Tears of the Kingdom Minimalist 100% Part 25 - That One Particularly INSUFFERABLE Sky Island

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[@pokemonsuper9]

I thought the Light Dragon was in the high cycle until you start the Master Sword quest but I guess not

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

EDIT: I was wrong. I just compared it to another playthrough and her "low" route is WAY below the mountaintop, while her "high" route is just barely above Death Mountain, so pretty low in general. I accidentally thought it was the low route for that reason. My bad! -The Spanish playthrough is a no-glider run, and when I saw her gliding VERY low near Death Mountain, I seized my chance to grab the sword early. I haven't been to the Lost Woods yet in that run, so it can be neither the quest (don't have it) nor the sword itself (otherwise she wouldn't have been low before I got the sword).-

[@bobosaurus331]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragonShe flies high up until you complete all the geoglyphs or get the master sword, probably to stop people getting an early master sword too easily

[@garathrahl9640]

​@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon Idk, I had a secondary playthrough where I was futzing around on version 1.0, and she was Above the Hurricane in Hebra. I was on her back for shizz and giggles, but didnt have enough Stamina to get the sword. We definitely got to a point I could've skipped 95% of Climbing the Storm.

[@adamhall6914]

It’s crazy how there’s so many times a shield would be nice, but it’s *just* possible to do it without it

[@Axecon1]

I enjoy seeing the failures of this run a lot. It shows that this is authentic experimentation and that the spirit of the challenge is honest. I am very curious when you will bite the bullet and go for the bow so progress on the Lightning Temple/Gerudo quest can be progressed

[@ameliajohnson1726]

I never thought i'd witness someone having deltaV problems in legend of zelda. This is a classic rocket propulsion problem playing out right here lmao

[@SeeTv.]

At the beginning the light dragon flies very high. After defeating the boss fight in korok forest, the light dragon descends and stays at this height for the rest of the game (so that it's easier to reach). So the light dragon doesn't alternate between the high and low cycle at all.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

EDIT: I was wrong. It was indeed the "high" route, but she's just generally pretty low near Death Mountain. In the Spanish playthrough I haven't been to the Lost Woods yet, so I don't have that quest ... -and the only reason I have the sword is because(!) I caught her flying low once near Death Mountain and was able to reach her early. By that logic, she should not yet have been flying low, no?-

[@SeeTv.]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon Im very confused. Maybe you're playing on a different version (I play on 1.1.0) or you're confusing different playthroughs but when I did my master sword challenge (i.e. master sword is the only allowed item in the inventory besides absolutely mandatory ones) I had big troubles reaching the light dragon because it flew so high (above 2000m). The internet told me that finding all geoglyphs should make the dragon fly lower, but it did not. To reach the light dragon, I took two big floating platforms on the Great Sky Island and made my way up very slowly by moving them with Ultra Hand. But even after getting the Master Sword, the light dragon was still very high up. Only after defeating the boss in Korok Forest (using only the master sword in my case) and getting to the point where you would normally receive the tracker for the master sword, the light dragon finally flew lower.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

Ohhkay, I just checked again, and I have to take back what I said ... my bad. I thought she was flying the "low" route because she was just barely above the montaintop (reachable with a single battery) but I've compared it to a different playthrough now in which I have completed the quest, and she's flying WAY below the mountaintop then ... that's what I get for not fact-checking properly, lol. I'll have to put that into an errata section next week. Thanks for letting me know ;) (The bad thing is that this means I won't be able to board her during a "low" route in the challenge run either way ....dang.)

[@SeeTv.]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon Nice, thanks for checking that! But I think that you will be able to board the light dragon when it flies low, because you HAVE TO defeat the boss in Korok forest in order to reach three shrines in the lost woods. Before that the shrines are unreachable because of the extreme fog. Defeating this boss will be very tricky because the only way into the forest is via ascend which means that you can't bring anything with ultrahand. The only option besides Mineru (frost emitters on the arms will be good I think) that comes to mind is attaching a dragon part to zonai devices (so that they don't despawn) and dropping them from the sky down into the korok forest. Then you should be able to get them if you ascend from the depths.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

The problem is, once she does fly the low route, she's staying that way - right? So I would be able to board her, but end up underneath the sky island later instead of above it. ^^° Maybe I can board her near Death Mountain while she's still flying the high route. Tarrey Town is close by, lots of batteries and fans and IIRC some rockets as well. It just needs to be enough to land a sled on her head.

