I mean, hall effect switches are more than half a century old at this point, but I do agree that the rest of the concept is fairly innovative. I haven't been this excited about keyboard tech in a while.
@catoflado49773 жыл бұрын
@@DamnZodiak The point is that It took a while so anyone made a New design inspired by something Else than Cherry MX or Buckling Springs
@tmdosu2 жыл бұрын
@@DamnZodiak My dad said they had a few keyboards with magnet switches, with the old instalation and servers. When I got interested in keyboards, he looked at his work in storages to see if there were any left, or if someone kept a few, but unfortunatelly they were srapped. Really wanted to try them.
@fitchyyboi3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely bonkers, and pretty rad.
@HEREJIA...3 жыл бұрын
Bonk -tf2 scout
@shakie60743 жыл бұрын
Can I get this comment in imperial units? My smooth American brain can’t realllt understand it.
@xFreSh999_2 жыл бұрын
@@shakie6074 "this right here is by God the most craziest fuckin shit I tell you what, Boot scootin boogie"
@shakie60742 жыл бұрын
@@xFreSh999_ Thank you friend much appreciated 😂❤️
@matthewlim-dot-ml2 жыл бұрын
apt description
@CharlesHydronium3 жыл бұрын
I'm really interested in how these switches turn out in a keyboard... couple of challenges could include the sensing assembly and stabilizers, tho
@harjoat3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting Are you planning to open source your design?
@SurvivorNVL3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting So in absence of springs for weighting, you can adjust the magnets in order to have desired weights/effects, yeah? I'm still trying to wrap my head around this, but it seems like you might have genuinely the greatest switch innovation of the last forty years. I hope a major manufacturer can work with you to get this standardized or something. I need this in my life.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
@@harjoat Yeah, eventually 👍
@marcopasta62743 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting glad to see your switches are gaining popularity
@ThreeToeJoe3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting Got any typing sound samples?
@eightyuser72923 жыл бұрын
Dude needs to kickstart this. This is amazing.
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
Amen. I'd buy it. I want this tactile contactless analog gold!
@myrealusername21932 жыл бұрын
These are amazing, I can just see them being _really_ expensive.
@malaythakkar87722 жыл бұрын
@@myrealusername2193 you can just 3d print them and materials are really cheap
@myrealusername21932 жыл бұрын
@@malaythakkar8772 I was talking more about the magnets
@XX-1212 жыл бұрын
@@malaythakkar8772 just need to buy a 3d printer, resin, and magnets. then learn the cad software... right? yeah, na. i think some people would rather just purchase them
@gonzalotoscano33103 жыл бұрын
When you make a new switch and you send it to one of the most brutal guys on KZbin, that guy haves some balls. Thanks for the video, there's some really interesting and skilled people out there and it will be cool if some get some recognition.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's a big reason why I sent them to Chryos. I knew he'd give honest feedback 👍
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
@Riskable 3D Printing Good for you for making a product that makes you confident enough to subject it to Thomas! From the looks of it it was a smash success. I hope you can commercialize some aspect of this.
@souljastation54632 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting beware, a lot of people now will try to steal the design and mass produce it (I hope you already patented it).
@phineas74233 жыл бұрын
An age has ended and a new era has begun.
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
Phineas: An age has ended and a new era has begun. Gamers: $200 for MX clones? Take my money!!!
@user-kz9rz8ui1c3 жыл бұрын
@@gyozakeynsianism who pays $200 for only mx switches? The most expensive switches for the largest mainstream layout would end at about $120. The most popular switches cost significantly less. And gamers usually buy like $25 switches (gateron/cherry), not $200 switches.
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
@@user-kz9rz8ui1c Sure seems like $200 MX keyboards are still on the market (usually with lots of lights). And the custom market (which is more for typist snobs than gamers I think) is MX dominated for some reason, and those keyboards are even more expensive.
