TDC Podcast 4 - Adam from PsychedSubstance on Psychedelic Harm Reduction, Philosophy & More

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thank you to all of TDC's supporters! You make this project possible. It took a while, but I'm finally just about ready to release the next drug overview. It'll go live within a couple days. As always, if you have questions, feel free to ask.

[@icarosthesia2872]

Amazing! Thank you so much for this upload guys! Really excited for more of this glorious content you've been releasing! You've got our support guys. I hope my channel's playlists really spread your videos, even if it does take a while for me to get it all together! You deserve the effort. Thank you again, both of you.

[@icarosthesia2872]

I think the whole study is more worth looking at than just this one part of it, but I definitely agree it would be great to hear someone with a good grasp on interpretation to give us the gist of it. Thanks for mentioning this!

[@TheL3gacyIV]

Seth and Adam have disagreements

[@seacracker]

Using Benzos as a safety net is super interesting and I haven't really heard about it much before- where or how did you first learn about using them?

[@seacracker]

and, about the spiritual stuff- I'm not- but sometimes I worry that I'll dose and suddenly "see the light" or whatever and become spiritual, hasn't happened yet, but did you guys worry or think your beliefs might change due to what you experience in the trip?

[@Duck-tm4bi]

2 hours? Is this heaven?

[@dingdingding4033]

Duck Ya woohoo!!!!

[@matthewsparks568]

Very well might be.

[@yourmatetom]

Great podcast

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Thanks Tom, I'm glad you liked it.

[@MrDarksachet]

daddy tom

[@AbbadonOfTheKey]

Oh shit, hey Dad

[@nathanmurray758]

Thanks

[@jevgenijsalunin9820]

I like how Adam sometimes asks Seth about something, when he's not sure.. That's cool

[@5driedgrams]

Krokodil is actually a pretty safe drug, it's desomorphine. All that skin loss on the news was because of the phosphor intoxication due to bad fabrication. [Hamilton Morris talked about this once]

[@seanjones4726]

Desomorphine was proposed to be the main product of the clandestine synthesis of krokodil, but lab replications of this method have found it to be a very complex mixture of known and novel morphinans. Its a pretty fascinating synthetic route that has some potential to spark research in novel opioids, but complex drug mixtures are never to be regarded as safe without extensive research, and you're absolutely correct that phosphor and other by-products in krokodil are responsible for its absurd toxicity.

[@CarbonatedGravy]

I see it as one of those things where krokodil is specifically the street name for the street drug, especially considering it’s named after it’s effects on the skin after regularly injecting it, so does that refer exclusively to the corrosive basement lab junk or is it a nickname for desomorphine in general? I feel like that wouldn’t be accurate, if someone were talking about pure properly synthesized desomorphine they probably wouldn’t call it krokodil or at least less likely to, where certain other nicknames like gear, speed, dope, smack etc. would retain it no matter how pure or impure it is

[@hunterflowerson4460]

Really liking these podcasts so keep them coming Seth

[@rtairsoft1]

13:53 convincing myself I had died once while I was on a LSD trip and that was actually one of the most healing experience I ever had on psychedelics. It made me have more appreciation for the rest of the world.

[@Wolfpaw754]

That could be considered a bad trip to some, shows how the experience is difference from person to person

[@b.g.5869]

I knew a dude bro type that was more of a frat boy/jock type than your typical psychonaut, and he used to do pretty high doses of acid fairly frequently. For him it was just a fun party drug, and he seemed as immune to insights as he did bad trips. It made a strong impression on me as to how much the sort of person and general mind set one has brings to a psychedelic experience.

[@MrCmon113]

Yeah it's weird, there's a bunch of normies out there, who don't know anything about psychopharmacology, ethnobotany or buddhism, but do upwards of 500ug regularly.

[@icarosthesia2872]

Super excited to listen to this podcast; I've really been enjoying listening to/watching the paths you've both chosen, they're extraordinary. These collaborations will be major breakthroughs to go down in history. This is the continuation of something huge. Thank you for all of your efforts Seth, and Adam.

