TDS PVP experience: Day 1 || A disaster

[@04yujung38]

The first round you played is literally what happened to me in the first time i played

[@zombiecat264]

uh, that may have been me who did that to you-

[@jingsun5663]

@@zombiecat264or maybe it can be me-

[@MarzFromMars]

@@zombiecat264 or me

[@koltonweitekamp7623]

When I played I couldn’t upgrade or sell accelerator.

[@Anthen2]

Bro why it had been month and i still dont see any update

[@AlbertZhu-vx5uk]

youtube thinks this is bloons td battles lol

[@Green2Up-qi3cq]

Yeah click on description

[@Lazylog.]

LOL

[@Apache-ix2xu]

So many balloons

[@The-to1rr]

lol

[@whatamidoinganymorebro]

it is frfr

[@Rockman6729]

Wow elite, nice Bloons TD Battles gameplay! Edit: the joke is the game tag is btd battles

[@Combine_elite3651]

Lmao.

[@axolatol_gaming]

in btd battles you can only have 4 max units

[@Rockman6729]

​@axolatol_gaming the joke is yt thinks the gameplay is bloons td battles

[@Esbestgirl]

@@axolatol_gaming the gameplay is basically the same still

[@DemiCape]

@@EsbestgirlNot exactly, different towers = different strategy. All tower defense games is basically the same idea anyway.

[@gamingboss6221]

Elite: I will stop at 12k eco Also Elite at the end of the match: Over 20k eco 💀

[@DraDuck]

theres this sick glitch where if both players are using mercenary base, if a unit from red and a unit from blue get into eachotheres range they start treating eachother like enemies, and its so fun to see the mercenary bases sabotage eachother by killing the other's units

[@Basta192]

Is it patched?

[@DraDuck]

@@Basta192 nah but i think it might be intended ngl

[@FlagrantChirf]

it's been a while since i've seen a btd battles video, thanks for breathing life back into this game

[@Gisaboiad]

😂

[@ForAsIn4]

“If youre not using some loadout like mine, youre gonna lose” Shotgunner breaker meta (aka the backshot meta where you have no time to kill breakers):

[@ranranbo]

My honest reaction with Shotty and GP in the same loadout:

[@hernanignacio6400]

I've seen people using it and they always lost The towers that I use for pvp are: Golden Cowboy Golden Pyro Enginner Commander Elf camp

[@tea_kettle2322]

level 3 gpyro demolishes breakers if you have atleast a bit of other dps, wich you should with gcowboy otherwise you will be poor as heck

[@BarghestsFatAss]

​​@@hernanignacio6400Yeah. It's counterable if you know about it because it's about the same in effectiveness as w9 MAR. Unnless you're using a directly stronger variation with Warden,your other option is to just infinite wave 7 stall until you get 2k eco by wave 8. (And to add on to this:Randoms don't know how to use strategies properly. This was the case with most strategies piss has made.)

[@blaze10283i]

I love how i'm the only one here using mortar and gladiator

[@michikandahooman]

To be honest, props to the last opponent, he somehow survived all of that spam till the end.

[@dedtrack]

the fact that the game at the bottom is "Bloons TD Battles" is crazy LOL

[@ulgrineh1]

Ikr devs got lazy to the point of copying dead ninja kiwi game

[@Gisaboiad]

@@ulgrineh1fr tho

[@4dstrawberry-l9z42f]

@@ulgrineh1 can't have success without haters...

[@pylotheric9777]

​@@4dstrawberry-l9z42fspeak your mind 🗣️🔥

[@Glorkenborp]

​@@ulgrineh1not dead

[@GregoriahTheGoober]

dude this is the BEST bloons TD battles gameplay keep it up man!

[@wackywolf1408]

The pvp mode is actually kinda good and its also fun but it can be a lot better

[@Meowsclestheswole]

the amount of times i’ve died to enemies randomly spawning very far along the track infuriates me

[@OverAverage.]

Breakers and necro summons are broken.

