Dodge Charger Police Car: Will it Rally?

[@sumwunudontknow]

The day cops start pulling ABS fuses and driving like Wyatt is gonna be a scary day.

[@piciu256]

On pavement abs actually helps.

[@X340n]

@@piciu256 it depends on the driver. Some people have crazy brake pedal control that an abs module can not match.

[@CarlosGarcia-ze6rt]

@@X340n maybe with old ABS systems, but the newer ones are far better than any person can be, just like newer automatic transmissions. Sad but true :(

[@piciu256]

@@X340n bullshit, there were some studies on that, they tested a bunch of world class drivers, and after a bunch of learning the course, they were able to get *close* to the abs braking distance, that was on even, smooth surface with even grip mind you. No person can exceed the ability to modulate the brakes of a computer, which probes several times a second and reacts immediately, also being able to change braking force on all wheels individually, the fastest realistic reaction time of a person is around 250-300ms.

[@Martink9191]

@@piciu256 I would like to see how you control 4 wheels individually with only one pedal.

[@AOGDC10]

One big plus for rallying: Your passengers can pee on the seats and it will be OK.

[@MrCTruck]

Lol

[@JTC-go3kg]

Nag1 trans is same as 2013-2014 civilian Charger .. Awd is also available.. just extra cooling and upgrades like big brakes and suspension.. brakes

[@thehorizon6666]

As a side note, you can get awd v8 cop chargers. Might be cool to see a direct comparison between rwd and awd.

[@JefeInquisidorGOW]

Exactly my thoughts.

[@yeahmon6296]

I have an awd. Much more responsive from a dig. Tarmac, or gravel. Top speed and highway pulls, not as much, so depends on the use.

[@IvanQuaglia]

:O that's sweet i want one!!

[@tylercouture216]

AWD have the horrible wheel gap though and most people don't mind it so it just looks like it use to have to rims

[@dookiebooger9967]

@@tylercouture216 I noticed that too but I never understood why that is. Could bigger sidewall tires fit?

[@CommodoreFluffy]

wanna see the wrx out on gravel as a baseline

[@d3tach3d]

id would do great and wheres the fun in that. plus there a million vids of people with stock wrx out on the gravel

[@KZcheese]

@@d3tach3d The point is to see how well everything else compares. It gives us a reliable standard.

[@DavidDeFrain]

They already did that

[@sugarnads]

Or an RS1800

[@brandonwright6578]

Zachary Sohn or evo but yes

[@kamikaze1827]

Pretty impressive how fluid he is with engaging and disengaging a press-to-release parking brake

[@ancientapparition1638]

I can only imagine the rental car's suffering

[@MitchRiedstra]

I was surprised it doesn't really take all that long to get used to it.

[@Nihaofoo]

I didn't know that was something you can do with the foot pedal e brake. Would second guess myself

[@SMD-si7fm]

Chris M you can also put a tennis ball under your foot break so it doesn’t fully engage, and work it like a foot break.

[@vipe650r]

For sure. I could see that being confusing, as it's such a different type of pedal to the standard brake, especially at speed.

[@itsmustang12]

Miata is always the answer - but will it rally?

[@anggahartoto]

This guy did: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2jUdWSBgLumn5Y

[@anggahartoto]

@@andrashock6380 I mean he did rally cross with it

[@anggahartoto]

@@andrashock6380 agreed

[@cocoworldwideoriginal998]

according to rally america rules it can not. it doesnt have a real physically welded on roof. however i think it is welcome into american rallycross though.

[@adamdrumonde1664]

Yeah Gingium's Miata is more of a Safari build that he takes rallycrossing and off-road occasionally. Hardly purpose built.

[@paulthompson3535]

"It's got a cop motor, cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks"

[@scowler92]

Full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses...

[@spaceemperorkarl121]

@Scowler beat me to it dammit XD

[@rjr1227]

One of the best movies with high speed car wrecks...I'm sure I heard they really did do 120mph (the stunt drivers) thru the streets...

[@tomj4406]

@@rjr1227 yup, indeed! idk if chicago would let anyone do that now, lol

[@ranchurdhimster4955]

It's that shitbox dodge again!