[@BEAThatesyou]

I can honestly say i wasn't expecting this challenge to run into the tyranny of the rocket equation.

[@spritemeister]

I don't know if the weight differences make this not feasable, but I was able to use recall to stall my machine in the air while I waited for my battery to recharge during an exploration of Akkala sky. It takes multiple recalls per stall, in short 1-3 second bursts so you don't tip to much on the drops. As long as you're already controlling the steering stick when you release recall, you won't lose as much height in the transition and it'll be a net gain. Of course, I had more battery to give me leeway but I think it would still work with just the default.

[@renoirrr]

yep i do this as well, though it might not work depending on how heavy it is. I’ve never tried it with anything other than the hoverbike which is ridiculously light ofc but it may be worth a test. The short intervals would defo be the way to go.

[@genozis0]

Attack a dragon to get a dragon part and glue it to your sled, it will make the despawn radius to be multiple km haha, you will not need to bring it up here anymore :). If you don't want to use durability, maybe you can ultra hand the tiny dragon rock which spawn on their back ? Or perhaps it also work with falling star ? Good luck :)

[@mxblueskies]

Ah, I decided to take a break from playing TotK to watch someone else play TotK. Life is good. I wish I had a helpful idea for this dilemma, but all I can do is cheer you on. Wahoo! Good luck! Nobody's doin' it like you are! ¡Buena suerte!

[@rebeggo358]

your first method with fans should definitely work if you use recall spamming to let your battery recharge. once your battery runs out, fall a short distance (not enough to fall off the vehicle), use recall to get to your max height, cancel, and repeat until your battery is full. if the weight is causing you to lose height while active, cancel recall after you activate it (full battery of course.) if I remember you've tried this method a long time ago (with a hoverbike maybe?) with no success, but with a flat vehicle like yours, it shouldn't be too difficult, assuming you're only using fans, a steering stick, and sled. this method would take a pretty long time with only one battery but at least it's achievable and should honestly be much easier than a hoverbike. hope next week goes better for you 🙏

[@flatlinerking]

Man I was really hoping to follow this series and lost probs 8 episodes in... But happy to drop back in and see your work. Good stuff man

[@thecrow_4]

Maybe you should let this shrine for later and see if you REALLY don't need a shield. Maybe the Gerudo Desert will help with that

[@wurtknurte7283]

Couldn't you just take a dragon scale (Don't pick it up) and attach it to the sled where you'd end up needing at after the fall? The scale would make the despawn radius much larger, so you could activate the race and then just drop down for the slope. I'm not sure if it would work cause I haven't played the game in a while, but it seems plausible. Edit: Forgot about arrows to get the scale. Edit 2: Just googled it: you can use a melee weapon???

[@laytonjr6601]

You see him hitting the light dragon with a spear and a scale drops

[@bloodalchemy]

Dragon parts are based on where you hit the dragon. Doesn't matter what you hit them with. Arrow is common because it ranged and aimable. Horn is horn, fang is mouth, claw is hands, and scale is anywhere else.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

Ohh I have to try that! It would be such a simple and elegant solution! ♥

[@SeeTv.]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon I can confirm that dragon parts are really helpful in that regard (IIRC the despawn radius is 2000m).

[@REDFRLegend]

I'm currently taking a break from TotK. My guide book has an incomplete korok map. It misses 3 of them and I need to recharge my sanity, before checking a map online to find those three and add them to the guide book. So in a way, I can feel your pain.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

Is it a "piggyback" guide book? Because they also published the "Complete Official Guide" for Breath of the Wild, and that book had SO many blatant errors in it, that it even contradicted itself from one chapter to the next. Examples: They had a multiple pages long list of weapon bonuses that don't exist, urged the player to upgrade un-upgradable armor (like the Dark Link Set) to unlock bonuses that were already unlocked by default, they claimed that the LotM had max stats (he's actually "just" a 1-3-5 horse-type creature, not 5-5-5), claimed that the Royal White Stallion is the fastest horse in the game despite him having the second worst possible speed stat of all registerable mounts, they claimed that the Blood Moon happened every full moon and that it respawned literally everything (ore deposits and the like) ... it's almost funny how incredibly bad that book is, especially when you consider the name. It's a collector's item with neat art, but should never be used AS a guide.

