TDC Podcast 12 - Hamilton Morris on the Expansive World of Drugs

Hamilton Morris is a journalist and scientific researcher known for his documentaries, particularly those in the series Hamilton's Pharmacopeia, which is available through iTunes, Google Play, Hulu, and more. He has also written a number of articles for Harpers, which can be found here: harpers.org/author/hamiltonmo...
In this episode we cover a range of topics, from sacred cacti to the US government's experiments with psychoactive chemical weapons.
Morris is also active on Twitter ( / hamiltonmorris .
Reddit discussion: / tdc_podcast_12_hamilto...
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[@3dge--runner]

This was a fantastic episode brother. Thank you for what you do

[@BongLeach]

Spotify 👍 thank you!

[@SexPun48]

I have very much enjoyed it. Thanks for all your hard work in this field, you are a good few that i consider great

[@CraynerProductions]

Can you please do a video on Parnate? Please please please. I am about to start it and I can’t find any information on it.

[@arnoldogarcia8143]

Methadone man its long due

[@yourmatetom]

Ah nice you got Hamilton! This is going to be a fascinating listen 👂

[@stickman9009]

cool to see you here :)

[@yogurt1924]

Balls

[@anvikpukiq8071]

What the hell??? Tom watches Hamilton and TDC?????

[@45chapstick-91]

@@yogurt1924 I agree!

[@moth9181]

This is one of the best interviews I’ve heard with him

[@mothman1654]

Agreed!

[@TheRealDahli]

Moth THE best

[@TheRealDahli]

Mothman y’all related?

[@moth9181]

Mothman my son...I have found you

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

Moth - 😉 Best comment I've read in a long time!

[@mbe102]

Holy crap, haven't clicked a youtube notification e-mail this fast in a LONG time.

[@TheRealDahli]

Stadium ARTs agreed man

[@pangod666]

Wow, Hamilton and TDC, great work, keep it up!

[@TheRealDahli]

pangod666 killer, right?

[@MrDrew2220]

Holy shit, am i dreaming?

[@TheRealDahli]

mista RIGHT?

[@Openmindallthetime143]

This is great

[@triple_gem_shining]

Holy dream am i shitting

[@nataliezementbeisser1492]

yes you're dreaming

[@skumm]

Hamilton Morris is the Hero of Harm Reduction

[@mortenpaskins6073]

Well and TDC

[@antifantastisch4467]

He doesn't go that much into harm reduction. Ethan Nadelman is the hero of harm reduction!

[@BushyHairedStranger]

So is smoking a drug more harmful method of administration as opposed to IV administration? Since most physicians administer drugs by way of intravenous access or IM intramuscular….

[@jeffarnett479]

Two of the most positively influential people to me having a conversation. This is absolutely beautiful..

[@bloop9042]

Joe Rogan’s podcast with Hamilton was entertaining but I didn’t come out of it feeling like a learned anything new. This was 100% more interesting and informative. Great job!

[@tomtricker792]

Rogan didn't even bother to watch a single episode of Pharmacopia. Is it that hard to do a little bit of prep work?

[@bloop9042]

Tom Tricker right? And it’s a great fucking show seems like it would be right up joes alley

[@TheRealDahli]

Proteus Forest 1000%

[@battlebro14]

If you think about it Joe Rogan doesn’t know enough about pharmacology to have a substantial conversation. Seth has a lot of knowledge on pharmacology and can bring topics which are more drug based

[@Flowerz__]

Tom Tricker that’s Jamie’s job.... sheesh joe is just supposed to look pretty and talk about wolves chickens and the clinch

[@safeandsound712]

Seth I hope you are proud of yourself, sincerely you should be. Hamilton is one of your inspirations and to be able to discuss your passion with him on a public platform is awesome. It's entertaining to see because of the content and context. You're doing great. Props to you Seth.

[@SeniorFellow78]

Bob dole is one of your inspirations

[@miltown3920]

@@SeniorFellow78 hi dad

[@guikirsch9758]

Oh my god congrats Seth!!!!

[@TheRealDahli]

Gui Kirsch what a catch, right?

[@sirbuster223]

Fantastic interview Seth. You're the perfect person to interview Hamilton Morris.

