"Teachers are GROOMERS, give them GUNS!" - Crazy Conservative Debate

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Hunter Avallone

Hunter Avallone

Күн бұрын

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@road_chad3669
@road_chad3669 2 жыл бұрын
hunter:*compares being mexican and gay* guy: "UMMmm thats a false comparison" guy:*proceeds to compare gay people to smokers*
@clareb4563
@clareb4563 Жыл бұрын
careful, that meme format is “bad faith”
@yoredeerleader
@yoredeerleader 2 жыл бұрын
“Yeah they exist, I wish they didn’t exist.” Is definitionally Homophobia. So don’t say you’re not afraid of gays so you can’t be homophobic. You’re terrified AF of us.
@NolenGYT
@NolenGYT 2 жыл бұрын
Thats not what phobia even refers to in terms of isms. In a scientific context, a phobia refers to a repulsion, as in the opposite of an attraction, which would be referred to as philic. Ex: Hydrophilic substances that attract water. Ex 2: Hydrophobic coating can be put around water to create an isolated droplet that physically cannot sustain interaction with other droplets. Next time someone makes that stupid talking point, let them know that they have no fucking clue what they’re saying on multiple levels.
@yoredeerleader
@yoredeerleader 2 жыл бұрын
@@NolenGYT cry mo fo. You will justify your fear in any way you can. You’re a snowflake who is terrified of everything that’s why you’re a fascist. Fascists are the biggest snowflakes of all.
@yoredeerleader
@yoredeerleader 2 жыл бұрын
@@Defcon_J aversion is fear. Great. You’ve found a synonym. Bravo.
@NolenGYT
@NolenGYT 2 жыл бұрын
@@Defcon_J Fax no copy
@keys5595
@keys5595 2 жыл бұрын
@@yoredeerleader aversion is definitely not just “fear” “a strong dislike or disinclination.” (Aversion) I can have a strong aversion to apples that doesn’t necessarily mean I’m scared of them or fear them.
@Polidoot
@Polidoot 2 жыл бұрын
It's not an institution, it's not social media, its not school pushing an agenda. I grew up in a christian household at a time where tik tok didn't exist, my parents limited what I would watch once I got a tablet when I was in 9th grade, if any tv show or movie depicted anyone who was queer they wouldn't watch it and would teach. I was taught that being queer was a sin and it was immoral. I was never happy with my sex, I always liked feminine things, clothes, makeup and felt envy for how women's bodies develop. I wanted that and I hated myself for it. Spent till I was 19 doing everything and anything to change until I begun to figure out why I hated myself for having a gender that didn't align with my sex, why I held my religious beliefs and why my political opinions were how they were. Turned out I didn't have a good reason to believe what I believed. I now accept myself as being trans and other queer people. And have moved to be more left leaning in my beliefs. People who are trans, gay, bisexual or lesbian are or were someone's child at some point. The child of someone who maybe did all they could to raise their sons to be a cisgendered straight person that dislikes homosexuality. This isn't something you can change, something abnormal. It is simply who we are nothing wrong with that. Queer people exist, people need to know they exist and that there is nothing wrong with being queer. That's it.
@Am3lia77
@Am3lia77 2 жыл бұрын
You go girl! 100%
@SB-iy9vn
@SB-iy9vn 2 жыл бұрын
Inncorrect There minds were molded into thinking that they are lgbt No one is born lgbt And it is a choice to follow that sex cult Denying makes it stronger
@yacobo4397
@yacobo4397 2 жыл бұрын
This dudes entire argument is "I've made up a guy and got mad at them"
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
Are the Straw People in the room with us?
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@morgancody6752 please, don't exclude the Staw Enbies
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, that's par for the course.
@punity320
@punity320 2 жыл бұрын
My man says hes mexican, please explain to me how a quinceanera is not grooming. Please using your logic it is and should be done with. I personally think that celebrating a girls 15th birthday is perfectly fine and the celebration should be joyus. However you cannot deny that its purpose is to celebrate the transition into " womanhood " which again using his logic is grooming.
@kap1618
@kap1618 2 жыл бұрын
People who say "Let them be kids," don't remember what being a kid was like. At 10 I knew I liked girls. Don't see why gay people are held to a much higher standard. Kids have little crushes all the time.
@TomTom-sm7il
@TomTom-sm7il 2 жыл бұрын
They remember. They just don't care about us. To them, our experiences don't count.
@frostyfrenchtoast
@frostyfrenchtoast 2 жыл бұрын
It also implies kids can’t (or shouldn’t) process more complex ideas and thought lmao, children are intelligent
@Nerobyrne
@Nerobyrne 2 жыл бұрын
@@frostyfrenchtoast they're mad because the average 12yo is smarter than them 🤣
@BenYork-UBY
@BenYork-UBY 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was in primary school, I think I was 8 or 9, I really liked this one girl in particular. Defo had a crush on her. And I already understood by then that boys get with girls and make families, according to my parents. So I thought that's what it must be. Must have been those heterosexual groomers trying to turn me straight
@OneEyeShadow
@OneEyeShadow 2 жыл бұрын
@@BenYork-UBY Those are rookie numbers, I had my first sandbox crush at like 4 or 5 before even entering elementary school.
