Abusing TF2's Oldest Meme Strategy

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Edit: answers to your commonly asked questions. - The HUD is Flawhud - To get thirdperson in Casual Medieval type the command at the start of the gameplay in your console. - No the speech bubble didn't show to enemies when I talk, only my teammates, this is only a thing on alltalk servers. If you pull off a sick coffin spot then put it on twitter and tag me in it! twitter.com/creemgarvy

[@MrNeIZ-iq9ny]

@@wowzaaaaaaaaaaaaa no, no one will

[@purpl3d]

Now try using this emote on cart on payload at start

[@PraiseTheBoi]

no

[@_AnCub_]

You can also tell your friends(if you have them) to use that taunt and stay in the same spot and point capture rate will be increased

[@TheAngelofBattle99]

Didn't record it, but I once pulled it off on Class Wars. We were defending at stage 1 and, because it seemed impossible to win Spy vs Medic matchup, I tried to pull off Coffin strat for shit and giggles. Stayed near those boxes for 3 minutes straight before they realized what prevented them from capping.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

6:29 his teammate ate the melee hit here, causing him to think that you were just a prop again Thats fucking insane luck

[@vina6665]

it's really funny how his teammate ate the melee hit when the teammate is literally nowhere near in front of him

[@Stormghetti]

What happened is that Creem got hit and so his model (along with its collision box and hitboxes) shifted away from the coffin. It's why you can see the Demo go inside the coffin as he swings again. The sword hit the wall.

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

​@@vina6665classic tf2 hotbox moment

[@sy-py]

THEY ARE EATING EACH OTHER'S MELEE HITS

[@thelordofthelostbraincells]

@@sy-py i immediately read that in lazy purple voice XD I wonder how he's doing? It's been over a year and he's been silent

[@zekenotech]

Doing the Coffin strat on Halloween mode is obscene since the Coffin straight up looks like an in game prop on certain maps. I would definitely do a part 2 of this when Scream Fortress 2024 comes out.

[@Demanteq]

By that time, players will probably already be adapted to coffins.

[@jc_art_]

​@@Demanteq its already been almost a year since the coffin came out, and people still have no idea. Spirit Halloween's started setting up their stores a month ago, i dont think time is moving by as slow as you think

[@timothyleplayer]

yes

[@edgysnarfbrownie5778]

Here it is.

[@hershylewis]

" in a moment of desperation, sniper tries hitting the cart with his pan" That got me laughing

[@voxfoxclips8684]

The box is bright and always has a team color associated with it, making it stand out on most maps. The coffin, on the other hand, is a neutral color and texture, able to blend into darker props on more maps, if in the right spot... also no team colors. Also at certain angles enemy sentries will target you, but shoot ABOVE YOU, being able to waste its ammo. It's insane.

[@ingothasnolife8040]

Its funny how it's literally to the point where one of his teammates thought he was an enemy LMAO

[@demitrischoenwald1436]

What I've learned is that people can now use TF2 robots as their VR persona

[@foodaah]

he is using a mocap suit, in case you didn't know

[@RealErdenman]

Damn. ​@@foodaah I think he knows. It's just that vr tracking is much cheaper and more usable in some random vids like these.

[@knyt0]

@@foodaah it's not mocap, it you can see only the hands and head are tracked, and it's moving like a vrchat character, along with the camera that you can hold in vrchat

[@foodaah]

@@knyt0 oh i see, thx for explaining

[@TemkaUwU]

Vrchat is super good for this. It's amazing 😊

[@kickshins1424]

philphiest coffin spot known to man

[@Ethan13371]

Known to Mann

[@ryandavis6107]

Va phiewphiest coffen spo’

[@ICryForGames]

"nnnnnooooer" every time he gets caught lol

[@I_also_needed_a_name_so]

@@ryandavis6107vrwong philosophyphilliest cough-in sp-ought none 2 mann

[@BouwerDean]

I looked at this and was so confused and then realised you meant ‘filthiest’ 😭

[@ericrandall548]

Spy: *hides in cardboard box* Enemy Team: *eviscerates Spy immediately* Enemy Team: Get your solid snake wannabe outta here, your strat is dead! Spy: *respawns* Dead you say? Spy *hides in coffin*

[@Mario583a]

Enemy Team: _NANI!_

[@LarryTheTugaGamer1511]

NO! That is NOT Solid Snake!

