Team Fortress 2: Trade servers in a nutshell

EDIT 1: Comments are back up, stop annoying each other with trade requests, bragging and whatnot. Please.
EDIT 2: This video was made before the bonemerge tool was created.
EDIT 3: The community-created Mann Co. Supply Crate model didn't exist back then as well.
EDIT 4: Team Fortress 2 was NOT free-to-play and did NOT have strange weapons when this video was made and uploaded.
Main description: Based on daily happenings in TF2.
Have something good and people will want to get it at all (small) cost.
I just picked the HOUWAR for representing a rare hat.
Max's Head and Bill's Hat could've been an alternative, but those are tradable while the HOUWAR isn't (adds to the stupidity in asking for trading it). I know it gets tradable by using gift wrap, but whoever wastes money just for being able to trade something, is quite stupid.
I just noticed that I misspelled Earbuds, but most "MUST HAEV HATS! GIBE HATS PL0X!" idiots misspell it anyway.
There are no unusual hats in this video, because they are stupid Sniper magnets that make you look like a retarded Christmas tree.
The Soldier's Kabuto didn't make a sound when it hit the ground, because reasons. If that bothers you, throw something metallic on the ground at that part of the video.
Music: If you don't know the "The Legend of Zelda: The Ocarina of Time" soundtrack, then you better open a new tab, search for it on KZbin and fill that gap in "education" ASAP.
If you care of course.

[@XG417]

lost it at the spy trying to trade his crates xD

[@electric4354]

you forgot those tryhard snipers killing everybody they see

[@T1mT1msen]

That map was pretty unprofitable for that.

[@Attoszhun]

I so much miss the old trade servers where people actually came to trade...

[@Doeboh]

Yep, instead of trading people what is available for trade, they want something else that I'm NOT trading. -_-

[@leafblade2258]

Probably a true story, for me. headshots some random kid with a mic 3 times with my gold engie sniper rifle , he sends me trade for it, he offers a a fists of steel and a crate.

[@MetaGrave]

I'd say poor Hoovy, but he's got earbuds and a Hat of Undeniable Wealth and Respect. He ain't poor!

[@OMalleyTheMaggot]

I hate this shit. If I'm *wearing* a hat, chances are I don't want to fucking sell it.

[@RudeReapxr]

Lol XD Spy killed me with his offer, And heavy's NO seemed funny to me

[@johngregorigonzales2100]

1.i will give 1 scrap for your unusual burning team captain 2. i want that unusual bills hat or i will hack your account 3.i will give this hat for one of your crate choose wisley

[@SaudDehan]

Lol i cant choose one of them Atleast theres no unusual bills hat...

[@HabitualGaming]

2. id like to see him try

[@johngregorigonzales2100]

*hacks account*

[@uni3448]

3. depends what hat. and only for a shitty salvage.

[@FlammenRund]

Saud Dehan There is at least one unusual bill's hat.

[@JCDenton2000]

I hate when people random trade me for my unusual I'm wearing. Just cuz Im wearing it, doesn't mean its for sale...

[@endy9036]

So true. I was selling my demoman hat. Get a trade request, and the dude offers me 2 shitty hats for my maxes head. even though it's not for sale the least you can do is offer me something good

[@SuperYente]

Spy added: Mann Co. Supply Crate Spy added: Mann Co. Supply Crate Spy added: Mann Co. Supply Crate Heavy: NO!!!! Trade got canceled

[@10inchminsh90]

Do people actually act like that spy and just offer crates?

[@NinjaStar531]

***** As a F2P I always did that. Thank god I upgraded...

[@NinjaStar531]

codgamer18877 You can, but you get untradeable items, I used crates that people gave to me for free

[@KingVirus68]

Yep. One of my friends on Steam is a kid, and he offers me crates every now and then.

[@10inchminsh90]

General Snuggles lol

[@Poottisman]

In premium minds like us yhea ive got premium and unusual is 10 keys in f2pers mind an unusual is 2 crates and maybe if ur lucky u get 1 weapon

[@alfrazalam101]

-crate- -crate- -crate- -crate-

[@ThatOneMotherfucker]

dont you hate it when people wants your item and they get butthurt when you are not selling it?

[@m.tammekivi]

LOL ya.

[@Mr_Fancypants]

had that so many times :I

[@NinjaStar531]

Random Trader: "Can I have your Bonk Boy?" Me: "No it's not for sale." Random Trader: "Please." Me: "No." Random Trader: "PLEASE!" Me: "NO!"