[@TheRealDahli]

IKHOMPYUTHA agreed

[@LiamsMusic78]

That's what I was thinking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@juandiegoruiz]

High quality stuff Seth. Regards from Spain

[@bf0189]

I’ve always loved to think of chemistry especially organic as the punk rock of science. It does have an edge and that’s why it’s appealing to many. Even the most mundane compounds are really interesting. Great episode so far

[@erwinschrodinger6578]

You rock buddy!

[@autumnmcclard1954]

The collab we all needed but none of us deserved

[@jayceg.9180]

I love how freely spoken Morris was on this interview. Also have been watching your content for years now this was an awesome crossover to hear your two voices on the same take.

[@Moonbear2002]

Criminally underrated podcast, great work as always Seth. I really hope to see future episodes featuring Hamilton, this has to be just about the most informative, fascinating content on KZbin today.

[@amazighi.stardust]

This is gold. Thank you both so much for this discussion, it's really a privilege to have access to the perspectives and the knowledge you've made public here.

[@mcslave3]

Collab of the century!! Amazing seth, love you and your channel, keep up the good work

[@safeandsound712]

20:45 - I have been looking for a good way to verbalize or describe this point made by Hamilton for so long. It's so easy to legitimize that psilocybin is much healthier than alcohol, but that doesn't mean you should take shrooms every weekend, just like how antibiotics are going to help you at times, you shouldn't take them Everytime you have a minor illness.

[@DIGITALVHS]

When the legends meet. Next is the ghost of Sasha, or maybe just get Anne on. Keep up the good work Seth!

[@km5405]

vice might be a hot mess, but the stuff Hamilton did I always appreciated

[@420dannor]

Hamilton Morris needs to start a podcast of his own. You're leaving money on the table buddy not only that but the public could benefit greatly from in-depth long format discussions. Possibly focusing on one drug or one group of drugs per episode.

[@maxvanoldeniel6133]

He actually has one. Look op his patreon (Hamiltonmorris) he posts them there

[@SexPun48]

Hamilton Morris and TDC together in one show!? Christmas came early this year

[@bradkrupsaw]

An excellent interview with intelligent questions by an interviewer who knows what he's talking about. A good match. Thank you!

[@MichaelSanam]

Thanks for putting out quality content this is insane thanks!

[@coleman318]

Thank you for the video. Thank you Hamilton and all the supporters of this channel. Salvia was the first “psychoactive” chemical I took besides prescribed medication from accidents. Before school down the street in my truck with friends, that feeling of being stretched, pulled backwards is very true, but I happened to go all the way the first time. Tree took on a matrix visual energy field and I remember being sucked through the truck into the tree and I remember ending up in outerspace looking at the earth with the top right quarter section missing and it was completely pixelated and multicolored. An Elf (played magic the gathering at the time, elf deck was my main deck so I find myself relatively attached to this being), basically was floating in space with me and he held out his hand and told me to follow him. I remember nodding and following the elf and getting pulled in by gravity, rocketed back into my body. First spiritual experience led me to you guessed it “Erowid” where I became very interested in all psychoactive substances and the meaning of hard and soft drugs disintegrated when I realized the difference between OxyContin up the nose is arguably more potent than street heroin a high schooler can typically come across. Same with adderall on high doses brings euphoria similar to methamphetamine (I know that there is a difference in chemical structure and that it is not a d/l isomer amphetamine salt mixture, strictly d-isomer if I have my Erowid knowledge stored in my head correctly). However I absolutely loved this podcast and I am appreciative for all the things both of you are doing to improve society.

[@samsungtelevision695]

Coleman Remington I can’t imagine starting with salvia of all things. Prohibition ftw

[@Suitswonderland]

Glad for another Hamilton video coming online, glad you got a good guest like Hamilton on!!

[@TWITTT]

Incredibly stimulating and inspiring conversation. Thanks a lot for that!

[@steratorefriends6596]

Have only heard a few podcasts from the classroom before this one, but you were the perfect counterpart to Hamilton in this sort of linguistic tennis match, compliment each other really well

[@96greon]

Awesome! This is long overdue!!

