Michelle Zauner Questions Her Morality While Playing “Stardew Valley” | Conan O'Brien Needs A Friend

[@porcelinaofvastoceans]

Her trying to explain Stardew Valley to Conan is so bizarrely hilarious

[@brandonmelling771]

I smell a new Clueless Gamer episode

[@angelo777123]

I feel like Michelle was thinking that Conan might jokingly judge her or not understand because she was laughing. She probably knew how he jokes around with nerds in his bits but Conan was just respecting her and not doing a bit. haha!

[@Jason0binladen]

​@@brandonmelling771 that would be cool, Stardew valley was made by one guy and was so transformative that Disney just ripped it off

[@JrRocks-pm3ch]

I thought my algorithm was mixed when I saw "Conan" and "Stardew Valley" on the title.

[@tavasoli]

Haha same

[@mistrdevine]

Algorithmic perfection. If only it were a Clueless Gamer.

[@wordnoise4741]

I know! What you call a double take when you do it 4 times? 😂😂

[@HugoPorras]

Lol I did the same, several times. It would be really cool if they did a clueless gamer for Stardew

[@mistrdevine]

@@HugoPorras no way Conan has the patience for that. But I would love to see him tear into Aaron about building a virtual farm.

[@plucas1]

Conan would probably be one of those SV players who would mock the game as kind of crude and boring after the first ten minutes, then he'd blink and it'd be 4 AM and he's been playing for 13 hours straight.

[@matiasagustin06]

yeah, pretty much every sv player

[@ToneyCrimson]

And i see him going to JoJo mart because he hates Pierre xD

[@matthewmorrison3745]

That was me with phantasy star 2. Didn't realize I'd been sitting there for almost my entire weekend off playing it.

[@PossibleBat]

Everyone who puts graphics>gameplay thinks like that, I personally find pixel games so beautiful and sometimes they can convey such strong feelings and emotions that I completely forget about any "graphics" and I focus 100% on immersion and gameplay

[@jeremyfisher8512]

I can't remember when I started my save file, all I know is that steam says I have 210 hours in the past 2 weeks

[@ghostofamoment]

Conan strikes me as someone who genuinely appreciates craftsmanship - I think he'd respect that 100% of Stardew Valley's development (art, music, coding, etc) all came from ONE guy! ConcernedApe is a living legend.

[@sisigwithrice]

I like how the bear Conan's referring to is the cub from *Cocaine Bear* so wholesome

[@22gjreyes]

I love how Conan, as a confessed non gamer, understoods what she was talking about. It just shows how Conan really listens to his guests.

[@rockstrong4342]

Obviously Conan saying "Twang dubida dubida" has to be heavily looped in the new hit single by Japanese Breakfast.

[@sweebos]

😆

[@carina9295]

“Old Man Makes Younger Women Laugh With Ridiculous Sound”

[@chaost4544]

I'm really glad video game music finally has an award at the Grammy's. The music in the genre has been pushing boundaries for a while and has created some of the best modern composed music.

[@planetaoruga]

I mean classical music is very much alive in video games and has ever been, not to mention every other genre imaginable

[@grumpyoldman8293]

A week ago I had never heard of Michelle or Japanese Breakfast, now I'm intrigued. Thank you Team Coco

[@Josh-wj6fk]

If you think she is cool, read her book! Crying in H Mart is a fantastic book, even if you’re not interested in her or her music career. Cheers :)

[@rrbhaunoch3084]

I've never seen the guest laugh more at Conan's antics...love it

[@jeffjr84]

Stardew Valley has some good music.. the winter time music is sublime.. the orchestral version is amazing... just because its a MIDI track doesn't mean it cant be good..

[@bluevanga30]

Agreed. I play the sound track while working

[@emurphy42]

And if MIDI isn't your jam, then people have also done full orchestral arrangements of some of the music (Stardew and many other games).

[@cwins10]

it's kind of awesome that we have ways now to become fans of personalities like hers before even having interacted with the content that she's most notable for; definitely plan to check out the band after watching these clips

[@johnmarcchosantos8597]

Never once did I think that Conan would cover Stardew Valley... WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

[@StudioHappyboy]

I’d love to see a clueless gamer with Conan and his son. I’d be amazing. I know it won’t happen because Conan respects his children’s privacy, but I think I’d be a wonderful experience.

