PS5 vs PS5 PRO - BIGGEST Changes

Sony's PS5 Pro has been announced. Let's discuss the PS5 Pro release date, price, features and more.
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[@Nick-4K]

No disc drive for 700 is wild.

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

Still to much even if it had a disc drive.

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

Pay more for less: the modern state of gaming

[@MeggaMann_theBlueLion]

@@NIGameYeah uh no shit Sherlock. But I’m good with my OG PS5 disc

[@gambello1195]

​@@NIGameYeah oh yeah and what'd that go for, like $50? lmao no thanks

[@bluethan806]

No VERTICAL STAND for $700 is wild

[@Shanghaimartin]

As PlayStation fan, this feels like a PS3 moment, where Sony need a kick in the teeth and to be brought back down to earth again.

[@talibong9518]

SEGA should quickly throw a console together, call it the Phoenix, and the announcement... "599"

[@djpwrc]

As a former playstation fan, sony doesnt care about us anymore only the numbers in your bank account. Its time to give up and support xbox or something

[@reaperraider999]

​@@djpwrcPC really is the way to go. Yes its expensive but you don't have to pay for online play and it gets access to xbox and playstation exclusives (even if it is usually well after the game releases)

[@joshuacovingtonburt]

Just buy a PC. Microsoft already puts all of their games on Steam and Sony is starting to do the same (but requires a PSN account).

[@shawziiz5031]

​@@djpwrcThe answer is PC. Nah not Xbox, that just the same shit. Heck they do this shitty stuff first. Same with Nintendo. PC is the right choice. Emulator and piracy go brrrr. I ain't giving single dime to all this greedy company since they too focus to get rid of physical copy and wanting us to "get used not owning games".

[@monkeeee]

The biggest change is the difference in your bank account

[@Lawrence_Talbot]

After Concord Sony has a lot of arrogance to charge $700 for essentially nothing

[@zjflametv6439]

lol 🤣🤣

[@NOT-A-Monolith]

Broke boy hahaha 😆 omg your so poor. Jk yeah those prices are insane they're ps3 prices back in 2006 if we count inflation fttttt that.

[@geraldedouard8102]

Lol facts 💯

[@crazybanana2228]

Not as much as a pc

[@ThanosTheGod]

Next their gonna sell a dualsense pro controller for $400 with Analog sticks sold separately 😂😂😂

[@MASTEROFEVIL]

I wouldn't put it past them if they did

[@killjoy40oz42]

Don't give em any ideas!!!!

[@deebostall]

if my controller break that’s the end of my gaming career

[@spittaandretti2020]

You’re getting a raise - Sony employee

[@CHARLIE-gv1xg]

Yet people will buy an iPhone every year for $1200

[@ShaddoII]

"vertical stand sold separately" Yeah... get bent Sony.

[@scarmucci1918]

. . checks calendar ... nope ... not April 1 today ... ... ... checks drivers license ... nope ... not born yesterday !!! ... seriously Sony .. WTF ?!??!?

[@secondchance6603]

I wonder if the port for expanding the memory is shaped slightly different so that you have to purchase a special one from Sony and can't just swap out the one you'd use in a regular PS5?

[@PulseOfMe]

I'm more pissed about no disc drive. I'm quitting gaming as soon as every console is gonna be all digital I refuse to be in a hobby where my rights as a consumer does not matter anymore and the control in hand becomes fully in the hands of the greedy corporation

[@monkeys7187]

I’m not defending but they did that with the ps5 slim too so idk why people are so surprised.

[@thomasrigamonti1566]

That made me laugh

[@BucklingSwashes]

This is literally a 75% price increase over the digital base model, FOUR YEARS LATER.

[@SlapsRUS]

they gotta make their money back for that flop of a game Concord they allowed to be released. lol

[@digitalxtremehg]

Crazy smh and four years ago I had spare change to buy Darkplates 2.0 for my original ps5 lol

[@itizwhatitiz9560]

At first I was wondering they were too sold on the game to not even market it, now I realise they actually ran out of money to market it. This is such a big loss​@@SlapsRUS

[@albl2171]

Yeah but u actually get 25% more CPU & 45% more GPU power 😂😂😂😂

[@MN-jw7mm]

At this point, buy a 1500 PC, and save money on games by buying them on sale for $2 and not paying a fee to play MP games every month.

[@benioz1763]

Sony got greedy again. They need to be taught a lesson.

[@xxczerxx]

The conditions are not there this time...unless Microsoft does an "about-face" and goes back to being a console brand, who is going to stop Sony? They run a monopoly now, and Nintendo is not a competitor as they exist in a totally different market sector.

[@Flaggyt]

Look at the phone market, people buy it anyway. They complain on the internet, but the next day they order it cause of fomo.

[@kreestoph]

I would bet their selling this at a loss.

[@Macky4941]

No one is forcing you to buy it. If you can't afford it that's on you and it's not a big deal .

[@benioz1763]

@@Macky4941 consoomer

[@GamingEpicallyOfficial]

The PS4 Pro was $500 for us here in Canada. The PS5 Pro is $960 and the disk drive is $100. $1060 is absolutely outrageous. More than double the price of the PS4 Pro, yet with smaller differences compared to what the PS4 Pro brought

[@tylere.8436]

PC is getting better by the generation.

[@savagekid3716]

facts

[@SavageRoosterOnThaLooster]

Absolutely wrong. Pricing is redic, but the diff between ps4 -PS4 pro was not as big as ps5-ps5 pro

[@piccadillycircus9416]

@@SavageRoosterOnThaLoosteryou on drugs ? PS4 slim vs PS4 pro was day and night meanwhile I’m still waiting to be impressed by any ps5 title over PS4 games , ps5 is not worth upgrade cos unlike PS4 library ps5 game library sucks balls

[@rickyknowles]

​@piccadillycircus9416 PS5 is night and day above PS4 Pro. But either way this is a ridiculous price

[@georgejones5019]

$700 to play PS4 games is wild.