[@Nathan-tz8yw]

I'd like to see how a Crown Vic would compared to the Chargers. And I think the WRX would make a great baseline. P.S. loving the content

[@MaliciousSRT]

Not even comparable. 370hp to 250hp for the CV, a V6 charger would beat it.

[@Zaltic]

Crown Vic had an unchanged engine design since 1998

[@aaryeshg.6526]

What about the Chevy Impala police car?

[@yeahmon6296]

crown vic would get its crown jewels delivered to it on a silver platter. Compare a vic to a Toyota Sienna then you will still lose, and even worse against a charger. Crown vics are not pursuit vehicles since the 90's lmao.

[@RetroGamerr1991]

@@Zaltic And an unchanged chassis design from 1978

[@haardkaar]

I remember watching the evening news in Sweden as a kid. It was during the Swedish rally and some well known international Rally driver had crashed and was injured. There was this clip when the ambulance was going to the accident scene. A Volvo 960 Ambulance (rwd, straight six, automatic. Google it) was just drifting past the camera crew sideways around a bend with blue lights flashing, just disappearing into a cloud of white smoke continuing it's journey. It was quite surreal to see, a fridge like car doing rally speeds driven by a paramedic, when an international rally driver had crashed in his souped up 4wd rally car. So yes you CAN rally anything.

[@sethkio9301]

Thank you for such imagery. Beautiful description. I’m gonna try and find this clip

[@phr3ui559]

lol

[@ceili3734]

did you ever find the clip?

[@haardkaar]

@@ceili3734 No I haven't. It was like a 10 second sequence in news report from the 90's. Unless someone recorded the whole thing on VHS I doubt it exists.

[@oliverhilton6086]

A decommissioned cop car? **Regular Car Reviews wants to know your location**

[@adamhopchop6224]

Is it BRRROOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWNNN?

[@oliverhilton6086]

Adam Hopchop no it’s because _YOU WANNA LOOK LIKE A COP ITS BECAUSE YOU WANNA LOOK LIKE A COP_

[@scowler92]

A GAME-CHANGER!

[@greasysteve5671]

@B. Duello Get yourself a plate of HOT BROOOOOOOOWWWWWWWNNNN!

[@abe2571]

Two things....that police charger looks sweet sliding around those corners and man that looked like a lot of fun. More big rear drivers.

[@Parkskigaming]

I enjoyed the original series, but this is a huge improvement!

[@jalisurr]

Thank you for taking out the music - this was a great video! I can't wait to see more.

[@tomj4406]

no music, good. needs more exaust note & roaring engines on track.

[@tr8G4kaA7B]

You're the car Bob Ross 😂

[@davidli3582]

Test a bone stock economy car like a Honda Civic. Wanna see how well it compares against a cop car for scientific reasons.

[@CoffeeEnjoyer69]

stock automatic Corolla kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZ7Eepejfc-hhck

[@Bob-Jenkins]

Lol, subtle. I approve. 👍

[@BAK3D]

So what year is your civic 😂

[@stevenc2071]

While doing American cars you guys should see if the Camaro RS (Rally Sport) can live up to it’s name and rally.

[@crazyleafscanuck]

This channel is criminally underrated. KZbin did a good job bringing me here.

[@meareweird7714]

I like it, makes the WRX snow run that much more impressive

[@yeahmon6296]

What is a wrx snow, a snow edition? Two different cars buko, the wrx has no chance on the highway at high speeds

[@meareweird7714]

@@yeahmon6296 edited for clarity, and I'm not sure what the highway has to do with this use case.

[@Gchang54]

​@@yeahmon6296 calm down

[@marcinsznn]

Fascinating video! Never thought about taking a cop car to rallying, nice experiment :)

[@jessaphillips2846]

I really want to punish you, do a Mitsubishi Mirage 🤣

[@flashfilibuster5382]

I love my mirage cuckbox. best car i've owned.

[@oliverhilton6086]

The Mirage might actually be a good shout. It’s very basic car wise, super light, and FWD translates well on gravel

[@cartuner9]

@@oliverhilton6086 R5 spec Mirages exist, so they're definitely good bases.

[@scowler92]

Mirage G4.

