Avatar Debates: Was Zaheer Right? | The Legend of Korra

Zaheer describes himself as an anarchist and aimed to take down all forms of governments, tyrants and idols - none moreso than Avatar Korra herself. Did he go about it in the right way? Absolutely not. But there might just be some truth behind the core values of his mission. Let's find out! Here's Avatar Debates: Was Zaheer Right?
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[@Pilachio]

Honestly Zaheer and his squad had big main character energy. The dynamics between the members felt like they were great team mates. Wish we had seen more of them.

[@erickkisreal9398]

imagine if team Zaheer switched places with team avatar in ATLA and becomes the avatar

[@corrinflakes9659]

Red Lotus feels like a shonen MC gang who had long since completed their series run.

[@marktwayne9796]

I disagree. Half of their members barely spoke to one another onscreen. P'Li never spoke personally to Ghazan and had a very one-sided conversation with Ming-Hua. It was always Zaheer and P'Li and Ghazan and Ming-Hua being paired off and rarely interacting with the other two.

[@dspace4514]

While I don't agree with him, I do believe he made a great point about the White Lotus. With it going public, it lost its purpose. And since Zaheer likes quoting someone so much, this reminds me of a quote from Iroh. "It is important to draw wisdom from many different places. If you take it from only one place, it become rigid and stale."

[@captain_swaggin4065]

Yeah but was there any reason for them to stay hidden at that point?

[@dspace4514]

@@captain_swaggin4065 Yes, Im not saying they should have remain hidden, but their action of going public is what i believe created the Red Lotus in the first place

[@Raiden0831]

Not really. Zaheer was in awe of airbending culture. He loved their way of life and their teachings. He sees a nation of people, living freely without anyone giving orders. He sees a group of people living in harmony and in absolute freedom. Then he sees the earth kingdom. Filled with crime,authority,chaos etc. Obviously he comes to the conclusion the earth kingdom messed up. He believes that if there was no government, the earth nation could be free and peaceful like the air nation. He doesnt realize that the reason order and governments came was because not everyone can live in peace without order like the air nation. He believes that if he destroys the walls thats "stopping them from an orderless peaceful nation" he is doing them a favor. I dont think he wants ANY authority because he believes everyone can live in harmony and peace without order, so "whats the point of order beside power hungry people" is his philosophy. So zaheer basically only took wisdom from the air nation like you stated.

[@slanetroyard92]

@@dspace4514 sooner or later they were gonna have to step out of the shadows. But they shouldn't have become servants of the Avatar. Instead they should've made sure that the Avatar doesn't go rogue or abuse their power and authority. Same goes for the world leaders.

[@jedipadwan20]

@@slanetroyard92 agreed cause if they would stayed hidden the bending of the elements wouldn’t been taken away.

[@blackheart4360]

Zaheer was the best avatar villain of all time. Literally makes me think if aang was evil. Like no one tops him as an antagonist.

[@jabalpetersen5580]

Aang was evil bcuz he’s helping the governments around the world to continue to control people, that’s why villains like zaheer came along , that’s no coincidence 💯💯

[@augb.b.3522]

@@jabalpetersen5580 so the fire nation torturing everyone is better then a nice Life?

[@jabalpetersen5580]

@@augb.b.3522 no that’s why zaheer did what he did and took out the world leaders

[@rajdipsarker1228]

Zuko

[@blackheart4360]

@@rajdipsarker1228 yes. Now that's a debate.

[@samalvey8168]

Zaheer made some legitimate points about government and leaders, about how easily they can become corrupt, inefficient and oppressive, but they cannot be dispensed with entirely. At our earliest points of development we have had some form of governance, society and leadership. And Zaheer wanted to dispose of all leaders; Fire Lord Izumi was a target, even though she was not a tyrant nor an incompetent leader. And I personally cannot see any benefit to permanently destroying the Avatar.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Zaheer isn't against authority. He's against illegitimate authority. That doesn't mean he opposes a community having an administration based on mutual aid.

[@oskarstobinski4522]

The thing is that you can not force such a developement in society

[@Raiden0831]

@@oskarstobinski4522 He sees himsf as freeing them rather than forcing them

[@spandan3956]

Destroying the avatar would brought chaos, and chaos is fair. Why?! Because its every man for himself, everything depend of what you do and can do.