[@omegadirective]

Very cool that Conan has talked about listening to Japanese Breakfast and "the new music" and now he's interviewing them!

[@That_Lady_Charlie]

Michelle and Japanese Breakfast did the soundtrack to the game *Sable* and it's wonderful!

[@talondiaz4148]

Only Conan could turn a conversation about Stardew Valley into "TGWANG DUBADUDUBADU"

[@ooooswain]

Conan has always had the best musicians on his show. Growing up in the 90s I was always surprised to find out some band I loved was performing on Conan and he's still surprising me with his great music taste.

[@shweenz]

I just finished Sable and my god I love her music in it. I chill out to the soundtrack all the time. The menu music is soooo mesmerizing. Also, love me some Stardew Valley. I actually thought some of her music on Sable felt inspired by Stardew Valley. I've also never gone to Jojo mart and I find it such an interesting point on morality - somehow, as a player, that is so much worse than the murder in other games.

[@jimmysgameclips]

Oh Sable is such a beautiful game all over I need to finish it

[@RushofBlood52]

Can't believe she didn't mention Sable tbh

[@Hravokh]

Japanese Breakfast's soundtrack for Sable is simply superb

[@XOXOcel]

Loooved Japanese Breakfast's work for Sable's soundtrack. Hope Michelle and the band will get a chance to do more video game music!

[@egg0lina]

love stardew valley and always support Pierre's shop

[@purplecowadoom]

For me, the worst moral objection I had in a game was the quest in Skyrim called "The House of Horrors". Skyrim has a ton of places where players are simultaneously stripped of their agency and told to do something horrible, but being trapped in a demon-controlled house with a priest and being told you have to kill him to leave, then having the priest manipulated into trying to kill *you* (forcing you to kill him anyway) if you refuse is not okay. Then (as if that wasn't enough), said demon forces you (under threat of death) into freeing *another* priest from a group of savages and luring him back to the house so he can be imprisoned in a spiked cage that springs up from the floor, at which point you are told to bludgeon him with a rusty mace until he renounces his faith. When the priest dies rather than submit to the demon the first time, the demon brings him back to life and makes you do it again. When the priest caves, the demon tells you to finish bludgeoning him to death. *Your reward is that you get to keep the mace.* Unless you read the wiki page about the quest before you entered the house, you didn't know what you were getting into, and you can't leave once you enter. Your options are: reload an old save and leave the quest undone, or brutalize two people (specifically torturing one of them into renouncing his faith) for no good reason. You figure out you've stumbled into a Daedric quest pretty quick, but there are limits.

[@MariyaMartell]

Classic Molag Bal!

[@autumnatic]

You walked through a fked up house and listened to a creepy demonic voice ask you to bring him another soul... and you DID IT? Surely nothing good was going to happen to the fellow. You made the choice. The other choice was to simply not do it.

[@purplecowadoom]

@@autumnatic Right. Which is what I ultimately did. I reloaded an old save right at the end. I have OCD, so I had been holding out some small hope that Bethesda's people had incorporated at least one way to get out of doing the worst stuff (they _used_ to do that) so I wouldn't have another unfinished quest in my logs.

[@Matkatamiba]

@@MariyaMartell I remember having that mace but I don't remember that quest

[@MariyaMartell]

@@Matkatamiba It was a quest in Markarth, if I remember correctly.

[@chrisisjoking]

Awesome interview! Also thanks for introducing me to Japanese Breakfast, I'm really enjoying listening to them.

[@amberblack9587]

Sonas laugh is so infectious!

[@darkinstinctful123]

The game she was talking about with the dogs is most probably "The Last of Us 2".

[@jimmysgameclips]

This is like 80% of why I don't want to play the second game in this series

[@icessoup]

Yeah the goal from that director was to make you feel as miserable as possible in the most gruesome scenes possible where you were forced to butcher a person with a pipe or bash dogs. Didnt like that director much after that

[@ghostofamoment]

That was my first thought too. It's an amazing story but man does it get brutal. I needed to go for a long walk outside after rolling credits, like spiritually exhausted lol

[@mitsealb3609]

She’s a good guest. Interesting and like a real fan just being there.

[@Nathorakain]

is it just me or would it be one of the best things ever to see Conan do a Stardew Valley lets play type video and get hooked on it lol

[@edelrosario5105]

I love that Conan asked Bley to chime in

[@VidalMoon]

"I usually applaud when a child falls" Amen Conan!