[@justinl2009]

Also, don't forget that the Mirage also includes one of the earlier iterations of a performance Lancer, with the Mirage Lancer GSR (mostly called Lancer GSR). A surprisingly quick car.

[@jalapenojack]

Rally a Tesla next time ;) Love the channel

[@jjj4888]

That would be interesting to see, except it would be kinda risky considering the battery pack could puncture if you hit a big rock

[@ScottishCyclops]

@@jjj4888 so could your gas tank. They are using street cars in this series after all.

[@jjj4888]

True, however having gas pour out on gravel isn't quite as dangerous as having a punctured battery pack in most cases

[@mikaelgaiason688]

@@jjj4888 The batteries would be fine, even if they hit a rock and stabbed a tree through them.

[@jordanbell4420]

Would be interesting, but its unlikely to happen partly due to cost, but mainly due to the fire risk. Tesla's have caught fire when debris on the road gets kicked up and hits the battery pack. At the Rally School, that could end up causing a massive forest fire.

[@stevewalker3702]

Like the long description of the vehicle in the new format. Huge fun.

[@adamdagostino1283]

can you guys do a ups postal van? like the tiny boi 😂

[@myfatassdick]

With all the doors open

[@deltaorion4826]

Awesome vid, you keep improving your format every time. This is better than the winter videos, I appreciate the longer format. If you know and if its relevant could you add the suspension set up for the front and back in terms of camber, toe, ride height, spring stiffness, damper compression / rebound? I also liked the over the hood camera and spectator longer shots around the corners.

[@imoffendedthatyouareoffended]

Literally had a 2011 Dodge Charger retired hwp car and it was very fun, came with better suspension and a stage 1 chip. Easily roasts tires, my problem with this car, it’s so damn heavy that it feels like a boat in water. The other part is 8 mpg in the city, I’d get up to 40 on the highway but could never get more than 10 in the city. Their also were sensors starting to go out around 100k miles and the transmission was replaced at 80k miles and at 120k it was already breaking again. I wouldn’t suggest this car to anyone unless you have money. The transmissions are pretty pricey when I was looking at them, they wanted 7k but I got the car for 10k. Sold the car bought a brand new Subaru and even though I’ve got literally 1/3 of the power in my Subaru Impreza I’ve had way more fun with it.

[@brysonwells7859]

Must’ve just been your car man. I have a 2013 charger police at 130k miles and 5600 engine idling hours only things I’ve replaced are suspension parts. No engine or transmission problems close to a year in. I do feel your gas mileage man great on highway terrible in city

[@JefeInquisidorGOW]

17 km/l on highway! That's not bad at all for a V8!

[@yeahmon6296]

No idea how your trans went at 80k you must have treated it like shit in pisswater. Uses a NAG1 5 speed same trans used from fleet vehicles to AMG mercedes in a wide variety of chrysler/mercedes products. Extremely robust, high power handling and reliable.

[@pkranz937]

@@yeahmon6296 actually, the A580 used from 2011+ was a Chrysler adaptation of the ZF 5HP30, which Mercedes and others did use. The 2005 - 2010 "NAG1" was the Chrysler adaptation of the Mercedes assembly - a copy of a copy.

[@pkranz937]

Well, let's see. You instantly lost credibility when you said "Stage 1 Chip". There is no such thing. Cars haven't used "chips" since the early 90's. The rest of your post is also crap.

[@Uncle_John_Ai_Xin]

I'm so freaking excited for season two!!!! Thanks for bringing this back and taking the recommendations we had from season one!

[@jmanuelgbernal9904]

Ok, if police officer is as good as you driving, you can't runaway from that hemi charger, great video

[@pkranz937]

Good point. Car and Driver said the exact same thing about them during Lightning Lap.

[@bravowhiskey223]

Great video, definitely like the more extended length.

[@eyecrunchyfraug]

But will that red Ford dump truck in the background rally?

[@asamson23]

You should redo the laps with the same cars as last season to see how much of a difference Gravel makes

[@sansfreedom1629]

Agreed

[@Mega-P71]

It's interesting that the Crown Vic did this course in 2:01.16. Ofc the P71 CV isn't on the same level as the Charger but it's a surprisingly good car

[@MattClare1]

This series is great. Driving school is expensive, but the only pleas I’d go is Team O’Neil. I need to remember, it’s education and it’s cheaper than a degree.

