Tchaikovsky Symphony 6 - Movement 2 - Karajan

[@kinyodas]

I rate this movement 5/4.

[@appleheaddefender]

kinyodas oof

[@maxwellfletcher344]

Underrated comment

[@MareBello14]

Cual es su tónica???????????????

[@limi4966]

Just like Tschaikovsky himself...

[@ZaddyGohan]

Wow we got a clever one over here

[@Mamby9Pamby]

yes 5/4 is a very weird time signature, especially at this time. But he makes it sound absolutely natural, and only is you analyze it (as opposed to just listening and enjoying the melody) that you realize it would take some dancing skills to dance to this at a ball!

[@dagudelor]

It´s a ball party, but no a happy one for him. Surrounded by many people, he feels painfully alone.

[@jobbz9107]

I come here when I'm low, when I'm high, at all times. I always want to hear Tchaikovsky.

[@ilkinond]

This is the single most heart-breaking movement of this symphony. If it weren't for this intermezzo the Sixth wouldn't have a fraction of the power that it does.

[@breif1020]

Maurice... I am blessed that that film chose such brilliant music.

[@carolina805]

Masterpiece

[@timothyj1966]

Are you talking about when they sit at the Player Piano and fall in love... ?

[@breif1020]

@@timothyj1966 Yes, that's the scene.

[@heliusfengari]

It is mentioned in the original novel too, by EM Forster.

[@matecsabai5406]

I would volunteerly try to dance to this and then trip over.

[@whitechocolateex]

tchaikovsky is the best melody writer, this is beautiful

[@e.2264]

such a beautiful, yet sad and melancholic part.

[@emshi21]

All I can say about the conducting this is that when playing this piece I realsied that I couldn't count to 5.... causing me to sit there going one TWO three four FIVE one TWO three four FIVE. My maths teacher would be so proud..........

[@Modeltnick]

I can feel the heaviness of this movement.

[@kelwinerica]

I found this piece of music while teaching English. I listen to it when I'm feeling a bit down.

[@eclectichandsproductions]

The best part is at 2:47, so romantic! This is what I hear when I see a beautiful woman in a museum or coffee shop

[@handsafter]

Looks like you do not understand music at all

[@vulcanstarlight]

Ray, I see it too. You’re not alone. It’s okay. I have the gift of otherworldly powers also.

[@BaronElBardo]

It's courious how a song in a Major tone can sound sad and melancholic. Like a raven in your mind slowly pecking your soul and your being. Just like the social stigma Tchaikovski feeled during all his life.

[@Dalaexperience]

Waltz part is in Dmajor and then it hits to B minor

[@AcademyAna]

"You look sad when you think he can’t see you"

[@breif1020]

Hello Molly.

[@spartacusneo4595]

And the very sad that he wrote it when he was dieing.. Last music from Tchaikovsky

[@justinkoga6146]

OH YEAH BABY! LOOK AT THAT BEAST CELLO SECTION!

[@dragmio]

@PintheDog The way I heard, 5/4 measure was extremely popular among the Russian elite of those days. For dance pieces, of course. I think he's denouncing those social circles here. The music sounds very "grazioso", but there is something menacing beneath it. Especially in the part beginning at 2:47. Sooo creepy.

[@BaronElBardo]

It's more a comentary about himself. He was living in a disastrous mariage, and he was living in a society where he should wear a mask to occult his homosexuality. For all these reasons he lived a obnoxius life. Btw, we live in a society where people can express himslself no mater his gender, sexuality, race and all this shit, right? RIGHT? ... ... R... right? :/

[@douknow2]

I wish i met him 😔♥️

[@thebrazilianbishop]

Maravilhosa orquestra e maestro! Maravilhosa gravação! Maravilhoso Tchaikovsky!!!

[@LeonineGoner]

I have the "Tchaikovsky Festival of hits" album on one of my records, this is one of my favourites!

[@cutmeyemaya]

My favourite piece ever.

[@Tryceattack]

I think of it more as a continual switch between 2/4 and 3/4, and the 5/4 being to simplify it.

[@PianistStefanBoetel]

I think most of the uneven bars used around 1900 (e.g. Bartok) are combined common bars in a row.

[@ragnar0209]

That's what 5/4 always is, but how clearly you can hear the beat division varies

[@limi4966]

While playing, counting to 5 is harder then counting to 2 and 3. If a piece with a 5/4 (or 7/8 is also a "common" uncommon messurement) messurement comes up in our orchestra, I almost certainly switch between 2/4 and 3/4 (or 4/8 and 3/8 if it is 7/8) because it is way easier to count.

