TECH LAYOFFS SURGE. The End of Coding.

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[@TechLead]

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[@EzraPoundForPound]

The most important question for Techlead - why do you pronounce hard "b" when you say plumber?

[@dishantsharma9204]

What’s the point of acing coding interviews if coding is DED!!! ? 😂

[@kaushika9198]

@@dishantsharma9204 I think He just wants to go viral

[@aaronbrown3820]

The sad part is, CS majors and SWEs are going to think this is satire. That's the really sad part and It goes to show you that you can call yourself an engineer all you want, and have a high gpa , go to a top school, and still be blind to information that you don't like. Tons of people who proclaim themselves as being intelligent actually aren't

[@rpa-db9cl]

Are you selling a course on how to not get laid off?

[@Calbac-Senbreak]

As a developer myself, I love how developers have had the honor of ending their own jobs before others.

[@cagnazzo82]

And they do so with great glee and enthusiasm.

[@bartekn7627]

it rather depends if they are finiancially stabile to do that

[@flowerforsyte5671]

No. It's the BEST developers ending the jobs for mediocre developers such as yourself. Dude the coders that developed chat GPT cash out big and will never have to work again in their lives.

[@CoconutPete]

developers still have a very tiny window of opportunity to destroy AI and Big Tech (from within) before its too late

[@Calbac-Senbreak]

@@CoconutPete nopes. It already has its own limbs

[@mo.G_2020]

Thanks for the free panic

[@john-martin]

Bro this will finally give humans a chance to be more than a robot. Let the robots be the robots. You are not one of them.

[@btm1]

@@john-martin it will give plenty of chances to the rich to get richer

[@mo.G_2020]

@@john-martin You're right, many senior devs talked about this and said that the generated code is garbage most of the time because of the naming conventions and even if you create new software, someone must be there to maintain it. This man just wants his videos to go viral

[@crates12]

@@john-martin The modern era we are in is perhaps better lived by robots, rather than thinking, breathing, and feeling human beings. Our capacity for conscious awareness becomes a liability in the highly developed, highly structured, highly specialized societies of our time. We have been warned about this for decades if not centuries.

[@caracallaavg]

It is $69 per month millionaire grade panic akshually

[@pff1974]

Google laid off their whole Python team in Sunnyvale except one guy in the EU.

[@PyVerse-47]

both python and flutter team

[@sarawilliam696]

I feel investors should be focusing on under-the-radar stocks, and considering the current rollercoaster nature of the stock market, Because 35% of my $270k portfolio comprises of plummeting stocks which were once revered and i don't know where to go here out of devastation.

[@Pamela.jess.245]

Safest approach i feel to tackle it is to diversify investments. By spreading investments across different asset classes, like bonds, real estate, and international stocks, they can reduce the impact of a market meltdown. its important to seek the guidance of an expert

[@Justinmeyer1000]

A lot of folks downplay the role of advlsors until being burnt by their own emotions. I remember couple summers back, after my lengthy divorce, I needed a good boost to help my business stay afloat, hence I researched for licensed advisors and came across someone of utmost qualifications. She's helped grow my reserve notwithstanding inflation, from $275k to $850k.

[@carssimplified2195]

How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financlal future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?

[@Justinmeyer1000]

’Aileen Gertrude Tippy’’ is the licensed fiduciary I use. Just research the name. You’d find necessary details to work with a correspondence to set up an appointment..

[@carssimplified2195]

I just googled her and I'm really impressed with her credentials; I reached out to her since I need all the assistance I can get. I just scheduled a caII.

[@benjamindover4337]

Imagine being hired on fiver to fix the spaghetti code some clueless exec generated with chat gpt instead of hiring a programming team. Welcome to the future.

[@Bytewalker]

even FAANG is a huge amount of spaghetti code (Meta at least), at the end of the day noone actually cares that much if it has a lot of impact

[@saizero0433]

same with translators. Someone does an automatic translation using AI or just Google and then hires a translator to check and correct it, paying him at very best half (more often much less) than a normal translation of such a volume of text. And this is already far from the highest paying job.

[@Kourosh318]

in 2 years time I'd like to come back to this comment and laugh at you

[@noa670]

It's already happening like that lol

[@kimeg7294]

Programmer X Digital genitor O

[@king-manu2758]

It looked like the nerds had the upper hand but the extroverts came back with a vengeance using the tools the nerds created to destroy them. This eternal battle continues, watch what happens in the next episode.

[@Luckywave268]

Revenge of the jocks

[@WhiteBoyMikey21]

NEEEEEERRRRRDDDDSSSS!!!

[@future_teknokrat7585]

Nerds are the only ones who are gonna win in the end. The psuedo nerds will go back to normal work eventually.

[@quocdaingonguyen4385]

this hits hard lol

[@X862go]

lol

[@Gruboria]

Shocking how fast the world changes. When I was in uni ini 2009-2013 lots of ppl took computer science and there was just tons of jobs for programmers

[@CJ-wh7ik]

there was tons of jobs for programming a YEAR ago. I was getting on average 3 job offers on linkedin. Now I get like 1 every two months. Times have changed very rapidly

[@codey1391]

@@CJ-wh7ikI've been programming for 20 years and it's gotten this bad at least twice. It'll come back.