[@thelastpixel6103]

They should make it progress difficulties or be intermediate instead of easy mode

[@AdmiralFluffypants]

Well it’s public testing for a reason

[@crazybolot]

@@Meowsclestheswole fr the enemy's breakers just start spawning on ur track

[@fivestar3452]

You CAN send enemies on mobile. I’m not sure, but I think it was like that on release. Your opponent probably didn’t know how to change menus.

[@LeonidesEzekiel]

Yeah I also realized this when I tried to open the consumables it opened the enemy spawner thing instead

[@Beans-tg9nx]

Cool tip it’s better to not send zombies since they might have golden cowboy but if not spam zombies

[@DemiCape]

Yeah, when I was against golden cowboy users, only time I send is when I know that they may be overwhelmed, if they are not, then I will stop, I use farm so my economy is not being hurt, that bad. Just has to balance farming and defending.

[@megamoondude01]

@@DemiCape try sending hiddens since most cowboys are only spamming level 2's and cant see them

[@TheFriok]

Nice Bloons TDS Battles gameplay. Glad to see someone remembers this game. Love you Elite!

[@ryanross8816]

Literally any crowd control in pvp is must have. Haven't seen anyone who wasn't spamming zombies.

[@abnormalexistence998]

this was the best bloons td vid i ever seen!

[@user-LK4gaming2600]

Nice Vid elite love your channel and vids been subbed for 2 years great job

[@IIISPQRIII.]

As an OG PVP player with 129 triumphs, I remember when the best tower was the sniper

[@hagollow]

Or was it?

[@RyanzhCOD]

If you could look in chat, you can clearly tell the happiness that he is feeling to see a KZbinr lol 3:35

[@WildEradicator]

This is the Best Bloons TD Battles video i ever seen!!!

[@newhorizon4470]

Tip: spam shotgunners to prevent slow spammer. If they dont bring shotgunner, Just spam slow at wave 4.

[@Name-kp2gt]

1:27 My loadout was scout, sniper, demo, and soldier and I am currently on a 11 win streak without ever losing once. I faced many players over lv 100. How I won was I used my BTD Battles knowledge and balenced eco and defending along with memorizing the waves. The towers help make everything way easier but you can still play as a low level player like my alt.

[@NoobPix3l]

Yeah most opponent i faced just crumbles from either camo or lack of crowd control. I have a feeling most people dont know how the eco works because they almost never send enemies. I guess thats kinda just what happens when most of the players only play using strats and never bothered to learn what towers are good for.

[@OverAverage.]

I don’t send sense they either leave or die. Also golden cowboy makes me enough money.

[@Gremlin_bryson.]

can i compete with you

[@Name-kp2gt]

Me personally, I dont like G cowboy. Costly compared to shotty, glad, and even demo. No aoe meaning unit stacking (slow spawn then normal, then quick so they stack together and are stronger,) can work. And eco makes more money and it can be hard to defend with G cowboy, and send to apply pressure and for eco. It's possible (to semi consistently do you may need MULTIPLE golden towers), but I find it harder and more unreliable then other early aoe towers and ecoing. Also I haven't used G cowboy much in pvp, mainly just seen.

[@Natalia_Dubinina]

Wdym demo and soldier? Please tell me you arent a bot and just joking..

[@austinzhou7628]

tbh the main problem is that the devs treated pvp mode like btd battles. but normal zombies are like 5x more threatning bc most towers have no pierce and normal zombies have 4 hp instead of 1

[@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNa]

Most base towers in TDs do more damage than base towers in btd but yeah you are forced to use piercing towers or explosives

[@vunshsharma1817]

BTD battles does it well because almost all of their towers can pop multiple bloons with pierce, but TDS just copied the idea of sending enemies for eco and forgot that enemies don’t have 1 hp or any towers have piercing.

[@DF_boi]

W content can’t wait for the next video

[@stefanbernard4430]

Random player: ah yes time to have fun His opponent:

[@3days_left]

I hope they add alot more waves and remove all the bugs. Also make eco better than farming. Also its really easy to tie since stuff like pyro will just kill everything.