@user-kz9rz8ui1c3 жыл бұрын
@@gyozakeynsianism oh you're talking about keyboards. Any mx style prebuilt that is over $100 is overpriced imo. The only prebuilt worth getting that costs over $150 is the apex pro, which isn't really mx style. Customs actually usually range much more expensive, but youre mostly paying for great build quality. You can pick up decent customs for less then $150, any more than that and you are paying for design, material, and weight.
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
@@user-kz9rz8ui1c Yeah I wasn't clear. I meant keyboards with MX or MX clones.
@arXiv763 жыл бұрын
When production starts I will buy a set! The dampener was next level quite and function.
@AsherLimaPapa3 жыл бұрын
The sheer level of and ease of modification to the user experience puts these leagues ahead of everything else on the market as far as fine tuning for the end user. I absolutely can not wait to see where this project goes!
@myrealusername21932 жыл бұрын
He could even potentially design in adjustable magnet distances so you can adjust the tactility with something like a screw mechanism. That’s really the only improvement I can think of!
@BlueTemplar15 Жыл бұрын
@@myrealusername2193 So, what does he mean by «tactility» ?
@myrealusername2193 Жыл бұрын
@@BlueTemplar15 basically, when you push down a key, at a certain point it becomes much easier to push. By adjusting where the magnet is, you could adjust at what point this happens, and how much of a difference in force there will be. The important part is that this could be adjusted by the user very easily, where normal moulded plastic key switches can’t
@gamcd3 жыл бұрын
That’s gotta be one of the coolest switches I’ve seen before. Awesome to see new switch designs
@shrimpfry8803 жыл бұрын
this was something i thought about when i got into mech keyboards but didn't have the resources it's nice to see it's becoming a reality
@mwcz51903 жыл бұрын
Same, thank goodness Riskable has the drive to see ideas like this into reality!
@Sludgelorrd2 жыл бұрын
yeah ive seen maglev mounts and this seemed like the next logical step
@ThomasBaxter3 жыл бұрын
Whoa. This really feels like a game changing concept I've ever seen in key switches, from top to bottom just a really intriguing concept.
@JaconSamsta3 жыл бұрын
Always promising when you can SEE the tactility in a video. Definitely on my radar, gonna be interesting to see where this is going.
@kuffo093 жыл бұрын
This is the type of innovation the keyboard technology needs to get out of the this swamp of Cherry clones.
@chubeviewer3 жыл бұрын
So true. the "keyboard enthusiasts" seem to be fascinated by all the cherry mx clones with ridiculous names but its all pretty much the same isnt it
@offbrandbiscuit3 жыл бұрын
@@chubeviewer Well, it isn’t really “all the same”, otherwise why would people be interested in them. But I’m still very interested in this design. Much like the guy who built his own case out of stainless steel and frosted plastic (weighing the rather small keyboard in at over 2kg), I’m immensely proud of Riskable for trying to make this idea work. As a concept, it’s very cool, but it will really only stack up if it works in an actual keyboard.
@torpedo9963 жыл бұрын
@@offbrandbiscuit His channel kzbin.info/door/Ssm4h2ccJMdR6bsAFyIu6Avideos. He has an actual 3d printed keyboard.
@davidy223 жыл бұрын
The idolisation of cherry does tick me off, but one thing that I do appreciate and wish was an actual industry wide thing is how all the cherry clones have the same socket for keycaps
@prokopf-93322 жыл бұрын
@@davidy22 I dont think cherry is that much idolized, its just the whole scene with hot swapabilitie and all kind of was sure to end in one switch design becoming the norm. Its not just they keycap mount, also the pins for the pcb. All these new switch designs really only make sense as full non customizable boards.
@10p62 жыл бұрын
I made some magnetic springless keyboard switches over 30 years ago, that also used reed switches for my ZX Spectrum.
@vorlonesque18303 жыл бұрын
These are fascinating and clever as hell. I'd never heard of these before now, but they seem like a great idea. Just the adjustments in tactiliy alone blow me away...add to that the options in height of travel and this is some crazy brilliant stuff.
@osirisgolad3 жыл бұрын
Finally something new, seems actually viable for mass production.