[@mikenice215]

WAKE IT UP

[@gRubey]

True… remake and remaster console generation

[@LethalMartialArtist]

If only PS4 consoles existed 🤷‍♀️

[@colonel_angus82]

@@LethalMartialArtistI’ve got a PS4 Pro for sale if you want one, haha!

[@ketanahire984]

PS5 Pro finally running TLOU 1 and 2 Remastered at 4K 60 fps! 🤡

[@Ray__E]

I don't have a PS5. I was waiting to get a Pro but not now. That price is absolutely ridiculous, especially with no disc drive and stand

[@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure]

Exxxxxxactly where in at. I'm very disappointed. PS5 is a swing and a miss. I guess I'll wait on the 6.

[@bluespiral4678]

For years, I forwent buying a PS5 waiting for the pro. I literally bought a PS5 Slim a week ago and decided to forget about the pro. Glad I did

[@Zekegedd]

Yeah I'm a unsure if I'm going to get it now. I never bought a PS5 but there are a couple of exclusives I want to play, and since GTA 6 will be console only on release I thought I might as well wait for the PS5 pro. But $700...but I also really want to play GTA6...

[@JunJunMusume]

I'm the same. I have been waiting for the Pro version for a long time but if it's going to be like this, I might just go for the regular one.

[@OccasusRaven]

@Ray__E then get original ps5, problem solved

[@fasterdays]

Perfect opportunity for Sega to come out of nowhere and announce a new console with a one word statement: "299".

[@SquallRanger]

Broo that would be awesome. Right on

[@gamerforlife3946]

Would actually sell more and get support lol

[@Luke973T]

Yeah and have ps3.5 graphics

[@jasonc.6861]

​Honestly that would be fine with me, would like to see more affordable options for consoles​@@Luke973T

[@SolarErazer]

​@gamerforlife3946 umm wouldn't

[@lyconxero457]

Honestly, the biggest problem I have with the PS5 Pro right now is that I simply don't play my current PS5 enough to justify the purchase. I used to consider myself a heavy user but recently I even let my PS Plus membership slip because I wasn't even turning on my PS5 anymore. In the end, it's the games that sell the hardware and the only good thing going for this new console is that it still has 4 years of possible banger games to peak people's interest before the PS6 makes it irrelevant.

[@michaelfleming3474]

Wys

[@killculator8124]

I lowkey only play when it’s with friends

[@shadowfox4027]

1,020 dollars Canadian after taxes. For a 45% improvement? No disc drive or vertical stand in box. No thanks. Not even the scalpers will touch this one.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

Isn't even a 45% improvement. All they did was add AI Frame Gen that can be added via update and a M.2 SSD cost isn't high anymore max 100 USD so straight up unjustifiable

[@bigmiki2620]

Let's not act like 45% isn't substantial, however I completely understand your point and it's weird how cheap they're being. No stand wtf?

[@KingOfhearts72]

@@bigmiki2620 legit the only thing it has going is maybe games won’t crash as much and load as long?

[@rext3404]

Lol. If it was a new Nvidia GPU I'd say that's amazing (considering the past few years). For a console though? That's rough.

[@DuSeun]

​@bigmiki2620 45% faster rendering is substantial on paper, but in reality it probably won't matter. Current games already run fine at 60fps with dynamic reskution, and to run native 4k@60fps or 120fps you need a lot more than that. The differences might be noticeable in a side by side, but if you already own a ps5 it's not worth it

[@pranavsharma5101]

They're discouraging the disc owners by selling the disc drive separately...😵 Sony's really hell bent on making their consumers shift to digital purchase of their games and it's really sad

[@dingo702]

@@pranavsharma5101 yeah and their prices in the ps store can be ridiculous too compared to what I can find physical..

[@ErrorEmpirE]

There is no passion, only profit. And they don’t realize, the growth from last generations came from passion… of the creatives and the players, and the profit followed. By capitalism dictates infinite growth. And with no competition to keep them in check, we get this. And $70 games with $40 season passes, and micro transactions

[@sprmn1983]

​@@ErrorEmpirE70 dollar game old news, they be gettin' 100+. Just watch GTA6 set the bar really high

[@Stinkyremy]

Its because digital purchases is the way to go. Discs as a storage medium are outdated and dying, just like casettes, carts, floppy as well as CD and DVD rom has gone. SSD is the storage medium now. Gotta move with the times. Remember PC has been fully digital for over a decade now.

[@Stinkyremy]

@@ErrorEmpirE This is clearly designed for enthusiasts, not average consumers. You are delusional.

[@OurHeroXero]

$700 USD for a slight improvement over the PS5. Yeah, I'd sooner buy a Nintendo Switch 2 for myself and a friend.

[@ggunter2730]

Plot twist: Switch 2 is $800

[@Akira-bd6lx]

This guy said "slight" improvement...

[@Tahmaysu]

@@Akira-bd6lx Slight improvement in terms of the detail we've actually seen in gameplay footage.

[@ricandadd1]

The switch 2 won't be as powerful as a ps5 ..

[@ihmpall]

Alright we get it you’re broke move along

[@tidepoolclipper8657]

PS5 Pro has an even bigger price tag than OG PS3 and the fact it doesn't come with a disc drive for no additional charge makes the regular PS5 seem more appetising.

[@thornstrikesback]

Remember when companies openly took a loss on the hardware because it was the software that made the money? Now it's make all the money from the hardware and don't even make the software.

[@theonewhowrotethis5681]

Besides Nintendo as they sell everything at a profit.

[@boxhead6177]

Its digital only - and Sony takes a subscription fee and 30% off all games and MTX sales... and they still selling it for a high profit price, that nuts. Valve sells the Steam Deck at near cost because they know full well they make all their money on Steam sales. (like a top spec Steam Deck is cheaper than the PS5 Pro) XBox sells for low margin/loss (figures not known) cause they have said they make all their money on Gamepass.

[@jacobterpstra7490]

LOL underrated comment.