[@REDFRLegend]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon Thats the thing! Both books I own are made by 'piggyback'! For BotW its "The Official Book: Expanded Edition" a golden book with official artwork of praying Zelda on it, that fell down so often cover and sheets are not connected anymore. That one has everything I need to know about the game and how to beat everything! My TotK book called "The Official Book: Collectors Edition" is the one that is incomplete. That book is dark brown and has a golden emblem of the broken Master Sword on the front and, I think that's what it is, the symbol you see before activating the stones(I refuse to call them shrines!). It has a map that, for some reason, doesn't have all koroks on it. I went other that map multiple times and never saw my three missing koroks. Everything else is correct, like how certain armor pieces, for example Midna's Crown, can't be upgraded. It's just the map that misses three koroks.

[@REDFRLegend]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon Both guide books I own for both games are made by 'piggyback'. For BotW its "The Official Book: Expanded Edition", a golden book with the official art of praying Zelda on it, and that one has everything I need, DLC included and is complete. However my TotK book "The Official Book:Collectors Edition", dark brown book with golden emblem of the broken Master Sword on the front and (That's what I think it is) the thing you must touch before activating a stone in TotK(I refuse to call them shrines!), has for some reason a map that misses three koroks while everything else is correct. It even says that certain pieces of armor, like Midna's Crown can't be upgraded

[@mjm.6404]

Unless they changed it, there are two ways to trigger the Light Dragon's low flight pattern: beat the Deku Tree's stomach ulcer and recieve the following quest or collect all the Dragon Tears. Once you do one of these two things I don't think she goes back to the high flight pattern. (I could be wrong or they could have changed it. Tho I don't think they did bc the point of the high flight cycle was to keep you from getting a certain item early)

[@lephusian]

I did get a sled up there, but it took repeated recall flying (exploit) or infinite battery (glitch). Getting lucky with the rubble is really helpful.

[@Kurea47]

Yeah, the Light Dragon or all Dragons for that matter fly so fast! Surfing on a Dragon feels slow until you lose something, Recall it and watch in vain as it tries to catch up to the zooming Dragon (i.e me when I was trying to farm dragon parts and watched a horn go bye-bye). Like my dad used to say when he taught us how to drive on the highway, "speed is relative".

[@mullet_muffins]

Unfortunately, I think the light dragon learned a thing or two from ESWI about "how to be helpful". Terribly ironic in a few ways...

[@SeeTv.]

I feel like you're overcomplicating this shrine. I managed to fly through the rings using only the paraglider (I can send you a link to the clip of you like). Frankly, I used Tulin's gust but I feel like it should be possible even without it. Reaching the first ring on the ground might be tight but after that it should be very easy.

[@nedwin586]

you might to consider using fusing a dragon part to a sled on the ground, starting the challenge in the sky, and diving down to your dragon part sled to complete the challenge. sorry if you already tried this, but afaik you shouldn't have to pick up a dragon part to ultrahand fuse it to a sled. plus, they are an infinite resource, so also not a permanent change. it's been since shortly after game launch that i did this challenge so i don't remember how the light rings are configured in the descent from the sky island, but i hope this helps!

[@edwardnedharvey8019]

Unfortunately, the solution to this is way easier than expected. I just launched a test game with no shields and only 1 stamina wheel. I was able to just paraglide down and complete this race, first try. You don't need to slide.

[@samuelbchacon]

Wow. This will require a lot of luck and patience. If there's anyone who can do it, it's you!

[@Hanakothemizumiko]

I remember this happening in my brother's playthrough, he hitched a ride right as the light dragon began to ascend to her high route. Another part of me feels like she purposefully spawns near dungeons during their quests

[@MyNameOnYoutube]

Have you tried using rockets and hover stones? IIRC, there are some hover stones in the Water temple area and rockets on the north necluda sky archipelago. I hope this helps.