@mobmaniac
@mobmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't hate gay people, I just don't want children being groomed into woke ideology" "There's nothing inherently wrong with teaching kids to be straight, because (unlike being gay) being straight is good and normal" EVERY.TIME.
@ShiftylittleDemon
@ShiftylittleDemon 2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious seeing him try to back track the moment he's confronted on his 'gay bad' viewpoint He knows the moment he messed up and that he can't win it so he's trying to play buddy buddy and hope Hunter will forget that comment "No no, let's not address my homophobia, just focus on what we were agreeing on so I can pretend my views are justified."
@dittery
@dittery 2 жыл бұрын
who drew your pfp
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
All that moment needed was “and at this moment he knew… he fu&@ed up!
@ShiftylittleDemon
@ShiftylittleDemon 2 жыл бұрын
@@dittery I drew it myself It's pretty old tho
@celesteworldbuilding
@celesteworldbuilding Жыл бұрын
@@deviouskris3012 Loved this comment too much
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 Жыл бұрын
@@celesteworldbuilding Nope. Just a good eye for what could have been an easy tiktok short.
@misterjoey3384
@misterjoey3384 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a broke working class boy but I want to throw some bucks at Hunter's Patreon just for subjecting himself to this pain. We're sadists.
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
And masochists
@misterjoey3384
@misterjoey3384 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidwooden3878 hunter is the alpha masochist. Or sigma. Whichever one prefers.
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterjoey3384 he is the Alpha and the Omega Masochist Sadist
@alexpinkston8095
@alexpinkston8095 2 жыл бұрын
Save your money, dude. Throw some cash his way when you're better off.
@neinja66469
@neinja66469 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpinkston8095 +10 points for well-meaning financial advice
@dvoid665
@dvoid665 2 жыл бұрын
This conversation should have started with Hunter asking point blank for an example of appropiate LGBT education because if they think it's impossible to have that then there's no point to this conversation.
@BlitzkriegOmega
@BlitzkriegOmega 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to defeat these sorts of bad-faith debates is to have the opponent defeat itself. Bait them into saying the quiet part out loud. When a Homophobe self-admits, their entire argument is now void and null, and nothing they said before or during matters because the only thing they have left is Slurs.
@zacclark8444
@zacclark8444 2 жыл бұрын
It’s infuriating that this guy refused to substantiate why gays are bad. His logic would run to that point and then he refused to ever touch on something that would show what he really felt.
@Am3lia77
@Am3lia77 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I understand why he didn’t explain it in full detail and i’m glad because this clip would have been 3 hours longer and we would hear the same old stupid arguments all homophobes spout.
@unclescipio3136
@unclescipio3136 2 жыл бұрын
All conservative arguments in a nutshell: "This one time, at band camp..."
@reet7060
@reet7060 2 жыл бұрын
One minute they hate teachers and they can’t be trusted to even speak to their kids. But now they can be their kids’ bouncers?
@jackthomas6952
@jackthomas6952 2 жыл бұрын
So A gay teacher who carry’s off campus shouldn’t be allowed to carry on school grounds because he or she might be a groomer? What does one thing have to do with personal and third party protection?
@reet7060
@reet7060 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackthomas6952 I don’t know. Ask the Republicans
@emotionsareevil8811
@emotionsareevil8811 2 жыл бұрын
You people are clowns lmao
@jackthomas6952
@jackthomas6952 2 жыл бұрын
Reet Why Republicans?
@reet7060
@reet7060 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackthomas6952 Bruv you must have horrible comprehension skills
@KenanTheFab
@KenanTheFab 2 жыл бұрын
why does every conservative pull the "teachers say kids are trans if they are pink!" literally when has that happened
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
Every time a conservative parent loses it when their son says they like something pink. Parents are the original educators of their kids. Just take the standard adage and apply it here. “Everything a conservative complains about, they are likely doing”.
@KenanTheFab
@KenanTheFab 2 жыл бұрын
@@deviouskris3012 I am convinced of two things, like truly convinced: 1: right-wingers have no clue how to extrapolate nor figure out where objects go if you hide them behind your back 2: literally everything is projection.
@skyeguy7914
@skyeguy7914 2 жыл бұрын
As a pipeline escapee, I always find it interesting to go back to these sorts of arguments and positions. And find myself laughing at my own former stupidity. Especially the moments where he’s like “thank you for admitting that you’re trying to use social media to become more accepted.” As if it’s some shady underhanded tactic being performed where nobody can see it. When the point of social media is literally the exact opposite of keeping things hidden and maintained in secrecy. It took me so long to realize that I was the one as a former “Anti-woke type” working from the shadows and in some thinly veiled layer of secrecy to bring down the other side. But that’s just the nature of the right at the end of the day. Accuse others of doing exactly what you do.