[@legoclone5501]

Why would they add more waves when they would make eco better than farming 💀

[@Wifa_Iguanana]

My personal strat is - g pyro, commander, cowboy, warden, and medic. Step 1 - Do nothing (no eco) until you can get a g pyro at the end of the map. Step 2 - Eco until round 6. Step 3 - Spam lvl 1 wardens on strong at the first loop. This will take out the normal boss. (Pyro will handle if it leaks.) Step 4 - Eco until 1.25k eco. Step 5 - Spam lvl 2 g cowboy until all 12. Step 6 - Get a max level g pyro at the first loop. (Do not get it at the front as it will make cowboy earn no money. This will make it so that almost nothing will leak as the over time damage is 320. Step 7 - Get a level 2 commander in a good spot and use it if needed. Step 8 - Max a few g cowboys. Step 9 - Get all of your wardens to lvl 3, this will be an insane single target damage. Step 10 - Spam medics if you do not have the life advantage. If you are a lot of lives down, which should not be the case, get them early.(This will get you the life advantage.) Step 11 - Max all g cowboys. Step 12 - Spam max wardens and get 3 commanders and "chain" commanders.

[@Warfate]

At step 4 u eco at wave 7 right till 1.25k?

[@Wifa_Iguanana]

@@Warfate if you got your wardens, yes you should eco. That's what I do at least.

[@Wifa_Iguanana]

@@Warfate By the way, I do not know if this is true, however, I think that hidden eco is the best. Correct me if i'm wrong.

[@OnesmolToe]

gotta love Bloons TD Battles. A classic on the elite channel. Definitely not a misconception by youtube.

[@mgjma9869]

Based on the 20ish games I had today, here's the big issues I have: 1. Splash/Pierce towers are too overpowered here - Especially gold Pyro and Gladiator are absolutely horrendously broken in this; it's a death sentence for whoever doesn't have either of them and goes against someone who does 2. Infinite timer at normal/slow boss introductions - The logical thing to do is eco stall out forever; this has to be changed 3. Ending at Wave 25 - A bit too early(we don't get to use tank); perhaps wave 40 or even 50 would be better 4. Bug: Breakers spawning weirdly - It is enough to end yourself due to the blue breakers spawning out of nowhere 5. Bug: sometimes, when you press a spawning button, the game tells you to 'wait for 1 second' even though the timer is already over TLDR: Badly balanced BTDB lol (To be fair, this is a pvp TEST and most probably by no means polished)

[@AudioSilenceTeamDLZ]

Bro love the videos! I just got an Elite Accelerator skin today it's awesome! 😎

[@JOSELREYNA]

Same the skin looks so cool!

[@5uspicious_Person]

How to win PVP mode without hurting each other: Step 1: Equip Regular Cowboy, Pyromancer, & DJ. You'll have to tank if you use golden cowboy, which means you lose. If both of you equip pyromancer, you can just spam normals & increase income without hurting each other. DJ just makes things easier. Step 2: Get down 4 level 2 regular cowboys. Step 3: Upgrade 2 cowboys to level 3. Step 4: Spam level 2 cowboys until you reach the placement limit. Step 5: Place a pyromancer at the start. Now start spamming normals for money. Step 6: Get a level 3 DJ. Step 7: Upgrade cowboys to level 3, then to level 4.

[@Greggorto]

BTD Battles 3 is looking pretty cool

[@sickothem5869]

W BTD6 video Elite

[@winston7415]

This mode is exactly like bud battles, I understand why KZbin would think that

[@LoloIsNothere]

biggest tip ever: shotgunner also works on PvP to clean the enemy spam from ur opponent

[@Chocolate_cooki3]

one thing that would fix the mode a bit (you should be familiar with this one): sending stronger enemies dont give much/decrease your eco. this was a thing in btd battles 1 and it made spamming the late game stuff really an offensive option instead of an eco option

[@TheNoName_]

existing (pvp) bugs: game ends at wave 25 and makes both teams lose breakers you spawn that break will create breaker2s on your side farm doesnt give money sometimes

[@zionutuaridavalosflores8593]

I like PvP, If the test is so Fun, the real PvP relase Will be fire 🔥🔥🔥

[@Leonardo-b4z1m]

That's me :D 3:15

[@stickey3476]