[@m.tammekivi]

NinjaStar531 Yea, piss that. Even worse are the F2Ps thinking that hats aren't a big deal and just go beg for them, especially the kids on the microphone.

[@Mr_Fancypants]

NinjaStar531 and they allways end the trade with something like: f*ck you. Or the classic: You suck!

[@terencestark8044]

You forgot about the 'friendlys' whining for being killed.

[@blupolo2389]

Because some people want to play the game different way and be just wierd then assholes destroy it.

[@ubermedic9979]

Well most people that kill friendlys are f2p on trade servers

[@Jake-rr9qr]

Uber medic more like people who dont read the chat when i dont want to fight on my favorite trade server there is always at least 1 fucking guy whos an bitch whos ignorant of chat

[@pcslash5916]

jake riley-cross Key weapons an f2p uses: Machina BrassBeast Default Flame Thrower Natascha

[@Jake-rr9qr]

PcSlash and they dont use that

[@TheTriforceCrusader]

Lol, pretty much. The other problem is that no one seems to have the items you want or wants to buy the items you are selling. Instead, they want the ones you are wearing or the ones you are using. For example, "Hey guys, selling a few stranges, trade me and see em". DUN DUN. *click* "Yo, I'll give ya 2 buds for your Strange KS Machina" "Nope, not for sale. These are" Trade cancelled by xX1337Xx. I hate that. I'm selling what I'm selling so that I can buy what I want to buy and the things I'm wearing/holding ARE NOT FOR SALE! Buy my other crap instead!

[@riilhiiro]

So true. These people fucking piss me off.

[@TheTriforceCrusader]

Dude, if I'm holding it, wearing it, or have it equipped, it's probably not for sale. Ya know???

[@lucastakeji1845]

i remember when trade servers used to be cool, i mean when TRADING at all used to be cool when it was JUST a ingame feature, now there's "please check this and this and this and this, trade offer sent. Ok R U SURE U WANT TO TRADE? yes. REALLY? R U SURE? yes!, GREAT! NOW CONFIRM THIS AND THIS, THIS ASWELL. THERE WAS AN ERROR COMMITING THIS TRADE, NO ITEMS HAVE BEEN EXCHANGED, PLEASE TRY AGAIN. p.s: i know that valves been taking these extreme measures to protect US from scammers and its good that they at least are taking action towards that. BUT, its a bit annoying heh and I KNOW THAT U CAN DISABLE YOUR EMAIL CONFIRMATION ON YER PROFILE SETTING, dont even start, BUT i still prefer doing these annoying steps then not having their support if anything wrong happens.

[@T1mT1msen]

*stfu and gib me ur stuff or i report u!*

[@scapegoat4]

You forgot the guy who is selling something for a good deal, but people still lowball it. That is the main reason why I don't trade much anymore... I try and sell a black fast learner for a key flat and people tell me "the paint is worth nothing." When I check the person's profile, it almost always says they have >100 hours on the game, or somewhere in the 100s. It just saddens me that the entire point of trading - learning prices, learning the market, and "selling your stuff" in a smart manner - has been lost to the retardation of speadsheets and pricing guides where people blindly follow 'suggestions' rather than actively looking for recent sales and figuring out a good price by themselves. Hell, the other day I traded a guy and he wouldn't even follow a link I sent him which had the item he wanted for a good price, simply stating 'just tell me the prices.' He didn't suspect me of any scams or anything, he was simply too lazy to copy paste a link. It's this lazy fuckin' attitude that really makes me hate TF2's community trading wise, and that mixed in with a lot of people trying to pull a pawnshop-like deal (aka 90% off or no deal) is just disgusting. I know that AcesGamer holds a similar opinion, but goddamn... It's gotten worse, hasn't it.

[@guywithbrush]

I agree that people just want to make as much profit as possible and are kinda assholes but maybe the guy you sent the link to was skeptical, maybe you were just some dude trying to give viruses to people it was simply a smart move in my eyes

[@frankshang8718]

Most computers are protected with this thing called an anti-virus software of some sort and I'm pretty sure that guy had it too...

[@oakcutter1313]

don't forget to pay the 'massive unusual overpay' if you want 1on1...

[@pcslash5916]

Frank Shang Hey frank, What anti-virus software? o.O

[@sscamc]

Because I click on every random link people send me in tf2.

[@K4NDY_K4INA]

I was expecting Demopan with "Stout ShaKO! For for two two refined!" Gotta love him. The good thing was that I saw it in the thumbnail. Glad that I clicked the video! x3

[@ToaKoran]

"Trading vintage rift axe for 20 refined or 10 keys"...my..god.. the sudden realization that this was back when keys were 2 refined.. 20 refined today will get you just a bit over 2 keys..My how the economy has changed..