[@brandonlanoue7287]

​@theonewhowrotethis5681 at the way it's going nintendo may be the last ones standing lol probably not tho

[@jerseytiger1980]

It was probably $500-600 a week or so ago, now they have to recoup that $100 million loss from Concord 😂

[@leonkenedy4616]

No disk tray, no vertical stance support, not even a descent showcase of a flag ship game. Is not just about the price but also dignity.

[@aliq45]

they should have shown games that really struggle to reach 60 fps like final fantasy 16 but they knew it wont work because the devs are too lazy to optimize their own game so the ps5 pro is unnecessary

[@nerise100]

I would have hoped that they shrunk it as well

[@JizzSock_]

You're talking about ponies here. What dignity 😅

[@iinmyzzonee.]

$700 no disc drive is crazy

[@fatoof4904]

Better off keeping my ps5 that actually has a disc drive

[@ghostlightinthegreenroom]

For real. I was just starting to rebuild my physical media collection again and will *never* be going no-disk drive.

[@williamtaylor3687]

No way, are you serious?

[@coreyaldridge1753]

I love a physical copy more than anything, but unfortunately I can see how everything is going to go digital in time. It's becoming more common to get a physical case with a code to download the game.

[@fatoof4904]

@@williamtaylor3687 I think they’re trying to phase out hard copy games and make it full digital

[@rolfathan]

I appreciate that you really dove into the explanation before getting deeper into your opinions. A lot of channels seemed to just come out swinging, and didn't give me the room to hear it out before they kinda dumped on it. Haha I don't think I saw the mention of the 2tb SSD in other videos I saw. I will be buying this console, in years from now, used. $700 is much better spent on a PC if you want newer stuff. Controller support is so much better than it used to be, means of streaming your PC to TVs are better than ever. I get more frustrated with how long it takes a console to update than my PC, to be honest. The whole point of consoles was ease of use.

[@ie6248]

3:17 buy a 700 console to play the same games that we already beat? Just for us to say "oh... that looks a lil better"

[@KrishnaBheemul]

If you can't afford it don't buy it.

[@Mehrshad84]

​@@KrishnaBheemuluse your brain not your money

[@Bizzar735]

@@KrishnaBheemulno brain comment smh

[@EdwardKenway130]

​@@KrishnaBheemulThere is the Andrew Tate Fan

[@ie6248]

@@KrishnaBheemul oh absolutely.

[@LordYggdrasill]

Let's negotiate. >Throw in the disc drive >Throw in the vertical stand >Drop the price to $600 Now you have a deal.

[@mhdirham2276]

$500 at best

[@Root_boy]

I'd buy it for 650, euro's even, if they include those items. Currently it's $1050 in europe at current exchange rates. Not a chance.

[@DespicablepunK25]

How about tree fiddy?

[@thegameof_life5519]

Your asking for too much

[@liamhoude573]

And a second Dualsense.

[@kimosabi320]

700USD?? No Disc drive, no stand??! That's 3000MYR in my country! Just to put things to perspective, the minimum wage in my country is 1500MYR. That's a 2 MONTHS salary!! Fuck off Sony!

[@10aDowningStreet]

Jesus, that's like £3000, I can see why people homebrew. You could buy a semi decent car and a series S for less.

[@Justakatto]

i think for us in LK its like 10 months of salary if we're going by min wage lol maybe even more cuz of tax

[@Reveries0129]

LOL and it’s probably gonna be like 3.5k when it get to here

[@kimosabi320]

@@10aDowningStreet console gaming used to be a great choice for casual gamers who just want to play games without forking up too much of their budget. It's sad to see it's no longer the case.

[@kimosabi320]

@@Justakatto ouch, I feel you buddy. That sort of feeling kinda sucks. How bout PC gaming? Is PC viable in your country?

[@dholmlund]

The main reason I didn't get a PS5 (yet?) is because I can't sit it horizontally and have it sit perfectly flat-nice and easy-like the PS4. I'm not gonna stand it up vertically. The PS5 slim should have been made to sit perfectly horizontal and not need plastic pieces to make it sit correctly. I'm surprised the Pro wasn't re-designed to sit flat.

[@KingOfhearts72]

The price. Which is a NO from me dawg. In THIS economy!?

[@xSoul_77]

You say that when the base ps5 is $600..”in this economy” yes it’s digital but did they say you needed it to play whatever games come out? No. So keep the base 5 and you’re 100% fine, at the end of the day it’s just a upgraded digital version with a new look not the ps6 geez😂

[@KingOfhearts72]

@@xSoul_77 no one but the scalpers bought base PS5s at launch brah… and INSANELY wealthy streamers. I didn’t get mine until last year. For MUCH lower price.

[@xSoul_77]

@@KingOfhearts72 mostly scalpers bought the first wave, and even when the second wave dropped at the exact same price, those sold out to primarily actual buyers with the restrictions that were in place, after that scalpers weren’t an issue and the digital dropped for 500 so again people are whining over a $100 increase for an upgrade to a console they don’t even need to buy if they want a disk drive, it’s not being made obsolete, it’s just like the ps4 pro was to the ps4 people just don’t think for themselves anymore and go off of what everyone else says, if you thought for a second you’d realize if you already have a ps5 with the disc you don’t need the pro, that’s why there’s 2 versions..

[@FrankHaul]

You can thank biden for that

[@xSoul_77]

@@FrankHaul people like you who bring political bull into gaming are a d@mn plague, for you to not like Biden you seem to have as many brain cells as him

[@ayo1959]

So basically if you want the PS5 Pro + vertical stand+ disk drive you're paying taxes included $1000 😂

[@geordiejones5618]

That's why I'm getting the new Steamdeck. $650 for the best option with way more games than Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft have.

[@ey1615]

Might as well switch to PC

[@Nunaden0]

Come to pc

[@talibong9518]

Double the price for only 67% more GPU, and the extra storage is only worth $50

[@christophermartin1472]

Ps5 runs better than a steam deck

[@HighPointReviews]

How you made this into an 11 minute video is impressive. 😂

[@ludajr91]

Same, I was like Sony couldn't even be bothered to put as much effort as they did with this.