@yoredeerleader
@yoredeerleader 2 жыл бұрын
The reality is that the only people who would be against age appropriate sex education (appropriate being determined by educators) are in fact those whom wish to groom children. A child who is taught about sex is also taught what grooming and other inappropriate behaviour looks like to identify and avoid it. So conservatives. Why are you groomers?
@Setsuna012
@Setsuna012 2 жыл бұрын
A parent can and should teach thier own children about sex and those to avoid as to not be abused. It just seems like projection on your part because you disagree or dislike a political party which isn’t the everyday people you find on the street.
@ghostofsilence2697
@ghostofsilence2697 2 жыл бұрын
@@Setsuna012 yeah you're right, they should, but often times they don't. Take my mother for example, she's a nurse, has been for 22 years not once in the entire time that I lived with her did she ever teach me anything about sex ed or whatever even though she was more than qualified to do so. When I asked her reasoning was "it would have been an awkward conversation" you know what would have been an even more awkward conversation? Coming home to tell her I got a girl pregnant or contracted an STI because I didn't know what protection was. And my stepfather didn't teach me shit either, mostly because he wasn't normally around and when he was... well there were good enough reasons not to talk to him, or even dare to look in his general direction without express permission. This shit I'm thankful I didn't have to learn the hard way due to learning about it at school
@whatisthis1958
@whatisthis1958 2 жыл бұрын
@@Setsuna012 Except many parents DON'T teach their children this stuff, and the whole point of having this education mandatory in school is to breach that gap in education by providing consistent education to ALL children. Unfortunately, most CSA cases come from a family member, often times causing a culture of abuse within the household. Other adults in the household who are not abusers themselves may become complacent towards abuse. If a child is experiencing CSA from their parent, who exactly is going to teach them that it's wrong? My friend didn't know her fathers actions against her was illegal until she was taught about consent and s3xual abuse in secondary school. 10 years too late, but at least she finally knew what was going on was illegal. Many children miss this extremely important education. Providing comprehensive and complete s3x ed in schools adjusted for different age groups has been proven, time and time again, to reduce teen pregnancy, reduce CSA, and reduce time taken to report CSA. It's a net positive. If I had age appropriate s3x ed, I don't think I ever would have been abused, or it wouldn't have gone on for as long as it had done. My friends who have experienced CSA have echoed these sentiments.
@ThisguySL
@ThisguySL 2 жыл бұрын
@@Setsuna012 Because said political party endorses the idea that being a parent means you are owed the right to view your own children as property who are subject to your own convenience even if it leaves them traumatized (potentially for life) in a variety of ways. What about liking or agreeing with that is okay?
@Setsuna012
@Setsuna012 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThisguySL It’s not up the state or government to choose how the parent raises thier kids. Although if a parent does something like trying to transition thier children then yes the state should step in as it’s child abuse when a parent forces a child to do something that would ruin thier bodies.
@PlanetOfTheApes999
@PlanetOfTheApes999 2 жыл бұрын
Logical consistency has always been the enemy of conservatism.
@cawatrooper4278
@cawatrooper4278 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this guys does a "Left Can't Meme" kind of schtick, but anytime he tries to make a joke on here it's the cringiest thing I've heard all day.
@garywebb2432
@garywebb2432 2 жыл бұрын
Hunter's debate skills literally leveled up by +9000 these past couple months
@XtremeConditions
@XtremeConditions 2 жыл бұрын
Sure hope so, 'cause the scar of what went down on Timcast is going to take quite a bit of care to heal.
@garywebb2432
@garywebb2432 2 жыл бұрын
@@shrub8644 that's exactly what it is
@theohfiles8619
@theohfiles8619 2 жыл бұрын
@@shrub8644 nah more & more & more people are coming out of the closet. That why coming out is trendy
@drycoochie2146
@drycoochie2146 2 жыл бұрын
@@theohfiles8619 I absolutely hate this talking point from the right so much. So to you, seeing gay people come out is trendy? It's trendy to be discriminated against, risk getting kicked out, beaten, and killed for being not straight? In many parts of the world it is illegal to be gay. The reason so many people are coming out and trying to make it normal to have gay people in society is so that there will no longer be violence in reaction to seeing a gay person. It's to show that there is no inherent harm to being gay. People in interracial marriage became more and more frequent after it became legal. With your logic, are you going to also say that interracial marriage is a trend since its normalized when for HUNDREDS of years it was seen as something wrong? No! I hope not. So that's exactly what's going on with gay people coming out. As society becomes more accepting of these situations, more and more people will come out and get interracially married or be gay. Before you do the BS talking point of "Well interracial marriage doesn't do any harm." Neither does being gay. Yes there are bad gay people, but the same can be said about straight people. Anyone from any sexuality can do harm to someone but that isn't specific to why gay people, as a whole, is bad. There is no inherent harm that is related to being gay. It is scientifically proven that most p3d0s are straight white men who go after little girls. Does that mean we should prevent straight white men from being shown in media with little kids to not encourage the "straights" to such behavior? Well of course not! Just because a majority of harm is led by a certain sexuality doesn't mean we should ostracize everyone in that sexuality.