[@just4skyrim]

itll get you almost three keys... keys are 7.33 - 7.66

[@ToaKoran]

Well, when I put up that message, keys were 8.33 refined so neither I nor you are wrong. Though I can honestly say I am thankful keys are going DOWN in price for once.

[@dylanpage7266]

nowdays that vintage rift axe price would be a huge scam

[@oneworldcommunity117]

now its 9.33

[@ToaKoran]

LegoGod663 I've seen people selling keys for 10.33.. I mean good god, why are people so darn greedy in tf2 now (disregarding world wide greed right now) I still sell keys for 5.33 because I feel anything above that is a ripoff, I mean.. just why.. It doesn't help that buds are once again in a state of constant descending prices.

[@Grooby__]

1:46 Best Part

[@RudeReapxr]

Crate overload XD

[@Neon_Texan]

Zaemon Daniels I was once that person.

[@iblobtouch]

Ah 2011, back when keys were 2ref and we got more than just re-skins every update, not just whenever Valve feels the game is losing interest. Now keys are 14ref and we have end of the line which added F***ing ducks, a shameless cash grab that re-used the duck model and sounds from the halloween update. On an unrelated note Fun fact, i used to be that spy and traded away all the duplicate crates i had, turns out some of those were worth a key because some of them had items worth over 2 keys.

[@TioMegamanX]

So the items are set when you get the crate? I thought the item was set at random when you opened it.

[@iblobtouch]

VanFanel1980mx It lists the items you can get on it :3

[@TioMegamanX]

Yes, but it still doesn't guarantee a good one, most items apparently are not even worth a single key, at least in my experience, that Valve conference I saw long ago didn't take into account how the marketplace has some stuff for really cheap.

[@T1mT1msen]

Yeah, for people who care: I just met a kid who wanted 2 weapons (Boston Bacher and Homewrecker) for a Sandvich. It said "On that way I make profit". When I traded with someone else for only 1 weapon, it raged and screamed like someone stole its lollipop.

[@Roadkilledhorse]

the mann co crate spy is me

[@95wave43]

"trading vintage rift ax for 20 REF or 10 keys" man times have changed

[@LunaticWithALicense]

When the spy was loading all his crates into the trade I laughed my ass off xD

[@PasitherusGames]

I feel bad for spy

[@raphaelbret1952]

This is exactly how it works

[@brawlerdude555]

TF2Outpost in a nutshell

[@NomoregoodnamesD8]

*spits out milk* You gotta be kidding me! No trade server even has trades going, only snipers fighting each other from each own's spawn.

[@treesarehackers3488]

After 3 years, this is still pretty accurate

[@Bakagiraffes]

I love how the heavy was trading since it's always almost true.

[@HeroWolfMod]

Love how the heavy was quiet before the spy added the 3rd box, then he shouted "NO!"

[@droque45]

I have had enough emotional and physical pain to understand this. Good Video.

[@Based_Tobias_]

This is 100% accurate...I love how people on Trade Servers think that Guillotine/Sandman is a F2P loadout when it's one of the harder combos to pull off consistently.

[@joeclay9683]

ending= greedy sharkers in a nutshell

[@THEMO918]

The concept of spy paying with crates alone to get buds or the HOUWAR is hilarious.

[@KoOkiEzRoCkz]

Wheres the token crafting guy?

[@T1mT1msen]

KoOkiEzRoCkz Who the fuck crafts tokens these days? I mean okay, there are some people who want to have *everything* or at least *as many different things as possible*, but tokens? "Yo, this page has Scout items, but *just* in case I made a token so everyone knows which class can wear the Bonk Helm if they check my inventory!"

[@T1mT1msen]

NitestonePlays Good for you.

[@nitestoneplays9251]

:D

[@KoOkiEzRoCkz]

WOOHOO CONGRATS

[@zackthomas6033]

This accurately sums up trading in tf2. There will always be that one guy that doesn't know what each wep/hat is worth, or the guy trying to scam you with cheap weps, and that guy trying to get rid of his crates.

[@DoktorVicTim]

Little did the poor Heavy know that the Spy wanted to trade 5 boxes for one Black Box. And they all contained Unusuals and one Mad Milk....