[@shernandez31]

Because it's mostly complaining (rightfully so) not just the differences

[@Hexx24]

You got something wrong, Linus! The PS5 Pro in the "adjusted for inflation" graph doesn't include a disk drive or stand. The base PS5 includes a stand. And all of them include a disk drive. With those included, that would make it $810 instead of the $699 you have shown.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Basically 1000 bucks when all is said and done lol. Might as well get a decent gaming pc instead. Like I did lol I love my sick gaming pc!

[@Hexx24]

​@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 or if you want the exclusives, just a regular PS5.

[@blarebear6972]

1. Way more expensive 2. You feel sad for buying it 3. You're debt is even more crippling 4. Slightly better performance (just get a pc at this point) 5. No disc, no stand, and there are some grooves on the case

[@SGxShadow]

Agreed. These days you can get a damn good gaming PC for $1,000.

[@Bishtawe27]

realistically, it'd cost more to buy a pc with the same kind of performance and specs the pro would produce. No stand is like punch to the teeth, while no disc drive is a kick to the balls.

[@Loud.Thoughts]

“Get a PC at this point” even though the lack of a disc drive is the main complaint as well as price. This is still cheaper than building a PC that runs every game smoothly for the next 10 years.

[@SamuraiDanny]

No way you can buy a good pc that costs 700 you smoking something.

[@ericmann1781]

@@SamuraiDanny Agreed, their argument would only work if you already have a PC and upgrade it with that $700. But even then, consoles and basically hyper efficient pc's, you don't get your money's worth in PC since 2020, I would say it's a toss up and you're getting ripped off either whichever way you go.

[@fearlesscheshirecat1411]

700 dollars for no stand or a disc drive….? Sony really pulled an Apple today….. I’m getting PS3 flashbacks.

[@TheChcam]

To be fair the ps5 should cost more than a midrange phone..

[@MarquisDeSang]

Shut up poor

[@__G___]

If you want a disc drive and stand you're looking at $900 with tax

[@rappakalja5295]

​@@MarquisDeSang Bootlicker detected.

[@__G___]

@@TheChcam stop being a fan boy, you're comment is ridiculous 🙄

[@VoyagersRevenge]

Those comparison shots aren't doing enough to convince me yet!

[@v8706]

Yeah exactly like whats the point of giving that much money for some background more clear background and main issue is that in some counteries that disc drive s price is so high . Iam sticking up with my og ps5

[@ShaunJones-t9e]

Facts!!

[@frankjoz2803]

It is noticable if you have large 4k tvs and you are obsessed with comparison videos. Most people won't even notice or care.

[@gamerforlife3946]

Imagine them comparing a ps4 remastered game between two ps5s, that’s how you know the comparison they are doing is soooo bad

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

Those games are not convincing either Most of those games have a pc port So no dice there And many of those games are very very old But I guess bloodborne will still run at 30fps in pro version

[@RahiyanChowdhury-il4se]

They still haven’t learned after concord

[@sozaj]

No disc drive; no purchase.

[@beastmaster6943]

You will own nothing and be happy ~Klaus Schwaub

[@jarde1989]

Pro stands for PROFIT I’ll just wait for the Switch 2 since it’ll have actual exclusives

[@sevn8757]

The competition for the switch 2 is 700 to 800 dollars right now, I hope we don't get screwed

[@handlehandle12322]

get an emulator

[@BlackTone91]

You know that your console don't need to stand to work?

[@1_underthesun]

They should just come right out with it and rename the stand to the "Concord Stand"

[@theesurge321]

The Steam deck can run your games for free and at higher resolution and framerates

[@Hugh_Jannis]

It's pretty evident by now launch consoles are just prototypes for the pro versions. Having already spent money on a PS5, I'll just wait for the PS6 Pro

[@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure]

Hopefully... it'll come with a disc drive.

[@RomnysGonzalez]

@@Straight_White_Fatherly_Figure Looking at Sony. Is gonna come at the price of 1000 usd, without controller incluided and no disc drive

[@dannyrpt]

If you really think about it, what will the PS6 do better than the PS5? What'll be new other than prices going up. PS5 is already fast enough

[@mmorris2830]

​@@RomnysGonzalezdon't forget the not included "Sony Approved" power supply and the 24/7 online requirement and active PSN subscription to enable the display outputs 😅

[@xmusic2049]

Just get a PC

[@bananasean5145]

I like that they hired Dana Carvey to give the presentation.

[@boxhead6177]

I wish they did, at least Dana Carvey wouldn't look blankly into a Teleprompter like he had glaucoma

[@SpecialNeedsLuther803]

You’re crazy. That was a debut of Sony’s first AI-generated npc

[@beastmastreakaninjadar6941]

I kept waiting for him to say "Isn't that special?"

[@markb.2332]

My first reaction was like: oh look, it's Garth Algar!

[@AlexTRex3000]

The only reason this isn't the top comment is that only like 30% of the people here know who that is.

[@Blvck-14]

Here some funny ideas for Sony: PlayStation 6 priced at $999 Controller and cables sold separately SSD sold separately

[@diogoferreira5883]

Don't give them ideas!

[@cin2110]

Base Ps6 will be 700$ if this pos sells

[@nxsded]

You’re hired!

[@ProZombieVeteran]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they sold the controllers separately.

[@emilerpel8342]

i remeber correctly Nintendo sold their XL3DS without loading cable. I'm sure Sony can learn from them😊

[@carlackersii]

I could not care less about the graphical changes. Even the side by side was barely noticeable to me. Especially not for 700 fucking dollars

[@holodoctor1]

I didn't think I'd need the PS4 Pro, and then as the generation went on I really regretted getting it because new games were pushing against the ability of the PS4. It may seem silly now, but I'm sure as this generation continues, the PS5 pro will start to really shine. I'm not going to make the mistake of waiting again.