[@webiorg6147]

Depends on a region maybe and what job you find desirable. I am from Europe and a few people I know got great jobs in IT in their final year of uni or straight after graduation, while knowing one language like PHP. There are many Indian programmers here who probably didn't ask for more than average salary, which suggests there is a deficit of jobs for junior developers who don't expect insane money and which experienced programmers don't want.

[@killerkett]

still 7k jobs in glassdoor. dont believe youtube videos my friend.

[@codey1391]

@@killerkett especially considering tech lead is a troll account who makes money off of outrage. it is probably harder out there for new programmers though, but always room for dedicated and/or talented people to build cool stuff.

[@Tschoii90]

Nothing like a new TechLead video to darken my day. Thank you.

[@sterlthepearl1000]

But that shouldn't matter. Because TechLead does not determine your potential and future.

[@jsrjsr]

I love how he promotes techinterviewpro regardless of the topic.

[@denniszenanywhere]

Well, barely. He knows it's no longer as marketable -- low effort is low to post it, it'll take a minute to post it.

[@adil00745]

😂 lol

[@bigcountryranch]

got to make some money somehow. he ain't doing programming anymore.

[@ifithrewmyguitaroutt]

I love how TechLead admits that a lot of the layoffs are management, not actual coders, and then goes on to focus solely on the end of coding.

[@CeresOutpost]

The coders being hit in this first wave are entry-level programming jobs. We won't see many seasoned coders kicked to the curb until the AIs improve more. They aren't there yet, but it likely won't be long. I don't like to guess at things like this but most experts say 5-10 years and we won't need most programmers. We WILL need people who can use the LLMs properly to create code and understand the code they output. The jobs will change (until AI does those jobs too). We'll have to see what pay looks like for coding prompt engineers/analysts.

[@jamessullenriot]

@@CeresOutpostyea, has nothing to do with years of over hiring, high interest rates, bad economies … it’s all ai that generates shitty code

[@DeepfriedBaby]

because managers aren't watching techlead

[@denniszenanywhere]

@@CeresOutpost I wonder if a technical writer like me who writes about web development can be a prompt engineer or if that position is reserved for developers.

[@Deeptunester]

He also made an entire video about how people should stop trying to make money. This channel is very tongue in cheek and shouldn't be taken 100% seriously.

[@MrSpeedfox]

The trouble is that tech has been through periods of doom like this many times before. The tech crash in 2000/2001 was meant to be the end. Outsourcing to India was meant to be the end after that, and before both "visual coding" tools were meant to make it so that "everyone can learn how to program, no programmers needed!". Hell, even the move from assembly to high level programming languages (like C) were said at the time to make programmers redundant. Might this time be different? It's possible, but the boy has cried wolf many times before, and those of us who have actually studied the history of our profession realise that there will always need to be someone to take the squishy human requirements and turn them into precise instructions for the machines. It's much like accounting: that was a profession that was meant to be killed off by Excel, yet there are still accountants raking it in.

[@craigcj5953]

Nope. All the boomers retired. The money that paid salaries was from boomers investing in everything under the sun before retirement. They are retiring now, so no ore investment. No more tech booms. The gen, Gen X is a VERY low pop generation(second lowest behind the Zoomers) They aren't investing enough to offset the boomer retirement. Boomer type investments wont't happen untill the kids of the Millenials start investing....in 20-30 years. So yeah, Tech is dead and will be for a while.

[@whatsupbudbud]

As a dev myself, I have come to the conclusion that out there is a generally accepted myth that someone actually knows what they want while, in my experience of 4 years as a developer, it is quite rare that requirements are more than some basic user stories. Many a time there even isn't a user story apart from some vague expectation. Furthermore, even if the requirements are thorough, often they don't have "reality" in mind. For example, it is not hard to add a new component that supports a wanted feature but it is hard to devise a plan to replace all instances of the old component which is reused all throughout code base, not to mention the fact that sometimes this can introduce nightmare regression. And AI is having a really hard time to invent new solutions, implement complex patterns unto complex systems. These are things that humans will continue to do for quite some time in my opinion.

[@stoogel]

TechLead was absolutely the guy in 1999 telling you to drop out of your CS program because someone from India was going to replace you and you'd be left flipping burgers.

[@garveziukas]

Accounting is a great example, people are talking about software engineering becoming dead when we still have people crunching numbers in a repetitive way paid a fortune. There are hundreds of office jobs that should disappear first until software engineering becomes endangered.

[@manfrombritain6816]

it's been the same story for all of history... people insist the new tech is going to make XYZ redundant. it's not that capacity remains the same and demand for work goes down... it's that new tech simply raises the capacity. the demand for work is the same, because that new 'capacity' is exploited. we're ALWAYS going to push for maximum exploitation of labour because it benefits people. did the printing press make all those monks writing out bibles obsolete? no, they probably just went on to use their skills or natural abilities in other things - faster and more productive cos of the printing press. even IF ai stuff replaced coders, people who have the personality traits of coders will just find a new avenue. training, modifying, building these AI tools... or just using them to be more productive coders. etc etc etc and round and round it goes.