The thing is yes, gold cowboy and gold pyro are beyond busted in this. 2 gold pyros defend infinite breakers and slow bosses, and cowboy gives so much cash that you can buy the pyros early. But here's the thing, there's no reward for winning. You COULD use super op towers, but why not just CHOOSE to use towers with actual weaknesses? It isn't like you're missing out in anytkng for losing... I will say, if i was to balance them, i'd make pyro have a pierce limit, and cowboy get the bloon trap treatment. In battles 2, bloon trap was nerfed so that it can't make money off of bloons sent by your opponent, only the naturally spawned bloons. I think cowboy could get the same treatment.

[@Human0987]

Tbh the First Targeting Automaticaly Gets The Unburned Enemy's and Gold Cowboy doesn't have a Good Dps TO counter The Super Big Hordes

[@stickey3476]

@@Human0987 not anymore, but it did 3 months ago

[@NormalizeCommonSense]

this pvp mode is looking good for a testing phase, sure it have some of its questionable things but it can be improved and im looking forward to this mode

[@danielhenko6961]

I always love sending a few zombies early, then that’ll bait them to send lots more. So my cowboy gets lots of shots

[@ADuck914]

never thought i'd see the day where it'd come back -me and my 34 wins from og pvp

[@Alpha-1_General]

You should play the new TDX Update : Endless mode Golden towers XWM Turret

[@Heheha329]

I cant wait for it to be solved like tower battles pvp.

[@DanConaty1]

tip: don’t bring cowboy for pvp often, normally use engineer, golden soldier, pyromancer, shotgunner, and maybe gold scout.

[@sergzoffical]

UserEEE wit another banger

[@MichaelChen-b6d]

I found a good early start with a lvl 1 shotgunner then spam normals. You wont struggle with cash so much that you have to bring g cowboy. The biggest threats are the bolts and hidden bosses imo.

[@johnnypearson3003]

The PTSD it’s all coming back because you said the word it pains me to say it but e..c..o ahhhh please don’t come back reeee anything but the ceramic Rush

[@astraljava8500]

BOO! REGEN CAMO RAINBOWS

[@CorruptedDevv]

funfact : u can give buffs with support towers (dj / commander) if u place it in the middle.

[@wok6420]

strategically he could stop the eco for a minute in his last match so that the other guys grenadiers would walk into the spawn and dissapear, cuz those things were carrying so hard

[@BeeboGaming27]

yo elite. i played tons of pvp and i've made a really good loadout Brawler, GPyro, GCrook, Commander. it uses only 4 towers but u leak minimally even while ecoing and ur able to defend 99% of rushes

[@galia7x3x4x]

shotgunner, regular crook boss, commander, i won 14 games in a row only using these three towers, i still havent lost a single game of pvp mode. Get 2 level 2 shotgunners by wave 7 (at the first 4 way path), then a level 2 crook (in the circle, making sure its far back enough so that it can see the entire roundabout and you can place down another shotgunner at the 4 way path), get two more level 2 shotgunners, get the crook to level 3, get a level 1 commander (this will be around wave 14ish), spam bolts on wave 15 if the survive up to that point. No matter what they send you, until wave 15 you will be able to defend it, ive been rushed by every single enemy at this point and survived with zero leakage, and the more things they send means the more time for you to get the economy money every 30 seconds. (this strat doesnt require ecoing yet i recommend it if they cant defend your eco zombies) just under half of my games ended before or on the round of the first boss via rushing hiddens or them not being able to defend my eco normal zombies. And im only level 36, you can probably improve this further with golden pyro instead of crook boss, or golden crook boss, or golden pyro for commander (being placed earlier than the crook boss)

[@Auiol]

8:20 when you rejoin the game, the game bugs out and you’re not able to send zombies to your opponents

[@amystolzer7701]

yes that's what happened to me

[@justaguy4575]

I love the fact that it has eco, makes it ACTUALLY FUN unlike *cough* *cough* Tower Battles pvp

[@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNa]

The idea of eco was completely stolen from btd battles, which is definitely the superior TD PvP game as the players there actually know what eco is and how to adapt since they don't follow brainless strats