[@theJoshClark]

I saw Japanese Breakfast perform with Paramore in Kansas back in October. Great show and honestly a great deal nowadays at $75 a ticket. Cool to find out that she’s a gamer too.

[@gonzaloleon218]

I need to know who she chose as her spouse in Stardew

[@mtrps_]

Yes, THIS IS MPORTANT

[@jasminel7177]

Sebastian maybe??

[@caseyjamie818]

Probably Emily or Leah lol

[@christianvincentmondoc5028]

elliot prolly

[@PossibleBat]

This has been popping in so many feeds cause the algorithm is liking Conan and Stardew Valley. Hope y’all use this and have Conan play Stardew Valley!

[@Amaling]

She literally made an album for an indie video game, not surprising but cool to see her elaborate on it

[@higgsboson9380]

In Stardew Valley the corporate store is actually more expensive. You only go there on wednesday because the local store is closed.

[@nothanks9174]

I hate when game developers force me to kill dogs but the death noises they give them are what makes them truly evil. They don’t just arbitrarily pick a hurt dog noise. They sit there fine tuning the noise to make you feel as bad as possible.

[@cirederfsamot2730]

damn true. Playing Hogwarts Legacy, the sound/cry of the "dark mongrels" ennemies makes it really hard to want to kill them. Also they drop fur and you can hear a kind of short and haunting wolf howl every time you pick one, just to give you one more kick to the feels

[@torgosaves427]

The wolves in Breath of the Wild ;-;

[@jondoe384]

its a line of code in a fictional universe, just 1's and 0's

[@nothanks9174]

@@jondoe384 Hmmm, true. I'll have no emotional reaction to any fiction based game, movie, book, song, or any other type of media I see from now on.

[@besnick]

​@@jondoe384 It's just film, a string of pictures of a fictional story

[@dsnitely]

hah I hear the Shrek Gingerbread Man voice when Conan said, "You're a loser" 😅 Lmao "I want chocolate milk!" kid impression. You rule Conan 😂 too funny

[@aWilson41]

Killing that stuffed animal in It Takes Two left me scared forever...

[@SwiftJustice]

One of Skyrim's most secret secrets is The Voice of the Sky. Walk up the ten thousand steps and read every tablet. You are now a friend to animals and no animal will attack you for one game month, that includes spiders and chauruses _and_ animal spirits. Unless you attack any animal, then you lose it. (animals will still go after a horse you're riding but not your follower.)

[@Siddhartha040107]

Wow i will try this

[@marcus3567]

I never thought that I'd see a Conan guest talk about Stardew Valley but here we are.....and here I am watching this on my phone while playing Stardew on my switch. (Just in case anyone wants to know my farm looks like crap but at least I'm married to Alex so that's nice)

[@ulvha]

My farm looks like a crap at first then I spend the next 2 months trying to recreated waterfalls farm that I saw in a reddit post, my farm looks like 1/4 beautiful 1/4 meh and half of the are crap before I gave up, I married Elliot so atleast I get kisses and sweet poem to brighten my day

[@cuddlymole]

My farm is beautiful. But I’m married to Sebastian and in my head Alex is my side piece. I like to watch him workout in his room at his grandma and grandpa’s. So yeah stardew is a moral game and it seems I have none! But at least I didn’t go Joja!

[@zalcal8256]

I never got married but invited the Sewer Monster to live in my house, so there's that

[@JITCompilation]

It’s definitely exciting when younger guests talk about things that existed after I was born lol I mean I’m fascinated when guests talk about the 80s/90s but we get so much of that; it’s unique when someone talks about more recent things and we get Conan’s reaction to “what the kids are up to”

[@landotucker]

I never married in that game because I always get tired of giving a person the same gifts day after day until they like you. Everyone seems so materialistic! And they never give you gifts back by the way 😢

[@marcinwysocki4342]

The short story she's referring to isn't by Bartleby, it's Donald Barthelme. It's phenomenal.

[@clarafedde8674]

90% of the music on my playlists are video games music. Not only the original, but remixes, hybrids and even some orchestra ones. My favorite is several new games like blaster master, Mario, punch-out and so much more.

[@Le_volver]

I love this. But also, can we have a moment where we get to and appreciate Conan? Seems like we couldn't have all this without the ths dude

[@kaemincha]

Literally was playing Stardew Valley yesterday and I feel completely the same.

