Tdi Cold Start / no start! at -20 Celsius

[@gregs_garage]

I just bought 4 new NGK glow plugs for this car. As soon as it gets colder than -15C, I'm going to do a before and after start video new vs. old glow plugs. Subscribe.

[@slipperyslope3912]

Run through the biodiesel too. Straight winter only. 👍 She'll start NP.

[@gregs_garage]

It's getting very cold here later this week. I have 4 new glow plugs ready to install. I'll be doing another video. "Before" with the old plugs. Then change the plugs, wait 24 hours, and do an "After" video. Temps will be around -20C.

[@gregs_garage]

yes I have at 100% winter diesel now. got caught with some BIO in the tank.

[@dzenanperenda9135]

Odlicno

[@hugodesaulniers2826]

@@gregs_garage have you done the new video with the ngk glowplug?

[@fisherfreeman88]

I have a 2007 passat 1.9 tdi with a 5 year old Varta battery, never had any problems starting it even in -25 Celsius. I maintain it regularly and it always starts immediately. Love it!

[@mohammadayaansaleem6681]

But how would it start at -25 Celsius’s

[@rydingwithryan493]

Cranks her for 4 seconds. “Yea idk if she gonna start boys”. Actually tho, great video I’m just joking

[@slipperyslope3912]

ALH will start to -30C and beyond without plugging in. Issue here is biodiesel. Use straight winter diesel only. Cycle glow plugs 1-3x only, after that, they're hot. Any more and you'll burn them out. If this video is common practice, a few may be toast. Heat up GP, then crank, don't stop cranking so soon! Give good, steady 10-20sec crank to get oil moving, it should catch. If not, let starter rest 30-60sec then retry. To improve no-plug cold starting, go to 0w40 oil for winter. At least fresh oil for winter. Past -20, oil thickness is the hurdle, not GP/fuel heat. That why block heaters exist, for oil not fuel. Starter sounds OK, battery could use swap. Of course, this is all for no-plug (real world) starting. Look forward to your next videos. Getting cold next week here in Manitoba also.

[@arfetherussian]

Where are you out in toba ?

[@bartekzabrowolski6425]

It can be glow plugs, fuel or something with engine oil.

[@SloanZurnToto]

If you want to go somewhere in minus 24 temps, don't use biodiesel.

[@gregs_garage]

good point Maverick. I try to keep the tank about half full when running some % biodiesel so when cold is forecast I top it up with winter diesel to dilute. Got caught this time with sudden cold temps.

[@glenn1111]

Doug Mavericks lol or any diesel...

[@pharmZey]

@@glenn1111 nah diesel is fine if the engine is good, mine starts everytime

[@AffaGraphics]

Barely cranking the TDI over bud 😂 no wonder why she won’t start lol 😂😂

[@gregs_garage]

Battery might be getting a bit weak. Costco Kirkland could be needed before spring. 89.99 Battery plus $6 chicken fingers plus $2 pizza plus $400 of random overpriced crap.

[@IvanSoldan]

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[@chancefluke7833]

@Greg's Garage reading this comment is 2023 and wow... it's 220 plus for a battery now of this size most places

[@kosturkow2873]

My Mercedes 2.5 turbo diesel starts at - 30C it's not problem for it!

[@dachronic6709]

Just warm the battery with long lights and then starter will move faster

[@RTRD4501]

We have a mk 3 golf tdi and it starts with ez in -20C

[@alankrawczyk9506]

German Quality... My dad had a golf 3 mk 1.8 Petrol from 1994-2008 without problems. A legend

[@henrikmichelsson1729]

In Finland we have electric engine heaters which you plug in a few hours before needing the car 🤠 Saves engine life and car starts in a jiffy especially in extreme cold! Siberians put aviation fuel into their cars (diesel) to avoid diesel freezing

[@gregs_garage]

This car has a VW dealer-installed oil-pan heater that works well. It was not plugged in here.

[@kimchi_dudez]

The start up chime sounds similar to my 2019 Hyundai Tucson when you leave your keys in the slot and open the door.