[@suzuki3205]

LAUGHED SO HARD WHEN SPY WAS TRADING LOLOLOLOL

[@gingergingerginger1]

I remember back in the day when finding a hat, or crafting one, was really exciting! Now it's just a common event, mainly through trading. Almost everyone has dozens of the things. I also miss having to meet loads of achievements to receive the weapon unlocks (Medic for example).

[@trdl23]

By the way, fave'd and subscribed. This was bloody hilarious -- and so true.

[@Raiidude]

You got a sub for this, ive seen this on every single trade server ive ever been on. Also, the part with spy trading crates makes me laugh everytime XD

[@ryanallen1328]

Oh I get it, he was Pyro-Shark! Eeeh?

[@thecursor123]

Pro-tip If you are not gonna trade hats but only unique weps, go scrap-banking.

[@HanMew]

But you wouldn't get a wep for a wep. Youd be paying 2 for 1.

[@thecursor123]

Well i am reverse banking and i get 1 for 1.

[@Jake-rr9qr]

if you are selling hats for 1 rec more than it is i was gonna sell a bonk helm for 1.66 (max price) then i found a guy and i thought: "hmmm, 2 ref for meh!" and i succsessfully sold it (one of the things he gave me was a football helm so i sold that for 1.33 accidently then i asked the guy for 1 extra rec soon after then by super luck he gave me a bucket of Mann co orange paint!)

[@gaabrrable]

Scrap.tf

[@codefreak8]

Every time I try to sell my shit, people either trade me trying to sell THEIR shit, or they try to buy 40+ of my weapons for a hat, because some people probably fall for that.

[@Frieza102]

I have been using KZbin for around 7 years now, and I have never, ever, ever laughed this hard before. I can't even make it through the spy's crate trade without dying. Thank you.

[@AlaniLTD]

Still alot better than now when on every trading server there is just f2p's and some playing entirely competitive

[@brettcarlson2030]

Why do I see scout shakos in all of these trade servers in a nutshell videos?

[@T1mT1msen]

Because it was a nice meme back then.

[@OfficialDeathdog]

I died laughing when spy started adding crates to the trade.

[@KingVirus68]

I get the same thing; I go on trade servers to sell hats/buy strange parts, and I keep getting trades from people who want my stranges or want to sell me a bunch of crappy weapons.

[@isaacrodley5356]

music from Zelda

[@kbdbr3335]

0:25 Painis , Painis , Painis , Painis

[@Blamcomac]

I remember when i first watched this video and couldn't understand how it was a problem. Now that I actually own something of value, I can relate to this heavily.

[@Maxjk0]

this happens whenever im looking for a specific weapon to play the game with

[@Mityr]

this isactuallyaccurate

[@cocknose]

How do you remove trade hold/steam guard? its pissing me off since I already have the app

[@T1mT1msen]

I'm not Steam Support, mate. Try reading the Trading FAQ or something.

[@T1mT1msen]

@SgtMarcusEagle I already have all weapons, this was just an example.

[@JakesFavorites]

Now I can just watch this instead of idle for six hours on a trade server and I get the same experience! Thanks Tim.

[@king57339]

Trah Ding Blawk Boux Fourh Mahd Milk

[@hotrodthe1]

What was so special about the milk?

[@T1mT1msen]

Heavy did not have it.

[@Invisifly2]

It's even better when you say exactly what you are accepting, and that you don't want anything else, and they still do this.

[@AtillaTheFun1337]

People like the sniper and pyro constitute 87% of trade servers in my experience... The worst part is when they decline a 3 hat for one deal.

[@joxxpertlokendero9740]

true story

[@e.k4320]

sooo true

[@SpinoRexzillaEN25]

This always happens... I was selling REF for a Cremators conscience and a person invited me to a trade and then he said in chat " What is that" I asked him "What? The Refined?" And then he said " OMG KID THE CREMATORS CONSCIENCE" I quit the trade after I said " Why did you trade me to ask me what the item was..." It's hard to find a item without so many other trades for other items you have or someone asking what it is, OR asking for alot more... After a long time SOMEONE finally got me it, it took me hours of useless trades

[@trainknut]

Sometimes I feel like the spy, then I unbox a hat and i feel like heavy.

[@fireflyhighh]

Silly video no one trades on trade servers it's a conga fest for 7 year olds

[@fireflyhighh]

Well I joined steam in mid January 2012

[@T1mT1msen]

Jordan Berger And this video is from May 2011. Your point is... ?

[@fireflyhighh]

That I joined mid January 2012?

[@T1mT1msen]

Jordan Berger That still doesn't give the Conga taunt time travelling abilities.

[@luizausiza]

Tim Timsen Welp, that burnt...