[@SonicDraco]

Question, are there any free standing Large Batteries anywhere? Because if so, they may prove helpful getting to the island.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

Hm.... the interactive map only shows them inside chests or shops (Steward Constructs) and I can't remember any big ones in the overworld from the top of my head ... but I'll keep it in mind if I come across one. It probably IS a better weight-to-energy ratio to use the big ones.

[@orngjce223]

You get a plane with two of them sitting Right There at the start of Moragia, but it goes away in the defeat cutscene and I haven't experimented with whether you can just leave with it instead.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

Might be worth a shot. The only "problem" is that I would need to test it in a different playthrough, since I already defeated Moragia in the challenge run (the chasm doesn't appear otherwise). I need to remember to check it once I get the opportunity ;)

[@agentzeross1]

Real gamers know the quote is actually from Vaas in Far Cry 3

[@sussusamogus7745]

Have you tried recalling in the air to regain battery? I know that normally it doesn't work but I've found if you recall, let the fans run for a sec, and cancel it, it won't do the drop that these things normally do

[@edwardnedharvey8019]

I want to help. Is there a discord or something? Put a torch or a piece of wood inside the balloon. When the flame thrower battery dies, the fire stays lit so you continue to rise while your battery recharges. Eventually the balloon expires so you don't get infinite height, but maybe enough?

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

Tried that already, but I didn't manage to get high enough before the balloon expired ... even with rockets. =/

[@moyetlicious]

I don't know if i missed a crucial detail but can't you just attach a steering stick directly to the sled? The sled shield doesn't have low friction probably to prevent them flying off on their own if you drop them 😆 Alternatively frozen food stuffs can be stuck to the bottom of things to increase their sliding capabilities, dunno if there are fish in the pool but maybe there's a way to catch one and freeze it in the snow to use it as a makeshift sled?

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

There is only the already fused sled-shield up there, no actual sled. In order to un-fuse it, I would need to get the shield to Tarrey Town and pay the Goron kid to break it apart =P

[@moyetlicious]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon ohhh that's annoying. How about the frozen food thing, could that help?

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

@@moyetlicious The dead porgy I dropped into the water didn't freeze, so I guess it's not cold enough up there. Might be worth a shot tho to bring something from the Surface that's already frozen. ;)

[@moyetlicious]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon oh I think if you drop it in the snow it should freeze, you just need to give it a moment ;)

[@ninjareanne3888]

Dude, you can get the glider down, just fly it down backwards! The timer only counts down when it moves forwards (the way it’s supposed). Unless they patched it?

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

The Wing expiring is only a secondary issue: The main problem is that it can't get down to the second marker before the timer for the quest/race shuts down. =P The trick itself still works tho. I use it often in the "no Paraglider" run when I have to get down to the Surface and there's no water underneath: stand on the "tail" of the Wing and let it drift down = no timer.

[@jpnuar1]

Can “Recall-evator”s work to bring anything up to the island? They’re not glitches after all.

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

I didn't manage to get it to work from the ground, but I should test whether it is possible to do it diagonally from the tower.

[@jpnuar1]

@@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon how about mixing it with your other methods? Since you’ve gotten close before, then a boost from a recall-evator even partway up might be enough to get you where you need. (Also remember that Recall can hold a flying device steady while you jump onto it midair and grab the steering column)

[@RealTal.]

yea da dragon is rough

[@camille8887]

That one looked particularly horrible... here, I give you one of my sanity battery, you sound like you need it dangerously

[@FabienCampaner]

Can't you just use recall on your flying machine though? The battery is recharging every time you use recall, so you basically have "infinite" flying power. Maybe I miss something, maybe you said earlier that you consider this cheating? But it's a very simple way to fly anything with a tiny battery I use very often. Anyway, thank you for these very interesting (and funny) videos :)

[@PodoHelmer]

Honestly i cant tell anymore are you doing this for fun, for content, or because you love to overcomplicate things and get all worked up over what is supposed to be a fun game? lol also, why do you have a spanish playthru? been meaning to ask that one. for speedruns?

[@WolfLink_justlookingfordragon]

A little bit of everything, I guess =P And the Spanish playthrough is because I'm in the process of learning Spanish, and consuming media in a new language works WAY better for me than regular lessons. ;)

[@PodoHelmer]

Haha 👍 True, true. Songs help too. That's how I learned my multiplication tables and math is basically another language soooo 🤓🤣