[@spandan3956]

He wanted to destroy the system because the system is flawed. What is the reason for a flawed system even in our modern age

[@hulkie1016]

This is why I love Zaheer. Remember the explanation Iroh gave Zuko about the 4 Elements? _It's important to draw wisdom from many different places. If we take it from only one place, it becomes rigid and stale. Understanding other elements and the other nations will help you to become whole._ If you think about it, the entire philosophy of Zaheer is only based on the thoughts of Guru Laghima, totally contradicting Iroh. He even gets to misunderstand him. Guru Laghima had anarchist thoughts, but the Air Nomads did not have a government like the other nations, so his way of thinking would apply only to them. Also, he was a pacifist, I don't think he was looking for a way to impart his philosophy by force.

[@Sophie-mv7bd]

Zaheer will always be my favourite avatar villain, I wish we got to see more of him outside of season 3 of korra

[@LuisangelMO]

If he was a season 2 villain imagine

[@Sophie-mv7bd]

@@LuisangelMO that would have been so cool if he was a side villain in season 2 introducing him then and revealing in season 3 that he got air bending Would have more of an impact

[@christiankasper5878]

Well I think that with the new series' and shorts we're gonna get more answers from the many many questions from the red lotus and maybe villains backstories

[@angeloishere4006]

You are mistaken, he was on season 4 he helped Korra get back into the spirit world

[@charlieflickinger7372]

I always wished Zaheer would have been introduced earlier in Korra. Let him simmer as a grunt or something before revealing himself to be the big bad of S3.

[@highgrounder]

Amon and Zaheer had very similar motives, but how they achieved their goals was a great deal different.

[@afandu4354]

I might have to disagree Amon wanted to take everyone bending and just only have him that can bend zaheer wants chaos and doesn’t like leaders or government or avatars running the world two different things just like what zaheer “the natural order is disorder”

[@leonster9433]

​@@afandu4354 lets say hypothetically he wasnt bender then his point is about as valid as zaheers

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

You also have to remember what Aang said about Ba Sing Se. He never went there before the events of Book 2 because it was very different than the way the Air Nomads taught him to live. He was completely against the division seen in the city. While the Air Nomads only had a council rather than a government, he didn't like that he was being governed and being told what to do. Which is why he flew away from the temple. And in the comics, this thought of everyone, benders and non-benders alike, living together as one led to the creation of the United Republic

[@asharuddinhamid7498]

"freedom without responsibility, is selfish"

[@Zenologia4673]

Honestly, unlike a lot of villains who are just out for themselves, I feel Zaheer and the Red Lotus truly believed in their mission and felt they were helping others

[@otisbrightmediamogul]

This line always gets me - "Instinct I a lie told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong. It means that when you base your expectations only on what you can see, you blind yourself to the possibilities of a be reality."

[@khongten-qk6no]

Ironically, Zaheer violated his own rule.

[@iamjeffreymontague]

The thing that was beautiful about the legend of Korra is that it taught us how any ideology taken to its logical extreme is unhealthy and unbalanced. As Americans, we are taught from a very young age that freedom is one of the most important and highest value sets we can defend and honor…. But even valuing and cherishing freedom…if taken to its logical extreme… is toxic. What Zehira represents is toxic levels of freedom.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

Fire Nation: This war is our way of sharing our prosperity to the rest of the world Zuko: *Amazing, every word of what you just said...was wrong*

[@thegreendragon5390]

The idea of an Avatar going rouge... Quite scary to think about. And when you look at all the events of Harmonic Convergence and take them together, you realize something that's potentially horrifying. Korra lost Rava in the battle with Vatu, making Korra the Last Avatar in that cycle. However, as Dark can't exist without Light, Korra was able to pull Rava out of Vatu during Harmonic Convergence, ensuring that the next Avatar would be the start of a new Cycle. However, Vatu wasn't simply sealed away like how Wan did. Vatu was erased just like how Rava was moments prior. Meaning, Vatu is now growing within Rava like how she was within him moments prior. And since Rava is a part of the Avatar spirit, and Vatu is within Rava, it now means that all future Avatars will have the voices of both Rava & Vatu within them. Even if Vartu's current influence is akin to a whisper compared to Rava's Loud & clear message, it stands to reason that the influence will balance over time. Both within the Avatar. The next Avatar cycle will be impacted by Darkness in addition to Light. *The possibility of a rouge Avatar actually seems plausible in the next cycle.* Think about that.

