Q : YES OR NO ARE YOU GETTING THE PS5 PRO DAY 1 OR NOT ?🤔 PS5 Pro Day and Night better image quality, the full Graphics Breakdown across multiple games vs PC and base PS5 along with Elden Ring potentially at locked 60 on PS5 Pro, This also include the controversial Alan wake 864p situation and the next state of play update ! - PS5 | PS5Themes | PlayStation #Playstation5 DROP A LIKE before you leave !
@terranceisham9383Ай бұрын
Not
@rachort3811Ай бұрын
@@tcmfgamesofficial Heck yes! Preordering it next week, hopefully.
@da_dude_grubb73Ай бұрын
Day one pre order here from Sony. I hate that I have to pay full price and can't trade in my PS5 to make the pro a little cheaper but I want to make sure that I'm getting it and not being able to get it once it drops at retailers as they will be scalping those for pure resell. Lets not forget Christmas is fast approaching and people are going to try to make a quick buck.
@Alcobia_SАй бұрын
No, definitely not
@TheKing8608_Ай бұрын
Yes indeed 🎉
@edbear84Ай бұрын
I want the PlayStation5 Pro but I want a built in disc version
@first2fire276Ай бұрын
I think you just buy it and add it into the case if you want it. I don’t use disk but I saw people just adding it into the case
@caliginousmoira8565Ай бұрын
very much this....
@96RiyaniАй бұрын
@@first2fire276 then you have to spend more than 800 dollars on ps5 pro, well better just get ps5 normal or get a good pc for 1000 dollar
@neojason8349Ай бұрын
I blame all the people who overpaid for PS5 durning the lockdowns. I saw them being sold for $1500 and those were the first day released models. Everyone knows you wait a few shipments. Now people wanna complain about over priced?
@caliginousmoira8565Ай бұрын
exactly. my brothers and i got pc's instead of over paying for a ps5, only 10700k/3070 but it worked for me.
@asole100Ай бұрын
In fairness those were resellers
@princephillip1481Ай бұрын
@@neojason8349 🤣 I got mine for 1,200 but, it came with an extra dual sense controller, two games, double charging dock, and the Sony gaming headset!!. 😳 lol And i was paying installments!! per month! Yeah, i'm blessed like that. 🤷🏽♂️ But also i need another PS5 right now, might as well get the PS5 Pro. 😁👍🏽
@christopherduren9368Ай бұрын
@@princephillip1481I pay 980 from Walmart I plan to get a ps5 pro myself 😊
@insertnamehere8723Ай бұрын
The problem is that the pro isn't going to see much gains in titles that are CPU heavy as that has effectively remained the same; rather, the focus has been on upscalling and the GPU. I also strongly doubt it's a day and night situation as the console itself is literally just balancing two previous modes with upscaling added. Dont get me wrong, I dont really care about resolution, but given viewing distances and complexity of scenes, it was already a stretch with pixel peeping at the base ps5. I think Sony knows that this is targeting a specific demographic and dont expect everyone to rush to buy it currently. That being said, I will wait until it's out in the wild and thoroughly reviewed/ supported with mire games before buying. I'm still keeping my base ps5 as the future of physical content is hazy as I don't have much trust in the situation with the slim and pro detachable drives, leaving questions about supoort in the future and subsequently collections of games I have collected over the years that I refuse to lose out on with a shortsighted purchases for mininal gains.
@Rlambdin1985Ай бұрын
IT IS A NEW WEEK No PS5 pro for me, don’t want it, don’t need it.
@kermitt1959Ай бұрын
Excuses, u must have a cheap tv
@BigSparky1316Ай бұрын
I would like the pro but we need at least 60fps on pretty much everything. I get 4k won't be possible on everything but I hope they have a higher fps with the higher res, 30fps still sucks in 2024.
@toastyburgerАй бұрын
I hope it runs everything at 60, but it's going to be up to the devs.
@jaimosier8872Ай бұрын
Yes day 1 I don't care about what digital foundry says ..
@tariksoliman2417Ай бұрын
“IT IS A NEW WEEK” “IT IS A NEW WEEK” “IT IS A NEW WEEK” “IT IS A NEW WEEK” Nope, I won’t be getting the PS5 pro at launch if at all TBH!
@QuarantinedCapricornАй бұрын
Definitely getting a PRO, just not sure about launch.