@Damn-Sandwich
@Damn-Sandwich 2 жыл бұрын
@@theohfiles8619 or these times are more lenient? uno the only logical answer
@kap1618
@kap1618 2 жыл бұрын
FYI if you're worried about people normalizing the abuse of kids. Maybe take a hard look at the Republican party. So many predators still accepted by the party.
@Setsuna012
@Setsuna012 2 жыл бұрын
Who’re they then? I’d like to know since the communists on the left seem to be doing more of what you said the right does.
@Draconis_Eltanin
@Draconis_Eltanin 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget about the push to keep child marriage legal
@malonee
@malonee 2 жыл бұрын
I love how every time these people come into the conversation as though they aren't bigots and only "care about children" or something along those lines, then in slips out that they just don't like gays, then they just double down
@Setsuna012
@Setsuna012 2 жыл бұрын
How and why is that an excuse? Does everyone who defends the weakest of us all magically became anti-gay?
@slugmaballs7309
@slugmaballs7309 2 жыл бұрын
@@Setsuna012 You're the party of Matt Gaetz. You don't protect children at all.
@malonee
@malonee 2 жыл бұрын
@@Setsuna012 did you even watch this? It literally went from "don't tell kids about gay people because talking about gays is grooming" When asked how, it was just "gay/Trans bad" It literally slipped out and then just got doubled down on. It's just a front and he verbally let it slip that it's just homophobia.
@Setsuna012
@Setsuna012 2 жыл бұрын
@@slugmaballs7309 No, I am human being who cares about other human beings unlike yourself. I am not a political party nor part of one because I care about kids.
@slugmaballs7309
@slugmaballs7309 2 жыл бұрын
@@Setsuna012 Suuuuuuure. You just happen to agree with Republicans on 100% of issues. But you totally don't have any kind of political affiliation whatsoever. Why am I honest about what I believe, and why are you dishonest about what you believe?
@genemelendez8157
@genemelendez8157 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is such an annoying little weasel. With all of the backtracking and backpedaling he needed to do to make his argument sound good. You definitely have way more patience than me Hunter
@guppo26
@guppo26 2 жыл бұрын
I love how after not being able to articulate any actual arguments, unironically going mask off and being called out for it, backpeddling and being proven wrong constantly; The one time he managed to get Hunter to have the slightest agreement with him he instantly got extremely excited yelling "See, that's it, let's end it there, you agree!!"
@mobmaniac
@mobmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
I love how Conservatives live in this fantasy world where Teachers should be emotionless husks of knowledge that can never have a personal conversation with their students
@jackthomas6952
@jackthomas6952 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a Teacher’s place to get personal with students.
@mobmaniac
@mobmaniac 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackthomas6952 Children are curious. They ask questions about their teachers. Why shouldn't they be able to talk about their spouses and children to their students?
@jackthomas6952
@jackthomas6952 2 жыл бұрын
mobmaniac Nothing wrong with talking about one’s family but when the subject of a Teacher’s Sexuality comes up, Teachers should refer the Students to their parents or guardians, it’s no different than a little kid asking his Teacher “ Where do babies come from”? Not an appropriate conversation with a child from an adult that isn’t a parent or guardian.
@cookiesandcream7668
@cookiesandcream7668 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackthomas6952 It is literally a teachers place to get personal with students. They establish a bond, learn how to teach the children, have them for their class for year(s), children are expected to go to teachers with issues they can't take to their parents, teachers are supposed to be safe adults. Teachers need a bond with their students it's how they gain respect and you gain that bond by getting personal such as if you have pets.
@sandersGG
@sandersGG Жыл бұрын
​@@jackthomas6952 boomer schools have sex education classes
@mikeyserrano9748
@mikeyserrano9748 2 жыл бұрын
So "The Left Cant Meme" is ran by some teenager LMAOOOO
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
The funny part is he accepted from the start that Hunters meme was a good example of standard memes. Meanwhile ThE lEfT cAn’T mEmE!
@tristanalain9239
@tristanalain9239 2 жыл бұрын
This bloke sounds like they are 15... For some reason I am not shocked
@matiasyannuzzi9655
@matiasyannuzzi9655 2 жыл бұрын
His voice sounded like he was 15 His arguments sounded like he hadn't been born yet.