[@KevNoonz]

Really enjoying TDC as a whole. This was another great addition to the catalog.

[@junothebox]

Thanks for having Adam, he's really nice and I watch both of your channels

[@conor131]

Another podcast! Yay keep up the good work look forward to the next one!

[@jeff-lk5yj]

Get "your mate tom" on the podcast!

[@keelanlarmar3390]

Bad suggestion

[@keelanlarmar3390]

@The Senate he hasn't got much to say if anything at all really

[@triple_gem_shining]

Well that's rude

[@Audible484]

So much good information. Love this channel. Thank you!

[@arthursevergnini8533]

worth every single second

[@TheDrugClassroom]

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[@mgill7854]

I hope you guys realize you are literaly saving lives keep up the giid work i will be a patron as soon as i get my new debit card

[@MrDegaldy]

drug classroom , pysched substance ,drugslab are my fav drug related channels right now. I hope you guys continue to keep the same routine yall have with releasing drug related topics or reviews.

[@deplorableamerican9451]

sisyphus Who cares?

[@rtairsoft1]

I greatly prefer avi lsd to drugslab. Drugslab has fucked up thier fact checking too many times. At least avi only sarcastically recommends u take lethal doses unlike DL

[@tyroneslyce4879]

RTAIRSOFT Avi LSD is fucking hilarious.. Not because he tries to be, but because he's literally a walking sterotype of some new-age hippie taking massive amounts of hallucinogens. Lol. I love him.

[@donaldcharles3331]

One of the best podcasts i have discovered

[@colinferris5590]

I really like the point that both of them discuss in regards to waiting until your brain has fully developed before you first try psychedelics. Seth also talks about how you should wait until you have achieved a refined maturity before you attempt to take them. I couldn't agree more! Young people have a difficult time with understanding the intensity that naturally resides in psychedelics. For example, if I were 15 years old and had an ego death I can't really say that I would be ready for such a strange and intense experience. I would probably be extremely scared during the trip which isn't what you want for your first time. In addition to these points, you guys mention that trips are unlike any other substance in that you must be prepared for what you're getting yourself into. Before I took acid I made sure that I watched both of your videos describing the pharmacology, trip reports and personal recommendations. Anyways, I just made this long ass comment so that the novices out there can be prepared. I can definitely say that thanks to my preparation and caution helped me have a fucking amazing trip the first time I tried LSD. Since that time, I have had nothing but good experiences with LSD. I've tried doses varying from about 30 micrograms all the way up to 700 mics. LSD is absolutely amazing and purely an insightful learning experience wrapped in a blanket of bliss hahaha. Anyways, sorry for the long ass comment. Thank you two so much for making these vids and informing the public about the potential of these substances!

[@MerryRose__]

After trying a good amount of psychedelics I've found that I get the most profound effects from my bad trips. They consistently put my life into perspective in a way that regular ones don't and I've never had any lasting anxiety or dissociation from one. For this reason I've purposefully used many psychedelics while in a bad set so I can get a sort of a reality check from it. Though of course I'd never recommend this for anyone else. Psychedelics in general are just very different for me. An example being that serotonergic drugs almost never give me visuals, even on higher doses

[@Dextronaut1]

Great podcast! so glad that you done psyched substance 👍

[@zippoboyshaneshank8954]

I have to make one comment about your conversation... When you started talking about bromo dragonfly, you seem to have this stance, that it could only be bad. I like what Hamilton Morris says about this, that a substance is not inherently good or bad, but rather, it's how people use them. Maybe bromo dragonfly could be found to cure cancer someday. Demonizing a drug, even a potentially harmful one, is very bad.

[@TheDrugClassroom]

I regularly defend oft-criticized substances like 25I (by extension bromo-dragonfly, likely) and I believe Hamilton and I agreed on this topic when we spoke ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3-vlGufaNOej8k ) what you were picking up on was probably just me not being clear enough about my stance. There are very few, if any, drugs I believe should outright not be used. But there are, of course, a number of drugs that require such a narrow path be walked for safe use that the general position for a mass audience should be that people be biased towards using safer substances over them.