[@itchynights]

i love video game music. there's a nostalgic element to a lot of it, but a lot of it is hella good. like stickerbrush symphony from dkc2 is a legit amazing aong, so heartfelt. one game that's really great for game music oddly enough is ssbu. sooo many songs from so many games and eras. you get like king k rool and solid snake clobering each other tona tune from megaman or kirby and the music still works. very versatile as a genre, gaming music

[@Aeiouaaaaaaaaa]

I haven’t gotten the chance to play Sable but I loved the ost by Japanese Breakfast, very cool to find out at the end of the clip that this is who it was

[@Soulzjd2]

@3:22 made me think of "That's the cutest F thing I've ever seen" meme/video :)

[@johnpo2]

Conan better watch out Stardew Valley pulls you in for a 10 minute session and tye next thing you know, it's the next day and you restored the rec center and have all townsfolk at 10 stars

[@varshaiyer9395]

Video game music changed my outlook in music in more ways than one. They are very underrated.

[@arcturionblade1077]

Video games these days have full on production values that would rival big budget box office movies, to include their music soundtracks. Nobuo Uematsu from the Final Fantasy RPG series is one of the most profilic and well known master composers. Up and coming composers like Yasunori Nishiki and his fantastic work on the Octopath Traveler I and II games is another great example (sorry and nothing against Red Dead Redemption 2; but Octopath Traveler should've won for best soundtrack, IMHO). Composer Harry Gregson-Williams has worked on both video games (Metal Gear Solid series) and feature films too. Lots of great examples. Wonderful to know that Japanese Breakfast is breaking into the video game medium too.

[@June-mi9th]

Two of my Favorites Coco+Stardew

[@jellyfiredragon]

I've started playing Sable recently, and I absolutely love the soundtrack.

[@zmvpainting]

Heard Japanese Breakfast on an Indy station near me. Now a fan!

[@GrayHairedGamer]

Thwang! (thubiduh-dubiduh-dubiduh) is my favorite song from Japanese Breakfast too.

[@RickySama240]

A great discussion!~ I always loved music and songs embedded in video games. I listen to them almost daily!~ 😇🎵🎶

[@marcoagorozco]

The animal thing I really relate to, everyone can die and I can be fine… but as soon as an animal gets hurt I WANT TO GET REVENGE!

[@tracys169]

To be fair, Joja mart doesn't sell his seeds cheaper than Pierre's shop so for me it's easier to just buy at Pierre's in SDV. Also Pierre actually wants to expand and eliminate competition, so he's not aspiring to keep it locale and small per se, he wants to be 'bigger' and 'richer.' SDV is actually more interesting for me, as it has this darker side to the farming simulation game...

[@joew8438]

There was a quest in World of Warcraft WOLK expansion where you had to torture a war prisoner for information and then later execute him. I suspect the developers literally released the quest as a social experiment to see how many players would complete the torture task, and then the execution task, versus walk away and do something else. Of course, that's in the context of a game where literally the entire game is about killing creatures and robbing them of their belongings, but somehow the torture of a prisoner seemed to have so much higher moral stakes.

[@Raida7]

I love seeing guests just get cracked up by Conan on the podcast, so much freedom to be funny

[@FreyaPika]

I feel incredibly proud for ConcernedApe as an avid SV player 💓💓

[@allenwalsh1180]

I remember there being one of those Call of Duty games where they have you shoot up an airport of civilians. Nevermind that you shoot people like crazy left and right in those games, but suddenly when you're shooting a group of defenseless and frightened people. That messed with me.

[@icessoup]

Yeah MW2, the airport. I actually kinda stopped playing after that lol, hated that scene.

[@LycanLink]

Little does Conan realize, there are countless beloved VG musicians, like Koji Kondo, Toru Minegishi, Grant Kirkhope, Jake Kaufman, David Wise, Yasunori Mistuda, and Crush 40, just to name a few.

[@Mowmauf]

Nobuo uematsu

[@pixelbrushcafe6531]

Disasterpiece!

[@slothguy_]

conan is the only talkshow host I stand

[@blinkerz4676]

8:00 conan still got it!!

[@KennyG881]

The Mass Effect trilogy definitely made me think about my morality

[@paulgerg6879]

The Japanese Breakfast website has an old fashioned text pc game based on the band. I think all bands should do this.