[@chrisbraddock3366]

Awe man! This is just GREAT!!! Thank you both!

[@GriffinWelch]

It's been such a pleasure to watch your channel grow. I still remember when you were the new guy on the block, and here you are today a peer to Hamilton Morris. Cheers, TDC! Here's to even bigger milestones in 2019!

[@chronicfantastic]

Excellent episode - certainly the most interesting and in-depth out of Morris's recent podcast round.

[@jakelacour]

This is my favorite of your podcasts, as well my favorite of Hamilton's interviews. Definitely saving this one to listen to again.

[@eustacecranch]

so excited for this one. good job!

[@skullservant8486]

I think I'm gonna listen to these more often in the future, this was...amazing

[@jonathanjoseph350]

Hands down the best interview yet, I've been following his work since 2015 and this one is truly the best.

[@INTOTHEFOLD]

This interview was incredible. Two people whose work I love and respect talking to each other about subject matter that I love and respect. Doesn't get much better than that 😜

[@CaliforniaFieryFoods]

😝

[@flounder14]

Amazing!! So happy to see Hamilton on here

[@jayadams9794]

What a treat !!! I've been following your channel for a long time, I'm so glad you decided to start doing podcast segments on your channel. Thank you

[@valzerna]

Thank you! Just found out about this great channel! I already knew Hamilton's work since many years, and this podcast didn't let me down, extremely interesting. I really enjoyed your conversation.

[@adamsthomas3695]

Be well guided to purchase All kind of psychedelic product ⬇️

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[@marymarymary6162]

Woooo Hooooooo!!! Hamilton Morris on TDC on Christmas Eve! My night of wrapping presents just got WAY BETTER! Merry Christmas!!!

[@purplefloyd4224]

Thank you for this interview, good questions good answers!

[@linkhood9593]

Lets give a shout out to Erowid while we're here.

[@Gsg-xh3th]

Absoloutely incredible! I really look up to both of you and aspire to be like both of you

[@jonbigeffortthegoodness7437]

Gsg uppity

[@Gsg-xh3th]

@@jonbigeffortthegoodness7437 hell yeah man. Different place now but I always have respect for Hamilton. Absolute god

[@A_Frog8273]

It's very refreshing to listen to Hamilton being interviewed by someone with a background in science. I have listened to this interview several times, thanks for the content!

[@Plasticjesus504]

It’s really refreshing to have a discussion at this level. First time listener because of my love of Hamilton, but I am now going to be a long term listener. Really great stuff guys.

[@skramzjams]

Love this channel so much. Keep up the great work Seth!

[@tubevinylguy2976]

Fantastic podcast, love Hamilton and what he does. Best I have listened to with him, you know how to ask the right questions, keep it up Seth!

[@yvannoss]

So awesome!!! Hamilton's show is so good.

[@LouiesLog]

Amazing talk with Hamilton. Thank you TDC

[@egorpanfilov]

Thank you, Seth! An amazing and very informative interview!

[@wildfireman13]

Best way to start the day. Thank you!

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thanks for listening!

[@Tymasta]

Thanks for doing this Seth and Hamilton! Great episode :D

[@raynor129]

This is hands down one of my favorite podcasts of all time.

[@redryder367]

Your channel is great and this is by far my favorite interview with someone I also find very interesting and whom I enjoy listening to!! Great job, thanks for sharing!!

[@imEmpti]

This was insanely interesting & informative, thank you TDC! Really refreshing to see (or rather hear) drugs being discussed in this manner, your channel is a godsend.

[@aidanberryman708]

This was incredibly good content.

[@grimble4564]

My dad is a pretty straight-laced medical journalist, but he wanted you to know he found this fascinating and very professional

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Great, I'm glad he liked the conversation!

[@AngelofDethMetal]

This is a beautiful podcast. Best interviewer of Hamilton I've seen yet due to your background. We actually get to dig into the weeds rather than see Hamilton trying to explain drug complexities to laymen. Love it.

[@m.infernal]

Hamilton need more exposure. He's very well versed and love listening to him. You learn a lot.

[@Barina_The_Bare]

We love your perspective Hamilton morris

[@iamup5et]

Yusssss two of my favorite people !