[@BunkerBlog]

How about you take a UTV around the rally track just to see how it compares? RZR, Maverick, Wildcat, YXZ , Talon - take your pick!

[@Bryzgyman]

just take the spotlight off , paint it orange and make a modern general lee. On that gravel, you can really make them Duke boys proud with some nice video footage !

[@Moparornocar74]

Way better than the other videos. That charger is a beast

[@pikachuverycalm5693]

So basically this is American Rally Stig taking cars out and timing how fast they are on a rally course? I like it!

[@DanielPerryRally]

Must say, that was extremely entertaining. I kinda want to see you do some stunt driving for a Dukes of Hazzard chase.

[@captlowrez5455]

I was just thinking about how this reminded me of Dukes of Hazzard.

[@fearofchicke]

Can’t you just run one of your prepped cars as a reference vehicle?

[@robertwest4299]

I love watching cars like this rally. It takes me back to the shine car movies like White Lightening and Gator.

[@ruzzzlan]

The driving skill of this guy is very impressive

[@MrBattlewagon]

Fantastic format and super informative. This is awesome! Now I gotta go buy a Charger pursuit car!

[@whackamolechamp]

I want one too! You can find them for sale at public auctions if you want to get one cheap. Government surplus, city, county etc.

[@kingmercyful7975]

Making the duke boys proud!

[@pkranz937]

Irrelevant.

[@kingmercyful7975]

P Kranz sliding a Dodge Charger around on a dirt road is irrelevant to the dukes of hazard? How?!

[@AtlasJotun]

10:15 That's how I drive my '01 Lumina (hideous old boat) on gravel and snow with that same type of push-to-release foot brake (can't really use the rear brake in my Dodge truck, as it's a hand release I always fumble to find). Although the Chevy is FWD, so you can continue modulating the throttle while on the brake. This channel rocks! I love this "Will It Rally?" series, and I'd really like to see more equipment videos like they've done on wheels and tires.

[@mdd47]

the two spotlights.....I'm dying LOL, this is awesome

[@SJ-cm8cy]

Do the Crown Vic cop car

[@Sciron]

That thing is too damn long

[@Adamiata]

"Whack it down and send it"

[@jacobyoconnor568]

I want a new Team O'Neil sticker with that on it.

[@LuisRamirez-nb6sh]

Wow Im impressed with your footwork and use of the parking brake

[@kmac720]

When I had a car with a foot parking brake (that was never really used) I modified it so it wasn't push once to hold, once to release, you just pushed it on, let off and it released. Actually worked pretty well over time, once you got used to it.

[@fredygump5578]

Nice! Also, if you think taking a dirt road will help you lose a cop, you might be wrong!

[@youtubedislikebutton9316]

Depends on what vehicle you're in

[@robertclure]

The state police are all wheel drive around the house. I would've love to see that

[@RayWolfwinski]

Did not even need to watch to know it will rally. They are fun to drive around.

[@bokortify]

Driving like a professional rally driver, while speaking like a professional navigator. Just wow!

[@Airspaceuser]

8th gen civic (non SI): will it rally?

[@jasonpetrich4141]

I want to see a USPS mail truck, tiny little 13 tires ,no power,giant juice box of a truck, would be funny

[@cestus666]

Thought there will be no "Will it rally?" till next winter and was upset and then got a notification about this vid😊 Thank you for the videos, really enjoy all of them! It's such a pity that visiting your rally school is not an option for me. Looking forward to next video. Thank you!

[@khashayarrabbanian2747]

This one was faaaar better than season 1!

[@NorthShoreScout]

i really want to see the AWD version of this and how that would handle compared to the rear wheel drive. the 5.7L V8 with AWD is my dream car. i want to build one up for extreme weather driving for minnesota!

[@lego4virgo]

I think that the AWD only comes with the Pentastar V6, with more HP. The 5.7L only comes in RWD.

[@NorthShoreScout]

@@lego4virgo i saw one in iowa with a salavaged title. 5.7L V8 with AWD police. they came out in 2014. the one in iowa had hail damage. the HAIL would i care!! that thing would be amaze-balls!