@tristanalain9239
@tristanalain9239 2 жыл бұрын
@@matiasyannuzzi9655 I was thinking they sounded about right for a Gryoper. And that is the right age range
@thesaltybeard1793
@thesaltybeard1793 2 жыл бұрын
I had a crush on a girl when I was in kindergarten. Kids have at least Romantic attraction at a young age. This shouldn't be such a problem
@Am3lia77
@Am3lia77 2 жыл бұрын
Romantic attraction in little kids is so common. I hate when they act like gay kids can’t possibly exist and saying they do is sexualising them, but talking about straight kids it’s totally normal
@CaptainFishEye
@CaptainFishEye 2 жыл бұрын
this guy is too stubborn to admit how much of his argument is just another broken record.
@Dawning-Mars
@Dawning-Mars 2 жыл бұрын
This just me speculating here but, the fact he hesitated when Hunter asked if it’s bad for two girls too kiss but didn’t hesitate when asked is it bad when to boys do makes me think he might be lying.
@AllNikoNoLai
@AllNikoNoLai 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. Hunter murdered dude. He brought a fist to a stinger missile fight.
@glennfunderburk7420
@glennfunderburk7420 2 жыл бұрын
Hunter’s patience is absolutely off the charts. I would have lost it on this guy.
@BenYork-UBY
@BenYork-UBY 2 жыл бұрын
On the thing at 9:45, so I did a bit of googling at the claim comes from a quote made by an Australian conservative politician panicking over Australian sx-ed homework and really playing up the drama. What it is, is early sx-ed homework where kids are first taught what their junk actually is, what it's called and what its about to do. At age 10, initial signs of puberty can start (happened to me back then) and kids might wanna know what's going on, so there is a reason to start early sx-ed at that point. At that stage its just talk about anatomy. Think of this as an early primer for the more detailed sx-ed that comes around age 15 Now I'm in New Zealand not Australia, but in the NZ school I went to, I remember schools talking about this stuff for kids aged 11-12. I was introduced to basic male and female anatomy. No it didn't traumatize me for life. Although we didn't really get homework about it. We also didn't deep dive into actual intercourse or anything LGBT. Although I don't know if Australian schools try to talk about that sooner. This was back in the 90s so this type of early sx-ed has already been around for decades On the bit about "sending kids back to their parents to ask". That looks to me more like the homework advising kids that if they're having difficulty with the topic, they can ask their parents for help. And really, wouldn't you as a parent want a bit of agency in this part of their learning? That's what that part of the homework is designed to do: give parents the chance to cover the more sensitive parts and allow parents to give "the talk". I thought conservatives want sx-ed to be given over to parents to handle, and this schoolwork seems to be encouraging just that. I guess when people desperately want to be outraged over anything, there is no satisfying them. Naturally, all the reactionary clickbait news jumped on the story and spun a narrative of "schools are corrupting the kids!" kind of BS. But the sources that actually find the curriculum content and contextualize it show a much less inflammatory story [edit] Ytube, can you please not autodelete my post? Thanks
@jonnaking3054
@jonnaking3054 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when ppl make the comparison, "Well, even if we outlaw guns ppl can still use other things like knives or even their hands as weapons". If someone wants to do a mass killing, I'd much rather them come in swinging their fists than firing a gun
@milkbone8245
@milkbone8245 2 жыл бұрын
“I’m not going to discuss the idea I am clearly wrong about”
@Ditch-Lily
@Ditch-Lily 2 жыл бұрын
I was in Halloween parades in elementary school & now I change into different costumes everyday... damn Halloween-groomers
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you didn’t do a pilgrim outfit at any time. You’d have been groomed by imperialists.
@Ditch-Lily
@Ditch-Lily 2 жыл бұрын
@@deviouskris3012 No, more like witch, vampire, one-piece pj's, maid, etc
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
37:54 “I’m not discussing that” of course dude, he won’t discuss fucking anything that proves him wrong
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
22:20 “its not grooming cause of semantics” no, it’s not grooming at all 22:46 seriously? “I wish they weren’t real” we know
@Iylandrea
@Iylandrea 2 жыл бұрын
This guy:" People who own guns don't commit crimes" Meanwhile in reality: "About 67% of the women killed by their partners are killed with a gun. Access to guns therefore plays an important role in this. On average, 70 women are "shot and killed" by their intimate partner every month."
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
40:19 the harm is it makes him feel iccky 40:25 LMAO RUNNING AWAY AGAIN HE INSTALLY BACKPEDALS WHEN SOMETHING GOES AGAINST HIM
@samflynn3670
@samflynn3670 2 жыл бұрын
A question I like to ask ppl like the caller is... "What could you have learned in school to "turn" you gay or trans?"
@schizoidmarvin
@schizoidmarvin 2 жыл бұрын
My brain exploded watching this god bless you hunter
@SamuraIcarus3
@SamuraIcarus3 2 жыл бұрын
So I get the impulse to have one entrance and one exit to deal with school shooters as an initial thought to limit how unwanted people get in and because it's Hunter I trust he's thought about it, but what do you do when there's a fire? Or if there is a shooter and he just holes up on one side of the school so half the students couldn't get out? It kinda seems like it limits people's ability to escape and could create a Triangle company fire situation
@tresseme8281
@tresseme8281 2 жыл бұрын
This comment made my night so thanks for making it. Schools should not be fortresses. Other than that blip Hunter did well in this debate.