[@bigblue4364]

"My concern here for your safety is that I may be vastly smarter than you" ...... Dang, That needs to be a line for some character with glasses in a fighting game.

[@jonathanlekkerkerk9430]

Actually hid did in his early times of his KZbin career a fighting scene what his friend @Tech Lead maybe do a re-make and use this one-liner?

[@mercai]

That's when I paused the video to hit the Like button.

[@matematiciaplicate3405]

1:50 minute 🎉

[@bakkerem1967]

Nowadays it seems you can even fake being smart. I'll only cost your contracter tens of millions of dollars.

[@Nikoolayy1]

Ego issues at the best.

[@socialtraffichq5067]

This just in skillshare lays off 20% of their staff

[@sterlthepearl1000]

Perhaps because Fate had a plan for those 20%

[@welshhibby]

It’s over for Tech leads…

[@botjabber9187]

😂

[@botjabber9187]

Ex-TechLead😢

[@ZeryusXD]

YT is gonna be saturated with Ex tech lead channels 😆

[@gustavocvieira8584]

Not for tech leads, but for juniors

[@swampwiz]

It's been over for male Techies in other regards for quite some time ...

[@Andrea-Giachetto]

I love this TechLead version. Keep it up!

[@joemac84]

I work at a big tech co in the Bay Area and interview for software dev roles.. While there may be more coders.. It’s actually quite rare to find people that can problem solve, analyze, and code well. These skills are rare and highly valued.. and I don’t see that changing

[@bespoken2017]

Finally! Been waiting for your take on this.

[@s3rit661]

Influencers are rare by definition, if everyone would be influencer, it wouldn't pay that much

[@Justin_Joy]

Where tf did you hear that influencers are rare by definition?

[@s3rit661]

@@Justin_Joy Its common sense

[@Justin_Joy]

@@s3rit661 No it is not common sense. Instagram and Tiktok is oversaturated with "influencers" and they are all obnoxious.

[@caravanlifenz]

@@joim3480 It's true. On Reddit, KZbinrs talk about their actual earnings and even the ones with a lot of subscribers and views say KZbin barely pays the bills. It's like realtors - most barely scrape by while some make a million a year.

[@mukhtarhindi3686]

Yeah he said half and every time he said that I cringed. 1% is overly optimistic.

[@Vinyled]

Spot on as always! Thanks heaps for the daily dose of Realism! 👌

[@woofr5066]

Man, devs have it so good these days, they get free job security thanks to their personal digital servants on youtube FUDing their competition out of the market. Thank you for your service TechLead! Here's a comment to contribute to your engagement, think of it as a tip.

[@chrisdigiuseppe7717]

Best comment right here.

[@uzuwi9782]

Most people think like you so you still will be destroyed by competition

[@bitopantalukdar9820]

Wait and see how AI will kill many jobs😂

[@TW0man4RMY]

The competition is AI now. Honestly, if you're in this field, you either saw this coming a long time ago or you entered just for the money. The "end" goal was always to produce "AI" (really AGI) that could program up to the point of being able to improve upon itself.

[@gr8b8m85]

My engineer buddy's company already laid off his entire team save for four people and was told to "ChatGPT" his way through the next project. You have no fucking clue what's comng.

[@robsal2427]

Thats true. And now if you get laid off, the job search period can last up to 6 months. Its really depressing, specially after the effort to get that computer science degree

[@af8604]

Try being in the humanities LOL

[@AnthonyBurback]

it can last way longer than 6 months lol

[@ariel7590]

It can last over a year if you don't have experience

[@visceralcinema]

I'm in it now, and I'm not a dev, just a digital plumber--devops/solutions architect.

[@anotherlevelofselfawareness]

​@@visceralcinemadev is also digital plumber , dont be so humble

[@adveshdarvekar7733]

It is true, everybody and their dogs are learning to code. And most of these people only know the basics and expect the 300k lifestyle lol

[@devTalks3641]

my dog just printed hello world in C#

[@MillionaireMindset548]

Yeah cause ChatGPT knows advanced level of coding so knowing the basics is all we need and ChatGPT will do the rest.

[@curtmastor]

A few misconceptions. Learning to be a pro is way more difficult and time consuming that all but a small percentage decide is worth it. Maybe it’s not. If you have a great career already maybe rethink because this road sucks and is lonely. Don’t forget the mental health aspect. If you are a people and can’t stay in the house all day in a dark room, This ain’t for you bud. You need to have convos throughout the day? Not for you either my friend. Im point out how I’m really the only one that made it learning to code beyond one year out of anyone I know, I know of Atleast a dozen. It’s like medicine, everyone freshman year is pre med until you get to 200 level courses. I think it’s guts and will at that point.

[@nkaloyanov]

@@MillionaireMindset548 🐴💩 You need to be an expert if you want your code to look good. ChatGPT is only A tool. Not THE tool. THE tool is your brain. If you fill the right instructions and do the follow-up, you can achieve great things. But ChatGPT learns from context, so if s**k at programming, your code will most likely be unusable for top-tier businesses.