[@xenokitty]

Lol "vertical stand sold separately" I guess they gotta make the money back that they lost on Concord somehow 😂

[@TianLong72k]

Lmao good one😂

[@thegamingfan5222]

Ouch, too soon😂

[@0Valencia1]

They gotta make that psvr2 money back

[@xenokitty]

@@0Valencia1 lol that too

[@dillonbanks609]

You forgot the disc try as well

[@WhiteLightning476]

They barely even focus on creating games utilizing the actual PS5 hardware… The pro version is an entire cash grab so the consumer thinks they’re getting better quality out of games being made in the future

[@SuperSteph5]

Maybe I'm crazy but most ps5 games use the ps5 hardware to the fullest. Everything runs at a stable 60fps and loading screens are practically nonexistent.

[@WhiteLightning476]

@@SuperSteph5 not necessarily… most of the games say PS4/PS5 so how are they made specifically for the PS5 when theres the PS4 port holding it back? Dev companies would have to completely remake the entire game for PS5 in these cases and it would cost them so much more time/effort/money , companies dont want to do that lol

[@forresttilghman1098]

Well honestly marketing wise pro version is the true next generation hardware.. doing upscaling to hit that higher res and 60 fps and graphics.. Ps5 just jigging which one you want to do.. in terms of marketing I feel pro versions are what people originally wanted from the next generation hardware

[@vandarkholme4745]

That's what I feel now after owning a ps5 for 3 years, and the lineup ended up a disappointment to me. :(

[@ZiggyDoom]

Who else cant tell the real difference?

[@AnteBoss]

Difference is there is no PS5 Pro exclusives at all

[@sithhunter965]

@@AnteBoss why the fuck would there be a pro exclusive game. dumbest take on the internet.

[@fsociety.dat101]

​@@sithhunter965If the specs were wildly different then it would make sense. But this is barely an upgrade at all.

[@grammeland1]

​@@sithhunter965because then there would be atleast 1 reason to but it

[@TB-su4bz]

Why are you so angry​@@sithhunter965

[@felixgarcia2184]

I find it hilarious every time when they do the side by side comparisons and it looks EXACTLY THE SAME!

[@hossbonaventure]

Sony trying to recoup losses from that live service flop with a $700 price tag. Definitely a skip.

[@putrdlairguitarist]

I think having to pay for stand and disc is ridiculous

[@Akimbo411]

Thank you Sony for giving me that final push I needed to buy a gaming PC

[@koki84ji7]

You wont regret it

[@blazenfate]

😂 Idiots bought to spend a least $1000 just for something close to a ps5 with more problems and needs.

[@DimebagWuest]

Same here, was waiting for the Pro version but this is straight robbery! Putting my funds towards a PC now.

[@huskers1278]

Should have had it anyways dude. 4090 go brrr

[@mickfitz76]

For real. I've all had every generation of the PlayStation with a digital library of 700 games. I'm dumping it for a PC.

[@stankproductions1795]

I wonder if PS5 Pro will let you play Space Marine 2 with friends... 😭😭

[@TurtleChad1]

$700 No disc drive and slightly better looking grass

[@RemakeMandra]

Not slightly pro is 3x faster than ps5 60fps fidelity mode and maybe 60fps+ performance mode the only thing that stops me from buying it is that it's digital

[@gamerforlife3946]

@@RemakeMandraDude that’s when they compared a ps4 remastered game not a recently made game lol

[@RemakeMandra]

@@gamerforlife3946 ?

[@BlackTone91]

@@gamerforlife3946 you have 2 ps5 games too

[@tiagocorreia2127]

​@@RemakeMandra3 times faster? Where did you get those numbers

[@dbzfan4evermj233]

Sony hasn’t learned from there mistakes in 2006 💀

[@bradchikenheart2]

There

[@mitsuhh]

PS3 was sold at a loss. Be thankful it didn't retail for $849

[@kyz2458]

How much was ps3 at lunch?

[@hardvegetable1598]

There is a phenomenon called inflation. Video games were bound to get a price hike eventually. One new component from a PC is more expensive. I upgraded to a 4080 earlier this year and that was a whopping $1200. $600 USD in 2006 to 2024 is almost $950. The iPhone 4s was like $299 in 2011; the newest iPhones are $900. So I truly don't understand why people are so fussy about it.

[@hardvegetable1598]

Talking inflation it was 600 then now it would be $930​@@mitsuhh

[@DoomsdayMayBeOkay]

Hate to be negative but i hope it flops hard. The absurd price without basic features like a disk drive and a freaking stand sets a bad precedent for the future.

[@ludajr91]

It will go the way of Samsung and Apple. No chargers. No headphones. Just the phone in the box lol. I.agree with you, I hope this turns into a lesson.

[@FrakBeats]

Agreed. I was gunna buy it, but this now made me lose all interest. I can’t support Sony being greedy with everything. No stand now? lol

[@tylere.8436]

Tbf, stands were never basic features on consoles, but it is indeed ridiculous to charge a cheap piece of place $30.

[@NerdRapper]

I wonder how much better the VR experience is for the new PS5 Pro. Especially considering the fact that so many more people recently purchased PlayStation VR headsets

[@zaidebtw4438]

They have brass balls for telling everyone the price point in the same frame as “vertical stand separately”

[@tomerkalish91]

I found that the most ridiculous thing about all this. Insulting even. A $700 console and you couldn't throw in a silly plastic circle?!%$@! I swear that must be an internal joke over at Sony just to see how many suckers will actually pay for the stand

[@jayeshjadhav5575]

0:26 the way kratos shows up when he mentiones ps5 price😂

[@IuryAlvesdeSouza]

😂😂😂😂

[@Jaybi_Haider]

I personally have no idea why it's soo expensive in the UK. 700 usd is about 540 pounds. How do you make it 700 pounds based on conversion rates? Like that means that I'm buying a 920 dollar console.... That makes no sense at all.