@ashtonshephard3852
@ashtonshephard3852 2 жыл бұрын
Pride is also about worldwide resistance
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
That's it. The only solution is More guns Give the Kids guns and vests This won't gave negative outcomes at all
@dejuanmoore2064
@dejuanmoore2064 2 жыл бұрын
That means the the school shooter would have a vest too, they can still aim for the head or legs
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@dejuanmoore2064 true, but those shots are more difficult, which is why most training focuses on center of mass. But this is still a glaring weakness. There is no other alternative. We're going to need mandated ballistic helmets. Optionally in the mandalorian style, to make kids think they're cool 😎
@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy
@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy 2 жыл бұрын
Kinderguardians
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy oh that is good, do you mind if I spread that around
@chobenn4299
@chobenn4299 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta be honest that was a great merch ad.
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
Right?
@davidwooden3878
@davidwooden3878 2 жыл бұрын
@@WindMageMaster well done all around then!
@chobenn4299
@chobenn4299 2 жыл бұрын
@@WindMageMasterGood Job. The ad was very clever and the designs were actually quite nice(both for showing hunter support and for wearing around
@jamesniagu274
@jamesniagu274 2 жыл бұрын
The Ad for your merch 😂😂 I love it
@BlackShadowRedDragon
@BlackShadowRedDragon 2 жыл бұрын
“Im not discussing it” (because it makes me sound wrong) … “Im not disagreeing” (but I think your wrong) … “lets go back to a point ____” (to where we agree and let me add something and end the discussion)… stop trying to win the argument. discuss and educate, please.
@CT--ve6qi
@CT--ve6qi Жыл бұрын
the caller sounds like Gru from despicable me
@roylogan9020
@roylogan9020 2 жыл бұрын
What he's saying is that the students can assume the teachers straight and they aren't to be corrected.
@steventessier9359
@steventessier9359 2 жыл бұрын
As a high school teacher and someone who's very familiar and comfortable around guns, there's absolutely no chance I would carry one in my classroom. I would leave the profession I was asked to do so.
@LeeJuniper
@LeeJuniper 2 жыл бұрын
Hunter, I am so glad you are such an ally
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
lmao right off the bat, this guy is citing ShortFatOtaku. Someone who defends lolicon and loves Destiny because he's started becoming obsessed with crying about the left. I'm sure this will be a very productive debate where the guy puts forward strong arguments with credible, good faith sources.
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
30:52 NO ONE IS OBSESSING BUT YOU 32:29 ?????? That’s literally not a gotcha 32:42 ???? “Alright yea yea” why’s he’s acting like it’s a gotcha still?
@Hannahgs
@Hannahgs 2 жыл бұрын
Only having one entrance would be a HUGE safety risk especially in the case of a fire. Also I believe I read that armed guards (taking away the huge cost that would add to the education system that is already failing) make a shooting more likely. Parkland had an armed guard. Not only that, an arm guard could and have in the past shot the wrong kids.
@EvilGuacamoleGaming
@EvilGuacamoleGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Great video but, here's some things for at the end. One entrance doesn't matter. Mass shooters can circumvent this issue a number of ways. Go through windows, sneak in at the right time through the front, etc. Prepped assaults also give rise to many other responses. Explosives, quick picks. It just can't work. But more importantly one entrance/exit is a problem for fire safety. There's no real reason to think that limiting entrances will help but it will endanger kids if there is a fire. Not to mention even in an active shooter event having multiple exits could prove to help people escape. Armed officers are extremely ineffective at stopping shootings. In the last two decades they have stopped two shootings. They have, however, destroyed the lives a millions of kids who they regularly torment. Usually it's kids with autism or Black kids. Perhaps most importantly is that shooters will make sure they have equipment that matches any opposition they believe they will face. Armed officers in schools seem to cause shooters to seek weapons with greater killing power. 'Hard targets' are really just an excuse for bigger guns and in the end bigger body counts.
@MrcreepyZero
@MrcreepyZero 2 жыл бұрын
i am so sick and tired of idiots misrepresenting kant's thesis for morality. kant's method to determine which DECISION is moral or not can't be applied her becose bean gay is not a frickng decision. it was allso not his only method of moral framework. this is so infuriating.
@BlackCrossCrusader
@BlackCrossCrusader 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not entirely for or against arming teachers, but what schools need is a specialized system and protocol to deal with armed intruders that is practical. Keeping armed personnel (ex LEO's or military would suffice) within the school would absolutely deter many would be mass shooters from targeting schools as they are easy marks for deranged people to strike at.
@naos8116
@naos8116 2 жыл бұрын
I think part of that issue is that school would closely resemble a prison.