[@Dieselboy246]

I had a 2006 TDI VW straight piped. It was a pain in the butt to get started in the cold snowy weather. But it was good with snow tires and went any where

[@zainrashid7438]

I live in Alberta too (Calgary) The cold sucks

[@zombicreature]

1 Take the battery inside for at least 10 min, keep it close to smth slightly warm, or fill up 2-3 plastic bottles with ~50c water, take a towel put over the battery and place the bottles around, another towel over for keeping the bottles running longer and you're good to go. Wait ~ 10min then go out and try. If you got no time to wait 10 min just to try to turn it on without knowing the outcome, lets say no other car available and the bus that gets you in time to wherever you go is just around the corner, go for step 2. 2 You could open the tube from EGR use any spray but better engine starting spray "you should find it at a gas station shop", hold the tube straight towards the EGR's inside chamber and spray for ~3 seconds. Then go try to turn on the engine. Its more efficient in 2, one turns the key and the other sprays in. If you have a hard hard start maybe cause air built up in the gas line or other crap the person spraying should do it in steps while looking for ignition signs. If you spray too much before ignition there's a chance for a flame burst out of the EGR. Its good to do it from an angle just in case. Shake well the tube and make sure its gassy while spraying, if the tube is old or with low pressure making more like a water jet don't do it, fire danger !!!

[@goranromersombor5923]

I have TDI 74kw axr Dont need 2 ciclus of glowplags Max temp in our place -18

[@algypan]

My 04 bora tdi start first time, every time.... However im in the UK and the coldest we had this year was 0 degrees 🤣🤣🤣

[@yariss2372]

The only suggestion i can give you is to try and run the glow plugs atleast 5 times and crank a bit longer, cold starts are hard like this and you could ruin your glow plugs or starter by overcycling or overcranking. Good video tho :)

[@SteampunkDream]

I had to start my B4 passat I just got 3 weeks ago after sitting for 2 days, and it was -37F. I had to cycle it a few times, and it didn't have a block heater when I got it. Hooked it up to my battery reflasher to keep it charged up. Took only about 4 tries to start it. I had winterizer in it, and changed the glow plugs when I got it. It has 260k on it too.

[@tomtheraton3058]

I got one in diesel she start at -15 without mistake

[@raimovanha-simila3518]

My passat 1.9tdi winter diesel start -31 celsius after 1 plugs no problem at all

[@abyssunderground]

Cycling the glow plugs a lot will just burn them out. At low temperatures like that you need compression to get heat into the entire cylinder not just the tip of hot the glow plug. You can only do that by cranking once the glow plugs are hot. You should crank for 10 seconds then glow again only once, and repeat. Crank too little and you won't get heat into the cylinders, crank too much and the glow plugs will cool down and you'll struggle to get combustion and you'll just wear your battery out. If it still struggles to fire you either have worn or burned out glow plugs or another serious issue. You're also correct that the biodiesel may not be helping especially if it's gelled up.

[@jbmorris2893]

Just a note: pressing the accelerator while trying to start a cold (diesel) engine isn’t recommended. Nonetheless, good video.

[@gregs_garage]

thanks. I've heard all kinds of tricks and try them all. There are lots of strong opinions on diesel starting techniques.

[@DoubleM55]

On modern cars it makes no difference, it's all drive-by-wire. Accelerator pedal is just another input to the computer which decides what to do. It will just ignore your input if it could cause damage.

[@gregs_garage]

makes sense. not sure if it's true, but is seems reasonable. 50/50

[@amchoo_929]

I have a 2013 Passat Variant,it doesn't get as cold in my area,sometimes it gets to -20 but rarely.Mine has 265.000km and it starts no problem

[@jonathanvanleeuwen7788]

-40 in Sask, my 2002 Jetta tdi sat for 2 days over the weekend, it didn’t start up in time for work on Monday😂 little girl is a baby but I do have 450,000k on it and I need to fix some more parts on her

[@Cooperdonny325]

At least the Honda started :)

[@NiggaGang69]

Super Dojo stfu

[@NizarBE]

My V8 starts first time it's amazing im so proud of my car like its ¬20 celcius (-5 fharenheid) i put the key switch to ignition wait 3 seconds and then switch to start and then it starts after crancking 8 times

[@nathanielfurlong1913]

Replace your glow plug harness and glow plugs.