[@8imuspaul1291]

EU too, with Disk and Stand you looking at 950 Euros. So there's that. The console is pro, the price not so more like a con

[@luispinheiro8418]

The secret for those high prices is that there is no competition in Europe 😂😂😂😂😢

[@Cody.Tafoya]

Pretty sure your taxes are included in the price. Whereas in USD taxes are different state to state

[@arch0094]

@@Cody.Tafoya you’re correct there. In UK VAT is included in product prices. Still a tough sell though and we always get the short end of the stick with prices vs conversion rates - even worse since Brexit 😢

[@boxhead6177]

Sony prices competitively in the US because they have to compete against XBox who is Number 1... in every other region Sony is Number 1, so they don't care and make you pay more.

[@L82Love]

So I never comment on videos but you asked people to comment... and well here I go. I bought a ps4 Pro in 2018, added a 1Tb samsung EVO SSD too. Me & my brother have played side by side for years on his Ps5 while im on my pro. The only reason I have held off on a PS5 is for the PS5 Pro. Cuz for me, the difference between the PS5 and the P4Pro with the upgraded SSD is graphics and load time, nothing different after that and even then the base PS5 is only like 20% faster. I have first hand side by side comparison going. To me, I've waited years for this model to be released and that extra 65% faster or more memory or w/e is worth it. I will also be adding a samsung SSD with heatsink to my P5Pro. Yea its pricey, but it's worth it for me considering I have held out on buying a P5 for years til this launch. That being said, I got the base model for $760 after tax, shipping, etc on playstation direct.

[@dpc4548]

$1,200 here in Japan. No disc player. Edit: I can't see any difference in their split screens. They're the same picture.

[@AyoJayBird]

Holy fuck?! 1200$? That’s the equivalent price for you? I thought Sony was a Japan-based company and I always hear about y’all getting disproportionately screwed on prices

[@dpc4548]

@@AyoJayBird yep. Everything's made overseas and import taxes push prices through the roof. We used to have the advantage when I was a kid, but now these things are getting more and more out of reach.

[@mineyamacho]

$846 USD

[@dpc4548]

@@mineyamacho I have no idea what the exchange rate is, but we don't have inflation. Wages haven't budged since the late 80s. The price is $1,200 for us. Roughly half the average monthly wage.

[@jkorok6357]

​@@dpc4548yeah that mean the ps5 pro is the equivalent of 600$ not 1200$ due to the currency being valued less.

[@3EDALO]

Sony Tryna make us pay for Concord development, Apple's greedy fever is spreading to Sony O⁠_⁠o

[@ok_listen]

God it makes sense HAHHA

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Online only micro transaction games ruin more than we'd normally think lol.

[@LowSugars93]

I have yet to even see a big difference between ps5 and ps4 games. I’m good.

[@ludajr91]

You're not alone my guy. I bought a new TV and I was disappointed at how similar it looks. It wasn't enough to impress me.

[@F40LM]

When the PS5 is not backwards compatible the disc drive is not really worth it, I hope it can support much bigger SSD upgrades

[@bilbobagainsaoe]

They had to ZOOM IN to show barely any differences

[@qazz6209]

Differences aren't just how things look, games will render significantly faster and more MMOs that's huge.

[@Aragorn7884]

that price without a disc drive is GD crazy

[@sammack1890]

Biggest change: the price

[@LitJr]

Happy with my PS5 with a disk drive that I got for $500 😀 the pros design is dope though

[@DoomsdayMayBeOkay]

Price has no limits

[@Psychomantis30]

the features do, for that price. LMAO

[@sebastianquake8519]

This is the real tagline for Playstation

[@Ehrle6969]

It doesnt kod​@@Psychomantis30

[@shreejalk.c.4630]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@davemangamer7365]

If the PS5 pro cost $700. How much do you think the PS6 is going to be 1200 wow

[@AFAIK-l8k]

People gonna rob for em like when ps5 dropped

[@prisonmike3605]

@@AFAIK-l8kif the next gen will cost that much I don’t see those getting scalped.

[@Blvck-14]

Controller and SSD sold separately

[@davemangamer7365]

@@prisonmike3605 I think Sony are the scalpers

[@shernandez31]

​@@Blvck-14 power cable and HDMI cable sold separately as well

[@scottland906]

Normally a Gameranx video like this would be titled "10 BIGGEST Changes"..... there's not even enough changes to make a top 10 video on it. I don't know what Sony is smoking but I'll have what they're having.

[@abdiwahidm260]

Play has no limits” “Price has no limits”

[@kishona69]

My PC has been smiling for some time. Now I can hear it laughing...

[@maulicious.]

Lmao same I only recently upgraded mine too

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

Same lulz. I bet the gaming industry hates us pc lovers and one day will soon try to F us all over too. Oh wait my bad they are already doing that to us. We basically have no physical media anymore in the pc gaming world lol. Despite that lame crap though... For now? Still better than consoles in many many many MOST ways.

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

$700 for slightly better backgrounds and grass, what a bargain.

[@johnmendez9392]

$600 would’ve had me $650 for disk version but $700 without that and it doesn’t come with a vertical stand…like nah fuck that lol

[@imnotmike]

I might consider it for $700 if it had the drive. I don't care that much about the stand. I probably wouldn't have bought it at that price, because I don't think I need the improvement. But I would at least think about it. But without the drive, there's no chance I spend that much.

[@456lmao]

600 hundred was the price for the standard ps5. 500 for the digital version

[@shernandez31]

​@@456lmaono, it was 500 for the disk drive version and 400 for the digital

[@joeXjoeX]

Blame Xbox, their highest end Series X with 2tb is $599... If I'm Sony, why would I sell a 2tb PS5 Pro for the same or just $50 more?

[@Deashable]

@@joeXjoeX « blame Xbox for not saving us from greedy Sony » what the f****?