@BlackCrossCrusader
@BlackCrossCrusader 2 жыл бұрын
@@naos8116 If security is done well, you don't really notice a difference in day to day life. A plainclothes officer with concealed carry can act as a hall monitor while a security room with cameras can hold an armed guard(s) on duty who will monitor everything. That's just one small way to help deter mass shooters I can think on the top of my head at the moment.
@naos8116
@naos8116 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlackCrossCrusader I could probably agree with that yeah. The typical thought that comes to mind for me is just dudes holding rifles at the doors or something.
@ShiftylittleDemon
@ShiftylittleDemon 2 жыл бұрын
@@naos8116 they're already built by the same people who design prisons, why not add the armed guards watching the halls?
@arandomhashbrown3756
@arandomhashbrown3756 Жыл бұрын
As a mexican, I am surprised that the guy with the Left Can't Meme gimmick account is also one. Anyways greetings from here Hunter, keep up the good work
@will_pilled
@will_pilled 11 ай бұрын
I've seen teachers be assaulted by kids before. I've seen teachers HAVE to fistfight kids in self defense before. Giving a teacher a gun and them having it taken is not an unreasonable thing to bring up at all.
@504hotboi5
@504hotboi5 Жыл бұрын
Where are all these 14 year old kids that never heard of gay people??
@aneutralopinion1712
@aneutralopinion1712 2 жыл бұрын
As a person who goes to a school of 4000 having one exit and one entrence would be horrible.
@CharlieApples
@CharlieApples Жыл бұрын
This guy is going to flip out when he realizes that “teaching” kids to be straight is, by definition, grooming.
@Greatergood3
@Greatergood3 2 жыл бұрын
They don’t want children to learn about lgbt because these people know that they would accept them if they learned about them
@Swolidarity
@Swolidarity 2 жыл бұрын
How old is this guy (the meme dude) he sounds like he’s 13 lmao
@foramoreperfectamerica8490
@foramoreperfectamerica8490 2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully the rest of today's stream gave my brain cells new life. You have patience beyond words Hunter.
@KlaireMurre
@KlaireMurre 2 жыл бұрын
It's really telling how these kinds of people act like teachers are call of duty protagonists lmao
@jams1070
@jams1070 5 ай бұрын
24:48 that’s a weird way of saying you’ve never seen your teachers like actually love their partners or be in a relationship lol, a bunch of mu teachers used to have pictures of their families and friends on their desks
@Silverfang447
@Silverfang447 2 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up and an additional comment to beat the algorithm. Thanks for the video! 👍🔥👍
@JoseRS1186
@JoseRS1186 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh My GoD! He Admit It!"
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
48:01 dude a kid could grab the teachers gun while they’re leaning over to help someone, like PEOPLE HAVE STOLEN COPS GUNS, TRAINED PROFESSIONALS,
@aitorgonzalez4657
@aitorgonzalez4657 Жыл бұрын
Did this dude try asserting that being gay is like giving confession at church? Dafuq?
@problemsolver3254
@problemsolver3254 2 жыл бұрын
10:03 the video he is referring to is made by Short Fat Atako
@empty_headed
@empty_headed 2 жыл бұрын
the entire time it sounded like he was tryna get clips of hunter agreeing to things, and not letting him add more context to his answer, but hunter just tramples over it lmao
@BurdFan
@BurdFan 2 жыл бұрын
You should have asked him, in regards to the 'could media be used to normalise paedophilia' if a gun can be used by the teacher to murder the students, because I reckon he wouldn't buy that argument. Just because something *can* be used a certain way, it wouldn't necessarily mean it's bad.
@SeverelyGlitchy
@SeverelyGlitchy 2 жыл бұрын
This dude 10/10 still uses the word joto unironically.
@Brizioss
@Brizioss 2 жыл бұрын
eh, nothing to see here, just a confused teenager. move along
@thescreeb6763
@thescreeb6763 2 жыл бұрын
The literal second hunter brought up the “well I can easily say I hate Mexicans” analogy is when he knew he lost, he was so fast to just go “no no no that’s not a good analogy”. My brother in Christ, that analogy is as close to being the actual topic as it can get! Both are: -not something that can be chosen -something so stigmatized we had to use social media to at least make us look human -had teeny tiny percentages of bad cases that were used to simulate our “norm” I am ashamed that I even share a language with someone this brain dead.
@jessicablack9960
@jessicablack9960 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad there are people in this world like Hunter. Let's continue fighting for LGBT rights!
@drewisaac9884
@drewisaac9884 2 жыл бұрын
only having one intrance and one exit will have it's problems too. What if their was a fire and there is only one exit? There should be emergency exits in the school too.