@vanderan3 жыл бұрын
"Maniacal" indeed, wtf
@joshbritton32683 жыл бұрын
Gateron give this man some money
@CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын
Agreed, if he has not filed a patent, or one has not already been filed for this design, then this guy needs to do so ASAP, and either partner with someone like Gateron, or start his own company.
@maximiliandeisz29613 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 it is prob to close based on old patents to be protectable but as soon as something is public no one else can claim patent rights to the tech(in theory) meaning if someone could the switch would be safe
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart3 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 He's open-sourcing it.
@CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын
@@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart then that's a good thing.
@zyytechman25443 жыл бұрын
riskable is a madman, so glad you got to take a look at these
@splodman3 жыл бұрын
They do look great - but could the magnets attract small iron particles over time gum up?
@subterficial3 жыл бұрын
Maybe not machine shop safe? But unless you live on a beach I can't picture this being much of an issue.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
@@subterficial Even in a machine shop they'd be fine. The metal bits would just collect around the edges of the plastic and maybe a little bit on the parts of the stem that are exposed. They wouldn't impact the functionality at all. Not unless you start getting millimeters worth of metal piles under the plate :D
@torpedo9963 жыл бұрын
There are already many switches that use Hall effect technology which means they use magnets. They don't all gum up with metal so I don't think it would be a problem. In fact, hall effect switches are considered very reliable.
@elibeeblebrox10842 жыл бұрын
Considering how tiny the magnets are, it wouldn't take you very long to find a big enough magnet to clean them off if that ever did become a problem.
@producdevity2 жыл бұрын
Dude designed a whole new switch while I tried to take a sip of my water bottle, totally forgetting the cap is still on
@gunjja133 жыл бұрын
I was fallowing this project a while ago. I'm so happy you made a video about it!
@andrewdias4783 жыл бұрын
Amazing and fresh idea. Definitely want a whole board of these.
@metal_bassist3 жыл бұрын
I wanna print them
@carrot35583 жыл бұрын
same
@alxelectronics96153 жыл бұрын
This gives me so many ideas! Ive been wishing someone made an MX-compatible magnetic seperation switch for a while now, glad to see someone else is thinking down that track as well.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
Well only the switch stem is MX-compatible. The switch itself needs a hall effect sensor or reed switch to actually function as a keyboard key (use hall effect though it's better and cheaper 👍). I only added support for MX stems to the switch but I have a placeholder in the code for adding Alps stem support too.
@alxelectronics96153 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting true, didn't think of that. Hall effect is better anyway!
@SonicBoone563 жыл бұрын
Innovative switches are back baby
@OttuR_3 жыл бұрын
ive never been this excited about getting my hands on a switch since i first discovered salmon alps. This seems extremely promising, and I really hope this gets into production. Easily the coolest switch concept ive seen in a bit
@owlstead3 жыл бұрын
I had a similar idea but with coils or one coil and using an electric field to control the weight and tactility. You could create a dampened switch and control the sound by using a few tiny speakers. I don't really have the time to pursue, so I thought I might as well put it out here before some arsehat patents it. Oh, almost forgot, you could also use the coil to power the switch itself I suppose, for displaying options or the LED.
@MakenModify3 жыл бұрын
Riskable dose awesome work with these and is constantly improving. A really awesome project :) And a great teardown on your side :D
@thermalthruster3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant design, hopefully someday we can see a full board with them
@ella44063 жыл бұрын
The maker has a channel, and has built a full board. His channel name is 'riskable 3d printing '
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
I already made *three* keyboards that use this design: A numpad, my Riskeyboard 70, and the world's first hand-wired analog keyboard. You can see all three in this gif I made yesterday (though the numpad doesn't have any RGB hehe): gfycat.com/fluidsevereairedale
@thermalthruster3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply, definitely checking that out!
@KayvonJavid3 жыл бұрын
Just use an electromagnet on the switch housing and PWM it to the amount of tactility!
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
I actually thought about doing this! I got close recently when I hooked up a relay board to my keyboard: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJmwgHqBidqXmck
@KayvonJavid3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting that is funny! Do you think it would interfere with the Hall effect sensing?