[@calebparker9460]

1:36:15 delirants for me feel very similar to weed I didn’t get vivid hallucinations of phantom people or whatever, and I knew and understood that what was going on around me was just the effects of the drug. But with that being said the effects I got were seeing strange visual patterns, thought looping, feelings of anxiety or panic, fast heart beat, extreme thirst, strange uncomfortable sensations, and also feelings of heavy ness.

[@jessemontano7321]

Excellent. Thanks for this podcast

[@DIGITALVHS]

Love these podcasts, keep up the good work Seth

[@joshuabolin4440]

Really good stuff, as usual!

[@Bobby-qh9st]

Been following Adam for years, hero!!!

[@mgill7854]

I really enjoy when you 2 get together. Love the pidcast seth keep it up 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@matthewsparks568]

Absolutely love your content. Like, love. Also the amount of commercials you play is DOOOPPPEE

[@kevinnavarro6612]

I agree with Adam, alcohol in high doses can be deliriums and I’ve been through the same with ADHD just like Adam.

[@kaleb.metzger]

I love this podcast.

[@PaulRamen]

The intro made me think of the Waking up podcast x)

[@rble4433]

first trip I had no real idea except friends telling me it wasnt like the drugs i was used too and I would love it. I ended up in the central station of town and almost got on a train but realized that would be dumb since I started coming up. The person I was too trip with had gotten a call from her mother on her comeup (like 15 mins in) so I texted two friends and went to the city and met them. They obviously figured that could go bad but I had no real care in the world and was used to doing drugs in public, why was acid any different? We moved to a park and sat smoking in middle of town for a few hours, then I took a walk with a friend to check out the city. But yeah, set and setting are great but what really matters imo is where you are at mentally. I really wanted to die, so I was never scared of any of my psychadelic experiences which later were huge amounts of RCs. Not having a fear of death or breaking your mind is an essential part of tripping for me, but since tripping did evnentually (or just hard psychadelic, disso and ecstasy use) made me realiize life was worth living and that I belonged. Have only the last two months felt suicidal in the 8 years since then. So psychadelics saved me, but it also fucked me up doing so much and not being scared so all the trips went awesome until they didnt after a long break. I have had ok trips after the bad ones but I cant really have a good trip anymore, feels different, like I fried my brain too young. Anyways, in a few years Ill try again, Im sure it will work out. My point here is that we didnt hide indoors or plan to trip all the time, we just did and quickly realized that it was ok. Now some things are important to remember, that you are cognitively impaired or perceptually altered atleast is one. I remember once a friend punched one of my buddies in the face on acid. We calmed him down and laid down a rule of never using physical violence on psychadelics which I stick to heavily, since you probably are not able to make a judgement about such things. Also traffic, heights etc. But Its not that hard, and unless you go psychotic and start running round I doubt there will be any problems as long as you keep your sourroundings in mind and go as a group. And if you do trip outside or at a rave especially (somewhere you dont want a bad trip and cant just sit and mediate it away) bring Alprazolam. 5mgs is a perfect trip killer for an intense bad trip, just dont smoke any weed on it or it will all come back ;) Trip wont go away completely, but basically. Also it will calm your panic, which helps calm the trip and reduce visuals. Really suprised at how well it worked when I resorted to it once. But it left my trip unfinished and I was hurting for long after feeling like I had failed and stuff like that, childish, probably just cause I was 17 or so at the time.

[@jeffgorski6754]

Really great listen. Loved hearing you guys discuss McKenna! I grew up listening to him and Art Bell. Love the channel 🙌🏻

[@doisa1337]

Great podcast!

[@gstylez0107]

What a great podcast, truly excellent stuff guys.

[@butternuggets2607]

I go into every trip prepared for torture, normally the more ready i am for the worst the better the trip is

[@cysilversoul]

I have a term for this, “Brave the storm”, Power to you brother✊

[@QuaaludeCharlie]

Lord , I miss them

[@btc54723]

I love the psychedelic community but a lot of them hold some crazy woo woo beliefs. I'm so happy to have a channel like this one. Lying to yourself and holding false beliefs are the causes of societies worst outcomes.