[@future_teknokrat7585]

Everybody is NOT lol. But there are thousands more than normal....and most of them are just here for the money, they don't wanna go that deep into it, especially if it's hard.

[@EstherSaw]

Tech Lead, please upload more videos! Where have you been? Hope you are doing great! Looking forward to seeing your next video.

[@Today97129]

Thank you for keeping to gate keep programming💯 your a real one for this 💯

[@CorTec]

I quit Google two years ago, because I felt the end was neigh, I could feel it from the type of hires coming into management and the politics getting out of hand. I had an interest in web3 for a while, so I just started building my own business, it's tough going but much more rewarding and I'm happy that I made the jump while many others were still leaching off the company. I also agree that the coder life that was, is no more, however there is a new coder life now, more industrious and independent. We need to build new innovative businesses for the new world.

[@realfreedom8932]

Very good point about politics, that is the kiss of death for an industry. Look at how people interact in these companies, very clear sign of high competition and back stabbing, does wonders to stress

[@shahnaseebb6175]

For someone newbie who is learning JavaScript and Solidity, do you recommend me to continue or just give up now?

[@sakcee]

google is over....i dont even use it now, I just ask ChatGPT,.....it takes fraction of time on ChatGPT than going through scores of google search results

[@CorTec]

@@shahnaseebb6175 There are very few good solidity engineers, it's still very early and there will be a lot of opportunity, don't give up ! But also think about how you can leverage that skill, you need to do a lot of networking and that's a grind.

[@-Engineering01-]

But you guys earn millions working for Google, even if you leave there you have lots of money

[@Elkcib]

If you get layoff, make sure to apply for unemployment benefit that day. They do not count from the day you were let go, they start the day you apply.

[@jeffreymassey5541]

What a creative way to explain what the "real deal" is when it comes to the "tech industry". You kept it 💯👍👍👌

[@ashishmehra5143]

This will be the only well made and good explanation on layoffs so far. Well rounded evaluation, thank you.

[@rodblues6832]

I’m an adult education teacher and I get to help people every day. There have been no layoffs at my organization for the last decade. I learned how to code in 2022, and really loved it, and so glad I did, but it’s pretty clear that the job market in tech isn’t going to reset for at least a couple of years, maybe never. People centered jobs are probably going to be the future for human beings.

[@deltapi8859]

"virtual drugs" ... dude your content is evolving and transcending. I can always rely on you throwing this truth bombs of mass destruction.

[@therearenoshortcuts9868]

people have known about "virtual drugs" in alt media since like at least 5 years ago lol but i'm glad this is going more mainstream

[@ycy-wav]

the way people act surprised when telling them social media is a digital slot machine 😅

[@judewestburner]

That's what everyone now does on KZbin.

[@throwaway6288]

You’re acting like he said something revolutionary lol. This has been known for the longest time

[@deltapi8859]

@@throwaway6288 no I don't think it's really the same as before. The internet nowadays is very different from back then. Back then it was a powerful distraction. But the internet today is giving you false dreams about your future. Making it a way more powerful drug than the internet before those moderns apps like youtube(monetized), grind-set content, onlyfans, affiliate marketing, becoming famous by being an influencer etc. This wasn't there from the dawn of the internet, it's quite recent.

[@bestechdeals4539]

I like listening your perspective because you're brutally honest and no fluff, and you got authority too

[@yoshiwiseful]

ty for this video iv been trying to tell this to my friends for a while

[@mentalstatement]

My background is in mechanical engineering/manufacturing. What I find interesting, is that a lot of people from different fields are now able to code. I dont know if they added coding to a lot of university programs, or maybe the access to Udemy etc, but people like architects, engineers, chemistry, math, physics majors coming out now are all able to code at very high levels. These people are using code to create brand-new types of applications that are industry-specific. For example physics simulations, machine vision, specialized business software etc. This would be very hard for a normal coder to do, as they do not have the industry knowledge or education to understand the underlying problem. I dont think coding is dead, but i think people who used to "just" specialize in code will be less needed. Coders in the future will need to have a lot more skills than just coding as it will branch out and before more specialized. Coders at big companies will also have to know software architecture more, as a lot of work of coding will be outsources / done by AI and the job of the software engineer will be more like a product / project manager to oversee the team.

[@benjamindover4337]

They do add coding to many things at university now. Any research project will have grad students scripting queries and other data analysis stuff.

[@danikb7346]

At least where I live coding has been added to most university programs. People in science (maths, physics, chemistry) have mandatory programming classes (not just coding). I got some friends who went on studying maths - some ended up hating programming, but some loved it and now work as programmers. My business major (information systems) also has 2 mandatory semesters of programming and there are electives to have more of it. But also CS is much more than coding and people who study CS don't do it for coding, they do it for the "Science" part of it. Deep understanding of how computers work, memory management, algorithms, and stuff like that to then apply the knowledge in fields like ML for example. No one studies CS to become webdev.

[@TomNook.]