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
@@KayvonJavid Yes it would! Absolutely! Haha. It's not as big a deal as you think though: My firmware can read 96 analog hall effect sensors in under 200 microseconds which leaves 800 or so to send a strong electromagnetic tactile jolt to stay within that 1ms polling window 👍
@NickShabazz3 жыл бұрын
Maybe moving to optical switching could remove any penalty from this?
@KayvonJavid3 жыл бұрын
@@NickShabazz probably it also has analog capability too. But man the life time of this switch design could be well beyond billions because there really isn’t anything to wear out other than the electronics
@jacobgardner89352 жыл бұрын
now I wanna build a full keyboard using these switches
@jvniprbrry3 жыл бұрын
Ok I'm sold, I need to do something with these. Definitely can't wait to see what this turns into once proper manufacturing happens
2 жыл бұрын
I remember chatting to riskable about these. Such a cool design.
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
There's something just really excellent about the concept here. I hope a keyboard based on this switch is comes to market because the switch looks just absolutely brilliant. Bravo!
@gyozakeynsianism3 жыл бұрын
OMG and the dampened one!!
@ziting57563 жыл бұрын
This is probably the coolest modern switch i've ever seen.
@dr0ybox643 жыл бұрын
Those are game changing switches, can't wait to buy a set.
@clark5033 жыл бұрын
I need a much more in-depth review of these. And I need to get myself some. Wow these look so good.
@FunkyDeleriousPriest3 жыл бұрын
Love it. Need those super long travel switches.
@Maldito0113162 жыл бұрын
This looks fantastic
@scapegoat43 жыл бұрын
I am 100% going to pick one of these up when or if they become available: Even if it turns out I have to buy a set of keycaps with them too. Brilliantly designed!
@prokopf-93322 жыл бұрын
I see little reason for this design to not go with MX style mounting. I feel like the mounting system is one of the key reasons MX style has become so standard. And its not like its a bad system or anything.
@aleksandertrubin48692 жыл бұрын
@@prokopf-9332 I think the magnet in keycap might be a problem though
@boyfie40333 жыл бұрын
really interesting and unique cant wait to see where this goes
@sntxrrr3 жыл бұрын
So cool! I hope he gets in touch with an enthusiastic company that will help him commercialize this as a product. I'd love to install these switches on a nice keeb and give them a go.
@sir0herrbatka3 жыл бұрын
Jesus, this is a switch family which can be either linear or have varying tactility while not only lacking friction on contacts but also the friction of the tactile element/clicker, AND IS ALSO ANALOG CAPABLE. It is the first of its kind.
@LaskyLabs3 жыл бұрын
This is extremely interesting and exciting. This is real innovation, and I can't wait for more work to be done on them and for them to be implemented fully. We've just witnessed key switch history.
@zeenoh58112 жыл бұрын
this is absolutely ridiculous and i love it
@Czarwardy3 жыл бұрын
As a thicc click lover I now just have to try these at some point, even If I have to buy a 3d printer just for it.
@BadWallaby2 жыл бұрын
hey this is kinda how the old school Tube Mod Vaporizers work. With two magnets of opposite polarity the button is open pushing on the button wont allow the magnets to touch so it forces the battery up into the contact. pretty nifty
@designersmind31403 жыл бұрын
This is a very cool design, I'd love to help out if needed. Either way, I'm excited to see what comes of it
@GusNotSus2 жыл бұрын
Your voice sounds really nice, and so do the switches
@CarthagoMike2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty interesting. Would love seeing them in a keyboard for sound, comfort and durability testing.
@Riskable3DPrinting2 жыл бұрын
Ya know, I've been doing testing with long-ish (6mm) travel switches and low-profile, short (2mm) travel switches lately and it's amazing how much of a difference that makes in the sound. Using different materials also has a huge impact. For example, if you print the switch in PLA that makes a higher pitch sound (because it's a harder material than PETG). It also sounds different if you print say, the stem/slider in PETG but the switch body/sheath in PETG. The keycaps also make a HUGE difference in the sound of the keyboard. Thick PETG keycaps sound and feel the best IMHO. They have a softness to them that just feels nice and they generate some of the lowest, "thockiest" (hehe) sounds. If you print everything in PLA you get that high-pitched "clack" sound that a lot of people prefer though. Of course, lube (and different types) also modify the sound profile quite a bit.