[@gregs_garage]

maybe. I still have this car. stay tuned for more cold starts this year. I may do a before / after glow plug change video. Not cold enough yet here.

[@menju32]

Normally even glow sparks are not really necessary to cold start an TDI engine at these temperatures. You just should fill up your car with winter diesel (ethanol amount) and it would work fine. Please don't blame the car for your mishandling. Even a Honda won't start with the wrong fuel !

[@wolfgangkohler2508]

A VW Diesel diesel will not start without glow plugs. They provide heat to the combustion chamber which aids in ignition. You have to remember that diesel does not ignite like gasoline. Diesel requires more heat created by compression of air in he combustion chamber. Also diesel ignites at a lot higher temperatures than Gasoline. Amazing how Diesel can ignite through compressing air.

[@menju32]

@@wolfgangkohler2508 It does…Direct Injection…you just have to reel it long enough. At least, if its not -20 degree, but just -10 degree.

[@ilyakuznetsov6462]

Diesel is a no-go in Russian winters for sure. Even gas engines struggle sometimes (mostly due to battery). My dad used to drive TDI Mitsubishi Pajero in Urals (it gets as low as -40 here), and we knew we're fucked if it's lower than -15. I know guys from Yakutia who have told me that they don't even cut off the diesel engine in winters on trucks, because there's no way you start it when it's -50. Their pro-tip is to use a blowtorch on a fuel tank, which is kinda safe since diesel's not so keen to ignite without high pressure. I imagine it's a damn pain to apply this tip on a regular car.

[@dariussedleckas8194]

You should use full diesel fuel and probably your battery is going bad or even glow plugs. My Škoda starts after few cranks on -30 C* and lower

[@RazvyRidegard]

I got a 2003 AVF passat(205000 ish km back then) and it started right away at -23 celsius without glow plugs.... Had a dead brake pedal relay(automatic gearbox) that made the glow plugs not work

[@MavericCanonier]

Laguna 2 2001 1.9dci 220K km. -18*C Defective spark plug driver (plugs did not heat). The engine started in the second starting cycle.

[@drewcyprus3714]

Well done for using biodiesel eco!!

[@waifuracer6516]

Either your glow plugs are dead or its the biodiesel. 1.9s start well in winter.

[@iro-huncarguy8367]

Well it's not gonna start if it turns over twice and you just stop it no wonder. Do 2 cycles and then crank it for 10 seconds. Two cycles and then 10 seconds and repeat that. This way, you don't damage your starter and the engine will most definitely start. I've seen TDI engines start at - 35°c before no problem. Yes it's a little effort but they all start

[@Ch0k0TB]

It was gonna start if the battery didnt let go (:

[@5Dale65]

Burned out glow plugs. These should start with first, maybe second crank in - 25C

[@vladmihai306]

biodiesel is probably not with aditives and in winter you really need aditives for an old diesel engine to start on such a cold day.

[@Xxx-ji1en]

Small problem with pressure in combustion chamber and not starts at all

[@the2323guy]

5:36 looks like the computer resetted, since most lights came on and the trip odometer & clock got reset

[@gandalfwiz20007]

I had a 2012 jetta with the 1.6 tdi and starts just fine at minus 25 degrees

[@nuss529]

6:22 You should drive.. a petrol

[@gregs_garage]

always have a Honda on hand for emergencies

[@fordforever6814]

Its not a brand's issue.

[@TheBene1995]

Have an '02 A4 1.9TDI, it started on the first try at -18°C with bad glow plugs!(changed by now) Have a video of it on my channel. Your biggest problem probably is the bio-diesel gelling too much.

[@5Dale65]

You should never use any biodiesel in temperatures that low! Should get a special winter diesel instead. This doesn't gell up when it's really cold. Or at least add like 1 litre of gasoline for each 10 litres of diesel. It should stop the gelling process.

[@michaeldoyle9345]

I have a 2005 Volkswagen Passat gls sedan AWD V6 automatic and a cheap battery that came with it when I got the car. None the less in cold weather which is 10 degrees Fahrenheit give or take, it takes a few cranks

[@qamilbakiovski52]

With you this passat also in summer cant start

[@ivanbiota99]

Jetta*

[@westesh]

New glow plugs, Rotella T6 5w-40 and Powerservices anti gel additive to the tank.