[@lego4virgo]

@@NorthShoreScout Oh, you're talking about the last gen Charger--yeah, they did. I'm talking about the current gen, whcih they don't anymore. FCA said there were 'issues' but I think it's something more economically sinister. And the 'hail I would care' line. Nice.

[@Murica_gaming]

I still think it's a shame that we got an AWD RT charger but they won't give us an AWD RT challenger instead they only give us the v6 gt

[@lego4virgo]

@@Murica_gaming What? Dude, there are no AWD R/T Chargers for the current gen--the Charger GT is just like the Challenger GT, in that they have AWD systems mated to Pentastar V6's. Dodge/FCA 'say' that it's too 'hard' to make an AWD V8 platform for the Challenger/Charger, though I would clap back, '"What about the Durango??"

[@bananas401k]

you should do a 1st gen chevy colorado, theres a model that comes with a 5 speed manual

[@Jack-im2wd]

Had one with the vortec 3700, rock solid inline 5, shame they quit making them

[@cumbob]

@@Jack-im2wd until it needs timing chains lol

[@Jack-im2wd]

@@cumbob I was one of the many who never had that issue, but yes, big f-up on GM's part. I'm driving a Sonic now with the 1.8 and 5spd manual, it's been a solid car so far; 64k miles, no issues. Unfortunately they quit making the 1.8 on this model too... Seems like if I like something, GM decides to quit making them 😂

[@cumbob]

@@Jack-im2wd that's GM for you lmao. You like it? Too bad we don't anymore 😂

[@ChainsawChuck13]

@@Jack-im2wd LAMBOTRUCK

[@FriedBacon88]

when we commented before to go easy on the music I don't think we meant remove any trace of it lol but imho at first I think you went on for too long explaining the car but I enjoyed every detail. The editing was amazing as well, cutting in the suspension travel right after you finished your thought about it's effectiveness. Great Video guys!

[@kartingbeast93]

I've never seen somebody use a foot brake so smoothly. Wyatt you are something else man..

[@jperez820]

do a full size f-150 or some other similar half ton truck

[@diamlierx]

The name of the car is Dodge Charger “pursuit”.

[@paperkiller25]

I liked the More in depth look of you learning the car.

[@jbourgeois5092]

best WIR? video so far appreciate the amount of information in this one, didn't feel rushed like the previous entries great work on the parking break, gonna try this on my sim lol

[@nicholasmaher9175]

Try the AWD V8 version of that same car.

[@lego4virgo]

I think the AWD version is also a V6, but it has around 300hp vs the 275hp. Dodge doesn't make a AWD V8 system for the Chargers/Challengers because they say it's too costly and doesn't work right. To which I say, but what about the Durango?

[@nicholasmaher9175]

@@lego4virgo The car above is a 5.7 V8 , see 1.12 in the video. There was a Charger 5.7 V8 R/T AWD model through the 2014 model year. The current model year (2019} Charger GT is V6 powered.

[@r2ba435]

Car and driver was able to get the police model to 60 in 5.2 seconds.

[@99unclebob]

remember car and driver ,tested a std sedan which is 300 lbs lighter and runs different wheels and gears in the diff and transmission, that is why it is faster, they also fudge the numbers a bit like all magazines, these chargers are better than the ford or gm equivalent

[@pkranz937]

@@99unclebob they tested many Charger Pursuits, most giving similar results. The Michigan State Police do yearly evaluations, and their numbers are very similar to Car and Driver's. Please provide proof of your amusing claims.

[@ItJustWorksPodcast]

I’m glad my cousin sent me this video this was badass!!

[@JsGarage]

The 8 speed is your close ratio solution to the shortcomings of the 5 speed. Was a game changer for all FCA vehicles that got it. Nice video.

[@pkranz937]

The 2020 Pursuits do finally get the 8-speeds, but the A580 is an excellent transmission.

[@JsGarage]

P Kranz Yea A580 is a pretty decent trans with good strength. The 8HP are awesome though. Didn’t realize it took so long for the pursuit models to get the 8 speed. They’ve been in the chargers for like 6-7 years.