[@DougWIngate]

producers: right Mr O'Brien, just do a normal interview question, don't escalate things too quickly Conan: gotcha 1 minute later: *I hear pac man's voice when I'm trying to have sex*

[@gamdanyunizar7849]

Is there a full duration video format of this podcast?

[@CREEPYNEWSTEAM]

I love this!!!

[@fredbyoutubing]

The music industry should really take notice of video game music. Next to movies, it's the one medium where every genre are used. some genres that would be dying otherwise and others being created. Talented artists often give their outmost best for games that won't be played a few years later. Divinity Original Sins 2, Child of Light, Cyberpunk 2077 to name a few of my favorites.

[@Icember1]

The production on Thwang Thubita Dubita Dubita was really ahead of it's time.

[@elvenoormg5919]

3:15 Is she talking about Metin 2?

[@dolenir]

I really get it. I only ran from the bounty hunters in RDR2 when they brought dogs, cause I didn't want to kill them

[@sudhirkumarmandavi3726]

Stardew Valley took great chunk of my life time

[@sickturret3587]

3:20 i like watching a jewish/korean musician talking about dogs in the vidya. thanks for recommending me this youtube.

[@josiahferrell5022]

For anyone wishing to explore "questioning your morality" in videogames, the Witcher is a good series to look into. Although, some people find the first two games a bit outdated in terms of the actual moment-to-moment gameplay, so keep that in mind.

[@pexfmezccle]

i wonder which OST Conan's son listens to

[@sbubbt2318]

splatoon

[@cleverman383]

Ms Pac Man

[@cheers2023]

I love the music from stardew valley.

[@claud3237]

Wow this is incredible, my 2 favourite people

[@ubanman]

Where can I watch the complete video podcast? :)

[@AppleJackApple]

A drinking game: take a shot when anyone says "like"

[@coldfito]

Stardew Valley made quarantine more bearable for me

[@CenKyne]

Imagine all the amazing game composers, like nobou uaematsu or Jeremy Soule :p

[@gamersthumbs4673]

I never thought someone would try to explain Stardew Valley and The Last of us in the same paragraph. lol

[@sweebos]

8 bit video game music was rad

[@alexc119]

I would love to see Conan reacting to RRR, it seems like something he’d enjoy

[@TheSinlessAssassin]

Conan just ain't complete without Sona laughing her lungs out now.

[@curtislinden9297]

Does anyone know the book Conan is talking about, the sopranos book?

[@ryanmarc1853]

I'd like to hear Conan listen to like Keiki Kobayashi of Ace Combat fame, some of the best video game music(some of the best music) available.

[@criticallol3039]

I look forward to hearing the hit Grammy award winning single "THWANG! (Thubba-da-dubba-da-dubba-da-dubba-da)"

[@lachauntiswashington231]

this is great🤣🤣🤣

[@freshpulp112]

3:35 I think he watched Cocaine Bear

[@fireaza]

_Spec Ops: The Line_ is an interesting example of a game that comments on the sheer amount of meaningless bloodshed in most shooters. It presents itself as being just another "Oo-rah! Shoot all the brown people!" military shooter. But it's only towards the end of the game that you suddenly have the rug pulled out from under you. The game knows that you're here for the hero fantasy and all the atrocities you've committed weren't in service of "the greater good" but rather because of your own ego.

[@sebo641]

I dont think ive ever felt disappointed watching or listening to sth from Conan. And ive been listening for almost a decade

[@7Kibz]

Conan would probably like Red dead 2 since you play as legit bad guys but almost everyone in the crew is likeable

[@ben-wg9se]

I remember him saying in an earlier episode I think talking to Jack Black that he gave his son and his friend the components to make a gaming PC for him so he could try red dead redemption. Because he thought he would enjoy it, but I haven't heard if he's followed through on it

[@cafe9926]

conan bachelor mod is THIS close of being real

[@Darexred]

I just came here to check , if is it really stardew valley and conan .. Wow

[@AnimeIntroStyles4]

I don’t know why, and I may never know why, but Conan and video games and I click. Btw Conan, if you started doing kpop content, your videos would probably explode.

[@timebandit1266]

Stardew Valley is much more than a game its a piece of mind.

[@sergelysak]

Same, I refused to go to the corporate supermarket despite the lower prices!