@massgrave8x2 жыл бұрын
This is just straight-up wacky town banana pants. Really cool stuff.
@dorstefan3 жыл бұрын
I hope this project goes mainstream.
@nonnegaard3 жыл бұрын
It would be insane to have a keyboard with a single screw that adjusts the tactility of the entire board. That would truly be something else.
@KindOfyeah2 жыл бұрын
Electromagnet in every switch 😂
@shahzrulfikriy67112 жыл бұрын
his voice is just very soothing
@Supertimegamingify3 жыл бұрын
That's _really_ interesting. that one design makes a switch on any point of the spectrum of slightly to very tactile, or from low to mega-mega-high profile, is awesome Also, have you seen his clicky keyboard? It uses _relays._
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
My Riskeyboard 70 is actually a microcontroller board in its own right... So hooking up relays was a cinch since all those extra pins are exposed at the back of the keyboard for hooking up things like that. I also added a QWIIC connector but have yet to try it out with anything yet. Was thinking about hooking up a color sensor board so you could hold up a color swatch (like you'd get at the hardware/paint store) and it'd automatically type out the HTML hex code for that color. Would be a cool demo of the tech 👍
@Arceus-dicklick2 жыл бұрын
Now this is just cool
@CJICantLie2 жыл бұрын
With analog input using the hall effect sensor you could emulate analogue game pad inputs and have throttle, as an example, on your W key. Very cool.
@riskable2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but it sucks, haha. It's a gimmick. Linear motion with only ~4mm of travel doesn't give you much in the way of fine-grained control. Human fingers need a bit more travel than that for it to be a decent analog control. Normal game controller thumbsticks give you about 10mm of motion (in a circle). However, that's with a thumb-based control that uses muscles for lateral movements... Which human thumbs are good at (for fine muscle control motion anyway). Your middle finger pressing down on W is going to drive you nuts if you try to use it to get the same level of control. Having said that, there *are* cool things you can do with the analog detection other than just picking your point of actuation/release. For example, you can detect *velocity*! So if SOMEONE IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET you can detect that in the firmware and send those keystrokes along with a shift key modifier 😁👍
@RockeyDAproductions3 жыл бұрын
OK that's bad ass, damn I need a 3-D printer.
@juweinert3 жыл бұрын
How neat. With the analog HAL sensor you can measure the speed or force applied to the switch. Finally a possibility to measure anger level directly! Maybe even auto-shutdown to force you to go out if you're too heated?
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
Forget all that: Finally we can have proper slam-head-into-keyboard detection! Unless the velocity is over a certain threshold the macro won't fire 👍
@juweinert3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting Hahah :D And if it detects a forehead sized pattern with too much velocity it calls an ambulance
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
@@juweinert Nooo! It deletes your browser history!
@iComment873 жыл бұрын
This is sick.
@wkgmathguy2183 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I've always wanted to try the mag sep and now mag lev switchs. Interesting times we live in. Thanks Tom, good to see you as always.
@JMKPictures3 жыл бұрын
That is super interesting
@kaitoyashi2 жыл бұрын
his voice is so deep that it is deeper than my grades
@jegus5052 жыл бұрын
i was at work today and i thought of this idea. i went to youtube to see if anybody had already thought of this idea and yep here it is
@thechemtrailkid3 жыл бұрын
These are very cool. Do you know if this is the first instance of a contactless return force as well?
@tunnel03 жыл бұрын
Those are just... better magnetic seperation switches. Insane work. Also incredible video as always, Thomas!
@CaptainShovelHead3 жыл бұрын
I've been thinking about completely magnetic switches like this recently, the only thing that could make these better is if there was somehow a magnet so strong it would repel the slider in all directions in such a way that there would be no friction at all but the switch would still be just as stable. Although I'm not an engineer by any means so I'm probably missing something important with that idea.