[@NickZzZ99]

@@LarryTheTugaGamer1511 Stop Impersonating him!

[@LarryTheTugaGamer1511]

@@NickZzZ99 *empties magazine on 'em*

[@CreepysOcean]

i vant to stop your caaart

[@Kapnohuxi_folium]

hah

[@kirbyfreakyt4695]

Omg yes

[@Boomblox5896]

Weird how "Cart" is a great substitute for "Heart" and it fits that Dracula theme all the same.

[@Voidi-Void]

​@@Boomblox5896i feel like heart-stopping is more of a _byproduct_ of what dracula does

[@hannayapelekai1628]

@@Voidi-Void dracula is the throat goat fr fr

[@MsMariGaming]

Best reason the coffin taunt is better than boxtrot It blends in 100% on all halloween maps, making detection near impossible, even if players know about it.

[@MewZe]

I cannot get enough of the mocap segments. KEEP IT UP GREEM!!

[@Purely_bread]

Tf2 addicts rise 🆙

[@Cheese-hl1yx]

It's Amazing!

[@hershylewis]

Yoooooooo Mew ze

[@z1n0m0t0]

It's vrchat is it?

[@Happy_doggo]

Yooooo it's the mario garden warfare TF2 corpse ahh voice guy! Love your videos!

[@Sageknot]

can i just say having your "avatar" be just the robo soldier instead of your main played class with 3 unusuals is SO refreshing. along with how animated this little guy is i love watching him emote

[@honzapribyl5742]

its vr

[@dr.robertnick9599]

Oldest meme strategy? There is the meme strategy of spraying something "worth looking at" and then backsatabbing the distracted player as spy and sprays are older than the box trot taunt.

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Looks better in the title :)

[@raymondwang3110]

Pingas

[@LeOwwAndRose]

​@@MoreCreemSmile it works :]

[@RjGoombes]

​@@MoreCreemSmile fair lol

[@redridingcape]

​@@MoreCreemSmile I respect it.

[@RobotnikPlays]

See, this is why Spy needs an alternative disguise kit that is just various props instead of classes. Prop hunt for spies!

[@MoreCreemSmile]

YO that'd be sick actually

[@vicgc96]

In TFClassic the spy did have something similar in which he would play dead instead of current spy's cloaking.

[@girlville]

this would be cool for non-spy/enemy players too, it'd be another way to reward familiarity with maps

[@crazinventor4442]

​@@vicgc96 imagine the dead ringer did this instead. That would be interesting.

[@lil_lion69]

10:12 is a horrible sight. I didn’t know that the spy could slide out of the taunt like that.

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Just about the only thing the box Trot has on it ngl

[@Sheadogisbeast01]

​@@MoreCreemSmile if you use the taunt while standing on a teleporter the coffin will disappear and the spy will be lying flat on the ground, use this info wisely

[@justtherabbithole2577]

On 2fort, when this taunt was relatively new, I realized this, and so through the means of dealing damage and than healing him, we managed to get the spy to be almost completely across the room from where his coffin was. Good times.

[@M.F.Hafizhan]

kinda reminds me of the TFC feign death mechanic

[@nyanpasu4060]

I feel like Spy having the ability to disguise as props on any given map should have been a feature to his class from the very beginning.

[@whitemouse2460]

+ can capture/block capture while disguised - cannot move - no critical hits

[@seekra5920]

Maybe it could be an alt Disguise kit? You lose the ability to become players but you get a pick of a few props

[@subhuman2433]

Prop hunt as a feature would actually be really funny, it's not like it would be particularly broken either

[@RandomRebelSoldier]

@@subhuman2433 They already made Prop Hunt in TF2 a while back, it was an absolute disaster because of sentries, airblast, ubercharge, etc. They'd have to restrict most of the classes for it to be viable.