[@kibordplays6109]

His motives are noble but if the road to his kingdom is paved with bodies, he's just as bad as the people he claims to abhor

[@Stevenabled]

Like when Team Avatar had to defeat the fire nation and its army? (surely without casualties)

[@sleepyallen5993]

@@Stevenabled yeah team avatar never killed anyone known

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

Yyyyeah but you're not get rid of a tyrant through peaceful way. Non violence barely works in our society

[@ssjmiroc3984]

That last line about only expecting what you see, is what really opens up any questions one has about right or wrong.

[@Zigulart]

Zaheer might be an interesting antagonist to watch, but his personal philosophy would never work because it is impractical. With the lack of any kind of authority comes absolute chaos and that is just as hazardous as any power hungry dictator, people want to feel safe. There is a reason why Kuvira rose to power to begn with, the only thing Zaheer's methods accomplished in the long run was create a power vacuum.

[@kingquan3826]

You do understand it’s a cycle right? Chaos came before Order/Authority. Order is born from Chaos. Having Authority means you have power over everyone else. All the same force

[@vetarlittorf1807]

Zaheer wasn't against "any kind of authority." He was against what he saw as ILLEGITIMATE authority.

[@WeegeeSlayer123]

@@vetarlittorf1807 So basically he's ok with a system of authority that the people 100% consents to having?

[@ricardosalmeron1946]

Exactly, ppl like zaheer open the door to villain like kuvira to rise. They are the solution to the problems that anarchist create they are desperately need since ppl want their freedom to be protected.

[@vetarlittorf1807]

@@ricardosalmeron1946 Not really. The power vacuum isn't as simple as you think. There are plenty of historical examples of successful anarchist communities.

[@nothingiseverperfect]

Bruh I LOVE that there’s a channel that just keeps up to date about Avatar even though it’s been so long since Korra. The analysis of the World of Avatar’s political structure, WAS NOT SOMETHING I was expecting from the main channel, BUT I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT. It was so well developed. I recently just rewatched the series and it was wonderful. Glad the fandom is still alive.

[@diegov2631]

Toph: "the problem is that those guys were totally out of balance and they took their ideals too far"

[@tiagocfaria]

Another aspect I take in consideration is that red lotus prisons were basically torture. Keeping Myng Hua on a volcano or P'li in a frozen desert was absolutely inhumane and even the solitary confinement of Zaheer and Ghazan were absurd. Killing them would be much more ethical than what they did.

[@JamaicaZ160R1793010A]

Zaheer had his points. I won't say he had the right ideas, but he had his points.

[@burmiester1]

Unalaq brought back spirits *and* airbenders. He never gets enough credit as being another villain who was basically right.

[@rev0lve638]

The things he did were in service of becoming a dark avatar, so while his actions had positive outcomes, I don't think he was correct. The world didn't need a dark avatar to balance out Raava. Humans have darkness covered all on our own 😀

[@burmiester1]

@@rev0lve638 Spirits need both light and darkness. The Avatar cycle as a whole only brought chaos to the world and disrupted the natural order of things. I can see Unalaq's point that we needed both light and dark avatars to keep true balance. Frankly the Avatar did a trash job of keeping balance anyway.

[@rainbowcats19]

Zaheer definitely had a point. The whole concept is a little overwhelming lol. So many different points and angles to look at... And yeah, I would love to see more debates!!! (And yes, I've subscribed. Actually, before you hit 1M)

[@Raiden0831]

Zaheer was in awe of airbending culture. He loved their way of life and their teachings. He sees a nation of people, living freely without anyone giving orders. He sees a group of people living in harmony and in absolute freedom. Then he sees the earth kingdom. Filled with crime,authority,chaos etc. Obviously he comes to the conclusion the earth kingdom messed up. He believes that if there was no government, the earth nation could be free and peaceful like the air nation. He doesnt realize that the reason order and governments came was because not everyone can live in peace without order like the air nation. He believes that if he destroys the walls thats "stopping them from an orderless peaceful nation" he is doing them a favor. I dont think he wants ANY authority because he believes everyone can live in harmony and peace without order, so "whats the point of order beside power hungry people" is his philosophy.

[@leblackrosethorn3834]

There is actually 1 person keeping the avatar in check. Raava. Raava is fused with the avatar to prevent the avatar from going rogue.