It's too saturated

[@kevinmeyer3863]

Underrated comment. While completely agreeing on your point of pure coders not having domain expertise, one also has to see the general decline of the bigger business itself. There are nowadays millions of applications for almost every single problem in this self sustaining IT world, and the few products that are left are tackled by thousands simultaneously. We are caught in an ideology of the IT entrepreneur thats just not accurate anymore

[@jaskamattila4481]

I feel like it isn't that much of a bright side. It just means that jobs are getting more and more complicated, and while I am a smart person like TechLead, most people aren't that smart and are just winging it. A bigger and bigger portion of people are going to be left completely hanging and just not be able to do the work required. While the people working will be driven to burnout by teams becoming smaller and workload growing, done to save costs when markets are no longer growing. People watching this channel should read Ted Kaczynski. It makes no sense, that we as humans are building a system that is becoming more and more unsuited to actual humane existence. All in the pursuit of invisible numbers going up on a screen.

[@nonnoyobisnis8705]

I am so glad (and a little proud) that you have decided to return to youtube!!!

[@budstep7361]

Your ad placement is so satirically funny, excellent job Tech Lead 😎😎😎😎

[@brentsummers7377]

In some ways this is similar to what is happening to features in smart phones. Only a tiny percentage of users actually bother using all the photo and video features in their phones.

[@Desbo]

Brilliant take. Really fascinating. Makes you think about those in twitch KZbin etc. the influencers leaving for one reason and engineers leaving for another. Subscribed!

[@sterlthepearl1000]

A wise choice on Subscribing. You'll learn a lot from this guy who is really smart.

[@N7Tonik]

that social media sucks away attention is very true and should be strongly considered when you want to build some new software product

[@lawrenceclarkbrokeringcourse]

You're great! Love your sense of humour. Keep up the 'blunt' videos.

[@MiaBostic]

You are so entertaining, subscribed!

[@HE360_Games]

We don't have these layoff problems in bus driving! It's a great job and I travel A LOT!! Here and abroad!

[@Teutoburg09]

They should learn to drive busses.

[@devTalks3641]

​​@@Teutoburg09 and then bus driving will be in trouble, just like coding, just like every hype

[@amir-jg4zy]

Driverless busses are just around the corner, then we the world won't need humans to drive busses, taxi's and trains

[@trawsoza2926]

​@@amir-jg4zy doubt it. The homeless will just start sleeping in it

[@edvvardcash6109]

​@@amir-jg4zy I remember hearing that about truck drivers too. I don't see it happening any time soon.

[@Chillycloth]

I quit my CS degree and switched to nursing. Much more demand and wont be replaced by A.I. You can also work remotely when you get enough experience. Also your coworkers will be so much hotter

[@aminah.03]

The coworkers 😂😂😂😂

[@benjamindover4337]

Every woman I've ever known that worked in nursing immediately and desperately sought any marriage opportunity that would allow her to quit.

[@m2412]

A lot of girls in nursing are down right mean. Will make your life hell

[@ivmet1985]

Well, yes. After all, performing a surgical operation using a robot controlled by AI is impossible. After all, each human body is so unique, and each procedure is so different from another that only a person with his constant ability to improvise is capable of this. And where has it ever been heard of, for AI to make diagnoses?

[@Krimo]

@@ivmet1985all this isn’t used yet and won’t be for a long time

[@PushToProduction]

Damn algorithm got me again. Almost watched the whole video.

[@JimmyNguyenP]

great video, I appreciarte you informing me about what's going on. I live in the Bay area, it's pretty accurate.

[@upelsin7822]

he could have been down the sewers, but this guy knows how to sell fear, the only reason for subscribers on his channel.

[@beto.aveiga]

He has arguments and a prediction. Fair enough.

[@specialknees6798]

@@user-zl1yq7qo1d Turns out depressed people are less susceptible to the just-world fallacy and tend to perceive the world more accurately than non-depressed people.

[@mmmmeatpie4209]

This guy is all about rage bait. It's the only thing he does well. And well, a lot of dumb people fall for rage bait today.

[@stoogel]

No, it's because he's so much smarter and richer than all of you!

[@yesyes9698]

@@mmmmeatpie4209literally lol.

[@tammyhatcher7]

Thank you TechLead you are so cool for sharing your knowledge and information. You do have an awesome life!😊😊

[@TheRealWurstCase]

I work as a recruiter after being a coder for more than 15 years. Its ture, you can hire a coder pretty much instantly because there is just so much supply these days. But if you actually want to hire a real professonial senior dev, its now even harder than before. Most programmers are junior level and some even lack the basics but they view themselves as above average. Social media has really gotten to their heads ...

[@Auxillia]

Dunning Kreuger effect. They just got past the phase of being useless to being proficient, and they think they’re master experts. I am experiencing imposter syndrome frequently, where I keep telling myself there’s so much I don’t know even though I have so much experience and knowledge. I like to view it as natural psychological phases that everyone goes through.