@imender92193 жыл бұрын
That would be very very difficult and it would cost a ton 😂
@CaptainShovelHead3 жыл бұрын
@@imender9219 yeah lol, although that's assuming that it's even possible to make work.
@randomstuffbychris2 жыл бұрын
This is cool af
@kyungjaemin3 жыл бұрын
I thought 3d printed magnetic switches were my own idea well, apparently not
@torpedo9963 жыл бұрын
7.9ish billion people in the world. It's pretty likely other people have the same idea as you. I also thought of custom-made or 3d printed switches some time ago, but I don't have the stuff needed to make them. Really amazing to see them actually made now.
@tyraelpl2 жыл бұрын
Ingenious!
@mihay82593 жыл бұрын
unbelievable!
@wp60072 жыл бұрын
This is amazing
@StormBurnX2 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant! If the magnets were slimmed down (and some parts being made from, say, an CNCed aluminum bracket) the design could be slimmed down enough to hold some gorgeous flat keys for immensely satisfying highspeed typing. I don't think we'll ever see anything close to the absurdly thin mechanical thing from apple but given the high failure rate of those keys perhaps it's just not meant to happen, but this looks like a great potential leap forward :)
@louisgarbour27373 жыл бұрын
Wow. Just wow. *_i need this_*
@Superwip3 жыл бұрын
Nice project! I would recommend SLA (resin) printing for such small parts...
@HicksBoson3 жыл бұрын
I have several questions: 1. I've been wondering how smooth you could get a 3d printed switch, are these any good in that regard? 2. Can we get some force curves for these?
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
The switches are quite smooth because the print orientation results in layer lines that are like this: || || (they run parallel to each other in the axis of motion). For *extra* smoothness/less friction you can print the stem at a slightly different layer height (e.g. print the stem at 0.12mm and the sheath at 0.16mm). I never bother though because they're pretty damned smooth right off the printer. Regardless of how terrible your printer is you can always *make* the switches ultra smooth by just sanding them! Also, if you sand the bottom (flat) corner edges of the stem with something like 400 grit sandpaper that makes it extra smooth as well because it gets rid of the little crinkle that's possible from first-layer-squish (aka elephant's foot). It would wear off after a few hundred keypresses anyway though.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
Here's a force curve I measured of a 0.0mm MAGNET_GAP Void Switch with 4x1.7mm N35 magnets by hand (lowering my 3D printer in 0.1mm increments on to a switch that was sitting on a digital scale): i.imgur.com/FNoTSpL.png (I think it was a switch with 3.5mm of travel)
@nick157273 жыл бұрын
I want this now
@Steve-uu7yx2 жыл бұрын
id like to see one of these with adressable electromagnets so that you can change the tactility through software
@riskable2 жыл бұрын
This is actually possible! With a very expensive PCB though. You can put several layers (like an 8-layer board) with PCB tracks in a rings (one ring per layer) and place them under each switch. Then when you detect a keypress you can fire up an H-bridge to give each switch a reasonably strong "push" upwards to provide force feedback. It won't be as strong as an old-school linear actuator (e.g. old IBM keyboards) but you'd definitely be able to feel it. Might even be able to get rid of the levitator magnet since you can get that "bottom out repulsion" effect with the PCB coils. I keep meaning to try it but... Funds for experiments are low at the moment (and I really need to spend more time on firmware!).
@Mizai2 ай бұрын
looks very interesting
@turrrret3 жыл бұрын
This is unbelievably insane.
@Michael-Martell2 жыл бұрын
Upgrades old laptop keyboard. Wipes hard drive. Cool design!
@bahathir_3 жыл бұрын
I want it. PERIOD.
@realflow1002 жыл бұрын
Theoretically since theres no mechanical wear on the sensor detecting the "key press" it should last many many times longer than any other key design. No mechanical electrical contacts to wear out. so really no wear on the switch.
@jacobcar4423 жыл бұрын
So cool.
@blank-re8qv2 жыл бұрын
incredible.