[@ranasuka6006]

I think the reason why no avatar would ever go rogue is because of Raava. Her soul is still inside the avatar and could probably prevent them from getting corrupted by evil, and her as the ultimate "spirit of light and peace" would probably recognize if the avatar was about to go down a path that leads to evil.

[@TwoTymez96]

The thought of an Avatar going Rouge has HYPED ME UP!! 🔥 GIVE ME WHAT I WANT.

[@jonathanbakal-8275]

Kuvira was able to rise because what zaheer believed was false. He created a chaos and made a room for a dictator to step in. There will always be kind of leadership, that’s how humanity works

[@WarmLillie]

Freedom comes at cost, it’s balance of nature

[@denzelboado1722]

Zaheer was truly the best character of the Legend of Korra series. Every single word that he said is stoical. Plus, his exploits with th Red Lotus are legendary. As you grow older, you appreciate and understand every villain in a story.🌪🌪🌪

[@chanw5797]

Can we see this video about all the villains in LOK? While I love love love ATLA the villains in LOK were just more interesting and complex so I would really love to see this debate for the others too!

[@a.jthomas6132]

Toph is right about one thing: All of korra's enemies are basically individuals who wanted to changed the world for the better. but the problem is people like Amon, Unalog, Zaheer, and Kuvira are totally out of balanced, and they have taken their ideologies way too far.

[@ShadowMomchi-PhoeniexELj-ir6vo]

almost cross the line.

[@08415]

his intentions were noble and he was right in a few cases about corrupt and/or incompetent leaders but overall Zaheer went too far and only made things worse as we saw in book 4

[@BlazerK1914]

Zaheer and the Red Lotus are the Anti-Team Avatar.

[@leebooon1729]

two letters and an exclamation point later... NO!

[@onceaccount]

Exactly

[@strataggamer5154]

A perfectly written villain

[@Phobos_95]

Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that there is an official animated scene of Zaheer prank calling Vaatu?

[@mr._unchained]

😂😂

[@dekuavatar8777]

Unalaq became corrupt for his cause He felt alone and though that he was the only one who can bring spirits and people together And felt the becoming the dark avatar would undone wans spirit world closing.

[@jasminegobuster3847]

For avatar fans i have question for you all: Which one is better The last airbender movie or legend of korra season 2 Both are hated by many avatar fans

[@Avatar_H4M]

Movie

[@nexusshark]

LOK, easily.

[@destiny3992]

Lok season 2

[@TMtheScratcher]

well, the second season was the setup for the greatest of all time. Without the events happening in season 2, season 3 would had a much different start. Altough, there's a lot, that should have been noticed during the editing of the script for season 2 and should have been rewritten

[@TwoTymez96]

LOK S2 easily.

[@jerryjiang6009]

The Avatar can't really go rogue, cuz you know Raava nagging at them inside their heads 24/7?

[@Evangeline-V1]

This made me want to see an avatar who is corrupted for a tyrant's interest, just for a short time.

[@mustafabess7899]

Mannnnn your unbelievable the way you put that quote at the end like that

[@bugraesin4653]

He wanted to make the world better in his way. After all these things, he still helped Korra. Despite everything, he behaved very noble.

[@kaininjapoke1hero81]

not so noble tho.

[@kaininjapoke1hero81]

@@conorjustice5148 Nope actually he is not so noble. He only makes it worst though.

[@kaininjapoke1hero81]

@@conorjustice5148 hero he does make things worst. (he is NOT a hero). When he tore through the walls of basing sa He create a power vacuum, I saw he made a lot of people happy. He only does what is worst for humans and spirits. No matter what you think, he is a bad man. not a great man kiddo. He no different from a bad government.

[@kaininjapoke1hero81]

@@conorjustice5148 Wrong, he is actually not so noble boi.

[@michelletran2637]

I've always wondered how the avatar is decided because if its someone in a bad home environment...

[@richardsonrichly8456]

No

[@gelozyg1732]

Setting up an evil Earth Kingdom makes me want an evil Earth bending Avatar in the next cycle where all nations work together to defeat him or her.

[@dvdklix192]

They were the strongest villain in my opinion, these 4 together could take a whole army .

[@OusamadearuBergmite1343-mr3bc]

What about evil female tsundere becoming corrupt too. Zaheer was right.