[@benlubbers4943]

@@RandomRebelSoldier Maybe make it an alternative to the invis watch. To sentries you still count as invisible. Visually the spy turns into a map appropriate prop. "The Cardboard Conniver" Disguise as a map prop + Silent cloaking and decloaking + No cloak charge is drained while active. + 3rd person camera while cloaked + Leaves a fake map prop in place when decloaking . Maximum of 3 fake props . Fakes are destroyed upon taking damage - 25% slower while cloaked - Not actually invisible - Lose all cloak charge upon decloaking "Ah this reminds me of my youth in the Militaires sans Frontieres..."

[@MuhHanif-rt5wn]

always love your rigs man especially how you got those individual grenades jiggling

[@rornir42069]

Hold up, are you using VR/Mocap for your Robot Soldier Animations? That's a fucking genius way to get away with microstutters and weird artifacts in the motion.

[@BootlegOrgans69]

probably a vrchat avatar

[@Stage_3_Yawning_Cat]

5:54 lol, the demo's name was "Worst Spy Ever"

[@markoth-d9m]

holy fuck 2015 was 9 years ago

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Yeahh... doesn't seem right does it

[@redridingcape]

Makes me feel like aan ancient relic ngl

[@actuallymesfin]

0 was 2024 years ago😭🗣

[@bcj842]

That was when I started playing this game. I started playing during Love and War. It feels like I'd been playing for a rather long time by the time Box Trot came out though. So strange how time feels different the older you get.

[@dixitwastaken]

nuh uh

[@TinyDeskEngineer]

Everyone in the thumbnail is looking away from the coffin. Except the blue spy. _He knows._

[@thor8606]

That's a really cool detail, good catch!

[@thomasmedveddubois4566]

We evolve the strat from the Box to the Forever Box

[@protodvd]

9:14 I see what you did there. "On the back half"... very good.

[@SealTf]

Best ester eggs 9:15 the d. Ck

[@reimuhakurei2123]

back half of tf2 calendar girls seggs uogh

[@gibustheinfamous]

4:49 using Bãtutã din Moldova for the transitions is a genius move

[@alexmineru]

the robo soldier to cover for the shakiness the motion cap can give out is such a genious idea

[@Freekymoho]

You know youre becoming truly ancient when you see people refer to a TAUNT as tf2's oldest meme strat

[@man-batiszkokabatsow4153]

For better strategy, bring other Box Spy as a red herring. They'll look for another box and not a coffin

[@Rinne_Z_rank]

Boxtrot walked so that coffin could walk and stop in 1 place where people can't see you

[@TheR00ndar]

"TF2's oldest meme strategy" \*uses taunt added in the Gun Mettle update\* Wow I feel old.

[@MoreCreemSmile]

It just looks better for the title, I'm sure there's so much older ones

[@grambortino]

My grandpa is great at this strategy, haven't seen him in years!

[@MoreCreemSmile]

I'd pin this if I didn't have to pin my own.

[@luckyblve]

when we were playing with my spymain friend he used that taunt to clutch through longer cp rounds or mess around with the cart. sometimes ppl wouldnt even notice him despite being on top of it lol, it was a lot of fun. happy to get a reminder of those times, ty for the great video !!

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Thanks for the nice comment :)

[@TDCsuper35363]

i remember doing the coffins taunt whole damn round and the Blu team legit left the game thinking the cart was broken

[@FluffyFailure0]

Someone tried to use this on High Tower to push the cart well trying to resemble a corpse. And they would have gotten away with it too, if I wouldn't have recognized this taunt. :3

[@PalaceOfTGhosts]

:3

[@LockheedF-117]

Just want to say, your animated persona as Robot Soldier is AWESOME! I love how expressive it can be, even without a "face." It really made the video enjoyable to see your character in a unique way! Not to mention, the editing was GREAT! It's paced really well :D On the other hand, this was quite the video! Really informative and entertaining! Also, hilarious to see how players react to these little mishaps hehe! Great work! Have a wonderful day and God bless you :D

[@lorelius.hogglefart]

10:24 that scout saw you lol

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Yeah that was my friend in voice chat who I was BEGGING to let it happen, everyone else was a random though

[@DoesRandomStuffYT]

@@MoreCreemSmile hi

[@szonig_pl3024]

*every death within that box should trigger a random game over theme from Metal Gear Solid, because, why not?* (someone should mod it) Also, add long ladders.