[@Miracleman249]

I think what people aren’t factoring in is the old ps5 model you would now have that you can sell. For me I agree 700 dollars isn’t enough to justify the purchase. So my friend is buying my old ps5 for 400 it’s the disc version with controllers and everything included. We worked it out to where he will get it when the pro arrives. I put that money towards my new ps5 pro. Now I’m looking at a 300 dollar ps5 pro upgrade. Much more comfortable price now and I’m happy with the upgrade. Something to consider. Much love everyone happy gaming.

[@thephilosophyminor]

0:55 the main driving factor is profit 😂

[@deiradinn]

700 system, 80 dollar disk drive, 30 dollar stand, 80 dollars for PS for a year.... you can't literally get a good PC for that price. Sony is just shit.

[@thegarydosesales5043]

Your forgetting the controller that needs to be replaced every so often because of inevitable stick drift

[@Jason-..-]

You dont need a stand

[@leeporter6849]

And yet the US can purchase all that for the same price as UK pay for the console only

[@monkeywiener]

most people do. it's giant and takes up a lot of space when it's horizontal, but the base PS5 added a stand for free.... @@Jason-..-

[@busboy262]

So Sony increases the price by 40% and gives you a little more. Very little. Sony raised the price of PS+ by 30% and offered nothing more in return. So let's all spend $700 on the Pro, spend another $60 for Astro and celebrate Sony's 30th. Yay Sony!

[@ISGAMINGFORNERDS]

Nothing you said made sense just pier cope

[@shreejalk.c.4630]

You nailed the nail deep in the coffin buddy ❤

[@EvanBagwell]

@@ISGAMINGFORNERDSThey’re being sarcastic lol

[@a.m.4654]

40%? it got raised by a 100%

[@busboy262]

@@a.m.4654 If you buy the vertical stand that they removed from the box and purchased the disc drive that they removed as a built-in option, it is getting close to 100% in USD. Not quite 100%, but it does seem like they tried pretty hard to get there.

[@keenannash2947]

I don't get all the hate, people are acting like they are discontinuing the base PS5... Just don't get it. "Pro" consoles are always unnecessary imo, the only time it kinda makes sense to buy one is if your base console breaks or something and you want to buy a new one.

[@maidoll_fei]

The reason is, if the PS5 Pro is priced at $700 USD (or $850 USD in Japan), the PS6 will probably be even more expensive, right? Also, in some regions, before the announcement of the PS5 Pro, the price of PS5 and its accessories increased significantly by 15-20%. On top of that, the decision to not included disc drive gives people the impression that Sony lacks sincerity and hints at their future business strategy.

[@PeterMilko]

2T is not enough! COD is like 1T now and GTA6 will be 1T too lol

[@MrAftermath21]

For the added storage, i might get the pro

[@majingamer6109]

Nothing is ever enough

[@michaelsandle2152]

​@@MrAftermath21 Save the money and just upgrade the SSD inside your PS5...why spend 800 for more memory when you can do the same for a fraction of the cost?

[@FromTheSkylessVoid]

@@MrAftermath21bot

[@majingamer6109]

@@michaelsandle2152 Upgraded CPU, bigger GPU, more ray tracing, more frames

[@dumoredas]

The irony of using "BIGGEST CHANGES" for a video of one of the smallest mid-generation upgrades ever

[@1_underthesun]

The real problem is the slow release cycle for games these days. I don't play on console, so I'm sure there's one or two games I'm not aware of (although I follow gaming pretty close), but more and more time is going by every day between decent game launches. Granted that's subjective...I'm sure there's someone out there who thinks Star Wars Outlaws is the game of the generation and thus counts as a quality release, but imo, even compared to the PS4 era where generational games were coming out on a pretty regular basis, the PS5 seems to be lagging way behind its predecessor.

[@Searching4Reason]

Law of diminishing return. Each "generation" will have a smaller and smaller tech jump.

[@secondchance6603]

I wonder if the port for expanding the memory is shaped slightly different so that you have to purchase a special one from Sony and can't just swap out the one you'd use in a regular PS5?

[@majingamer6109]

​@@Searching4Reason Especially if it's a PRO version. You'll see the jump between actual generations like the 6

[@spaghebbio]

Why? ​@@secondchance6603

[@seraphin01]

let's be clear: customers are responsible for the price increase. They've shown time and time again that they're ready to spend 1000++ to scalpers to get a PS5. They also shown that they're ready to pay 120$ to play a stupid game 3 days "early" or spend 60+ bucks on an horse skin all of that while spending 1300+ every year on a new version of the same phone and making the 4090 at nearly 2000 bucks the most sought after graphic card in the market being constantly out of stock.. At this point if you're a big company trying to make money, 800€ without a freaking plastic bit to keep the console upright seems like a freaking bargain price.

[@jkorok6357]

Most of the comments here isn't listen to you. But yeah scalpers selling the console for 800$ is the number 1 reason why this console cost this much.

[@ActionesSecundumFidei]

Facts

[@fsociety.dat101]

I just like the fact that most who bought the 4090 will be forking out even more money to repair the melted connectors haha

[@stewieb7531]

Well said

[@wakandascottyb903]

I’m just gonna get a PC at this point 😅😂

[@KainsAddiction]

Imagine still not having a PC 😂

[@mattyb584]

Do it, you won't regret it! Just make sure you do a lot of research first

[@sammorossi]

700 dollar PC is unfortunately a very low budget one 😕

[@gonzo3417]

@@sammorossi not if you buy used :)

[@royceb4814]

@@KainsAddictioni have one still use my ps5 more the hackers on pc really ruin the competitive and sometimes regular experience

[@SUB-IN-SUPER]

-The fact there is NO games -No disk drive (Costs 80$ SEPERATE) You can't BUY the games, you only buy a license. -Add microtransactions every month just to be able to play -$700 Sony is literally slowly becoming Apple. A stand for your monitor for one grand? Yeah, Sony is taking notes here.

[@hurtlocker9600]

What licence are u talking about buying game digitally or physically?

[@ggtmbrandonn]

Still no PS3 backwards compatibility, that’s the only reason I bought the damn thing

[@princegroove]

Bye, salty broke boy.