[@justaguy4575]

@@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNa yeah, everything from every roblox td game was somewhat stolen from btd

[@SweetNSour_Candy]

Video about: Roblox KZbin: Yeah thats Bloons TD Battles right there

[@Catgaming55567]

Wait it isnt bloons td battles

[@shade4048]

I mean, the pvp mode is basically a watered down version of BTD battles, so maybe that’s why

[@CallytheCalicoCat]

Another good strat I found (I don't have golden cowboy) was g soldier. Somebody spent at least 3/4 of their money sending and 4 soldiers were able to completely decimate them and I ended up winning without sending a single thing lol

[@CLPP659]

Elite i got an interesing interacion. If rifleman lvl 2 is close to the enemy path, he can shot enemy units like crook boss goons

[@CLPP659]

Its true, test it while open testing

[@justinmagtagnob117]

One thing is that when you kill the final breaker, they respawn out of nowhere in the path and just go into your base like trolls.

[@EpikNub_22]

The only pvp round I played I've overwhelmed my enemy with infinite necros 😭💀

[@VoidshadeZero]

This gamemode has a very prominent meta, get some aoe dmg like pyro, spam enemies, boom, your opponent has to defend.

[@CBro-od1vf]

lets just all appreciate all the effort mrbreast puts into his videos

[@ranick0622]

Mr who??

[@mechaniccccc]

Elite, don't think we forgot about Ribs 🥶🥶

[@melvinthendra2254]

Wdym

[@oko_045]

Jester has the potential to be the best tower in this mode. It’s an early crowd control tower that can be taken into late game with it’s poison bombs.

[@KobraArab]

nerf:

[@czarnaanecia6119]

Nerf

[@jayjayjonny5043]

pvp mode should be like old fallen mode, where you had to fight the grave digger at a certain wave, molten boss at another, the forgettable boss, and finally fallen king. At least, I think that's how it used to be. My memory sucks.

[@iCanOnlyHave30CharactersInMyNa]

Isn't that hardcore mode?

[@Claymat1on]

The moment I saw eco and sending guys I was like "What in the name of Bloons TD battles?" And then I read the description and I'm like yep, I agree

[@EverettAmrhein]

They should make a limit to how many enemies you can spawn in each wave, preventing eco spam/endless mode

[@ControllerGuyThatMakesContent]

Great Btdb content 👍

[@themadb0b858]

Wow this TD battles update looks fire

[@boiled_potato6359]

Hey elite quick question do you have community mini gunner skin?

[@Warcraftontop]

one time i played with my friend and i started spamming necromancers at wave 17

[@Gray0101]

the man behind the slaughter strategy

[@666LegionaryRun]

Jester's really good defense Rather than using G cowboy for early, use it for mid game it will be a lot better, you won't leak that much if you use jester

[@Warfate]

I summarized everything and my loadout is gladiator dj commander cowboy (normal) and dps tower (i use either executioner or mortar though) at wave 7 u will live even if they spam hiddens , the whole plan is to stall at wave 7 infinitely until u get 1k cash eco bonus. Also while getting lvl 2 cowboys to 3 while doing so. 2 gladiator lvl 2 and 2 lvl 3 cowboy is enough to deal with hidden spam. Just forever stall jntil u get everything maxed lvl if u have the patience.

[@panpangaming4828]

My loadout is Gladiator, gcowboy, accel, dj, and farm

[@G4leen]

Nice tower battles gameplay,

[@khoshnurkallol2716]

good btd battles vid

[@BlazeBurn-pd1lp]

Its nice pvp is back

[@racsertive]

the second guy said "AM STILL STANDING"

[@ThunderBorb]

The problems with new test run Eco is unbalanced Too little towers do to little splash to counted sending No point for late game towers as it ends to early Bugs(which is expected as it is a test run) Hiddens can be sent to early like w 7 the only tower that can reasonable deal with a hidden rush that early is pyro

[@jericho-roblox4966]

Economy in this pvp mode is a bit like investment. you put in money for something and that money could be a lot more than what you spent. btw same loadout when I did it first

[@wifi_masterpiece]

they are defenlitly adddign more maps, and fixing the red thing on your screen and might add an aut o send or an ability to turn off the red text that blocks ur screen when u spam it

[@esdrakth]

I played it with my friend, at the end of the wave i had more hp but we both won?? so uhh, good job tds!

