pedal :D

[@hiram6760]

perfect explanation , sometimes we need to know the functionality or the possibilities we can do with gears rather than somebody playing some silly licks , we don't want that also tell me how many people end up selling their gears because they were not able to navigate in the menu and get most sounds out of it a lot , no to mention stupid menus which talk bout "right voltage " , I was surprise when strymon big sky includes some of the settings you can use to get perfect sound wow amazing anyway thank you Kindly for the video and more power to you ,

[@PedalPlatform]

Thank you for your kind comments, I'm really glad you found this helpful :)

[@boggeshzahim3713]

Exactly, like we mostly all know what these effects sound like, we are interested in what makes this pedal different than owning all of these pedals separately.

[@PedalPlatform]

🙏🏻

[@MYGAS21]

2 questions: 1) Are there any routing options, e.g. parallel routing? 2) Can the expression be possitive for one effect and negative for another? Lets say I have the expression possitive on a pitch shifter and a tremolo's rate, but as I raise the pitch and tremolo rate, I want it to fade out with a negative volume: getting the volume lowered as the others are raised. Thanks!

[@PedalPlatform]

1) nope, but it's also a user request, so who knows what's coming down the TC pipeline 🤷🏻‍♂️ 2) yes, you just need to edit the corresponding curves on the TonePrints, then on the Plethora assign the Exp Pedal to "Expression Modifier" under each effect that you want it to affect. I explain the curve thingy in this video, if you haven't seen it before: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3K2YXV3mrKqirM. Hope this helps!

[@MYGAS21]

@@PedalPlatform Thank you so much!

[@uluiepra]

hi )) say pleease how many seconds on one record loop?

[@jeffburmester1390]

Can I use a mission pedal made for the g system to control the x5?

[@PedalPlatform]

I'm not sure about that, actually... 🤔 the specs for the Mission pedal talk about a 250k pot for both volume and expression, whereas the Plethora seems to be at home with the more common 10k pots from pedals such as the Boss FV-5L.

[@RyanMcQuen]

How do you change FX order on the Plethora X3 if the two foot-switches are set to change the board?

[@PedalPlatform]

You either do it manually (load the effect / toneprints on the corresponding slots), or turn off the board changing temporarily while you set stuff up, then turn it on again when playing. There's no perfect solution here, so it's a matter of deciding which one is less of a bother in any particular situation.

[@RyanMcQuen]

@@PedalPlatform I switched to the triple taps on 1/2 for board switching. That's a decent compromise for my workflow.

[@peterlindsay3800]

Is there anyway I can reset it to do this by tapping the button three times so that I may move up and down through banks

[@PedalPlatform]

Flick to Edit mode, go to Settings \ Global \ Product Settings \ FSW Board and change it to Triple Tap FSW 1/2. Under FSW Board you'll also find FSW Activate Tuner, click in to it and change to Triple Tap FSW 5. 👍🏻

[@gitaristarakista1967]

Hi... I can't activate the tuner mode.. Both pressing and holding the tone print and the triple tap of the foot switch 5.... Is there any problem if that is the case..?? I just got a new one this week.. 😢 ( think it's not working)

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi, are you running firmware 1.1? (Check the version in Settings \ Global \ About \ Firmware). If you're still in 1.0.something, you need to update using the link on the right hand side in this page: www.tcelectronic.com/product.html?modelCode=P0D9M. If you're already running 1.1, check if you're in Play mode, as the tuner won't turn on in Edit mode. Also check that triple tap is activated in Settings \ Product Settings \ FSW Activate Tuner \ Triple Tap FSW 5. Hope this helps, let me know if it still isn't working after this!

[@gitaristarakista1967]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks a lot... 😁😁👍

[@robertburkarthiii168]

Hi, Phillipe (spelling?) - You're way over the top on understanding this Plethora gizmo - bravo! How do I delete a board? I tried to put one together and then decided I didn't want to keep it. So I made five empty slots and now the board says something like "Empty Board - please add stuff" (essentially). I went on the app on my phone and that only lets me reorder or rename - no delete. How to do this? Do I need the editor on my laptop to do it? Thanks for your help! Bob

[@PedalPlatform]

Hi Bob, thank you for the kind comments! 🙏🏻 You don't need anything else to delete boards, just the Plethora: go into Edit mode, and instead of flicking the "board" mini switch up to create, flick it down and the delete menu will show up. 🙂

[@robertburkarthiii168]

@@PedalPlatform Thanks! I looked everywhere for that function, except, of course, to flip the switch down... These Danish software people have a mind of their own sometimes... But, as someone with a G-system that I got eight years ago, the Plethora is simple by comparison. Thanks so much for your help! Keep up the great work - a lot of what you do is way beyond me, as in, I can see what you're doing, but would never get that far to understand what is actually going on inside this thing. Bob

[@PedalPlatform]

Glad I could help, Bob! 😄