[@fufubunnyiz1006]

I don't see any videos about the use of Gabapentin for a less brutal heroin/ opiate withdrawal. I know the scientific studies are almost non-existent, but it's an important issue, that could greatly help those wanting to quit, but are terrified of the painful symptoms. If you could address this I'd greatly appreciate it!

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Interestingly, this was an area of focus in some of the research on pregabalin (very similar to gabapentin). It looks like it could be useful in some kinds of withdrawal, so it's definitely an area to explore. At least in some of the case reports pregabalin greatly alleviated opioid withdrawal symptoms, but we don't have much research on it. Thanks for the recommendation, I'll see if there's a way for me to talk about this topic specifically and drug dependence more generally.

[@jeff-lk5yj]

The Drug Classroom end up just replacing opioid addiction with benzo addiction and some say the withdrawls from benzos are even worse Edit: just looked into it and pregablin isnt a benzo

[@lowercasehandle]

I think pregabalin is a PAM and not agonist of GABA, but regardless, they act the same, but I THINK pregabalin isn't as strong? Not sure.

[@jordanmelven]

Clonidine is a godsend for me right now going through methadone withdrawal.

[@Len_M.]

Zolfran can help.

[@ohsweatbret]

Thanks for the harm reduction talk, I’ve been really put off lately by people who brag if they’re even telling the truth that they took mda/mdma, 2-cb, 5 tabs/grams and took a 70mg bit of dmt at the peak they did all this math to figure out. That doesn’t sound fun, sit back and enjoy the ride not wait around for an alarm to go off to take your next drug. Then they get so wrecked they don’t even remember the experience.

[@HashFace253]

Thank you both for your work this and peter attias' and tim ferris' recent convo are prereqs for any new tripper

[@psychonautic9734]

Just fired up this video now and 4 minutes in and I like how you guys refer to alcohol for what it really is, "a drug" and that most people, unfortunately, just don't think of it or see it that way. UK Professor David Nutt (drug psychopharmacologist & psychiatrist) makes it clear as well, in his science lectures and in the "david nutt, lancet report" - alcohol was rated worse of a drug, than heroin in terms of overall harms and dangers. It's all in the UK report. =)

[@joshualandingham9928]

Man... I wish these 2 would've been my college roommates...!!!!

[@mercurialmagictrees]

12:20 12:30 good point about perceptual and psychological effects that are extremely variable it is important to make these distinctions

[@mercurialmagictrees]

20:30 helpfull advice I wish I heard specifically before a challanging trip , however it was important for me. it taught me a lot about the human condition. not every experience should be exciting fun and happy. sometimes fear of letting go of attachments , loneliness and terror of the unknown is fascinating and important

[@mercurialmagictrees]

27:30 there are no bad trips at all? hmmm I suppose neither true or false in my opinion because I feel part of the reasoning is due to karma or metaphysical sort of retribution for past lives

[@Gianni-hb2uf]

i love it! btw the "podcast voices" (yours and adam's) are really relaxing. stay safe :)

[@BeautifulBaloney]

I noticed you guys mentioned krokodile a couple of times. I was under the assumption that it is just desomorphine which is a relatively safe opioid.

[@TheDrugClassroom]

Yep, desomorphine doesn't concern me. Krokodil has unfortunately been highlighted as an example of some especially concerning substance, with most people seemingly missing the point that it's a prohibition-created issue.

[@dylanparr6880]

The problem with it is this Eastern European "street synthesis, using gasoline, red iodine, and codeine tablets; binders, fillers, and all. Their reaction usually doesn't complete properly and the yield is still full of gasoline/filler/iodine contaminats and impurities. Very little of the chemical cocktail reaction yields complete desomorphine.