[@uzuwi9782]

It’s the opposite, companies want more and more from juniors, even to the point of wanting seniors for their junior roles

[@Abd21rqsen]

personally, I think you have a problem when judging people because you aren't able to judge someone that easily because of just the number of years of experience I see that recruiters who think that way are ignorant also note that programming and problem-solving is deeper than years of experience it's mindset so you find getting a senior hard might be because of your unrealistic and ignorant standards you put so don't judge people easily you can do that after problem-solving interview and asking technical questions and you might require from them a task that is related to the position so you can take action also you can't judge them as not seniors so they might be smart but they didn't pass your test people aren't that easily to be judged that is total ignorance and give signs that the recruiter is not professional years of experience is important but not that much of what recruiters put

[@TheRealWurstCase]

​@@Abd21rqsen look you just did the same by assuming you know how my recruiting process looks like. I work for companies that have high standards and need professionals. I never judge a book by its cover but with my 15 years of experience i can tell you i am quite good at finding out if a candidate does have some real skill or not pretty fast. And like i said in my comment a lot of the developers in round 1 just think or pretend they know their stuff and fail miserably in the later rounds

[@bigcountryranch]

i think the manager can think about hiring a mid-level instead of senior. they still get the job done. don't need to pay for a stud anymore.

[@LourivalCarvalhoJr]

Great video! Thank you for sharing. What are your thoughts on pursuing a career in data?

[@memphispally5480]

Having this vid in my history coincides with my youtube recommendations suddenly filling up with a bunch of vids on the worsening developer shortage.

[@ahmad.mozaffar]

The main reason behind what's happening is the need for more coders and not less, the middle management layers in companies that raised a lot in the past decades proved that those people partially doing nothing and they end up being out. Coding is increasing not decreasing, every little device, city, gov, business ..etc needs software that's if we exclude the software for the hardware devices. And the charts you showed tell the story, the peak of IT jobs was in 2020-2022 (the pandemic era). During this period every tiny business wanted software in developed and developing countries, giving you example in my country Syria, people still relied heavily on traditional tools in many businesses, but when the pandemic hit, suddenly everyone wanted cloud software immediately so they hired (1, 2, 5, 10 ..) just get it so quickly. The same for tech giants, they wanted to deliver new solutions for the remote work sector in record time, they hired an army of people, then that amount of work was no longer there, so they decided to start making layoffs, that's because simply the pandemic era was not normal and now things are getting to the norm.

[@elcapitan6126]

agree

[@elcapitan6126]

there are too many product and project managers floating around in these companies

[@CoconutPete]

nah

[@AlanMitchellAustralia]

Agree, the demand for software will only increase. A temporarily reduction of coding jobs in big tech does not mean the end of coding jobs. Similarly to how a temporary reduction in ice cream consumption does not mean the end of ice cream

[@conjurermast]

​@@AlanMitchellAustralia Gifted programmers can stay relevant for at least a decade, but at least 70% of the people currently working as coders can start thinking about a new carrier.

[@ericthenomad]

thanks for the information... Enjoyed the video

[@theIdlecrane]

I am with you lead. Everyone has given up.

[@TomNook.]

Now I understand employers who sack their staff with just a text or letter. Because otherwise these social media weirdos just film it.

[@michaelandrews4783]

No the reason is they are lazy and have no regard for the people they used for work who they expected to be competly loyal to them.

[@Adolphout]

No matter how much Techlead wants to quit youtube , KZbin keeps pulling him back

[@alegendarydude9720]

Techlead vid finally got me feel more lost than ever now

[@saudulhassan]

Sales is the job that will NEVER go down the drain. Evergreen!

[@True38]

Same with almost every government job.

[@aena5995]

@@True38 i started a business data analytics degree but unfortunatey now idk if i should switch to business with a minor in business data analytics or a bs accouting finance with minor in business data analytics (can get exemptions for acca) can i go for data analytics roles with it ? :/ really didnt wanna switch but ugh

[@EvgeniyaJZ]

I'm a laid off IT worker who couldn't find a job for a whole year after my lay off. I've got 3 years of experience only. I'm thinking of switching to sales...

[@HA-me3ed]

The thing is you can't just become a salesman. You have to be born as one. If you weren't, you'll never find any success in it. It's not a skill you can learn since its so heavily reliant on temperamental traits and physical appearance.

[@saudulhassan]

@@HA-me3ed No one is born in any way. It's a limiting mindset. If you have basic intellect, anyone can become a great salesman.

[@eatenpancreas]

As a current software engineering student this is really worrying. And i don't know entirely if i should continue studying

[@Jacksonville5]

Continue. He is fear mongering. I work for big tech, it’s not as bad as he is making it sound

[@SuperCatbert]

i was told 30 years ago by an older guy who was a dentist that we engineers were battery hens. Look at the wave of tech over the last 30 years! Our demise is overstated. Head down, work hard, you will be ok

[@Noface678]

Remember this guy makes money making these types of videos. While he is right at times, I don’t think you should quit 100 percent.

[@davidduran2984]

By all means continue studying. When computers were introduced, the people who earned a living manually doing maths had the option to evolve and learn how to use them. A lot of things will change for sure, but the knowdledge associated with them are still valuable.

[@abnoco]

If you love it, continue.

[@TheGothGaming]

0:30 if anything this graphic shows tech roles are reverting back to pre-pandemic levels. you can see the spike during the pandemic, now everything is returning back to normal. but I do agree with TechLead. most tech jobs are being outsourced to cheaper countries, and tiktok monopolizing everyone's attention

[@Agentgill]

Brilliant, your ending line was the best

[@OM-pu9yi]

brilliant video, an end of an era

[@NRsevenX]

TechLead killing some competition for us once again!👍

[@lizardspiral]

1st stage: Denial.