@rachort3811Ай бұрын
I’m getting one but I’ll be lacking a kidney. 😂
@asuraphreakАй бұрын
I won't be until pssr is properly reviewed. Til then, Sony can't genuinely justify that price.
@matheusag9718Ай бұрын
PS6 will be announced in 2027,launch 2028 so u still have time to see how it turns out
@jomac3423Ай бұрын
My day one ps5 works just fine so I'll pass on the pro.
@Immortalbear91Ай бұрын
Mine does too but I can't wait to upgrade
@nazarethproductions7095Ай бұрын
@@Immortalbear91it’s not an upgrade at all from the base version
@LowbudgetGmerАй бұрын
@@nazarethproductions7095that’s because you never played on pc so of course you gonna say that
@EL_-APACHE-_8407Ай бұрын
Mine does to but im still upgrading
@marco8696Ай бұрын
My day almost one is ps5 pro for me...😂
@GujuGamingАй бұрын
I’ll get the PS5 pro, probably 3-6months after. Usually all the bugs at first but new tech and game enhancements will come. Now if ASTRO would get a better adapter
@Keyon_WilsonАй бұрын
All these people saying they're making the jump to PC must have very few games on their consoles. I have almost 140 games physical and digital while only playing 60 of them. All that took 10 years to get and I can't just start all over again with a collection that might take me just as long. I'll get a pro day one if scalpers don't get in the way.
@hittanomiss9702Ай бұрын
You play 1-3 games a year
@Keyon_WilsonАй бұрын
@hittanomiss9702 probably around 4 - 5. I'm a completionist and I like to play 1 game at time before moving on to the next. I can't bounce back and forth between different games.
@siccstepsccsАй бұрын
Same I had to press pause on FFRB and FF16 visually unpleasant can't wait for the pro. I wish you could transfer saves between PC and PS5
@tcmfgamesofficialАй бұрын
I managed to play both games but I wish I had the pro to play a lot of past games at this point 😅
@stephenearly4057Ай бұрын
Love that blue ps5 pro in the opening. Beautiful and honestly how I was going to go with my ps5 pro 💙 can’t wait to jump back to rebirth. Put it down after a couple hours giving both modes a chance and fidelity gave me massive headaches and performance was completely washed out. Was a shame but been hoping the pro will fix it and sounds like they’ve been successful with it
@tcmfgamesofficialАй бұрын
Didn’t realize the hype with blue haha but yeah it looks clean! I will say with this one I didn’t go with Sony’s blue since it’s purplish so yours might not look similar to the one here 😅 I managed to get through FF7 rebirth but would’ve been nice to play it on pro 👌🏽
@hubhub27Ай бұрын
Don’t fall for it! Blue is color that the human eye is automatically attracted to! Sony know what they’re doing.
@markpotter8280Ай бұрын
@@hubhub27 Ahhh and I always thought I was some kind of deviant as a child cause I fancied Smurfette
@Indo-Fury6521Ай бұрын
@@tcmfgamesofficial is there any update for the new PSP?
@husen9941Ай бұрын
i didnt buy ps5, cause im waiting ps5 pro, so fck that $780 i will buy it day 1 or not, doesnt matter.
@strongbow4209Ай бұрын
In the same boat as you except for the fact that I’m gonna purchase it 😂. Sony’s absolutely mad thinking anyone’s gonna purchase that
@brianmcswain8932Ай бұрын
We don’t need raw 4k as long as it looks like it (dynamic)and frame rate is a steady 60fps i’m happy.
@LowbudgetGmerАй бұрын
Agree and the funny thing about PC players is most of them never run their games at full native 4K they do what Sony is doing to have better frame rate that’s what matters tho most
@Fourthson100Ай бұрын
Yes. And i'll give the original to a friend or donate it to charity.
@QwietStormАй бұрын
Performance mode on Rebirth is fine. Sharpness obviously wasn't the best, it did get improved, but it was all overblown. I take frames over pixels every time, especially in an action game.
@PS5GuyАй бұрын
I’m waiting for the PS5 Pro GTA6 bundle of I don’t get it day one
@tcmfgamesofficialАй бұрын
what are you hoping is in the bundle outside of the game? 🤔
@SlowburnripzАй бұрын
You heard it got delayed right was suppose to come out next year now it's holiday 2026......