[@benfrancois7150]

I like both channels

[@woods8523]

i took 105mg of dxm with my parents at 10:00pm they didn't know, it was my first time trying anything, even alcohol i took such a low dos because i didn't know how i'd react it was a fun time i was feeling really happy a little dizzy and just an over nice feeling. The day after i was super depressed and really wanted to just not be there i didn't feel my self almost as if i wasn't alive. the next day i felt normal again and made me think about the experience i didn't know what i should think about it, i almost want to try it again with a little higher dos but over all i think it was a good experience if you're going to take any drug make sure you have a few days to recover so you can become a your normal self again

[@iantubbs4043]

this is awesome. more podcasts :)

[@DecentraTalks]

ADHD can infact end up killing you. People with ADHD get into more car crashes, abuse more drugs and deal with impulsivity. Stimulant medication for me at least is best used daily so that you can get accustomed to the side effects. I might change my mind later on though, who knows. Great podcast, thank you guys.

[@bbs5400]

We need more people advocating for safer use of these incredible compounds. One day I'll do DMT, it's definitely on my bucket list and has been since i was about 14(23 now), but I'm in no way going to rush into it although I have access to DMT any time I want, these are not compounds to be messed around with all willy nilly. I wish younger people could see that and take precautions, but, it's very difficult to convince young people to not be reckless

[@victorjacobsen2897]

At 22:10 when Seth said that he has been asked the question: "Should i take lsd at 10 pm when my parents are asleep". This instantly reminded me about my nonexisting critical thinking skills at the age of 19. Long story short, i was in my room while my mother was sleeping in the living room which was right beside my own room (Literally 5 meters from me with a wall between us). I decided to take 5 grams of some pretty potent mushrooms. Let's just say it didnt go as expected.. 30 minutes in i was like "I can't make it through the night, i gotta wake her up and tell her this or i might commit suicide. I remember bits of the night laying on the couch, hearing her cry out "What if youre never gonna be yourself again. Worst night of my life and since I've had the utter most respect for any kind of drug, EVER. A little while after I discovered TDC and have been very fond of the thoroughly researched information that this channel provides. Thank you so much Seth!! Btw awesome podcast! A request of mine is to one day bring Dr Carl Hart to the show, though I don't know how realistic that is.

[@bergenmatthew]

Sounds like a really fun night for you both

[@burakcaner8361]

from 50:00 and on.. memory vipe and reincarnation arguments are pretty interesting.

[@LuckeGabriel]

Wow. Did DMT for the first time earlier today and now I see this. Wow.

[@LuckeGabriel]

I had been feeling fantastic for the past week or so before doing it and after the trip i'm still doing well. I got trapped in the tunnel and it was over within minutes. For me it was like a rollercoaster. It went by so fast that I didn't have any time to stop to really think about anything that was happening. I know some report not feeling right for periods of time after it, but other than having a bit of a shiver for an hour and a sore throat for the day (its rough on the chest) there wasn't much of an after effect. I really want to know whats on the other side of that tunnel though. Its so inviting and mysterious.

[@JoRosieQueen68]

Did some tropanes by smoking some Datura Stratura leaf, damn son, don't decide to mix it with tobacco of any kind and salvia, the regular officinalis one or divinorum probably too, it hit me in a very bad way but I managed to turn the trip on it's head and I feel good I did, I feel braver then before due to that.

[@JoRosieQueen68]

Delirium is scary as shit damn, but it can be harnesed into something good but it's harder then one would initially assume but yeah.

[@Psiconauta-cabalista]

It's not a fake spirit or something like that, in my opinion, it is the universe's spirit communicating through various experiences, be the experience drug induced, or a dream, or came.from meditation,deprivation tanks etc... I also think that different chemicals/methods of achieving altered states of.consciousness have each it's characteristics. Wich can be interpreted as a personality or spirit of their own. (but I think it's all one)

[@SDS153]

I've had HPPD for 20 years. Didn't even know the clinical name for it until a few years ago. I've always called it visual static coz it's very much like an untuned TV but finer grained and translucent or like the air is full of it. It's more animated the more tired I am. Only met 2 people who'v had it. One was a girl talking to her Mate in a coffee shop I was working in. Really wasn't trying to eavsdrop but she was saying she'd just been to Glasto n done acid for the 1st time and since had what sounded like HPPD and anxiety and insomnia. So I told her it was prob HPPD and said if she goes to her GP and says that n asks for valium that'd sort her out. She came back month or so later and said thanks it worked. Looking back, the funny thing is that was just something I'd read. I did believe it would help TBF, but I'd never tried it. If I woke up and my static was gone I'd really miss it. Not sure I could stand the stillness or plain white walls.