[@exacool]

Shhh

[@bluecrocks]

He ain’t stopping me that’s for sure😂

[@mostafayasser1352]

​@lizardspiral I hate coding and stoped doing it but no this is not denial coding will never be dead

[@radicaIarchitect]

😅​@@lizardspiral

[@randywright7627]

Whatever. Everything is getting worse. I'd rather be dead anyway.

[@aena5995]

i started a business data analytics degree but unfortunatey now idk if i should switch to business with a minor in business data analytics or a bs accouting finance with minor in business data analytics (can get exemptions for acca) can i go for data analytics roles with it ? :/ really didnt wanna switch but ugh

[@prawtism]

Didn't expect such a real vid, interest rates and new bills etc mentioned. New TechLead golden age?

[@mortenpettersen9556]

I like your style man, it's fun to watch

[@tomryan9827]

The only skill that matters anymore is being ahead of the curve

[@user-zl1yq7qo1d]

That's why I'm doing a masters in clinical psychology. There will always be people who some AI counselling bot cannot help. Life is too complex; people also seek "therapy" as a form of outsourced trustworthy venting and mentorship etc

[@user-zl1yq7qo1d]

People will also never want a robot therapist.

[@vio1583]

That's false. AI can actually diagnose issues better and give more independent advice @@user-zl1yq7qo1d

[@Autz64]

That's like saying if you want to win, don't lose. Like, DUH

[@misschris325]

I am so happy for my stepdad- he's worked tirelessly for over 20 years as a software engineer and will retire this spring.

[@jaycol21]

At the buzzer. Good on him.

[@Dipj01]

I'm envious of these older devs who didn't have to deal with this much competition

[@tcc2021]

Yep I am out at the end of this year...it has been a good ride for 25 years.

[@afrivox]

​@@Dipj01I think the 2000s were rough for them too.😢

[@arekhe3348]

​@tcc2021 why out? Been doing it for 25 yrs now and I just love it. And now when the money is really good quit and do what comment on videos? Still working towards FU money but when I get there not going to quit. Work for a great company not FAANG though.

[@DrPhyoPaing]

Am I the only one who is missing Techlead?

[@lhxperimental]

@TechLead where are you? Start posting again. We miss you.

[@SandraWantsCoke]

Nice to see you using Audacity. Make the audio "chart" narrower makes the CPU last of that program go down significantly (only on windows, on mac I see no difference).

[@noa670]

Hey Tech lead, I actually just got laid off from my Engineering role this week and have been thinking a lot about the future of this industry, probably going into some AI training program or something but now its going to be really difficult to figure out a path forward

[@yammymoo1152]

Love it...spot on as per usual...

[@hodge2766]

Left tech a few years ago to get my CDL. Currently driving a fuel tanker and do not miss the office.

[@lovelace24]

You dont get how much inefficiency there is in big companies This is just a correction from overhiring

[@malik_alharb]

I recently made a career transition to group sales and event planning in the luxury hotel industry. Jobs that produce revenue and require human to human interaction will be the few jobs that can't be easily replaced by AI or automated

[@devTalks3641]

were you a senior programmer before?

[@malik_alharb]

@@devTalks3641 No I was in digital marketing but that field is becoming largely automated and oversaturated. Also Facebook and IG advertising isn't nearly as cost effective as it was just 5 years ago

[@Dipj01]

even sales is miserable. They give you sale targets to achieve, and if you can't (most people are REALLY not interested in what you're selling), they'll fire you.

[@user-zl1yq7qo1d]

That's why I'm doing a masters in clinical psychology 😊

[@talwaar007]

@@user-zl1yq7qo1d LOL. Well seeing as young millennials and Gen Z all seem to be suffering from "mental health issues" I'd say that's smart move!

[@YokoYokoOneTwo]

Congrats on getting arrested 💪(as an ex-Google programmer)

[@randomfellow1483]

Why did he get arrested

[@Sir_Sway]

'content became the new software' -briliant

[@mkwarlock]

Thank you, Mr. TechLead, for your most salient and insightful commentary on the current tech job market and society in general.

[@raymondbyczko]

We need some person - out of the desert - who spent decades there learning assembly, basic, cobol, c, c++, java..... and finally rust - to deliver us from the wix oblivion. Just think of sandstorms, people with cool long hair, people who accept the homeless and destitute. But on a more serious note, I think there will always be some need for coding, who can construct a process and then implement it. There are millions of ideas out there! And many process to implement too! The TechLead offers sage advice however, in that time is not going to rewind 5, 10 or 20 years. Learn coding but learn something else! Or learn 3 or 4 'something else' !

[@interstateceo303]

Thanks for your advice and insight.

[@jorge1869]

Thanks, I will code more.👍

[@atvmoviedigest]

Wow , content is the new 👑

[@radicaIarchitect]

Thank you, the great tech lead

[@EatMyShortsAU]

I am not sure I agree with everything you say but I respect your opinion and your videos are fun to watch with your dry humor.