[@fede6507]

2:46 for all my dear Maurice friends :)

[@mondlichtauphanim]

thank you lmao

[@siriak69]

Best conduction. Perfect romantic interprétation

[@PintheDog]

Very lovely. And quite unconventional, too, that a piece of this era was in 5/4.

[@Warstub]

Have you heard Arensky's Piano Concerto? Composed before Tchaikovsky's 6th, it also has a 5/4 time signature, but in its final movement. It is said that Tchaikovsky was critical of Arensky's use of 5/4, but then he later went and wrote this. Arensky's 5/4 is easier to count sounding more like one-two-three-FOUR-FIVE.

[@tieruoygat]

Love times one million

[@GeraldNorman-vq9je]

Ahhh this movement Is so cute 🎉 ❤

[@chainsnz8164]

gotta love scherzo and trios, always laughing at waltz dancers who miss their footing

[@DavidinCal]

To me it sounds like | 1-2-3 1-2 | 1-2 - 1-2-3 | 1-2-3 1-2- |1-2 1-2-3 | etc.

[@ProudGabe]

+DavidinCal for me it sounds like 12312 |12123 |12345 | 61212

[@sernikkkk]

DavidinCal my music teacher checked notes of this part and it actually goes like this all the time. amazing

[@lucaslemonholm6410]

To me it sounds like 12345 | 12345, etc.

[@Brian-on1zo]

to me it sounds like you fart

[@nora_yasmine]

It is quite an odd time signature

[@timothyj1966]

almost as good as the Player Piano scene in the film Maurice. Just kidding... Such a good recording here. Poor Tchaikovsky! Tortured life for sure... not much has changed in Russia even for 2019 with Gays being round up in Muslim Chechnya

[@Tatiana_Palii]

More like everything changed for the worse since then... if you read Nina Berberova's preface to her biography of Tchaikovsky, she is describing how embarrassed she was about approaching his living relatives (in the 1930's, if I'm not mistaken) about his sexuality. And guess what his sister-in-law said? "At the time there were 8 or 9 gay Grand Dukes, a couple of very conservative politicians and even ministers, and tons of other gay people in high society, and everyone knew about it, so nobody cared really, as long as they didn't get into some huge scandal". The whole law school where he studied was queer as f. They were sometimes a bit too tolerant: once one of the students raped another, and everyone else agreed not to report him to the authorities as it was "a personal matter". Also, unlike in Britain at the time it was only actual sexual acts between men (which aren't that easy to prove) that were criminalized, not something vague like "gross indecency", so gay men didn't have do be worried about their every gesture and facial expression. And people of Tchaikovsky's station were NEVER prosecuted even if everybody knew what they did with other men. It wasn't all doom and gloom. Tchaikovsky was more tormented by his own paranoia and internalized homophobia, then by some actual threat from society or the law.

[@timothyj1966]

@@Tatiana_Palii Yes & No I suppose would have to do some research... both he & His brother were Gay... When I said Tortured ... I was referring to a broken heart--- He was in love and had his heart broken.. we can ALL relate to that Straight or Gay.

[@animalhaus4800]

oh...its heaven to dance to!

[@tomascostero9962]

2:44

[@AlexVictorianus]

When I think of Saint Petersburg, I think of this music

[@izzydelaney411]

Someone please explain 4/5 to me and how count / recognize it ;)?

[@the-chipette]

Essential Technique squad - number 140. Where ya at???

[@kaenbedehem950]

I'm pretty sure I heard this in a video game, but I can't remember which one.

[@tinapixiedoll]

Kaen Bedehem Was it in The Sims 3, maybe?

[@charlieh3510]

Destiny

[@zeroblizero]

This is one of Tchaikovsky's best Waltzers with the 3rd movement chopped off

[@geraldnorman9437]

This Is warmly Cute tified.

[@yasha12isreal]

Ilyich

[@asloii_1749]

This feels more like 5/8 to me

[@user-ry5zu1wo4e]

I swear that's so pretty that I'm in pain.

[@samuelarroyo3042]

:D

[@Aurora-yt3vx]

Himmlisch 🧚‍♂️

[@Crystal-om2lz]

Cell to singularity music box original

[@NealJackMeKC]

Apparently UMG thinks this is from John Williams...

[@rmk2879]

Origins of music unevidenced. Except it is gift to humanity from God the Creator. Music continues in heaven. Discontinues in hell. Jesus Christ died and resurrected for remissions of everybody's pre-existing sins to save from eternal hell. Penalty of sin already paid by Jesus Christ on The Cross. Accept HIM. Be saved from eternal hell. Enter heaven. Enjoy heavenly music. For free.

[@misterchrissy]

no thank you.

[@montykang4719]

2:00