[@SUB-IN-SUPER]

@@hurtlocker9600 Physically.

[@hurtlocker9600]

@@SUB-IN-SUPER I meant what do u mean that when physically buying a game atleast nobody is going to snatch it from your house , unlike in digital companies like ubisoft say u can lose game anytime at their convenience. What does this license mean ?

[@SilverSaga]

0:06 Oh yess the good old reminder “ VERTICAL STAND SOLD SEPARATELY” just so we don’t get our hopes up 😂😂😂

[@SerPodrick]

$30 for a mass produced piece of plastic

[@shernandez31]

​@@SerPodrickthat probably costs them like $3 to manufacture

[@Cj2329]

I'm considering buying it, I've been waiting for it since i waited buying the regular ps5, so I'll see how it'll get! the drive missing is pretty stupid and I'll have to buy it since I've already bought a couple of games on disk from the used market that were deals... so yeah, let's see

[@Cj2329]

also we have to add that the fact that people bought ps5s at scalper prices really helped the company to raise the price, same happened with gpus!

[@bryansullivan8091]

My friend and neighbor has been looking for a decent priced ps5 for months so today i decided give him a early Christmas present.

[@yukfootoo9334]

You have to buy the disc drive separate, and they can’t even give you a $2 stand for a $700 console? No thanks, I’ll wait a few years.

[@undyingbaphomet9313]

Wake the hell up samurai, the corpos gonna suck the money out of ur pockets

[@oneofthembous7359]

just started the game. im loveing every money

[@shreejalk.c.4630]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@greenbow7888]

You'd think with the deluge of developer layoffs and studios being shut down, that prices might be more reasonable.

[@jkorok6357]

​@@greenbow7888 no it is because of that, they don't think there is enough in the gaming market to justify selling at a loss.

[@HalfBlindGaming]

This would've been the perfect time to announce a remastered Bloodborne and say it takes advantage of the new features.

[@lordaizen8004]

Wow… who knew Dana Carvey was a PS developer as well!! 👏🤯 Lmao 😂

[@c.c.milton]

When I heard the price point I said it can go eff itself. Took me 3 yrs to get a ps5 and it still working just fine.

[@LocWolf]

Diminishing Returns at its finest. Is the slogan that will define this generation of consumers.

[@jayfran9724]

Best way to describe it

[@ludajr91]

Yeah, I couldn't have said it better myself. Like why would you buy this. I mean dude, be for real. If developers aren't maxing out the capabilities of the standard ps5, what makes you think they'll do it, anytime soon, on the same but just a little beefier hardware?

[@jkorok6357]

Because there is a literal wall called quantum mechanics. Expect CPU to never improve after 2027. There will be literally no more gain to be found.

[@wwld9823]

I love how they showed 4-5 year old games to showcase their new hardware which goot minimal boosts in visual fidelity, meanwhile you can get an used xbox series S for as low as 200€ and still play current gen games at 1080p comfortably this is just insulting

[@fsociety.dat101]

Not trying to defend them, but stating that another console can get the job done at a drasticly lower resolution doesn't make any sense. I don't know what point your statement is trying to make.

[@macjabeth5073]

Personally, I'm gonna wait for reviews first to make sure reviewers don't find any blatant flaws or issues, as well as their own opinions on whether there's a real improvement here when it comes to performance and fidelity. This pricing does feel very scammy since its essentially just a PS5 with slightly improved hardware, and not a PS6. I'm glad other people are calling Sony out for it.

[@andycontreras8430]

The price of the PS4 Pro was 399 in 2016. They literally doubled the price in just 8 years it's ridiculous

[@luispinheiro8418]

I bought mine back in 2018 for 349€ 😂😂😂

[@fourthhorseman4531]

I just ran that through an inflation calculator and $399 in 2016 works out to $523 in 2024 dollars. So, yeah... we're getting squeezed here by Sony. Big time.

[@luispinheiro8418]

@@fourthhorseman4531 I till don't get it, why selling so few by overcharging the consumers while you could selling millions by selling at a more faired price 🤔

[@headshotmaster138]

@@fourthhorseman4531 You should do that for the standard PS5 and Slim.

[@BlackTone91]

Price of chips doubled too ask nvidia why 4090 is 2k when 8 years ago 1080ti was 799

[@Iball28]

I blame Apple for this. As soon as they started selling shit separately that should come in the box and people still bought it. I knew other companies would follow suit

[@NoName_x.-___-.x_0]

That's not Apple's fault then, is it? It's the morons buying it 😂

[@パンダの死体]

People should wake up and get a solid PC build for the money, where you can get game keys for less than half the price and free multiplayer. And where you have games.

[@cenciende9401]

It should be noted most of the biggest PS exclusives come to PC too at a later date, with better graphics/framerate and superior kb/m. I've been very happy playing Ghost of Tsushima etc on PC! That's in addition to Xbox exclusives, multiplats, and many many times more PC exclusives on Steam etc

[@danielmihaylov5525]

@@H4GRlDYou have never build at least a mid range PC right? Compare to PC built the PS is cheap af… Don’t spread nonsense.

[@jkorok6357]

​@@H4GRlDI think KZbin is just saving you because they know you are wrong.

[@JavierRamirez-fm2ws]

I was so ready to buy a PS5 but I wanted for the Pro to Drop I saw that $700 price and I said forget that and bought the $700 Metaquest 3 instead. I miss the days of the Early Playstation they really broke the mold of what games and consoles could do and be.

[@JasonwithaJay]

System, stand, disc drive, and taxes would cost me $882 in my state. Sony can kick rocks.

[@GodofWarChuka]

Not worth it. Especially with No Disk Drive. Waste of money.

[@NerdsEngage]

Not even Mark could look enthusiastic during the video

[@professional_cynic98]

Sony will be like “we heard you on the price… so we’re going to INCREASE it “

[@atlga40us]

Is it me or do I see no major difference between the graphics 😩😭… it’s a little faster sooooo.. I wanted the better graphics lol