[@thc4825]

Nothing like a good ole TechLead video to remind there's no hope for me😢

[@user-pc2dz3bd3u]

One of the great things with being old is you see this cycle happening time and time again. Learn to do difficult, unsexy tech, like SQL or SRE work for a public utility and you'll stay in a job even if it doesn't pay so much. Love your videos, you are spot on with your observations, even if it isn't what people want to hear.

[@ketz555]

How do you get into something like SRE?

[@user-pc2dz3bd3u]

@@ketz555 sys admin is how I got into it. You learn how to manage a system and learn how to fault find. You learn to read logs and you have to dig past the error that caused the system to stop to find what made it error in the first place. Then you learn how to automate that process so you can scale it up.

[@viacheslavspitsyn2995]

That works but besides being low paid SRE is also very boring.

[@yonatandaniyel5640]

Im ditching software engineering to become an SRE/Platform engineer. I agree that the cloud and ops world is the only lucrative area left in tech.

[@yonatandaniyel5640]

Software engineering is more boring than SRE in many cases. You basically hack out loads of garbage spaghetti to meet sprint goals of your budget and time strained team or have to maintain the turd pile of legacy vomit.

[@marko5734]

My daily dose of anxiety, never fails me

[@Astral_Dusk]

Some developers just breaking into a six figure salary working 50+ hours a week, while some TikTok millionaires prank people at Walmart.

[@user-zl1yq7qo1d]

Feel free to prank people at Walmart and film it.

[@aw4203]

Your vid makes lot of sense. Thankfully I'm not into tech/programming.

[@deltapi8859]

I love this. Back then I thought "the more people are into tech the better", because I was very lonely as a programmer (people back then didn't even know what programming is). But now with tech breaking the mainstream the career coder and groomed coder got in and everyone is extremely competitive and toxic. So yeah, this way at least the resume gamers are being filtered out.

[@aena5995]

i started a business data analytics degree but unfortunatey now idk if i should switch to business with a minor in business data analytics or a bs accouting finance with minor in business data analytics (can get exemptions for acca) can i go for data analytics roles with it ? :/ really didnt wanna switch but ugh

[@dtreezy]

@@aena5995 If you're asking for career advice in the youtube comments you have bigger fish to fry.

[@JudgeFredd]

I'm afraid you're totally right...

[@ChadNeo]

This video is spot on, I said to myself a few months ago that coding job were about to be the next forklift driver/warehouse type of job 🙃 studying for the last 6 months😢. Think I’ll just buy a pressure washer

[@Ligma_Shlong]

😂 How delusional are you?

[@kimeg7294]

Everything is chaos now. Management has been clueless, dragging devs all around random meetings every 90 minutes, still not able to decide whether list or dictionary is sexier on Friday nights.

[@deli5777]

This is fantastic, I just graduated CS in September 😀

[@joshh4234]

Same!

[@I_Lemaire]

@@joshh4234 Congrats to you both. You will be fine.

[@joshh4234]

@@I_LemaireThanks!

[@aena5995]

did u get a job i started a business data analytics degree but unfortunatey now idk if i should switch to business with a minor in business data analytics or a bs accouting finance with minor in business data analytics (can get exemptions for acca) can i go for data analytics roles with it ? :/ really didnt wanna switch but ugh

[@deli5777]

@aena5995 heya, nothing yet. I have maybe 50+ job apps out now. Many went with "more qualified candidates" already. I think there are still many jobs out there and it's probably an ebb and flow kind of job market. I think certs can really set people apart rn. Good luck!

[@tombradyyoutube]

Every time he drops a new video, I say “Babe wake up, new tech lead video”. To no one.

[@afrivox]

Get a f-ing dog, for goodness sake 😂😂😂

[@joecan]

Just go upstairs and tell your mom.

[@Auror2k05]

Oh that's really nice. But no one cares, unfortunately.

[@lovelace24]

When the world needed him most, he vanished

[@TrueNorthStephen]

I agree with most of what this guy is saying. I find that knowing how to code is just a plus point and isnt the only skill you need unlike in the past. If you can solve hard business problems or are knowledgable in a particular field then it is much easier to find high paying jobs within those fields for tech roles.

[@ktoya4289]

So what should we do now to achieve success in this world?

[@user-df5ym9dv5g]

Something with your hands.

[@btm1]

there are other jobs out there much more safe from automation

[@flavioamezcua4057]

Success is psychological

[@aromata1]

Be a top 10% candidate

[@Tolbiakful]

Be in merge and acquisitions like Patrick Bateman.

[@s.dotmedia]

"I love eating ice cream, doesn't make it a job!" 🤣Love your perspective, you've dropped so many gems in this video. Hard to find smart people that are vocal about the hard truth to the masses. I've been saying for years that developers at the lower end, who aren't architects, are simply digital brick layers and the very tech we build would devalue our (old) core skills. Memorizing syntax has never been an intrinsically valuable skill, and all things without intrinsic value eventually come to a head.

[@bimrebeats]

The ratio of people asking me to fix a bug vs ice cream is probably 100,000:1 , I must be doing something completely wrong 😂

[@pageegap1]

lol another great video from techlead!!