@PS5GuyАй бұрын
@@tcmfgamesofficial nothing really gta 6 and being future proof is basically it. I’m not as hype for the pro as I was the Og day 1.. so I’ll wait until closer to gta6 or IF they have a bundle with it next year
@Rammer_JammerАй бұрын
@@tcmfgamesofficialdisc drive
@sansari3Ай бұрын
Buying the Pro day one and will make back $350 selling my PS5. Did the same thing when PS4 Pro came out. Sold that when the PS5 came out for $350. Will do the same when the PS6 comes out. Not a big deal because the PlayStation is holding over 50% of its value.
@alexander2685Ай бұрын
Good luck getting your hands on one.
@B1gDevinАй бұрын
Not sure day one but definitely plan to get it
@MIGHTYMAN1256Ай бұрын
Day One for me 🔥🔥💯💯💯
@TheRambossАй бұрын
Hopefully I can get one at launch for retail. Sony didn’t do a good job at explaining its capabilities. That AMD tech in the Pro is not even available on PC yet. You can’t build a PC as strong as the Pro for $700.
@alexander2685Ай бұрын
Well good luck you will need it.
@YAMi_PRiSMØАй бұрын
should you pre order ps5 pro from ps direct or retail stores?
@tcmfgamesofficialАй бұрын
It locked to ps direct for two weeks I believe 🤔
@RiThaKillaАй бұрын
I’m getting it day one. I’ve been waiting four years for it.
@ravenstylea2Ай бұрын
IMO the PS5 Pro was what the PS5 should have been from the start.
@JyGproductionsАй бұрын
Sure, and the ps5 was what the ps3 should have been. Time passes. The pro is too expensive for people now, it would probably cost 900 to 1000 dollars 4 years ago.
@aaronsmith7967Ай бұрын
The resolution doesn't matter to me as I run my PS5 at 1080 on a CRT TV
@justinjenkins1212Ай бұрын
Yes I'm getting it day 1
@davie-c5524Ай бұрын
Looking forward to my ps5 pro, to play with quality but with good frame rate is what’s doing it for me
@edgarflores3040Ай бұрын
Hell yea I'm on day one forsure let just hope that sony does not let us down( love the video)
@HomeCinemaEnthusiastАй бұрын
I’ll be sticking with my OG PS5. No issues and it has a disc drive built in 👌👌
@akumaisreal2090Ай бұрын
Yes or No are you getting a PS5 Pro day one or not?: Definitely not at all. While people are focused on things like the specs and the numbers associated, my focus was on what the tangible end result is. What was presented was higher quality images that can mostly be attributed to ray tracing effects, and can mainly be appreciated by zoomed in perspectives of granular details. To me, this is a minor upgrade, and not one I'm willing to spend $700 on. I get the argument from the perspective of hardware improvements and those points are valid, but again my focus is on the end result, what I can actually see. I can definitely appreciate the frame rate increase, but honestly a $500 PS5 console should have already had a consistent 60fps, so having to invest in a $700 PS5 Pro to finally get something that should have already been there doesn't seem like a fair deal to me. To add insult to injury, the platform as a whole is severely lacking in exclusive games, in part because they lose exclusivity from time to time. I'm happy for those who are excited to get one, but for me; taking everything into consideration, like having to buy an $80 disk drive on top of all I've just mentioned, it's just way too overpriced for what little benefits they offer.
@christopherjones3684Ай бұрын
Day one
@sheikhi1000Ай бұрын
I literally passed the ps5 for ps5 pro, so yes, I'm gonna get it day one. 🎉
@buddyhall5330Ай бұрын
I wished Sony didn't do the show til the 28th, let the people that have faith have a 2 day headstart on ordering the pro....watch how fast they start swallowing their words with no gag reflex after seeing the new stuff
@christopherduren9368Ай бұрын
I know they going see how lot of ps5 game look on the ps5 pro Sony not telling you to go out and buy it
@ianforrest6521Ай бұрын
Why is everyone so angry about the Pro? You don’t have to buy it. I also think next year you’re really going to see the advantages of games running on it. I’m just going to sit tight and wait till February or March until we get some games that are going to benefit from the upgrade.
@MaterLacrymarumАй бұрын
The "you don't have to buy it" is the lamest response you could have given. Well done.