[@emin4704]

The answer is... I still have to watch video 😏

[@annoythedonkey]

Would have rather seen a dodge magnum on the video but oh well

[@JefeInquisidorGOW]

Yup, an AWD one

[@UniverseIndistries]

Something about watching the Charger go around the course is just entertaining on its own.

[@justgrayyy105]

Looks like them Duke Boys are in for a REAL OFF-ROAD CHASE BOYS

[@cyruslever586]

Could I outrun a cop on a dirt road in my shity 97 subaru legacy?in the snow....m

[@JefeInquisidorGOW]

Nah

[@loganrash6764]

I’m the snow, probably. Wouldn’t recommend it though you can outrun the cop but good luck outrunning the radio

[@pkranz937]

Not an AWD Charger Pursuit.

[@cowbatboots282]

Please for the love of God put the spotlights down. Only civilians who buy decommissioned cop cars keep them up.

[@Zecrid.]

Always wondered how a 4.0 ranger would do in rally...

[@Teamoneilrally]

Pretty well, the smaller 2WD ones were popular for a while. Same with S10s etc, they're pretty rugged and there are a LOT of parts available.

[@PolishJoe1000]

My favorite episode so far. Enjoyed the extra content before the lap. Nice camera shots. Informative and entertaining as usual.

[@bigianTX52]

I'm glad this is much longer

[@atmartens]

This is my first time watching the channel. This was awesome to watch you rally. I think the beginning can be adjusted but the second portion was amazing.

[@cooperlong5413]

FYI lots of police spec vehicles put the shifter on the column because the center console will typically be used for radios, light and radar controls, laptop mount, etc.

[@pgtaggs5938]

Rally the Transit Connect that would be sick. Great video

[@darylblank1957]

Really love this format. I'm sure there's still room to clean it up a bit, but this is a pretty large improvement already over the winter vidoes. Solid content as always guys. 👍

[@Dj-uq4zs]

I quiet like the revised format! Very good changes

[@binyoming5290]

THIS is the format we all wanted!!

[@schmidty1194]

I love the direction of the video throughout. Great points on the car and what it brings to the show on paper. Followed up with the driving its a perfect combo. Kind of reminds me of Best Motoring! Keep it up 🤟🏻

[@l.aplayz8946]

Definitely want to see more of this series

[@Skyhawk1998]

They put the shiftier on the column in police cars so that upfitters can put siren controllers and radios in the center console. It also helps get it out of the way of certain laptop mounts.You see that in most police option packages.

[@juliogonzo2718]

I used to drive cab Saturday nights for extra cash. Those ticket lights with red/white are awsome! I'm going to put one in my work truck.

[@blueburaq]

Just discovered this. Never subscribed so convincingly. MORE RALLY VIDS!!!

[@chriswilson8493]

Gotta know what a Crown Vic police car can do too! Great vid!

[@bLaCkNiNjA919]

The video I never knew I needed but glad It is here

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

On most Chargers, you can simply drive at 15+ MPH and turn the key (or press the starter button) like you are trying to start the engine. The starter will NOT engage, but it will disable the ABS and ESP. They will reengage after shutting down the engine and restarting, but having them off allows you to hang the tail out much better and modulate the brakes as best suits the conditions.And no pulling the ABS fuse.

[@AllSpeed]

we need a big body rally car league!

[@zec.4491]

Much better stats and quality from last season, real hyped to see the next season

[@jamesshives5679]

This video was so good! Really awesome, I started watching thinking I would stop it in a few minutes to watch later, yet here I still am 16 minutes later having watched the whole thing 😂

[@ThomasShelby-qb4ic]

I think that's the first time ive seen someone rally with a HEMI! you need skills like Wyatt to control that!

[@Formerlywarmer]

Very nice. Great presentation of skill and a really cool car !

[@clarity7650]

i would absolutely love to see more random cars rally like this. you knew what you were doin, your driving was impecable, it was awesome to watch.

[@speedy_g_345]

Thank y'all. I used to drive this same model on county patrol. Ah brings back great memories. 😁

[@rjr1227]

Love it!! I bet cops who might see this will be impressed. Ok now I wanna come out there and learn to drive like this. You did a great job explaining everything.... thank you

[@crazydougthewolf]

Okay, I haven't even watched the video yet and this is already the best idea for a series I've seen in a long time!