[@MoreCreemSmile]

What a thrill

[@scirysharko]

This video was really enjoyable to watch! I loved the use of mocap, it's very creative!

[@foxswan4116]

editing and mocap looks crazy dude mad underrated channel 👌👌👌👌

[@Whomobile]

TF2 Robot Soldier has gained sentience and an Australian Accent

[@bagl7833]

Good work man, great editing and clips are juicy

[@KiegKillsReality]

DANG IT DUDE!! YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH!!! I'm working on a vid about this exact same strat LMAO!!

[@MoreCreemSmile]

Hey make it anyway man

[@TheG_Boy]

We are so starved of new content that we now use taunts as new mechanics

[@Woodland_Adventures]

Nice mocap suit! Love that you kept the general jitteriness of the mvm robot too.

[@chestnuteevee927]

1:39 Rhythm Thief OST spotted.

[@elitemation]

whats the name of the ost?

[@elitemation]

Nvm ist called R Phantom Theme

[@CrasherX2000]

Someone’s cultured 👌🏽

[@Owen-f8z]

Sunny:”no” while smiling 3:05

[@ChadicusVonRadicus]

Your mocap work dropped my job. You are amazing at video creation, so keep it up and you will get BIG in no time.

[@grandmastachez1765]

This is a really good video with awesome editing, I loved seeing real time movement of vr, reminded me a lot of therussianbadgers style of real life in an animated mimicry

[@skateboredxo]

chat is this another more creem classic?

[@ashleylorenz7336]

How to help your team win: use dirty coffin spots as spy

[@cryo5846]

4:11 Found you :)

[@patrickguyum]

You cant just hit me with the fact that the box trot is 9 years old like that man

[@DarkKnightofIT]

From just _a_ box to _the forever box_

[@Lilly_288]

This Is Underrated But This Is Like Almost Most Videos Like This So You Need To Distinguish Your Self From Other But Still Very Underrated Channel

[@williamelling3579]

The coffin is better during Halloween

[@Ancy-tf]

I love the editing, the content, your whole mood really just made me enjoy the video. you definetly deserve more subscribers

[@MysterySuperhero-wy5gv]

Your such an underrated TF2tuber! Can't believe the algorithm didn't bless you, also your editing is phenomenal!

[@MrCanKnotNot]

Still loving the VRC tuber concept

[@smashtownemainchannel]

this guy is playing tf2 in third person how in the cinnamon toast flip

[@technogamer2737]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[@commscan314]

Medieval mode allows its own special third person

[@JohnnyofTheSevenSeas]

As a Spy main, I love this. I'm going to start using this occasionally on PL and CP maps so that I can cause psychological warfare. :]

[@pretizell9861]

watching an spy from my team do this strategy while im dead never fails to crack me up, its just so dumb

[@0_zsR]

I didn't actually cared about the Taunt, I was impressed about the way you animate that Soldier.

[@ValiantNorth]

The integration of VRC is genius here, well done

[@Srelathon]

Never seen any of your videos before, but the animations, editing, commentary, all of it were amazing Now to go back and watch all of your other videos :P

[@gameruee]

this video is crazy good i cannot believe you don't have more subs!

[@andrew1357984620]

Nice video. I really appreciate all of the editing and the extra stuff you've done. Very high quality video!

[@trianglemoebius]

The problem is you keep hiding in the same spot (especially notable in medieval). Only use the CoffinTrot on maps/points where you can switch it up a bit when killed, otherwise they'll quickly figure out where to look.

[@MintMilk.]

The jank of mocap fits the robot perfectly!