[@julnercelestin5843]

I don't agree with zaheer's actions but i understand why he did

[@spandan3956]

Zahir was more like the joker in dark knights but less crazier and calmer!

[@yehdard2170]

Zaheer is the only saving part of lok

[@lovipoekimo176]

Power corrupts absolutely. And once the Avatar is gone, men like Zaheer will fill that void and become the very thing he hates.

[@thatjuicyboi8516]

Nope. Zaheer was determined to make sure nobody was able to oppress anybody ever again. He is the last person that will ever become corrupted by power, as he completely stood against it

[@botdbq]

I actually agreed with Zaheer for the whole season

[@lavexismusic7878]

Can you imagine if they did a sequel series with an Airbending Avatar that goes Rogue? Now that would be a show

[@kabob8922]

Raava wouldn’t let that happen

[@MultiFelipemaster]

@@kabob8922 Vatu is growing with Raava in the next avatar, so its possible that the next avatar have a Dark Side

[@Aquamayne100]

Zaheer and Kuvira were the most relatable

[@micoverse_]

I LOST WHEN ZAHEER CALLS VAATU

[@captain_swaggin4065]

Amons the same kind of villain but they see oppression differently

[@frenchfries9880]

Idk what it is but they make the best videos on Avatar series. Love it

[@mariorowland1269]

wErE tHeY RiGhT - NO. They had points but they took said points to extremes. Why is this a conversation that always has to be had? Yes, it’s true that some rulers shouldn’t be, but that doesn’t mean take out everyone that you see for the sole fact *you* don’t like them.

[@vladislava511]

Zaheer shouting recklessly when he was trapped-bent was completely out of character for him, even if he was defeated. He lost P'Li and managed to remain serene, and remained years in prison patiently, that defeat shouldn't had provoked him in any way. I think they made it to include yet another 'funny' scene of Bolin, when he stuck a sock in his mouth. That scene actually made me laugh, few of the scenes of Bolin that did, but it disappoints me that it was done disregarding Zaheer's temperament, he's a great character overall.

[@Sogeking495]

Amon was IMO the most understandable

[@lukmanibrahim2993]

*You think freedon is something you can take or give on a whim. But your people freedom is just as essential as... Air. And without it, there is no life. There is only... Darkness* - Zaheer *True freedom can be achieved when the oppressive governments are torn down* - Zaheer *When you base your expectations only on what you see, you blind yourself to possibilities of a new reality* - Zaheer *Nature is constantly changing - like the wind* - Zaheer

[@oskarstobinski4522]

Well it is radical but that in it self is not necessaryly bad.

[@tylersmith9465]

He was right about that but he wasn't thinking about the long hall

[@janithkavinda3389]

Members of the Red lotus will live if they do not act as they please. And they will be the best teachers in the world 🙂

[@Hakiimthedream]

he works more as a critique of the current social order, but his world isn’t possible because it is chaos. Humans don’t like chaos, we prefer to band together.

[@jonahpaley5725]

I don't agree that Zaheer wanted to return the world to a state of nature. What he meant was that unjust heirarchies go against human nature, but just dismantling them is not the end. He wants to then rebuild a just society without said unjust hierarchies, not just chaos. That's the most charitable take at least.

[@7swordquanta459]

If Zaheer had a theme song, John Lennon's "Imagine" would be the best choice. Sounds nice in theory but would only makes things worse

[@Che-jn9oi]

I wasn’t the biggest fan of LOK. I thought the show was OK overall. But Zaheer…….ZAHEER IS BY FAR ONE OF THE COOLEST CHARACTERS IN BOTH AVATAR SERIES!!

[@jmcamacho21]

Inch resting final point there 🤔🤔👁👁

[@BigBoyyNZ]

He was the best villain tbh. He and his team complimented each other so well that they frightened Zuko

[@murillomesmo8189]

The only reason Zaheer was not completely right is because the writers didn't wanted to. He was closer to being right than anyone else ever in the series

[@potato-we1km]

When a KZbin channel about a kid's show teaches Social Studies and real world issues better than most books given to students

[@heathertoomey7068]

He should have just made the Red Lotus be the check and balance for the Avatar

[@emmanuel3416]

Lol like they would defeat the Avatar esp if it was Aang

[@yoseffilimon438]

5:23 when I saw this question, I thought to myself,"You're dead"

[@jellybean2777]

8:18 a North Korea law

[@kevinxiao0]

Zaheers advice could also be used to denigrate him and his group

[@arjentromp12]

Someone is always gonna be in charge, if it isn't decided through politics or royalty it would be decided base on who has the biggest stick

[@slowlypassingaway1285]

This is video is such a cool concept

[@RobotMetalhead]

The fact that they got Henry Rollins himself to voice Zaheer is pretty cool. One of the many reasons I think he's the best villain in the series.