[@justinbays265]

Thanks you for putting alll this information! :)

[@gravitywaves2796]

How am I just now discovering this channel? Although my days of experimenting with crazy new substances or even the classic types ended quite a while ago now as real life kind of took over I still am fascinated with the type of information on this channel. Thanks for doing what you do.

[@PsychiCorey]

SO HAPPY to see this episode!!!! Good shit getting Hamilton MORRIS on the show!

[@vmtheman3347]

That’s awesome. Way to go!!!!

[@CbNHaZe]

I appreciate everything you do for the community. The pod cast are great, an make almost great arranguments, taking into consideration both side love the perspectives on both your ideas. Keep on doing what your doing seth.👍👍👍🤘🤘👌👌🤩

[@coltoncrawfordjazz]

Just discovered your channel through your phenibut video. Im a fan of Hamilton. This interview was superb! So many great topics covered.

[@alexb554]

Hell yeah, I love hamilton. Gonna be a good 2 hours

[@membersonly_wavynavy]

One of the best podcasts I have ever heard.

[@stonerman15]

Another Great Podcast! Love Hamilton’s work.

[@WolfgangGe]

Amazing interview

[@gogo311]

Fascinating podcast, thanks!

[@joshuabolin4440]

This is just wonderful. Great listen. 😀

[@ogerkiefer5248]

what a great conversation realy enjoyed it

[@SirSmokesAlot420]

I love the “S-ketamine” anecdote. I hate when people say different LSD tabs have different feels just based on the blotter. It’s placebo.

[@kevinblackandwhite8273]

Excellent discussion gentlemen.

[@4k-os]

At around 1:30:10 though I have no ketamine experience, in my mind I was thinking of my salvia experiences in that context of "getting the message", so I was very glad to hear you mention it! This has been overall a great interview, thank you.

[@imperialtutor8687]

This is was an epic podcasts, we need more educational podcasts like this.

[@drmojo5439]

Obviously, I'm very late in discovering this video, but it's great to have my two favorite sources of pharmacological information in discussion with one another. It's so important to focus on harm reduction and the reasons why certain substances have been stigmatized, the validation or lack thereof of such an action, and a realistic approach to a safe dosaging. Hamilton Morris is absolutely brilliant and exactly what we need--50 years ago.

[@jlwaddey9579]

wow! fascinating about Al Most! that is wild. this is such an amazing interview!

[@DirtyFB1]

Finaly someone asking good questions

[@fractalspace1111]

awesome podcast, really interesting conversation

[@dalegribble4357]

Fantastic content thanks for doing this

[@TzMKnight]

I had no clue you did podcasts have watched a ton of your videos. But you got Hamilton????? Thank you for this vid!!!!!

[@itw1931]

Great interview

[@joegorman1864]

I really enjoy listening to hamilton... Thankyou

[@slay3374]

Great video!

[@jaytee2314]

Awesome man im glad i found this. i grew up on erowid after my dare counselor told the class it was possible to hear colors and see sounds then got sent to iraq. It has always interested me looking into the science and reading peoples experiences. Im on a path to a degree in chemistry too and im hoping we can keep up with this insane rise of new barely tested compounds pharmaceutical and clandestine. Hopefully we can put all of these new compounds into their proper places and do some much needed research. It is amazing how far we've come though that shows and things like this are even possible

[@JacubWhite38]

Thank you

[@grunge9358]

the back story to why Methoxetamine was initially synthesized is why I think chemistry can be for good with the right motivation a interesting story and a truly incredible compound

[@dylanparr6880]

Where. Did. It. All. Gooooooooooo

[@blackbeast9268]

2 psychopharmacology gods having a beautiful, respectful and deep discussion about science, politics and human Nature. Love this fucking video, love TDC. Thanks to this channel I've been learning a lot about chemistry and pharmacology. What a lovely subject matter.

[@jamisonlowe6941]

Great podcast!

[@flowerrescue]

yes great podcast !

[@PsychiCorey]

Psilocybin causes overwhelming synchronicity to people anecdotally..

[@martinparidon9056]

This is one interesting and highly important video.

[@skrolellskrtskrt4225]

What a great podcast

[@nickmueller2248]

Amazing podcast man!