[@DoxSteele]

A tip for the VRC sections: you can remove the jitter that is caused by local tracking by using the interpolator program that someone made. I don't remember the name, but looking up "vrc fix jitter" should be good enough. The other solution is to record it from another client lol

[@MoreCreemSmile]

If by jutter you mean the shakiness on the shoulders, that's just the model. It mimicks the shoulder shake of the mvm robots

[@DoxSteele]

​@@MoreCreemSmile I think I was watching on a lower quality, so it was looking like the fbt jitter I get, I can see it now that I'm watching it on my big monitor at the right res lol

[@overdramaticpan]

I've never seen anyone use a robot Soldier VR persona. That's actually really cool!

[@twotailedavenger]

This makes me flash back to when Upward had some janky map geometry that let you survive Equalizer tauntkills

[@s_seal]

YOOOOOOOO THATS ME as the demoman who found u no way. as a spy main that was funny as hell

[@ForgetfulHatter]

Spy : Sleeps on the job also Spy : Wins. Clearly they were outclassed.

[@majapaja_]

the sfm mocap is fucking awesome ive never seen anything like it

[@maxresdefault_]

That soldier bot SFM is absolutely wild

[@ImReddoer]

4:45 this guy plays with tf_scoreboard_alt_class_icons 1

[@MoreCreemSmile]

@@ImReddoer it looks normal to me now haha

[@dranik8]

Me too

[@newturtle3]

The thing to surpass the boxtrot and the coffin taunts are the sadness taunt. On classes especially soldier who lays flat on the ground and the hitbox is dead center it makes it 10X funnier when people glance over you

[@pheldsparr]

We need to call this the Coff Trot

[@steampunk1902]

like i always say ¨TF2 player not only never look up but also NEVER TURN AROUND¨

[@glitchisinthis]

smart idea using VR to present the idea

[@PsychoKern]

*BOX TAUNT WAS RELEASED BACK IN 2015? WHAT A FFFFFFFFFF MAN*

[@skeletorthebest7204]

motion tracked soldier bot model is an interesting way of presenting things

[@AngrySeal8232]

First, we got thr boxtrot spy; Now, we got the Possum Boxtrot!

[@nicreven]

Oh I love the soldier robot animations (I know it's not hand animated but it's still really really cool)

[@nathancobabe996]

on oddysey the last point can be blocked by going to the panel of lights on the far corner fot he capture point and laying down. your head just stops the capture.

[@Michael-f9f4d]

This guy does the thing where an animated character does moving stuff but is actually animated good

[@Sonic.exe_uwu666]

2:32 Medic:...vat ze hell? Sniper:aree you BLOODY KIDDIN ME!?

[@gbjsyzftbcacjyfubjygkgcjae3182]

vr soldier bot will heal me

[@mavolent6332]

they only found you out because speaking displays a icon above your head so that's that, otherwise you've capped that medieval mode

[@MoreCreemSmile]

That's only if all-talk is enabled, otherwise they can't see the speech icon. I just think they wisened up haha

[@pixel3303]

Only on community servers

[@southerncross9486]

Muselk from 9 years ago Nostalgia

[@kentuckyfriedsocks4384]

i rly like the editing and sfm bits

[@Worlds_Worst_Artist]

This trick is even better during scream fortress, where every map is covered with Halloween decorations

[@werybigmonk]

Box is bugged. Half of the time I see spy crouched with his gun or knife pointing back at him. But coffin taunt is rare, usually works, and even if it doesn't spy just looks like a corpse on the ground.

[@djsigmann]

I've seen a spy successfully do this on sharkbay before, I was running around for a good 30 seconds wondering why the cap wasn't working.

[@Gust_The_Man]

I like the robot soldier animation you made, was that you in vr chat using the robot soldier model?

[@MoreCreemSmile]

yep exactly right

[@Gust_The_Man]

@@MoreCreemSmile cool

[@TalesofDrCreepYPasta]

I think this strategy should be nicknamed the "Coffin Trotter".

[@noahzeiler-vo6gy]

Crypt Creeper is even better on Scream Fortress

[@nathaniel1911]

9:37 you hace alerted the swarm

[@mainsails2892]

My team attacking got absolutely japed by a spy on upward in that exact spot for like 3 minutes, laughed hard when I found him

[@PercivalOppliger]

I just envision the spy sticking his finger out of the coffin and holding the cart back

[@ironici]

The VR avatar for use in this video is next level. Changing the game