[@trickygamer555]

There's so much bugs in it lol Any enemy summoned from enemies spawns on both sides, some waves can be made infinite, etc

[@ThuTran-pt8bj]

Oh I remember your old vid of pvp mode lol the one with noob and admins

[@Ac1ivity]

If your gonna go with a good loadout, have a tower that can have HD early game since if all your towers don't have HD yet and the enemy sends a hidden rush, your basically dead

[@poofyfox6751]

Elite, i reccomend using gladiator as it has very cheap splash defense for early waves

[@hagollow]

gladiator mid

[@Imsorrybutdidntask]

​​@@hagollowUsed to be great

[@poofyfox6751]

what other tower can fully defend these early rushes for $600

[@hagollow]

@@poofyfox6751 Shotgunner is better, G. Scout is good, G. Pyro is good just tank a little and the best way to defend is to enemy spam them first

[@poofyfox6751]

@@hagollow Thanks i forgot they buffed shotgunner

[@hgplayerpro0245]

It seems like they need make it bit balance a bit either ITS different ability attribute + attribute between PVP and AI Mode or make the same attribute and ability attribute but change a bit between PVP and AI Mode The reason Is, just look how spammable the zombie sending ( ZS ) Its either add Cooldown or nerf a bit ( lower attribute cos sometimes for US as player sometimes think nerf mean up the enemy attribute) or make other tower advantage for early and mid for not leaking to much or also early But also since ITS has no rank ITS should be not always the same level or not also to lower like Matchmaking Level : 1 - 19 = below 30 20 - 49 = below 75 50 - 69 = below 100 70~ = any higher level

[@myvalekcz6656]

You can also send out a tank on wave 26. But the game ends with a grave digger on wave 25

[@dps_playz173]

Bloons Td battles gameplay was so cool!

[@Winpportall]

Wait... how do you play PVP gamemode? is it only accessible to testers?

[@twisted_woof]

i feel they can make there be chosen modifiers from both players which can decide together and then also certain versions of difficulty for normals wave but inturn the winner get more money same with modifiers

[@myvalekcz6656]

The BEST way to increse eco in early game is just to spam normals they are cheap and increase the eco by quite a lot

[@ramenslug1383]

Either: Give more starting money or make the spawns a little more expensive

[@Musty12345]

My boi I just got ur accel skin :D

[@X_Killer7]

The biggest problem i have with pvp is that it's usually very easy to win.Most of the players get rekt by me simply spamming normals.Not to mention the fact that im forced to use pyro all the time for anti send. So you only have 4 slots to work with. I get it this is testing phase so it makes sense that this is terrible.But i think that they were like "Hey btd battles sending mechanics were good so lets copy the whole sending mechanic. The main reason why btd battles 1 or 2 sending mechanics was not broken is due to almost every unit that can pierce through balloons.Tds only has a few aoe units.Not to mention most of the aoe towers dont have early hidden detection. So pyro or glad is 100% the better option.

[@X_Killer7]

Pyro is too expensive to brought in the early game.So the defender won't be able to buy him in time before the zombies will reach through the base. Glad will be the best option although he is exclusive.

[@crimson1265]

Formula for who wins pvp mode: Did they get lucky and receive golden cowboy from the golden crate? If they did and the enemy did not, they automatically win.

[@mikaelplayz]

Woah didnt know you played BTD Battles

[@mega7979]

the breakers spawning stuff on your side is intentional (i think) its supposed to add a risk/reward gameplay style keyword **supposed**

[@aelwen1914]

The problem with pvp is that, you don't even need to place towers. You can just spam abnormal wave 1 and if your enemy does not start with x2 shotgunners or gladiators then they basically just lost the game. You can cheese really easily rn. I'd say increasing early game enemy spawn prices can help solve that issue. By right no game should last 1 min long on a td pvp game 💀