@ianforrest6521Ай бұрын
@@MaterLacrymarum Omg I’m so embarrassed. Should I edit that out? Can we still be friends? Can I still pet your dog? Should I buy an XBOX? TELL ME WHAT TO DO
@MaterLacrymarumАй бұрын
@@ianforrest6521 Don't worry, you can still pet the dog. He wouldn't bite even if I told him to.
@asole100Ай бұрын
@@ianforrest6521 Because if we say nothing they will continue to rip us off
@panoslazidisps5panoslazidi500Ай бұрын
I BUY IT DAY ONE
@AKSBSUАй бұрын
Day one for Pro providing it doesn't involve getting price gouged by scalper scum. I can wait if it's a scalping situation once again.
@zacharykilga6231Ай бұрын
Yes with GTA6 bundle
@antoinegeorge4287Ай бұрын
Waste of money
@DubaiPrince81Ай бұрын
DAY 1
@MrRaymondPlayesGamesАй бұрын
Yes i am. I'm pre-ordering and trading my current PS5
@rachort3811Ай бұрын
GameStop?
@MrRaymondPlayesGamesАй бұрын
@@rachort3811 yessir
@MrRaymondPlayesGamesАй бұрын
They currently have deals especially for pro members if you trade you get extra for your original disk edition ps5
@a.n.3284Ай бұрын
Last week I unexpectely got €900+ because I payed to much taxes. It's God's way of telling me: Andres, you need to buy the PS5 Pro! And I'm all in for it. Hallelujah! :p
@ramboskee2019Ай бұрын
IT IS A NEW WEEK and can’t wait for Friday already 😆
@jerekleimola7823Ай бұрын
Thank you for the news and updates 😁 1. With that price! HELL NO!! 😱 2. Good 😁 3. I'm waiting for PS6 😁 4. Yes! 😁 IT IS A NEW WEEK
@pauls6909Ай бұрын
Goin to try and get one but I’m sure the scalpers will be out hot and heavy! Try getting duel sence edge modules, there are non unless you want to pay double for it 19 going for 36$+
@chrisduley7389Ай бұрын
60 fps for Dragons Dogma 2, that's what I was waiting for.......looks like I'm buying the Pro. I'm hoping it improves Blood Bourne's frame rate problems too
@ray17293Ай бұрын
where is Robin Hood when you need him
@tcmfgamesofficialАй бұрын
What? 😅
@mightymorphingpo2Ай бұрын
@@tcmfgamesofficialmarvel Spider-Man 2
@alexander2685Ай бұрын
So true old schoolers know that well.❤😉
@mightymorphingpo2Ай бұрын
@@alexander2685 marvel Spider-Man 2 it’s not PS5 no not allowed only PS4 i need it
@ridgeislandАй бұрын
I'll buy pro for sure if I can get a good trade-in offer for my PS5 Slim
@IngiDeeАй бұрын
They should increase the exclusives for the system rather than increasing performance.
@garymccormack7504Ай бұрын
Yes day one
@Pressuresounds4uАй бұрын
There's definitely more things that are important at 700 that I could buy and keep enjoying the ps5
@onlydadopestАй бұрын
The only time I will buy a ps5 pro when they have one of those bundle with a console art design on the cover. That when I’ll buy it day 1 when that happens
@tampad854Ай бұрын
I'm getting it, tired of upgrading my PC and waiting for upcoming exclusive games to play on the PRO.
@c.j.8803Ай бұрын
Excited if they are actually gonna show anything worth seeing !
@Sam-FisherАй бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@toastyburgerАй бұрын
By all reports, the PS5 Pro provides improved image quality at a more stable 60 fps. That's all I want. Day 1 purchase for me. Over the next 4 years, games are going to tax the base PS5 more and more. As long as the Pro delivers 60 fps, I'll be happy.
@markpotter8280Ай бұрын
On another note I hope Playstation bring back 12 days of play over the festive season I miss that, it was fun seeing what game they are giving us next especially now that PSN premium is so expensive. Also bring back game sharing if you own more than 1 playstation then I could have a PS5 Pro in one room and a base PS5 in another and play via lan without having to buy the game twice. (they use to do up to 5 PS3's at one point)
@joffreyraven996Ай бұрын
I keep changing my mind as well. Upgrade my gpu to a 4070 super or changing my ps5 for a ps5 pro. I want to play more in the living room but my 1440p screen there doesnt do the ps5 justice, so Im bound at playing in my bed on my LG c2. With icc profiles my pc games look good on my 1440p. I like to play with kb and m as well. But still… Playstation always wins me over in the end. I’ve been running the same games on pc and ps5 one after the other to try to decide what I’m going for and I’m losing my mind🙃 So yeah, check if yr screen is good enough… Image quality will improve more drastically changing to a good screen then upgrading to the pro imo.