@FlergerBergitydersh2 жыл бұрын
I thought of this sort of idea a while ago after seeing the At&t switches. Really glad to see that it's possible and so elegantly done. Although I was wondering if you could even remove all friction by putting a magnetic slider in the center of a magnetic ring or something, so the slider would never need to rub against anything at all inside the housing. The solution used here is a lot simpler though, and tons easier to make, I'd think.
@samueldsouza87972 жыл бұрын
Imagine using adjustable magnets to change the weight and tactility in every switch to make it perfect for the user
@dpear33 жыл бұрын
Imagine working electromagnets into this and having a keyboard with fully customizable tactility and actuation point in software (pretty sure electromagnet strength can be varied as opposed to on/off).
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
This is possible but you'll need some serious electromagnets under each switch. Would make for a reasonably tall keyboard. You'd also have to be careful with the timing so you don't mess up your hall effect sensor readings.
@whirlingincosmos3 жыл бұрын
I need that waning keycap lol These are pretty interesting switches.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
Ahaha I was wondering if someone would notice it! I actually made a whole bunch of them and have some here on my desk. Maybe I should sell them? 😁
@crayzeegamer76953 жыл бұрын
damn, this switch looks near perfect. The only thing I wish it had was a way to change the tactility on the fly or with software.
@CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын
Any keyboard that needs more than universal HID software to work is a no go in my book, as I don't need a keyboard to say be locked down to Windows to fully work, simply because the maker can't be assed to port the software to Linux, BSD, Mac, or any other OS that may come in the future, thus rendering it a brick.
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
@@CommodoreFan64 You can be rest assured that any keyboard I make is going to have full Linux support. Why? I've been using Linux as my full-time desktop since 1999! There's no Windows in this house (except for testing VMs hehe).
@CommodoreFan643 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting Awesome, the only Windows I currently run is an old P4 retro build with 98SE/XP(most of the hardware was free) that never goes online so I can play my collection of old physical PC games. otherwise it's a Windows free house for me as well.
@MathUDX3 жыл бұрын
Changing tactility on the fly could have some serious video game applications. I think fighting game developers would love something like that.
@Fiend4043 жыл бұрын
omg this is the future
@arcadealchemist Жыл бұрын
This is why I want a wooting 60he
@MrDerpizoid2 жыл бұрын
wait hold on this is insane
@anxo_3 жыл бұрын
would love a tutorial tbh. Also, on how to do your own keywoard
@Riskable3DPrinting3 жыл бұрын
This is something I'm working on, actually. I designed a collection of PCBs for making your own hand-wired analog keyboards in any configuration you desire. I just built the world's first hand-wired analog keyboard (a 6x2 macro pad) the other day as a proof-of-concept and I'm currently putting together a guide and figuring out how to get the PCBs into the hands of end users 👍
@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart3 жыл бұрын
@@Riskable3DPrinting Amazing work, been following your channel for some time now, can't wait to get a 3D printer and try out some ideas myself.
@Melechtna2 жыл бұрын
Huh, this has the potential to have a durability in the magnitude of life times, and if you were to read the magnetic field, you could give the keyboard an analog pressure sensor, meaning you could theoretically treat wasd like a game stick and actually read the run speed or pedal depth for games like that reliably.
@realflow1002 жыл бұрын
OMG YEAH! that too! IN-SOFTWARE key press deadzone and actuation distance adjustability!
@oddspec2 жыл бұрын
that wobble though . smooth like james bond but high on lsd
@Riskable3DPrinting2 жыл бұрын
The switch tolerance is a configurable parameter. I like em a bit loose, honestly (they feel a bit better IMHO). However, there's nothing stopping someone from printing out some Void Switches with the tolerance set to 0 and just *sanding and polishing* them to some imagined perfect level of tolerance/zero wobble.
@LugChang2 жыл бұрын
Really cool, but I somehow thought these were levitating keycaps. Somebody gotta invent that.
@pamdemonia2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@ralphM11142 жыл бұрын
I seriously hope he's already filed a patent for this
@abzhuofficial3 жыл бұрын
Holy fucking jumping shitballs, more innovations in key switch technologies? NOOOOOOOOOICE! 👍