[@issavirgo4838]

As with all ideologies for it to work everyone has to be honourable and understand natural law and not operating from fear

[@misterdoctor308]

He was right to be annoyed at the way the white lotus being not so secretive. I wouldn't say his methods or wanting to end the Avatar cycle were right

[@marcio_franca_geo]

He was wrong but there are too many People wrong that do zaher look right.

[@2009samiy]

5:57 Sounds Like a Country we know

[@MessiahKnight]

The red lotus was the Main cast of Korra Season 3

[@sansukanaka]

I'm pretty sure the avatar cant be corrupted because not any random can be born as the avatar. I'm sure the spirit choses the vessel, somehow knowing who will have a strong will and compassion, and having the spirit of light and peace inside you must shape you. plus traveling the world learning not only the bending but the cultures is what makes them more neutral and open minded. That's why when we follow the avatar stories is when they are young, when they are learning and do get fooled and manipulated.

[@axelhovde888]

isn't the whole point of the avatar to be the light spirit and bring peace, I don't think that the avatar could ever turn to the dark side because when Aang went to guru patik he was told that to gain control over the avatar state you have to let go of worldly desires or sum like that, which means that the avatar couldn't have control over the avatar state if he were to be "evil".

[@epicshorts5520]

Legend of Korra 5th season please.

[@mjtubeme]

AMAZING VIDEO!!!! Can Kuvira be next!!!!

[@valmid5069]

Zaheer: Breathes Gamers: *Oh, so like Senator Armstrong!*

[@benfulfer3260]

Please Avatar studios, make a Red Lotus origin show

[@SenturosGaviannus]

Right in letting hime live. so he can come back twice as bad next time....

[@josephcruz6616]

People say Kuvira is Ozai reincarnated because she wanted to rule the world. I'll say she is Sozin reincarnated. Firstly, Ozai wanted world dominance, Kuvira just wanted the Earth Kingdom. Secondly, Sozin said that he wanted to share his nation riches and technology with rest of the world since they have so much to give, which is exactly what Kuvira wanted in the first place. The Earth Kingdom was the only nation out of the 4 that hasn't change much since Kyoshi's era and Kuvira just wanted an Earth Kingdom to be technologically advanced to keep up with the other nations. And we have to keep an open mind the Sozin became evil because of Roku's disapproval.

[@Rayanbari15_]

i agree zaheer was right but did it the wrong way

[@Ozai...]

Yes I was right

[@ERACLAB]

pretty sure Avatar is essentially incorruptible and can't be made into anything resembling a true Tyrant precisely because its the same soul reincarnating. Even though each incarnation is different they have the same goal and are affected by previous lives very very heavily. I believe even with broken Avatar cycles just because Korra still shared those ideals(and its still same soul) its still passing on. Zaheer had twisted, but noble cause. Utopian cause imo.

[@suelingng5141]

zaheer may have been right about a few things but the world would have been thrown out of balance if he achieved his goal.

[@alexiboris6937]

To be fair, most of the governments worked before the other main villains showed up. Republic city was a well run city before and after Amon. The southern water tribe was very industrialized before and after Unalaq, and the one government that Zaheer did overthrow literally did nothing until Kuvira showed up.

[@1038bro]

I disagree. giant homeless camps exist in Republic City as we see in season 1, and again mob bosses and criminal gangs still exist as do the divisions between benders and nonbenders. if it was working, then there wouldn't be such big social issues in Republic City. the root of crime is needs being unmet, and crime is the attempt to meet them. republic city is not necessarily well run in my opinion because these needs are so unmet to the point that people are taking it into their own hands, whether that be the homeless city in the sewers or the crime gangs like the Triple Threat Triad being popular

[@Ssjcj3]

Imagine if this became reality

[@tylersmith9465]

Great job 👍

[@andrushaandrusha5618]

There is only one vilian who is right kuvira he just want back his teritority