@crymsonenigmaАй бұрын
I'm definitely getting one at launch.
@Randomhero614Ай бұрын
People in 2024 acting like the tech inside the Pro isn't worth the price tag, is wild.
@alexander2685Ай бұрын
It's not about pretty graphics pcs do that it's gameplay they lied to use before when we bought our ps5 8k on the box was not fuliled.
@raichu9489Ай бұрын
It’s not worth the money, they could’ve just updated the FSR in the current console like they just did for AMD cards on PC.
@desirewithinusАй бұрын
Right now? No Next year or so? May be. I don't have a ps5 currently, but I'm getting one soon, and I'm going for the slim. Non pro PS5 is still a beast and the slim model with a disc drive, I can get it for around £300 in FB Marketplace.
@DataCymru1701Ай бұрын
Nope, not getting paid what I used to, will stick with my PS5 for a few years😊
@Anything.is.PossibleАй бұрын
If you want a real upgrade? Try replacing your tv with a oled or really good 1440p 120hz+ gaming monitor.
@dmoney8211Ай бұрын
Yes,I plan to trade in my physical ps5 toward the ps5 pro and pay the difference and I don’t need the disc drive
@Sam-FisherАй бұрын
AWESOME
@mustang750rАй бұрын
If the PS5 Pro was coming in at 599 I would've got it day one
@hubhub27Ай бұрын
I just wanna know if I can play Minesweeper on it and will it run at a locked in 60fps
@paulr884Ай бұрын
Passing on the pro, but will start saving for the 6 now lol
@ElCroGamingАй бұрын
Im definitely getting it PS5 pro is the way there price is perfect for the graphics they are providing and its totally worth it! 💯💯💯
@slakr2392Ай бұрын
I can’t wait for my PS5 Pro when I get it 🤩
@carlharrison3637Ай бұрын
I hope FF16 will get some kind of patch to at least allow higher framerates
@Josh_NwАй бұрын
IT IS A NEW WEEK
@heatwaveps5Ай бұрын
everyone thinking we tech experts it not just how powerful the console is it your tv aswell if you own a 1080p tv then no point buying the ps5 pro I just gone from a sony 4k 120hz allm vrr to a w-oled lg c3 that a huge difference in hdr brightness & the picture quality the base ps5 to the pro is the same don't let people put you off if you want the pro it last you 4 to 5 years easy for me I hoping to get in but I am prepared to wait till maybe after Xmas
@Games4ever_jpАй бұрын
yeah ur right I did the same buying a LG oled c4 and it looks amazing insane playing games on 30 fps smoothly and soooo good that seems running on 60 fps I'm sooo happy for this !!!
@heatwaveps5Ай бұрын
@Games4ever_jp I do think tho ps5 pro should come with the slim stand tho for that price 699.99 & you got the c4 nice I just had my c3 55 inch for 4 weeks great price 899.99 & 5 year warranty you need a high end tv to for this consoles & I have a waste of time 30fps series x
@asole100Ай бұрын
except this isn't 4k content, and you're not going to hit 120 FPS
@heatwaveps5Ай бұрын
@asole100 that correct closer to 4k 60 lock it sony first party who will use all ps5 pro power & improvements like the pssr & ultra mode I still hope to get it for me worth the upgrade & last 4 to 5 years gaming better than base ps5
@asole100Ай бұрын
@@heatwaveps5 Brother it is upscaled, it is not close to 4K. I'm just going to skip this whole gen, I just wanted to play one game, and they say they will delay it till 2026 so who knows but either way I don't think a PS5 anything is worth it atm, not till they release more games.
@TheGrenadeSquadАй бұрын
Definitely getting ps5 pro
@nparker2088Ай бұрын
Seeing as I barely have time to play my ps5 I can’t justify buying one right now
@Searching4ReasonАй бұрын
Day one...if I can. Tight on money atm, but I should have it by launch.