[@LA.Capone]

Very good podcast!

[@perfor5376]

Pleeeeeease get Dereck from MPMD

[@mcblahflooper94]

Cool video idea would be the drinking cultures of various countries and regions

[@goldenfox334]

i used to honestly love dmt and had a issue with redosing when i was younger(19yr) i had it though scare the absolute ever living fuck out of me and that was the last time i touched it. I gained alot of self control that day though and it did force my hand at respecting stuff of this nature alot more. sometimes no matter what you say you have to let people fuck up and fall for them to learn to not joke around with stuff that could seriously hurt them. i still do love how dmt works but im honestly still scared of it.

[@Lampreyedits]

I'm with adam for the coincidences... especially with numbers

[@Lampreyedits]

no joke

[@diablominero]

People who take multiple milligrams of LSD report it being very different from normal excessive doses. So there's probably not a hard ceiling.

[@diablominero]

I really disliked the duration of LSA. I much prefer Ayahuasca with a bit too little of the harmalas, which lasts some time but is over before it starts to feel interminable.

[@joeschultz8349]

Wow , I wish these guys was around 20+ years ago I probly wouldn't have done somethings or done them differently. Back on new years 2000 I took 5 tabs and 5 x pills at that time I didn't think that was much.

[@hihowsitgoing2867]

Idk if you’re the kind of person who just wants to get fucked up and takes acid with the justification that it’s “therapeutic”, then you’re gonna wear it out, have some bad trips on the way, but that won’t stop you so you’ll eventually start seeking DMT. And this is the first step that makes serious change possible, for some people. I had very bad trips where I (once) considered suicide to end it. I was with other people. They were tripping too, but not as hard. I’ve had other experiences, notably one with 7 grams of albino penis envy mushrooms, where I was convinced I was about to die/had just died. Maybe some people would end up hurting themselves, so I whole heartedly agree with the philosophy of harm reduction. But I feel like DMT is kinda the best thing to happen to a polysub addict apart from permanent recovery itself

[@Shupy-wy7fj]

Where's the next podcast?

[@mattb9054]

I fucking love Mdma not a fan of meth or coke or crack, love my acid and Psylicibin, Against opiates any pain pills or heroin/fentynal, not a fan of disassociatives like ketamine or pcp, and I Looove my bud 🌳❤️

[@tv-pp]

if your head explodes in a millisecond you dont die

[@joedavis4150]

... A statistic that you don't hear very often, is that only an estimated 12% of people prefer to use cannabis.

[@OtherwisePanic]

I took a microdose of psilocybin mushrooms before work once, thinking it'd give me the boost I needed, I ended up going to work mushroom stoned because my batch was a little more potent than I knew. 😂

[@matteodagnolo]

If you guys posted on steemit you'd make so much more money

[@mephoriamanson8920]

Adam sounds like a new pediatrician

[@diablominero]

Schizophrenia is a real thing brains do sometimes, but I wouldn't be shocked if there's cultural contexts where it isn't debilitating without medication.

[@PlantyKuola]

👌

[@KetamineReview1159]

59:40 cmon adam what about the artist with a pineal gland tumor who is constantly in a dmt trip like state. also this is my absolute favorite thing to tell religious people lol

[@Beanzz_20]

This guy u have on here is really full of himself....

[@1bsubsnouploads823]

How? Hes answering questions lol. Hes got a huge channel millions of subs

[@youcantseeme5489]

Ohh yesss 😉😉

[@Xagent0002X]

why has adams voice no bass?

[@TheDrugClassroom]

I believe he was using the microphone built into his headphones, so the quality was lower on his end.