[@alexpreface]

Weird, your forgetting the kids who mic spam on these servers, and the trolls and or trolldiers that run around instantly killing people out of no where and the unusual wearing players sitting in spawn switching hats with each other for the entire period of the video, with a sandwich, holiday punch, heavy running in the middle with mic spammers using music and or sound bytes re-enacting GayPeniz

[@Davtwan]

This is why I only have three trading servers on my favorites list. They're the only ones that GO anywhere. (The stuff that happens in this video still happen. It's just that the people are much easier to deal with, and things get done a lot faster.) Extra hint: Never get on a trading server with a backpack mod and very patient players unless you want to be stalked forever.

[@PinoyPogiman]

yea, almost every trade server comes equipped with a begger, a swindler, and a troll but its how kids give up for something that would require more

[@NerdyStalkerGeek]

Your comment about how people don't know how to handle their money and waste it on unusuals so brought my mind to Mattie. With his $36K backpack. And the spy trading with crates reminded me of myself, when the s. huntsman came out and I thought a key could buy anything. Of course... I did not get my huntsman.

[@steveblauwk1632]

Back When trading was simple, and there were more weapons than hats in the goddamn game. good times... good times.

[@T1mT1msen]

"5 keys for my hat, price is firm, don't lowball or I report u lol!"

[@bryguy13514]

I can relate to this so much, as far as to the fact that my cousin is the type that thinks he can convince anyone with his stupid crates and theyre not even salvaged

[@The_SilverMane]

Fits it 100%. I get random tradeinvites every 5 minutes because of my hat and I'm not even on a trade server. Trading this, trading that. Sometimes I wish they would just reset the game to 0: No hats, no new weapons, no trading, nothing.

[@hlpbgh]

Toenninga, using this music has invoked memories long relegated to the brink of my mind. Thank you for the nostalgic reminder.

[@sashkod]

the name of the video should be : "Team fortress 2 today"

[@shiftinfive]

Whats worse is when they think your buying a wep when your really selling it

[@iseethatyouaretakingtimeou4405]

This is exactly what happens when I play on a valve server while wearing my team spirit bills hat.

[@broosbit]

It is an achievement hat, from "alien swarm" the hat is called alien swarm parasite, and it is painted brown.

[@ThehungryZombie1]

i always laugh when i see the spy trying to trade the crates with a creepy smile on his face

[@lolinion]

"10 keys" I remember when a single key was worth 3 refined. Now they're worth what, 7? How does a virtual item go up in price? Three refined can take a long fucking time to make, it may as well be thirty years later by the time I get enough metal to trade for 10 keys. Damn.

[@freshpanda88]

if the heavy has such valuable hats/items he's obviously going to know what there worth. so why on earth did they even bother tradeing with him?! greed? stupidity? inexperience? (love the video by the way.)

[@Spycrab777]

This happens to me as well, it seems people suffer from "I can't readosis" I type "Selling some hats and items for offers-send trade" and all people's minds proccess are the words "trade" and they have no reason why they send me a trade for.

[@deimos9358]

This happens to me everyday like i sell 3 items worth 3 buds and somone puts a crate

[@themrprofesserC]

But then, after finding over 9000 crates, that spy found a crate 40. And then he was happy.

[@bowserandluigiteam2]

That moment when you have a boston boom-bringer and EVERYONE trade you to get it...

[@WachaooGames]

Trade servers in a nutshell- A bunch of free to plays murdering each other on a tiny map.

[@u-kn]

i know how is that heavy feels, just that I got REPORTED for saying "NO" to the trade offers!

[@lotuszoitachi7653]

I lost it when spy started adding boxes. NO! A good minute of laughter there lol

[@T1mT1msen]

To beg for free stuff. They can't give items, but they can receive them.

[@WootmansayWOOT]

Jesus. It's so accurate. It's like this in every game that involves trading.

[@MettanAtem]

Fortunately I haven't seen this side of trading that much. But it still happens. The most recent incident of it was someone asking for my Cremator's Conscience.

[@thehuggerofzombies]

1:45 has got the be the funniest thing I've seen in ages.

[@T1mT1msen]

That place where people want 6 refined for their shitty hat and say "Price is firm"? Well, to each their own.

[@Megasergio92]

True story... Most of the times I've went to a trade server they often ask for hats, keys or metal...

[@T1mT1msen]

As the title says, I witness it, it doesn't happen to me, because I disabled trade invites from strangers.

[@MahBonk]

In the battlefield we trade bullets and rockets. No silly hats.