@xyzaxy230
@xyzaxy230 2 жыл бұрын
Kant was about maxims being self-defeating, not about them "being a mess" or "leading to some bad outcomes", and maxims are typically of "may", not of "must". For example, you steal in order to have something, but if everyone can just steal whenever they feel like it, you don't get to have what you've stolen, because someone else can steal it from you. Therefore, the maxim "you may steal whenever you feel like it" is self-defeating. The maxim "You may enter relationships whenever both you and the person you fancy like" is not self-defeating (although not a great maxim, either, it misses some restrictions like age of consent), and although the maxim "You have to have only gay relationships" would be, it's not proposed by anyone. ... Yes, I know. Someone doesn't understand Kant. It's shocking, really.
@quotetheravenclaw2834
@quotetheravenclaw2834 Жыл бұрын
Why does this guy's voice sound like Bartok from Anastasia?? 😂😂😂
@vXn-vXn
@vXn-vXn 2 жыл бұрын
Love you Hunter
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
47:03 we don’t need guns in schools AT ALL besides for TRAINED PROFESSIONALS such as the resident police officer(s) TEACHERS ARE NOT TRAINED, likely mistakes will be made
@nowdy-u5m
@nowdy-u5m 9 ай бұрын
the second he said "being gay is bad" I just stopped listening.
@HavocTheWendigo
@HavocTheWendigo 2 жыл бұрын
hunter schools require multiple exits in case at fire tho rest sounds good
@potturtle366
@potturtle366 9 ай бұрын
how the hell does hunter have this level of patience 😭😭
@limitbreak2966
@limitbreak2966 Жыл бұрын
52:30 ARMING A SINGLE TEACHER IS DANGEROUS, AND YOU LITERALLY JUST FUCKING SAID CARRY THE GUN ON THEM
@NPipiniko
@NPipiniko 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like Hunter's sick voice. For some reason raspy voices just do it for me
@foramoreperfectamerica8490
@foramoreperfectamerica8490 2 жыл бұрын
Also, guys hit that Like Button and share the video.
@WindMageMaster
@WindMageMaster 2 жыл бұрын
AND- check out the new merch!
@foramoreperfectamerica8490
@foramoreperfectamerica8490 2 жыл бұрын
@@WindMageMaster I forgot about that, but yes that too.
@SB-iy9vn
@SB-iy9vn 2 жыл бұрын
Sexuality should not be taught to kids under the age of consent
@hirampriggott1689
@hirampriggott1689 2 жыл бұрын
Only problem is kids have active reproductive systems that function as early as age 12. Think about what could possibly go wrong?
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
Also if kids aren’t aware that things fall into the “shouldn’t be touched there or touch that” category. Then how are they able to identify and approach an adult when they are the victim of abuse? S3x Ed is proven to prevent abuse. Ignorance is shown to increase it. Knowledge is power.
@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy
@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy 2 жыл бұрын
Same people who actually get caught grooming and preying on kids are the most anti gay Gaslight Obfuscate Project
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy of course. They are opposed to the kids learning about anything that could be used to testify against them in court later. If conservatives don’t teach kids what molestation is, they can’t accuse them of it later.
@SB-iy9vn
@SB-iy9vn 2 жыл бұрын
@@deviouskris3012 wtf is wrong with you The only molsetors are you with your insane crap that they might be born in the wrong body Nothing says that you love your kid saying that they were born the wromg way
@markharrison6498
@markharrison6498 9 ай бұрын
The claim that children were told to ask fathers about their erections is complete horseshit btw
@VixxiRaven
@VixxiRaven 2 жыл бұрын
The first few real minutes of the debate and I already get '70 year old boomer who doesn't understand memes' vibes from this dude.
@BurdFan
@BurdFan 2 жыл бұрын
We went to a protestant church, a catholic church and a mosque in high school with our class. Granted I skipped school because I was a pretty militant anti-theist at the time, but still
@deviouskris3012
@deviouskris3012 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this guy goes on a Jordan Petersen thread and accuses JP of being a groomer because he is saying that young woman should be marrying a guy early and pumping out children. Damn that JP and his heteronormative propaganda and grooming. 😂
@ninaxwings
@ninaxwings 2 жыл бұрын
Hunter where do you find these people ? Actually never mind I don’t want to know
@UnknownRayDar
@UnknownRayDar 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what's up with his voice? Seems a little raspy lately
@robertstevens3522
@robertstevens3522 Жыл бұрын
Too many 🍆🍆🍆🍆s hitting the back of his throat
@kaisarion6668
@kaisarion6668 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering how this would be absorbed into the rhetoric…
@markhenry2726
@markhenry2726 Жыл бұрын
The title of this video gave me vertigo
@tadflinder831
@tadflinder831 2 жыл бұрын
I groomed this pidgeon for 2 weeks after my cat tried to groom it and the dog saved it from being groomed.She flew like a champ by the way. Young sherlock holmes. you have to watch it.
@mbburry4759
@mbburry4759 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like yall dont get the concept of concealed carry. The idea to have a firearm on your person and no one knows you have it unless an emergency occurs. Not lying on desk, in a purse, or with a visible holster. Good or bad, idk, perhaps neutral. Certaibly has to be a deterrent to some degree
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