[@gregs_garage]

yep, I have the glow plugs. Waiting for -20 then doing a before/after new glow plug start video.

[@gasmonkey9600]

You should charge the battery. And put some warm fuel in there.

[@jacedetweiler7147]

My tdi doesnt even fire up when its 40 degrees out unless I plug it in also my glow plug light is on for maybe w seconds

[@siemensol83]

Even 10 time heating glow plugs won't help if they do not work

[@stammgaming7089]

when i would have to drive in that weather i would be considering a bigger battery in my car

[@no1radu]

Change sparks plug on this ALH TDI

[@malkris5237]

no1radu diesels dont have spark plugs

[@ilfordino-fordfiestatutori8725]

4 seconds crank, no wonder she doesn't start

[@NizarBE]

Buy a winter starter spray and spary it in you fuel ignition

[@gregs_garage]

that is a very bad idea

[@jrbanta2833]

Did anyone else notice that it reset the trip milage at the end of cranking the tdi

[@vincentmontambault217]

It would have started, you just don't know how to do it. Light the plug 2 times, and crank AND DON'T let go for at least 30 seconds. The starter in the TDI os HUGE for a reason, it can take some abuse. I have started my TDI at much lower temp than that and it started. But if you try to start it with 5 seconds crank like you will on a gaz engine, you will never succeed to start a diesel engine in winter.

[@zachzimmerman7076]

Diesel is gelled up. I would put a anti gel addvite in the tank

[@5Dale65]

Just 1 litre of gasoline for each 10 litres of diesel should do the trick and don't hurt the fuel system.

[@joshbender5870]

You don’t know how to cold start

[@gregs_garage]

why don't you teach us then, Josh?

[@3redneckcountryboy]

Gregs garage josh is right. Cycle glow plugs 3 times or more then try an repeat if it doesnt start or your just gonna kill your starter and your battery. Have a 2001 1.9 alh tdi with -30 every morning before u try to get smart lol they can be a bugger but it’ll start

[@gregs_garage]

where do you live that is -30 every morning? Siberia?

[@billykash9]

We get -30 regularly in northern Alberta but the biggest thing is try not to use the bio diesel in the winter it's just not worth it and if you do use some anti jell when you fill up good video tho 👍

[@taylorholmes9867]

@@gregs_garage prime the glow plugs at least 5-10 times before attempting to start when you haven't used the block heater nub sauce. Lrn to cold start a diesel

[@liamhutchison8303]

Great video but keep letting it tick over for 20 secs

[@kimchi_dudez]

What’s a glow plug?

[@p1yaan]

Does the interior smell of crayons?

[@gregs_garage]

what the hell are you talking about?

[@MrBillybob578]

My old mk4 1.8t smelled like crayons all 70,000 km’s I put on her lol

[@mario50o]

My Bora SDI with 500kkm at -15 started the engine without heating the glow plugs. 😂

[@michaelcallinan464]

Pink air collent works on most cars

[@matthewbowler6563]

Only people who hate thier cars keep in em out without starting them in winter 😂 😂

[@gregs_garage]

I hate all these danged carz

[@zerou24]

closes door *windowholder breaks*

[@gabifcb15]

You must to put the contact for 3 rounds. Lol...

[@pokemonmaniak660]

question why do you wait a second after the glowplug light is off?

[@zumik83]

You should wait more, 3-5 s, after the coil light shuts off, because the glowplugs still give out heat on their way to cooling down. My Golf IV, 1.9 TDI, 2002, 400.000 km +, starts @ -20°C with only one cycle, I never use more than one. At that temperature, the glowplugs will stay on for 10-15 seconds. After the light goes off, I wait that additional 3-5 s and only that fire it up. It makes 2 or 3 full cranks after which, booom, straight to 1000 rpm, of course, with proper winter diesel.

[@pokemonmaniak660]

@@zumik83 yea but you can switch off the ignition, you do waste (small amount) power to car computer. in this situation the battery wont last that long (because of the cold).