[@vladuzaurus]

Acid spirit is my spiri animal

[@gregslater8336]

Watched your video with Adam. What a terrible waste of LSD. You should be ashamed of yourself for taking such a gift in such a sensory deprived setting. I would never consider consuming a hallucinagion in such a sensory deprived situation. Over here we get liquid acid and if you want to realise what this compound is capable of I suggest you return this message. If I could attach a photo of the environment that I choose to undertake these experiences I would, but you will have to contact me if you want to achieve a level that you can only dream of. Also have a mate that harvests local acacia.

[@bqfilms]

I used psychedelics when I was 16 I think, Im 19 now and I still have residual HPPD if I concentrate when Im reading.

[@lenn939]

Which substances did you use, how often did you use them and at which dose ranges?

[@Duck-tm4bi]

oaksterdam Is it bad? I've had visual snow since i can think so the impact of my pretty heavy usage of psychedelics in my later teenage years didn't really bother me at all. It actualy had more positive than negative impacts on my life. I always was a guy who only enjoyed very high doses of canabis because i'm always searching for the psychedelic effects. It was always very psychedelic for me but since my usage of serotonergic psychedelics it's even a fullblown psychedelic visualy. But i can imagine how someone who used to see the world completly clear could be annoyed or even frightened by such a change.

[@watchintelly]

May I say that I believe benzos often do not actually stop a trip. You can still be high. You'd need a big dose of benzo to knock my ass out on an acid trip that's got me woke.

[@dylanparr6880]

Atypical antipsychotics like Seroquel will shut that shit down real quick. For me anyways....sometimes doxepin or mirtazepine and zyprexa

[@kevinnavarro6612]

We need real scientific research for DMT experiences. Like hard research

[@LouiesLog]

I'd love to meet you TDC and Adam. I suffer from Social Anxiety and would love to see how I act on LCD with people I trust. I wonder if i'd be more sociable? Or maybe It might get worse? I'm 24. Maybe it's time to try it. I think people who believe in anything like Ghosts, spirits, etc are a little niave (anyone over 16 i'd say) I can let younger children off because they have not had time in life to figure out what is and isn't real. But don't they feel silly talking about them seriously over the age of 16? By all means explain logicaly how someone might have 'thought' they experienced something 'supernatural' Unfortuently most of the people who bring up the Subject of supernatural sibects often can't. I find it hard not to smile when people mention Ghosts 😁 Little dissapointed that Adam buys into the Supernatural stuff. You have just ingested a chemical. Is it not logical to assume that the chemical is the factor and that it could be making you see 'Entites'?

[@kevindifranco3494]

Merlin if you're still around I would personally say no to LSD or any other thing that strong. A safer bet would be pregabalin or gabapentin as they help with GAD and create a desire to socialize.

[@spyorgclubbord9520]

Merlin you seem a little naive acting like you are certain about anything. There are so many things all around us that you couldn’t begin to understand. Get in there and try some psychedelics they will open you up to the possibilities but I can’t say that it will help your anxieties

[@GilgameshEthics]

The reason alot of people do L in festival scenes is because they are surrounded by happy people who will help to uplift you. Whenever I"m at a festival i'm surrounded by friends, and friends of friends. Much safer than trying to conquer a trip at home on my own.

[@Duck-tm4bi]

GilgameshEthics On a low dose this might be true but when you fully loose controll over everything it's better to just lay down, concentrate on the trip and accept everything that comes to you. At least for me.

[@GilgameshEthics]

+duck Everybody is different maybe. If i'm going to possibly lose control I want my family there to help me if required. And my family is in the festival scene. So it's the safest place for alot of us to really blast off. Plus i'm talking small festivals with security who blow down with me. Not like bonaroo or nothing. On a high dose, you better at least have a sitter in the other room over. I've seen too much.

[@Duck-tm4bi]

GilgameshEthics I guess you're right. We are definetly all different. And I know for me personally that i don't want to have anybody in my room when i have a high dose of a psychedelic. I still only trip when i know that as soon as i leave the room there is someone to help me and the room is safe so i can't hurt myself at least physicly.