@tcmfgamesofficialАй бұрын
Hope you get that money together brother 💪🏽
@bruin098Ай бұрын
If you're tight on money and already have a PS5 I would highly advise against getting the Pro
@brianmcswain8932Ай бұрын
@@bruin098Or trade in your Base model and some games.👍
@Searching4ReasonАй бұрын
@brianmcswain8932 Yup, still have the original PSVR, just collecting dust. Have a Nintendo Switch with games that I haven't touched in over a year. Figure it'll all help get there.
@deadmousesqueaksАй бұрын
Yes, I will be getting it day one if I have enough saved.
@E89458Ай бұрын
Yes, going PRO!
@neerajthakur708Ай бұрын
In india it will costs ₹70,000 around $835 USD Which = 42% monthly income of middle class family, includes 40% of Indians 98% monthly income of lower middle class which includes 50% of Indians Forget about disk drive they don't even include the stand in it making it easier to tip and break. Man if this is an experiment to check how much Sony fan boys are going to for the PS6 then I hope it doesn't even make 1% of sales by the end of this generation
@MartinSchmuckVRАй бұрын
I assume I will get the Pro but I want to see first how it performes especially with PSVR2
@tyleredmundson3494Ай бұрын
I’m only thinking of getting the pro because I’m still sitting around with the ps4
@kingjames5409Ай бұрын
Same here sitting on the ps4 pro.
@hp1799Ай бұрын
I will try to buy on the first day if I can’t I’ll just have to wait
@jonathanadams943Ай бұрын
Cannot wait
@edwardsnider1334Ай бұрын
When is state of play September 24th?
@unknown-jx5ytАй бұрын
ive been a PlayStation guy through through for years but i dont think i can convince myself to spend $700 for a PS5 Pro. thats asking too much imo as long as my PS5 runs fine.
@CraigMarz-hk7xcАй бұрын
I'm still desiding if I what to get playstation 5 pro have to wait for the second batch
@B-U-T-C-H-E-RАй бұрын
Yes, day 1. The PSSR technology will be part of PlayStations future and I want to see it evolve. I don't know what people expected, of course it was going to be expensive. Once people start seeing comparisons, they'll shut up
@michaelbarattin4458Ай бұрын
Quality content here
@israelrivera2836Ай бұрын
Yes day one ps5 pro next week start the pre-order I have 400 to pre-order ❤
@emjay6453Ай бұрын
IT IS A NEW WEEK‼️ Day one as long as they in stock on line and store and pre-orders are not cookd' 😂
@kall9481Ай бұрын
Definitely getting the pro.
@watkinsjames82Ай бұрын
It Is A New Week. No Pro for me until Sony starts showing me its worth it because im not seeing the difference between what im playing vs what they're showing. My system isn't showing this blur seen in the demo videos. My systems is nice and smooth on every single game they showed so far
@shanebluesky7452Ай бұрын
Not on lauch this thing has to stand the test of time and prove that 800$ price tag. Could've given disk drive as a bundle but nope.
@kaiserpr0728Ай бұрын
I hope I can run black myth wukong better. 4k 60fps with better ray tracing is enough for me to pay the $699.99. I hope GTA6 can run 4k 60fps. All ps5 games should look better and run better, ps4 tittles too. The ps6 should be using the equivalent of a RTX4080ti super. So pc gamers can still brag about the new RTX5090 with 36G and a new ryzen 9 20090 with 64 cores and 128 threads for the low cost of $6k
@ramiromoreira2557Ай бұрын
I already reserved mine in a local store.
@alexander2685Ай бұрын
Where did you go and did you have to put a down payment.
@caimhighwind5530Ай бұрын
It is a new week I'm not getting the PS5 Pro I don't mind waiting for PS6 Does it improve Bloodborne and other PS4 games need smoother gameplay
@andrewbailey8068Ай бұрын
I am happy with my basic ps5 and I would not pay that much just for abit of difference in graphic wise
@Blueman2018Ай бұрын
I wait untill game stop 🛑 get some then trade my ps5 for the ps5 pro
@bgouveiachАй бұрын
Yes I am
@Noble99218Ай бұрын
It’s not just quality for the PS5Pro. It’s also better game play response Mark Cerney mention it in the presentation.