[@zumik83]

@@pokemonmaniak660 ...if you switch OFF the ignition, you will have to cycle them one more time when trying to start it and you don't want that, because they (the glow plugs) use a lot of energy. It is as simply as turning the switch ON, waiting for the coil light to go OFF, waiting another 3 seconds and fire the engine. I'm telling you, @ 400.000+ km and almost 20 years old, mine starts every time in the winter, even @ -20° C. You do need a good battery, a good starter, good glow plugs, good fuel AND good compression to achieve this.

[@Salty3439]

Niceeeee!!!

[@Moymoy-25]

@6:42 I have the same whining sounds at cold start

[@herbscheit2061]

No ya think the oils thick! SMART!

[@jansuba9516]

Buy new glow plugs... I have the same engine and I had the same problem. After replacing glow plugs it is starting immediately after one or two cycles of ignition. Your glow plugs are not glowing. After the control light of glowing turn off it stops glowing, so you should try to start immediately. And buy some aditives to diesel to prevent solidify of diesel...

[@michaelcallinan464]

Air collent helps

[@AntivistGaming]

Dude you re not supposed to press the gas pedal when starting a diesel car oh god

[@Jayarammallaya]

Get a diesel direct injection engine, not with the glow plugs

[@gregs_garage]

Will do. DDI not TDI

[@javieroargubi]

LOL what

[@wheresfuninthat]

Really? What does TDI stand for? Turbocharged Direct Injection. Is that not DIRECT ENOUGH for you curryboi?

[@ejazmuhammed9829]

01:33 in Deutschland und ich gucke mir Videos an wie ein VW GESTARTET WIRD BEI MINUS GRADE... welcome corona

[@tashveerthotha4360]

If you Wana go somewhere slowly yeah maybe 😂

[@OWRailUK]

My TDI BLUEMOTION tech starts at minus 35 degrees Celsius

[@OWRailUK]

It really starts well and its diesel

[@gasmonkey9600]

Hold the gas to the floor.

[@Jv19979]

My tdi at 10 degrees f starts fine maybe 10 sec of cranking after heating it up 2 times my 7.3 starts right up hondas are shit buy ford or toyota my f250 has over 300k miles only broke down 1 time because the fuel filter got clogged up from using diesel freeze stuff and broke black stuff loose in the tank

[@HenkKroonenburg]

Are you in Canada?

[@НеделчоДимитров-й5ъ]

0:25 freezing temp i think its mare

[@herbscheit2061]

I have 3 alhs and they all start to -30

[@gregs_garage]

do some videos about that. I've never seen one.

[@Keijotti]

haha - 40 we barely get like - 25*C

[@Techmatt167Official]

U can’t compare gas to diesel

[@GuitarMan85]

To nie wina samochodu, nie umiesz go odpalić.

[@parowkowywadca3390]

GuitarMan Dokładnie , trzeba trochę pokręcić a nie odpuszczać po 3 sekundach

[@5Dale65]

Jak zalał biodiesla na takie temperatury to co się dziwić że nie pali. Tu by się przydała zimowa ropka, ale kto wie czy tam taką mają wogole.

[@meap4325]

2liters of gasoline at a full with diesel

[@slash_mango]

Additives exists 🥱

[@nenadradovanovic6077]

Bruh, you got fuel.

[@TheJomeister]

your specific tdi is just crap, get new glow plugs and use normal diesel.

[@saidhajdarevic3831]

My astra dtci will destroy your wv in cold start 🙋‍♂️🤭

[@bwaffleman]

Boys

[@gregs_garage]

She ain’t gonna go BOYS

[@svennj71]

I am not sure you should have the privilege of even owning a VW diesel best to stick to your Honda!

[@gregs_garage]

I'm glad you're not sure

[@NiggaGang69]

bc hondas are fuckin trash

[@denvibrov7736]

Руки из жо... ы! Давно бы уже запустил бы!

[@alessvadlenka1474]

You just cant start.

[@johnward6699]

Taking forever between attempts...

[@34REDCOW34]

Petrol powa

[@Xut2zs]

Stop talking

[@raycharles8726]

Ayemegudkar

[@ranjaeduard3989]

Gas sucks anyways