[@GilgameshEthics]

Duck ; Sounds like you're doing it right. Even if it's a little different than how I prefer. We all have our ways. I friends who love to go in solo too. It's a tool. How you choose to use it is up to you. And every job needs a little tweaking depending on situation. : )

[@TrippyRick]

GilgameshEthics have you ever been to ozora? I have a Little social anxiety and plan on going there sometime,alone that is, and im wondering if it would be a Good idea to take l there. Im naturally a pretty happy person, though i have struggled with depressionin the past, and have really just had bad luck with people but whenever i see videos from festivals like ozora or burning man i smile and feel like i want to be amongst them, yet im wondering if all that love would be overwhelming. Any tips or thoughts? :)

[@tv-pp]

muscaria made me feel drunk. gaba stuff i think

[@chasecarter1170]

Quentin experiment

[@jacoboutland8408]

You said hppd is cureable did you have to see a doctor or did it naturally go away?

[@Loudpack_music]

Doctors are a joke in the US. Hppd gradually fades after a couple months after you stop use with psychedelic substances

[@spyorgclubbord9520]

anit shlomo I’ve had hppd for many years some people have it for life. Even taking long breaks from all drugs didn’t do anything but I’ve really begun to love having it. It helps my meditation so much.

[@videoking1832]

@The Senate well they statistically are better in many other countries

[@A1M8E7]

👍🏻

[@stonerman15]

Idek if i can trust his word. Then posts what he did… yeah

[@inquisitor8191]

3rd

[@andrewrogissart5698]

Kush is my cologne gone off that stupid skrong

[@itzvirt]

I love how he says "when you die your consciousness ends", as if he actually knows hahaha. Has he ever been dead before?

[@b.g.5869]

We don't know for certain but there is a staggering amount of evidence indicating that consciousness is dependent upon particular brain processes. That's why we can render someone unconscious with drugs that suspend particular brain processes. We see people lose their memories and forget who their spouses, children, grandchildren, and ultimately even who they are with certain degenerative brain diseases. You take a drug that your brain treats like a neurotransmitter and your consciousness is radically altered. This all strongly suggests that our conscious experience is dependent on brain processes and cannot survive death. So all the evidence points there. For obvious reasons, most people don't want this to be true because they don't want death to be the end. But it's a motivated belief with virtually no evidence to support it whatsoever. We don't know for certain that our conscious experience ends at death, but it certainly appears to be the case.

[@cysilversoul]

One time I smoked way too much DMT and died and that’s basically what it was like, nothingness beyond nothing.

[@b.g.5869]

@@cysilversoul You most certainly didn't die. Nobody's ever died on DMT.

[@cysilversoul]

@@b.g.5869 go smoke 85mg and tell me how alive you feel.

[@b.g.5869]

@@cysilversoul I've smoked DMT a bunch of times and know exactly what it feels like. There's literally nothing dumber a living person can say than "I died" _except_ "I smoked DMT and died." Assuming you've ever even done it, if you did, you would have had a short but intense psychedelic experience. That's not what dying is.

[@JP-do5tc]

r/agedlikemilk

[@jeremiahvincent5532]

Psyched substance is the new Terence McKenna

[@ryanhayed2002]

Absolutely not.

[@b.g.5869]

The irony with Terrence McKenna is that after a really bad mushroom trip at the end of the 80s (before his peak of fame), he stopped using psychedics, something he kept to himself. Pretty hypocritical and irresponsible, considering his frequent recommendation to take mushrooms in heroic doses. It's almost like he wanted people to have a horrible experience like he had. Years after Terrence McKenna's death, his brother Dennis released an advance copy of a chapter of his forthcoming book revealing this, and talked about it in interviews as well, also pointing out that Terrence looked down upon the people that attended his lectures as being mostly freaks. After that, all hell broke loose. Terrence McKenna fans were furious, some turning against Terrence and others denying the new revelations could be true and slamming Dennis. Dennis and his publisher eventually caved, and that chapter never appeared in the version of the book that was released, and the offending interviews were taken offline. In subsequent interviews, when asked about it, Dennis only spoke about it I'm muted tones, meekly suggesting that Terrence _probably_ did trip once in a while on low doses or on pure psilocin etc.

[@UrinalUser]

Love you both